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Haruchai Khan
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.06.03 14:48:56 -
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Greetings all
May I ask for some advice?
IGÇÖm a very new player - some three weeks in the game - and IGÇÖm having difficulty understanding how to meet with other players in a manner thatGÇÖs meaning full for them as well as I.
ItGÇÖs very clear from my reading here and other resources that EVE is best enjoyed as a shared experience. ThatGÇÖs great, itGÇÖs what I wanted. I have just emerged from 12 odd years playing Ultima Online, and a similar sandbox experience with good people was what attracted me to EVE. (There are no people left at UO these days). I am, at heart a role-player, so again, social interaction and milieu is an important part of my experience.
After the career missions, I was fortunate enough to be contacted by a corporation that seemed a good start. The leader of that corp has been wonderful, very helpful in terms of running tutorials and taking a couple of newbies like me on learning missions when possible. However, there are two major issues.
First, the corp CEO and it seems, much of the membership is on Pacific US time, whereas IGÇÖm in the UK. This does not make for easy meet-ups.
Secondly, and quite understandably, the other corp members have little time to share with a newbie. And why should they? I can barely point a Autocannon Gatling without shooting myself in the arse. A rather good example was a week or so ago when we went out in a fleet and I was tasked as a learning exercise to orbit a plex. IGÇÖm ex-military, so when my commander gives me an order, I follow it ). These things take time, and something came that focussed the fleet attention elsewhere, and suddenly I found myself alone, and then dead as a more advanced player arrived to attack. I didnGÇÖt even know what happened, just blew up.
Today, I got podded three times in the space of half an hour as I attempted to complete a level 1 mission. OK, a bit tedious, but I was in low-sec and faction warfare, one expects it. The third time I logged off because it was clear I couldnGÇÖt do anything about my predicament apart from lose more ships. My attackers appeared to have equipment I could only dream about, let alone be able to use to fight back. IGÇÖll have to do some mining to afford to try again, but itGÇÖs all part of the harsh learning curve.
What irked me somewhat however, was not being able to talk to any of these attacking players as is recommended here. One second IGÇÖm flying to a gate, the next IGÇÖm a corpse, and the next IGÇÖm back at home base with no apparent way to communicate with my killers either to congratulate them or discuss what I might have learned.
So, long story short, it feels a bit like I should leave the corp and faction warfare and go and sit in high sec for an unspecified length of time (seemingly several years) until I might have a chance to defend myself for more than a second. Clearly this is not what the game is about, nor what I would like, so I need friends/advice/experience. Since no-one will talk to me - at least from what IGÇÖm doing now, which is clearly wrong - how on earth does one find a group or individual to fly with and learn in the game?
IGÇÖve looked at the corporation recruitment forum and itGÇÖs very hard to tell which one might be right, particularly those with an EU timezone. I have a wife and job, there has to be some limit to flexibility for a game. I also like the idea behind my current corp, and indeed FW - it's exciting to see the opposition flash up and know one is in danger (maybe not so much after being popped three times in quick succession, but you know what I mean ) - except for the reasons noted above.
IGÇÖm just a bit demoralised, and would appreciate advice from those of you who know the game. It's been a fabulous experience so far, but it feels a bit like I've hit the first wall.
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Oliver Delorean
Black Aces Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2015.06.03 15:03:29 -
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You defo need to find a corp that fits into your timezone. ( Join their public channel and ask what times they play) Sometimes the corp info sheet is crap. If your corp/alliance is quiet in your timezone then don't wait. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.06.03 15:29:52 -
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Finding a good corp is one way.
Another would be to just go out and shoot people and get your ass handed to you. After the fight convo your killer and talk with them. Sometimes you will make a connection and make friends sometimes you won't, but at the very least you will be able to talk to him about what happened and what you can do differently in the future.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Azda Ja
Green Skull LLC
3817
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Posted - 2015.06.03 15:31:47 -
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Haruchai Khan wrote:
So, long story short, it feels a bit like I should leave the corp and faction warfare and go and sit in high sec for an unspecified length of time (seemingly several years) until I might have a chance to defend myself for more than a second.
Eww! No don't do that. You've already gone further than a lot of people ever do. If you like the idea of living iand PVPing in lowsec, you most certainly can. I started living full time in Lowsec after 2 weeks, and was traveling in daily daily prior to that. Like you, I died frequently. It's very rough when you're new because you still haven't learned many of the basics and haven't figured out how to survive.
I like that your corp has taken you in to PvP, but based on what you've described, it's not just the timezone that's a problem. I'm sure they're nice guys, but they may not be well suited to teaching a very young newbie. For starters, take a look at this thread. It's a well written guide that should honestly be part of the "Welcome to EVE" mail.
You'll also want to learn the basics of PvP combat, how to travel in Lowsec, and of course how to use the Directional Scanner:
3 basic PvP tactics Traveling and living in lowsec D-Scan
The videos are a little long, but do watch them when you have the time and patience, they explain things very nicely for new players.
Here's a few more things to look at
Newbie Skill Plan and SP explanation: http://blog.beyondreality.se/Newbie-skill-plan-2 Blog full of PvP tips for newbies and vets alike: http://www.evealtruist.com/p/article-index.html
The second blog has a few things which are out of date, mostly the "Know your enemy" articles. Do take a look at the Newbie articles when you get a chance.
Hope this helps, feel free to mail me any question you have, good luck, and have fun!
o7
"I only lose ships when I fly with Azda." - Barry Cuttlefish
Because sometimes you die. And sometimes we are why. GSLLC is Recruiting.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
9854
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Posted - 2015.06.03 15:37:12 -
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getting your pod out
This will allow you to chat in local and thus make friends.
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Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
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Posted - 2015.06.03 15:45:50 -
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You mentioned you were into roleplay and I think there is a fair bit of that in Factional Warfare. There is also roleplay elsewhere in the game currently concerning the Drifters and the Circadian Seekers. You could look up the 'Live Events Discussion' board on this forum or the 'Live Events' chat channel which you can join in-game.
Regarding your comment about having to train for years to be able to defend yourself that isn't actually the case. You can choose to specialise in one type of combat/ship and get fully skilled quite quickly depending on which one you choose. You could consider joining another corporation such as EVE University or Brave Newbies and get more experience.
'There are many ways to skin a cat'.
" They're gonna feel pretty stupid when they find out. "-áRick.
" Find out what ? "-áAbraham.
" They're screwing with the wrong people. "-áRick.
Season four.-á-á ' The Walking Dead. ' .
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Lulu Lunette
Custodes Olim United Systems of Aridia
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Posted - 2015.06.03 16:13:20 -
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I guess I've made my current connections through local chat. These are the guys that help me settle into Aridia so I just ended up joining their corporation and closing my own. They also happen to play when I played.
I wasn't really looking for a corporation just kind of fell into it
@lunettelulu7
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
9854
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Posted - 2015.06.03 16:49:11 -
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Lulu Lunette wrote:I guess I've made my current connections through local chat. These are the guys that help me settle into Aridia so I just ended up joining their corporation and closing my own. They also happen to play when I played.
I wasn't really looking for a corporation just kind of fell into it
i was actually recruited from a thread in the forums some months back, i was getting slagged to bits (in good humour) for some hilariously expensive and needless Legion losses in lowsec and someone found my attitude to the losses somewhat admirable (had fun so ****it it was worth every penny) ,asked me to join and iv been flying with them ever since.
trust me when i say this , A good attitude will get you much much further in eve than anything else.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2015.06.03 16:55:47 -
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Haruchai Khan wrote:What irked me somewhat however, was not being able to talk to any of these attacking players as is recommended here. One second IGÇÖm flying to a gate, the next IGÇÖm a corpse, and the next IGÇÖm back at home base with no apparent way to communicate with my killers either to congratulate them or discuss what I might have learned. If you find yourself in this situation again and want to talk to your opponents, check your kills and losses (click on your picture ingame and select combat log), opening up any of your losses will show a killmail with the names of your opponents on it. You should be able to right click on their name or portrait and start a private conversation with them regardless of where you are.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Cellini Benvenuto
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.06.03 17:10:46 -
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Azda's already given you great pointers. As a fellow newbie, I'd add a couple of more, which have served me well even as a solo player:
1. Always chat with people who kill you/pod you and ask for advice in local. I've met a lot of great guys that way. 2. It is way easier and way more fun to talk to people in low/null than in hi. As long as you don't mind losing ships (and even pods), stick to low/null. Money won't be an issue - an hour's roam in low is usually worth 20-30M even on basic ships like an Executioner/Coercer (I was flying those until a couple of weeks ago and they made me a lot of money) - plus you get all the fun of learning to use your d-scan, learning which fights to avoid and which to pick and learning new things. 3. Play little games. D-scan is your friend. Even if you can't win a fight, you can scare a lot of people by just finding them. I did that for a couple of weeks in an executioner and met some amazingly helpful people. 4. Continue posting in forums with your questions: it is another great way of meeting new people. 5. A Corps within your timezone would be the best way to go, of course, but even without, you can play to your hearts content the first few months. 6. Stick to frigates to start with instead of looking to upgrade to bigger skills. They are great fun to fly and the training times are shorter compared to bigger ships. 7. Get to know your ship and its capabilities. Concentrate on your fitting skills and frigate skills and set small goals (like T2 weapons). |
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Haruchai Khan
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.06.03 18:14:19 -
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Thank you everyone for some good advice and the resources to read.
I would like to make clear that I don't blame my current corp mates as it is tough to devote too much time when someone is due to log off just as you are logging on. As I noted, the corp CEO has been very supportive when he is available - he too, has a life.
The advice about the kill mail is very useful. I have tried to chat with my adversaries after being killed, but being ejected from Local to another location after podding meant I didn't think I could. I felt awkward about private messaging someone in such circumstances, but I'll give it a try now.
I'll also practice the escape pod technique. My corp CEO demonstrated this in our first tutorial, but I've not been able to make it work in an actual combat - probably because I've blown up and been podded so fast I had no idea what was happening - or in a couple of cases, was being engaged by NPCs first, then ambushed, and thus stupidly assumed the NPC had killed me so I wouldn't be podded. Lesson 1 - don't assume!
I'm grateful for your time and advice. I'll get back to low.sec now, and hopefully null soon. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2015.06.03 18:37:28 -
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With regards to your corp playing in a different timezone, there looks to be at least one corp in your alliance that probably has an EU timezone presence, most of them have public chat channels and all will be at least logged into alliance chat when they're online.
It might be worth trying the alliance and public channels so you have people to chat to and ask advice of.
edit ~ you'll find a simple "gf" when opening a private conversation after exploding always goes down well and sets the tone for what follows.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Azda Ja
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2015.06.03 18:42:15 -
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Haruchai Khan wrote:...he too, has a life. Poppycock.
This is internet spaceships, it's super cereal.
"I only lose ships when I fly with Azda." - Barry Cuttlefish
Because sometimes you die. And sometimes we are why. GSLLC is Recruiting.
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Haruchai Khan
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.06.03 20:08:50 -
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Azda Ja wrote:Haruchai Khan wrote:...he too, has a life. Poppycock. This is internet spaceships, it's super cereal.
And thank you for the videos and blog links. I understand a bit more about the Directional Scanner now, and what I was doing wrong. The presenter's tour of low.sec was much like my experience until today - clearly I just had a bad sequence, and should have had a bit more sense than to run back through Amanake without thoroughly checking my map.
There's so much reading to do, it feels like starting my PhD all over again.
If I may, I'll keep you all posted on progress. I may have questions. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2015.06.03 20:24:28 -
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Haruchai Khan wrote: should have had a bit more sense than to run back through Amanake without thoroughly checking my map. Lesson learned.
Amanake is always a fun system to go through. Some spectacular losses have occurred there, like the time PL camped the gate with a smartbombing Erebus titan for a while and ended up losing it to a combined militia force.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.03 20:31:21 -
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Haruchai Khan wrote:If I may, I'll keep you all posted on progress. I may have questions. Absolutely, we love a running narrative.
Here's a ncq&a classic, the op was a champion
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
969
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Posted - 2015.06.03 21:33:01 -
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Lulu Lunette wrote:I wasn't really looking for a corporation just kind of fell into it
Best way to find the right spot.
Remove insurance.
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Azda Ja
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2015.06.04 12:08:05 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Haruchai Khan wrote:If I may, I'll keep you all posted on progress. I may have questions. Absolutely, we love a running narrative. Here's a ncq&a classic, the op was a champion Ahhh there it is again! BMing it this time.
I can't be the only one reminded of Sunless Sea while reading that right?
Yes OP, using NCQ&A as a makeshift blog is cool in the short term, go for it! Spin your yarn, I'm guilty of the same.
"I only lose ships when I fly with Azda." - Barry Cuttlefish
Because sometimes you die. And sometimes we are why. GSLLC is Recruiting.
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Cara Forelli
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2015.06.04 19:01:23 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Absolutely, we love a running narrative. Here's a ncq&a classic, the op was a champion A perfect example of the type of content that we all love in EVE - completely motivated by player interaction. I was just thinking about that thread the other day.
OP, in short, talk to everyone and anyone. I have made many long term friends and frienemies simply by striking up a conversation. It helps if you have a good personality. Don't get too bent out of shape when you lose and even your enemies will grow fond of you. Witty banter will always win out over smack talk as far as winning hearts and minds.
Don't get too discouraged if someone seems disinterested in speaking with you though. Sometimes I will have a fight, receive a convo, and talk for hours with the person, exchanging fits and tips and discussing anything and everything. Other times I will get wrapped up in what I'm doing and forget to respond or type too slowly to keep up a real conversation. Doesn't mean I'm not interested in speaking with a newbro - just busy at that moment.
And some people just aren't looking to talk. No problem. Thank them for the fight and go find another one.
Adventures
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.06.04 19:26:33 -
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Check out the forum thread on recruitment. Find some corps that look interesting to you and at least a few of them that advertise new player friendly. Then join several of their public chat channels. You can ask all the newbie questions you want of them.
This will accomplish several things. First you get answers to your questions as they will be more than happy to answer questions for potential recruits. Second you can spread the questions around so you are not loading up just one set of people with non-stop questions. Third it gives you a feel for what kind of corp it is and what it's members are like so that you will know which one to join. |
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Tao Dolcino
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
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Posted - 2015.06.04 22:09:21 -
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Old UO roleplayer here (Europa). Don't expect the same level of interactions in EVE. For many reasons : 1) we don't have bodies (well theorically we have but they are locked forever alone inside their own bedroom), we only have ships. 2) as there is no real "social" life, roleplay here is mostly limited to forums and blogs (diaries, etc..) mainly turning around the lore. BUT That doesn't mean that you should give up EVE. You can find the right corporation with whom you will share good chats, fleets, goals, advices, etc... and you will find a meaning, your own meaning to all this mess. You will maybe realize that even if people don't roleplay in the way we were doing in UO, the whole game is a rolepaly, because the players are making the story. Have a look for example at the sovereignty map. The players have done it as it is, and if tomorrow it changes it's the players only who will have done it. Whatever the path you choose, if you find the right corporation for you (compatible activities, time zone, ambiance, etc...) you will be able to have a great level of immersion, and even if they don't really roleplay in the classical sense, you will have the feeling to be a pod pilot in this strange universe. Isn't that the most important ? Feel free to contact me in game, i'll be glad to help you, or simply to babble
CCP 2015 : "Fluff is good"
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
585
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Posted - 2015.06.05 01:24:06 -
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Tao Dolcino wrote:Old UO roleplayer here (Europa). Don't expect the same level of interactions in EVE. For many reasons : 1) we don't have bodies (well theorically we have but they are locked forever alone inside their own bedroom), we only have ships. 2) as there is no real "social" life, roleplay here is mostly limited to forums and blogs (diaries, etc..) mainly turning around the lore. BUT That doesn't mean that you should give up EVE.
You should try flying through CVA space and watch those guys throw up their "Amarr Victor" and "Hail to the Emperor" in local. There may not be as much RP in Eve as some other games but we definitely have RPers here. What about all the nasty low sec pirate types? You don't think that they are RPing a bit? I think because this game is mostly based on the corporate model and more disconnected from the faction warfare of most games that people may not understand how role playing plays out in this game. It's more about in game life style choices and personas than it is about one faction versus the other but they are both still RPing.
The early days of goonswarm when there motto was "we play to ruin your game" that was RPing. The station trader that fancies him self a large scale businessman is RPing. The industrialist is RPing that he is some big manufacturing tycoon like Henry Ford or something like that. FFS do you know how many times I've bitched and moaned about the dumb ass damsel that keeps running away from her father for that casino owner? And who in this game hasn't made a snide remark about those minmatar and their affinity for duct tape? |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.06.05 01:39:08 -
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I almost forgot, The OP's Alliance once reinforced a PoS we had in low sec minmatar space and then contacted us to let us know it was done as punishment for supporting slavery. If the OP wants to RP he might just be in the wrong corp in his alliance. I'm pretty sure that there are people in Ushra'Kahan that RP. Maybe try ally chat? |
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CCP Darwin
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.05 03:07:23 -
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For a new player who's interested in, or tolerant of, PvP combat, I strongly suggest considering flying with one of the groups that run public PvP fleets. The advantage of this experience is that you'll meet other similarly-interested players who may come from a variety of corporations, and you can get to know them and learn with whom you like flying without joining a corp until you've found people you already know you'll enjoy playing with.
Here's a great Reddit post that lists a number of the groups that run public PvP (also known as NPSI, or "not purple, shoot it") fleets.
You should be able to contribute to these groups with just a day or two of training, at the start, if you're not already good to go. Try joining one of their channels, saying you're a new player, and asking for some help knowing what to do. You might even get one or a few free ships out of the deal as people stumble over themselves to help.
I wish you the best!
CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins
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Tao Dolcino
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
371
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Posted - 2015.06.05 04:44:10 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote:Tao Dolcino wrote:Old UO roleplayer here (Europa). Don't expect the same level of interactions in EVE. For many reasons : 1) we don't have bodies (well theorically we have but they are locked forever alone inside their own bedroom), we only have ships. 2) as there is no real "social" life, roleplay here is mostly limited to forums and blogs (diaries, etc..) mainly turning around the lore. BUT That doesn't mean that you should give up EVE.
You should try flying through CVA space and watch those guys throw up their "Amarr Victor" and "Hail to the Emperor" in local. There may not be as much RP in Eve as some other games but we definitely have RPers here. What about all the nasty low sec pirate types? You don't think that they are RPing a bit? I think because this game is mostly based on the corporate model and more disconnected from the faction warfare of most games that people may not understand how role playing plays out in this game. It's more about in game life style choices and personas than it is about one faction versus the other but they are both still RPing. The early days of goonswarm when there motto was "we play to ruin your game" that was RPing. The station trader that fancies him self a large scale businessman is RPing. The industrialist is RPing that he is some big manufacturing tycoon like Henry Ford or something like that. FFS do you know how many times I've bitched and moaned about the dumb ass damsel that keeps running away from her father for that casino owner? And who in this game hasn't made a snide remark about those minmatar and their affinity for duct tape?
You certainly have no idea what level of RP can be achieved in UO or other rp oriented games such as LOTRO. I would call what you describe in EVE as flavoured interactions at best. As for the goons roleplaying that they want to waste everyone else's game experience, it shows that you either have a lot of humour or you have no experience of RP : a roleplayer would never act out of character, and claiming to waste other people's game experience is the total opposite of being in character.
CCP 2015 : "Fluff is good"
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
586
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Posted - 2015.06.05 10:57:17 -
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Tao Dolcino wrote: You certainly have no idea what level of RP can be achieved in UO or other rp oriented games such as LOTRO. I would call what you describe in EVE as flavoured interactions at best. As for the goons roleplaying that they want to waste everyone else's game experience, it shows that you either have a lot of humour or you have no experience of RP : a roleplayer would never act out of character, and claiming to waste other people's game experience is the total opposite of being in character.
I think that you missed the whole point of my post.
I'm not familiar with these other games you are talking about but Lord of the Rings is an existing story based on a book series. My reference to goons is because I highly doubt that they actually want to make people miserable IRL. They are playing a role of the bad guys in game. Like an actor that plays the bad guy in a movie or play isn't a bad guy when he goes home to his family or with his buddies at the bar. I mean I'm pretty sure that James Earl Jones is not a Sith Lord IRL.
The difference in Eve is that the roles people play are roles that they make up that are part of their own narrative. It's kind of like the difference between an actor doing a play everyone knows well like Shakespeare for example and an improv actor. The improv actor is still acting but he's not following a script. He's working with and playing off of his audience but he's still acting, it's just off of an ever changing and emergent script.
So while yes the more traditional types of role playing do exist to a lesser degree in Eve I think that role playing is still alive and well and maybe even stronger in this game than others. You just have to adjust your concept of role playing to include anyone playing a role and not just someone following along with an existing storyline. |
Vorll Minaaran
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2015.06.05 23:40:37 -
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Other RPing capsuleers: - the WH resident praying to Bob, the god of wormholes - James315 an his New Order ganking carebears in HS as saviours of HS |
Haruchai Khan
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.06.06 17:31:10 -
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Thank you to everyone who has offered such good advice. I've got an update which I'll post a bit later. |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
1779
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Posted - 2015.06.07 19:20:38 -
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CCP Darwin wrote:For a new player who's interested in, or tolerant of, PvP combat, I strongly suggest considering flying with one of the groups that run public PvP fleets. The advantage of this experience is that you'll meet other similarly-interested players who may come from a variety of corporations, and you can get to know them and learn with whom you like flying without joining a corp until you've found people you already know you'll enjoy playing with. Here's a great Reddit post that lists a number of the groups that run public PvP (also known as NPSI, or "not purple, shoot it") fleets. You should be able to contribute to these groups with just a day or two of training, at the start, if you're not already good to go. Try joining one of their channels, saying you're a new player, and asking for some help knowing what to do. You might even get one or a few free ships out of the deal as people stumble over themselves to help. I wish you the best! In addition to the ones in that post, check out Violet Squadron and Perpetrators for small gang stuff.
Founder of Violet Squadron, a small gang NPSI community! Mail me for more information.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie's Space Mediation Service!
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Darth Terona
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2015.06.07 21:18:26 -
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id say talk to your attackers.
as long as you play it cool, and are asking questions, Most everyone is willing to help.
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