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Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.20 21:26:00 - [1] I gotta say ... I feel all funny inside. That's a funny idea you had there ! My mining guide
Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.20 22:01:00 - [2] Yeah, I'm poor and lack vision, and bring nothing good to this community ! My mining guide
Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.21 05:59:00 - [3] Edited by: Halada on 21/11/2006 06:01:01 Originally by: Cyan007 I know mining. (apparently you don't) http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=305662 My mining guide
Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.21 21:27:00 - [4] Originally by: Benedict Arnoldd i say go for it. i have mined in a mach, cnr. sure want to try mining in titans or motherships. let me build/fly one in safe empire so i can afk mine in a pretty nice .9 system. i leave on a armor repper and go afk for hours. just let it sit there You broke the chain. You will have bad sex for the next 7 years (of if you're still a virgin, from the point you start on). Bobbit alt forum pwnage
Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.23 12:51:00 - [5] Funny we haven't heard of him in the past days. I bet he created another alt to do some more smacktalk ! Bobbit alt forum pwnage
Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.01 08:19:00 - [6] Right, I don't have a clue and my whole guide is baloney You're such a loser, you should have crawled back to your **hole with the very tiny little bit of dignity you had left. If you had any balls AT ALL you would post with your main so we can put a face on you, yet you still think you're so hot and cool and you still post anon hiding... I have zero respect for such persons. Even more when they come smack talking around, and calling me a 10 years old because I used humor in my guide? Just for the sake of the argument... Originally by:** Cynoslaver You have 1 idiot who think's he's God's gift to mining because he put down in a guide what the majority of the eve community has known for over a year. That IS a nice definition. You have some intelligence. All hope isn't lost yet. Originally by: Cynoslaver He makes a stupid comment about carrier mining having absolutely no experience in the field whatsoever and points to his 'uber mining knowledge' as proof of his uber-rightness in his opinions. I don't post crap without backing it. I gave you hard mathematical facts that mining in a carrier brings no good benefit, in fact a ** RETRIEVER will do just as well... Originally by:** Cynoslaver The fact that you accuse me of being in BOB just shows what a frigging moron you are. Ok ... I guess you don't show your true face because you're scared we will find you in Delve and wtfpwn you? Your math is out the window. Don't come here and tell me I didn't do any reasoning, the whole 48 pages is just that. I say it again, a retriever will do as good as a carrier, with a Domi in the belt tanking... the whole thing will cost you less than 100 mil, and if you lose any of it, you end up with a few mil in losses because the insurances covers the rest. Go ahead and mine in your carrier, you have lost all credibility to me and anyone here probably. Ciao ciao ! CelticKnight - The curse will wtfpwnecm your ass before you can even lock it... you mind telling me how long it would take even if you could lock it ? That's what I thought... we ALL know a solo carrier won,t survive vs a small skilled gang of pi The best mining guide in the galaxy
Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.01 14:25:00 - [7] By the way you won't be even close to 50mil/hour ... since I suspect you won't waste your carrier rigs on mining drone augmentators (but you might...), the table says 45mil MAX without even factoring the drone traveling time... I'd be very suprised a carrier pilot would have Mining Director V, Mining Foreman V and Mining Drone Operation 5... if he did, having all his drones out would mean if he's jumped by a small gang, not only will he be scrambled and jammed while he recalls his mining drones, he will be useless all-in-all. Your 50mil/hour is WAY off and it will never happen in the practical world and this is mentionned in the guide as well. The best mining guide in the galaxy
Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.01 18:32:00 - [8] Edited by: Halada on 01/12/2006 18:36:04 I didn't bother to read anything you wrote, I bet it's all about how a moron I am, and how I'm wrong and you are right about everything. Am I close? Oh and more alt posting ... Earth Rock Rock-bottom Sheit You The best mining guide in the galaxy
Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.01 19:00:00 - [9] More alt spamming... post with your main and I'll start replying to you nub The best mining guide in the galaxy
Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.01 19:09:00 - [10] You're funny :D I don't need to refute anything you say, I've got a 48 pages guide and one whole section dedicated to capital ship mining with hard mathematical and statistical facts to do it for me. When you can top that you come back to me with your main and we will talk ok? It was funny, now you're such a pathetic loser I feel sorry for you That's the last you'll hear from me. The best mining guide in the galaxy

Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.19 13:18:00 - [11] Omg would you all let this go, I've made my case and gave strong arguments, I assume you all have enought brains to make up your own goddamn mind about mining in a carrier with the facts that were presented to you. Sausage boy, my alliance had nothing to do with this argument, you come here calling me an ******. I'd like to know what you ever did to help EVE please? The best mining guide in the galaxy*
Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.19 13:37:00 - [12] The best mining guide in the galaxy
Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.19 13:54:00 - [13] Originally by: Kaiu Sorry but your out of date anti-carrier for mining nonsense is getting beyond boring.. Yes you are so 'cool' and you helped out the community amazingly well with your guide... we all really appreciated it ! Anyway... back on topic. The math shows just how awesome all those T2/harvy drones and gang bonuses really are. TBH the amount of roaming gangs who run when they see a carrier on scanner compared to other tanks for mining ops is great :) Harvesters suck ok, I've shown why already and is is explained in details, plus I've showned a little retriever will do better than a carrier to mine, so your carrier if sitting in belt should have fighters out assigned to its Hulks keeping guard. If a roaming gang scouts finds a carrier mining, he'll just bring the gang in, jam your carrier and take out the miners while you are recalling your t2 mining drones and you cannot do a damn thing because you are jammed. Overconfidence in your toy will cost you, I know what I am talking about. Please apologize me being boring, I need to train entertainement to 4 next week. The best mining guide in the galaxy
Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.19 13:55:00 - [14] 0.0 is overrated , empire is a lot of fun :D The best mining guide in the galaxy
Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.19 14:11:00 - [15] Edited by: Halada on 19/12/2006 14:12:52 I am against using a carrier as a mining paltform, never was against it tanking a belt, in fact if you read the guide its written, black on white. Clearly you haven't read nor the guide or thread and just felt like coming here and smack the **** out of everyone... well done The best mining guide in the galaxy
Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.20 20:40:00 - [16] Originally, it was funny because Cyno made an ignorant statement that I didn't know ** about mining and I proved him wrong in two lines. I did not hijack the thread, I merely acted as a forum we who says what he thinks, like so many out there do. Then Cyno insulted me and I backed my opinion with facts and maths. I can be an arrogant son of a ** when I'm pushed to my limits, I believe if you would meet me in real life you'd think I am a decent and nice guy. This is just a frickin' game, which brought me great deals of fun and entertainment for the past year. I am now in medschool and studying to become a doctor, but before I left I wanted to give the community what many before give me. It took me an entire week-end to finish this guide, I did it out of the goodness of my heart without getting anything in return. I've been a carebear for almost all my time in EVE. Now am I suppose to sit here and read some random person insulting me and calling my guide a noob piece of work ? Does it make you a cool person to post thankless ** like this ? One year ago this was a much different game, now all the smacktalk disgusts me. I had the chance to speak with a long-time buddy in BoB while he was in my home system locking it down. We had a genuinely interesting and nice conversation. There was no smack or insults, even if we are officially mortal ennemies. This is a rare occasion now, and you can't read 5 threads without reading some smacktalk. I am even more disgusted that I got dragged into it myself. At the next version of my guide, any remarks about this post will be removed and the guide will remain neutral. I say this game was different because then we would never have seen someone insult another in an argument over a particular debate. The fact he brought my ASCN citizenship in this argument disgusted me as well. What did it have to do with anything ? Am I suppose to post using an alt to hide my allegiances, does that make me cooler ? Do I get more credibility from hiding my true self ? Yes I own a carrier, I know how they work, and I know first hand how they are not invincible. I have seen people lose and destroy carriers easily. I was never against using a carrier tanking a belt as a support ship to a mining op, I voiced my opinion that having a carrier out mining is not safe. A carrier is first and foremost a support ship. It should have its 14 fighters out in the belt, assigned to its Hulks, so that the Hulk can lock the intruders and destroy them. I begun to ask myself if yourself have ever flown a carrier ? You should know if you did the locking time on cruisers and frigates (be it T1 or T2), which are the most commonly used ships for roaming gans, is astronomic. 40 seconds , more ? I did tests with corpmates, a cruiser will have 4 times more time than you to lock you and manage to jam you. In which case you are useless... you cannot remote repair your miners, nor send fighters against the intruders. They might not kill you before reinforcements arrive, but they might too. And your miners will still be dead. So why using a carrier to mine, which yields about as much as a retriever, and let it be useless during a crisis, rather than using it for what it is actually for, which is supporting the mining op, with its fighters out and ready to fight, and his miners already locked in to repair them while they warp out, provided you aren't jammed ? Are you going to tell me what I wrote makes no sense, that I am stupid, or an idiot because I know nothing about carrier? An actual 1bil worth ship (not inflated like the Hulk) wasn't meant to mine, it's my opinion. Do as you like. This is the last you will hear from me in this thread. I can stand behind my mistakes, but I am very tired of having to hear the senseless smacktalk which isn't even founded or justified with true or verifiable facts. Good luck with your carrier mining, I hope you won't come crying here if you lose it, because I'll be waiting ! The best mining guide in the galaxy

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