Right so I'm going to take the time to reply to you Ms. Vess but this will likely be the last time I post in this specific thread, as I made a promise a while back I would never engage Ms. Kim again, and give her another soapbox to preach her vileness from.

The point Deitra is that it is very much relevant what I said. Remember, this is a warcriminal asking a judicial body to try other warcriminals.

That was the point of my post. To remind everyone of the pure hypocrisy this entire thread entails. By claiming to see her point you are essentially saying that her crimes, though equally heinous, caught on film, and proudly posted by herself less than a year ago are somehow worth overlooking. That the lives she took don't merit the same justice as the lives she demands justice for.

It is... Simply put, disgusting. That's the point.

I hope that clarifies things.

-K. Amsel

P.s. How convenient for charges against me to suddenly and quite miraculously crop up in Ms. Kim's favour the moment she has her character put into question. I will undoubtedly put in as much time as these heinous claims merit to prove my innocence. That is to say, I won't waste a single breath.

In light of the footage provided by Vizage Ms. Kim, do you have an explanation as to your actions? It may be prudent to separate attacks against character and violations of wartime law. If your petition includes questionable considerations of war criminal status, then the footage provided previously would implicate you in criminal status as well.

Of course I have. Execution was performed according to Caldari law over those, who were found guilty by jury of tribunal. And in the future I'd ask to not pay attention to trolls, who pull out things they don't understand just to spread their groundless insults.

Killing is my profession, and I am really shouldn't answer to such questions if someone might pull also any of public record kills and make false claims I did it not according to the law or order, in their futile attempts to counter my words.

Such claims are unrelated to this petition, just as Vizage's insults. I hope I have answered everything and I hope we won't return to this here. For future information please send me mail.

Also I would like to note, even if I don't have desire to bring real arguments against any of these trolls attacks, I leave for myself right to answer them to tell them to shut up or to say what I think about them.

Thanks.

saying that her crimes

Who presided over this tribunal? I only ask as the claims brought up by Vizage are far from 'groundless' as the original topic of your petition called for the identification and trial of suspected war criminals. If your execution was not carried out by State sanctioned jurors through the proper avenues of authority, then possible war crimes may have been committed.

Regardless of whether or not killing is your profession, you have claimed to be a loyal citizen and soldier of the State. For that to be true, you must be beholden to the same laws and policies of the State. The attempt to counter your original argument is a separate matter irrelevant to the primary goal of your petition to pursue war criminals.

Proceedings can be extracted from the archive upon proper request.

I would like to receive a capsuleer named "Vizage" for questioning regarding one of two following crimes:

1) Assistance or executing of serial murders of Caldari and Amarr young capsuleers in their quarters that happened about 1 year ago;

and/or

2) High treason and spreading of Gallente propaganda.

Ah, so you'll tell us but first we have to submit the proper paperwork eh? Typical.

What amuses me is that if we applied Kim's logic to the problem of the detention facilities in Black Rise the only Gallente sin would be not properly documenting our mass killings.

How about this, by the power vested in moi as a Gallente loyalist Capsuleer with no official Federation government authority whatsoever... I hereby declare all Caldari detainees currently being held in Black Rise facilities GUILTY. Sentence to be carried out with due expedience by Black Eagles personnel I, again... have no authority over or official affiliation with whatsoever.

Oh, and I got three of my baseline crew to sign off. We're good.

Its worse than that. We've heard numerous pilots of all nationalities point out that these Black Rise detention facilities are a violation of Gallente law just as much as they violate every principle our society holds dear. It's my view as well that these facilities are illegal under Federal law, operated by rogue actors.

By claiming her actions have sanction under the laws of the Caldari State, Pilot Kim is essentially indicting her entire Nation's system of laws as complicit in approving her crimes against humanity.

I'm curious. How come the ships defending them are all registered to the Gallente Navy?

my guess?
The black eagles, in part or whole, are known for their duplicitous nature.
transponder signals don't always tell the truth.

How about this, by the power vested in moi as a Gallente loyalist Capsuleer with no official Federation government authority whatsoever... I hereby declare all Caldari detainees currently being held in Black Rise facilities GUILTY. Sentence to be carried out with due expedience by Black Eagles personnel I, again... have no authority over or official affiliation with whatsoever.

... you CAN'T just name people GIULTY without giving them chance to defend themselves. We will show you that you CAN'T convict people without fair and just tribunal.

Its worse than that. We've heard numerous pilots of all nationalities point out that these Black Rise detention facilities are a violation of Gallente law just as much as they violate every principle our society holds dear. It's my view as well that these facilities are illegal under Federal law, operated by rogue actors.

By claiming her actions have sanction under the laws of the Caldari State, Pilot Kim is essentially indicting her entire Nation's system of laws as complicit in approving her crimes against humanity.

Agreed. And neither can you, you quivering little ball of cognitive dissonance.

That's exactly what you did. You have no legal authority to try Gallente citizens, or anyone else for that matter, other than what you have granted yourself.

Your "trials" are a sham. Your "tribunals" are a sham. The only thing that isn't a sham about your whole act is the blood on your hands.

That's exactly what you did. You have no legal authority to try Gallente citizens, or anyone else for that matter, other than what you have granted yourself.

Your "trials" are a sham. Your "tribunals" are a sham. The only thing that isn't a sham about your whole act is the blood on your hands.

Commander Kim's statelessness as a Capsuleer is the only explanation for her liberty to continue what would be crimes if she were a State citizen or regular Navy personnel. You know it. I know it. On some level I assume she knows it and uses her status as a Capsuleer to do the things she thinks MUST be done, if the Federation is to be destroyed.

On the other hand, the crime here is the illegal detention centers. Which are operated by the Federation - an organisation which talks an awful lot about freedoms and liberty and morality, but has shown itself capable of the kind of expediency that your organisation regularly accuses the State of.

Or maybe you forgot how many peoples YOU have killed?

Tuulinen-haan, for you public lies about me I challenge you to duel.
If you still have your honor after such disgusting lies like me being "statelessness", you have one tiny chance to restore it.

In ships, on firearms, swords or hand to hand - your choice.