|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
infraX
Caldari Finite Horizon The Red Skull
|
Posted - 2006.11.19 21:15:00 -
[1]
For the love of god, I've posted once and I'll post again:
Why is a NOS setup more effective than a setup with guns (specifically lasers/hybrids)?
Is this what you want CCP? Everyone fits as much NOS as they can on their bs to out drain their opponent and kill them off with some light drones?
Give me just a little acknowledgement that is is a HUGE problem and no amount of extra cap or cap booster charges is going to fix this. I'm really not looking forward to this NOS fest hitting TQ. The idea has long been: kill the enemy before A) They kill you. and B) You run out of cap. This just isn't possible anymore. Gank is too easy to tank for long enough to survive and there is far too much time to NOS the opponent down. The only way I can think to kill these jokers with the uber NOS/Neut setups is to fit the same kind of setup myself. I refuse to do this as it is just totally stupid.
Please see my other thread with more detailed problem analysis and less whining:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=422895
|
infraX
Caldari Finite Horizon The Red Skull
|
Posted - 2006.11.19 21:29:00 -
[2]
I think a stacking nerf might be a better solution. If you think about it, the hp increase is a stealth buff for NOS. In the exact same fight as before, you could Nos a certain amount of cap for a predetermined fight length. Now that fights are twice as long, you can Nos twice the amount of cap with the same setup in the same fight. The devs have realised this with regard to shield tanking and have nerfed the recharge rate so that the ship recharges about the same amount of hp passively as it would have done before. Not so with the amount of cap you can suck with a nosferatu though is it...
|
infraX
Caldari Finite Horizon The Red Skull
|
Posted - 2006.11.19 21:34:00 -
[3]
Originally by: Illistar DeathWing Edited by: Illistar DeathWing on 19/11/2006 21:27:26 That is a problem, however it's the same as any ecm ship. What's the difference between fitting eccm, oposed to cap recharge mods? We all know ecm ships are hugely powerfull and there is little you can do if they just lock you out forever. It's the same thing. Have you tested multiple cap recharge mods?
Also you forget passive shield tanking, although out of the question for most amarr ship every other race has ships they could passive shield tank, Raven and dominix come to mind, as well as any mini ship.
I would like to see something done to nos, but rightout nerfing them also nerfs ships that get bonuses to nos. So how about instead, they nerf it, but increase the bonus nos ships get?
Recharge mods don't help, they've never been much good except for NPC/mission setups. A cap injector is the way to go but is still about as useful as a chocolate fireguard for solving the problem, especially when your guns use cap aswell. I've nost tested passive shield tanking because I am primarily a Gallente or Amarr pilot so never shield tank.
I did note that nerfing NOS would be an indirect nerf to ships like the curse and bhaalgorn in my other post and I suggested there that perhaps they should get some sort of compensation bonus.
|
infraX
Caldari Finite Horizon The Red Skull
|
Posted - 2006.11.20 07:53:00 -
[4]
Originally by: Quilan Ziller
*<snip>*
This IS a problem for 50% of the races in the game.
This IS a problem for combat less that 25km where combat is MEANINGFUL because above 20km the target warps.
Staying "out of range" with a turret setup does not work, refer to previous point.
I don't want to fit my own NOS, NOS is totally lame, why make something that costs a few k sp to use be far more effective than 9 million skillpoints in gunnery?
Only one race can effectively passively tank. Armour tankers are screwed.
Increasing cap by 50% along with 50% hp DOES change thing to the way they are on tq, there is far more time for a NOS setup to work now.
Your AF argument is nothing to do with this problem, read my other post.
...I cba to answer all of your points. You are clearly an idiot that has no clue about pvp.
|
|
|
|