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Daelin Blackleaf
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Posted - 2006.11.20 16:48:00 -
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Ive seen the new engine (DX9) running on a Geforce 8800, but that's a little beyond my price range. So Im wondering what the likely minimum and recommended specs will be for the two upcoming graphics engines.
Id like to think that with all demonstrations and the like knocking about CCP have at least a vague idea what the required hardware will be. A lot of us are wondering what damage the upgrade is going to do to our wallet (cos spiffy graphics are a necessity) and with christmas looming Id hate to ask Santa for the wrong graphics card  .
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Redundancy
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Posted - 2006.11.20 17:44:00 -
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You're in a good position by making sure that what you ask for has shader model 3.0, in order to be able to take advantage of the best that DX9 has to offer. Other than that, I'd recommend you just go by the various existing online comparisons / benchmarks and recommendations that tend to apply almost equally to most games that push the GPU a bit.
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Locke DieDrake
Human Information Virus
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Posted - 2006.11.20 17:49:00 -
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AFAIK there aren't any DX10 graphics cards yet.
If there are, it would be the 8800 and whatever ATI's latest is.
That being said, something like a 7900 is going to be a good bet.
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Grez
Minmatar
The Raven Warriors
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Posted - 2006.11.20 17:51:00 -
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Edited by: Grez on 20/11/2006 18:02:03
X1800 GTO (ATI) and 7600 GT/GTX (Nvidia) are good choices, and not that pricey (ú100-ú150).
(X1800 GTO is the better choice if you can find it)
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.20 17:54:00 -
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 Originally by: Locke DieDrake
AFAIK there aren't any DX10 graphics cards yet.
If there are, it would be the 8800 and whatever ATI's latest is.
That being said, something like a 7900 is going to be a good bet.
The 8800 is. But very expensive. 
More on it here.
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maarud
Einherjar Incorporated
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.20 17:54:00 -
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so my ATI 6800 ain't gonna cut it no more :(
maarud.
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Grez
Minmatar
The Raven Warriors
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Posted - 2006.11.20 17:56:00 -
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Edited by: Grez on 20/11/2006 17:57:27
Edited by: Grez on 20/11/2006 17:56:53
Originally by: maarud
so my ATI 6800 ain't gonna cut it no more :(
FYI, 6800 supports Shader Model 3.0, and the 6800 is by Nvidia.
Tomorrow I'll make a post with a list of all SM3.0 supported cards.
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xeom
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.11.20 17:58:00 -
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/me pats his 7900 GT
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D'onryu Shoqui
Vengeance of the Fallen
Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.20 18:00:00 -
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/me strokes his credit card
/me waits for ms to release vista 
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Angelus Custos
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.20 18:35:00 -
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Ok, i see lots of talk about the new DX9 engine... i though the new engine was DX10. DX9 has been around for years, my Radeon 9800 PRO is DX9, and its practically ancient by computer component standards. In fact the current EVE client require DX9c, the latest DX9 version.
So what is it? If its DX10 Geforce 8800 is the only card today that will do the trick, if its DX9 they dont sell cards that cant handle it anymore.
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Lebowske
M. Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.20 18:35:00 -
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Edited by: Lebowske on 20/11/2006 18:42:20
Originally by: Locke DieDrake
AFAIK there aren't any DX10 graphics cards yet.
If there are, it would be the 8800 and whatever ATI's latest is.
That being said, something like a 7900 is going to be a good bet.
8800 has DX10 - and it's been available for roughly 2 weeks. It rocks.
EDIT: Oh and beware - ONLY Vista will support DX10 - at least reading the current pressreleases from Microsoft. So if you stay on Windows Xp, you can run the DX9 client - if you have Vista, you will be able to drool over the "so called 5-6 times better performance from DX10 compared to DX9".
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Sgt Blade
Imperial Space Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.20 18:37:00 -
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would the 6600GT make it ?
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RatBoy Deblade
Gallente
Celestial Horizon Corp.
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Posted - 2006.11.20 18:38:00 -
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What is going to be the minimum spec for the new gf-engine?
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Reiisha
Frontier Technologies
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Posted - 2006.11.20 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Redundancy
You're in a good position by making sure that what you ask for has shader model 3.0, in order to be able to take advantage of the best that DX9 has to offer. Other than that, I'd recommend you just go by the various existing online comparisons / benchmarks and recommendations that tend to apply almost equally to most games that push the GPU a bit.
What about SM1.4 and 2.0? (not 2.0b mind you) Do FX and 9600+ owners get shafted in this department? :P
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.20 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Sgt Blade
would the 6600GT make it ?
AFAIK, the whole GeForce 6 family support Shader Model 3.0, so if thats the stumbling block then 6600GT should cut it.
I've only got a 6200, so heres hoping...........
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keepiru
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.11.20 18:41:00 -
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/me pats his X1900XTX 
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Locke DieDrake
Human Information Virus
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Posted - 2006.11.20 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Sgt Blade
would the 6600GT make it ?
It's shader model 3.
http://www.nvidia.com/page/geforce_6600.html
I run 4 of these in my 3 computers. (main rig is sli'd) The performance is nice, but it's getting on the low side.
This card can run DX10 (most likely) but it's going to be on the slow side.
Time to start looking at upgrading. I already know which cards I'll be getting. 7950 GTX, four of them. It's my xmass gift to myself.
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Ithildin
Gallente
The Corporation
The Corporation Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.20 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: Redundancy
You're in a good position by making sure that what you ask for has shader model 3.0, in order to be able to take advantage of the best that DX9 has to offer. Other than that, I'd recommend you just go by the various existing online comparisons / benchmarks and recommendations that tend to apply almost equally to most games that push the GPU a bit.
Did a quick search and it seems like ATI users would need X1000 family cards or later.
For Nvidia it seems like GeForce 6600 and onwards features the shader model 3.0.
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F2C MaDMaXX
London Transport
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.20 18:52:00 -
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Hmm, the 9600 is a really old card, yes, you'll get at least partially shafted with it.
The FX range (nvidia) is quite honestly the worst range of cards ever to "grace" the planet, nvidia very quickly stopped making it and brought out their next range which was pretty good.
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Letouk Mernel
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Posted - 2006.11.20 18:58:00 -
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Edited by: Letouk Mernel on 20/11/2006 19:00:19
I know that an NVidia 6600 Pro supports the shaders v.3. My problem was finding an AGP card that supported this, as an upgrade for my old NVidia GeForce 4. Most of the stuff out there is either:
a. PCI-E and supports shaders v.3.
b. Old AGP cards that don't support it.
Hard to find.
It looks like we're moving into the mid-range ($250) cards being required for the nicer features, with the high range ($450) cards being recommended, and the regular stuff that usually gets bundled with computers ($100 price range) not cutting it. But that's usually how it goes with games.
The biggest problem cards have right now is that Shaders 3 is a new standard that some cards don't support, just like Hardware T&L was back when EVE was released.
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On Edge
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Posted - 2006.11.20 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: Angelus Custos
Ok, i see lots of talk about the new DX9 engine... i though the new engine was DX10. DX9 has been around for years, my Radeon 9800 PRO is DX9, and its practically ancient by computer component standards. In fact the current EVE client require DX9c, the latest DX9 version.
So what is it? If its DX10 Geforce 8800 is the only card today that will do the trick, if its DX9 they dont sell cards that cant handle it anymore.
There will be 2 versions of the new graphics engine, afaik the screenshots we are currently seeing are of the DX9 graphics update so most people will be able to keep same system etc. But there will also be the uber DX10 version which as stated above we will need Vista along with the appropriate new graphics card to be able to run.
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Bombcrater
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.20 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lebowske
8800 has DX10 - and it's been available for roughly 2 weeks. It rocks.
There's a slight issue with the 8800 cards -- the public driver NVidia supplies for them only supports DX9 right now. So even if you have an 8800 and Windows Vista DX10 still doesn't work yet.
As for good DX9 cards, ú120 will get a 7900GS which is a superb card. And a really good bargain is the DDR3 version of the 7300GT. It's about as quick as a 6800GT, but less than ú70 brand new. |
K1K1R1K1
Team Machine Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.11.20 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Redundancy
You're in a good position by making sure that what you ask for has shader model 3.0, in order to be able to take advantage of the best that DX9 has to offer. Other than that, I'd recommend you just go by the various existing online comparisons / benchmarks and recommendations that tend to apply almost equally to most games that push the GPU a bit.
Redundancy, will the dx9 upgrade version sport the self shading? Or is that reserved for the hobos who will have dx10?
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Locke DieDrake
Human Information Virus
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Posted - 2006.11.20 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Letouk Mernel
Edited by: Letouk Mernel on 20/11/2006 19:00:19
I know that an NVidia 6600 Pro supports the shaders v.3. My problem was finding an AGP card that supported this, as an upgrade for my old NVidia GeForce 4. Most of the stuff out there is either:
a. PCI-E and supports shaders v.3.
b. Old AGP cards that don't support it.
Hard to find.
It looks like we're moving into the mid-range ($250) cards being required for the nicer features, with the high range ($450) cards being recommended, and the regular stuff that usually gets bundled with computers ($100 price range) not cutting it. But that's usually how it goes with games.
The biggest problem cards have right now is that Shaders 3 is a new standard that some cards don't support, just like Hardware T&L was back when EVE was released.
You can get 6600Gt's that are AGP. In fact, would you like to buy one? I've got a spare.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.20 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Locke DieDrake
Originally by: Letouk Mernel
Edited by: Letouk Mernel on 20/11/2006 19:00:19
I know that an NVidia 6600 Pro supports the shaders v.3. My problem was finding an AGP card that supported this, as an upgrade for my old NVidia GeForce 4. Most of the stuff out there is either:
a. PCI-E and supports shaders v.3.
b. Old AGP cards that don't support it.
Hard to find.
It looks like we're moving into the mid-range ($250) cards being required for the nicer features, with the high range ($450) cards being recommended, and the regular stuff that usually gets bundled with computers ($100 price range) not cutting it. But that's usually how it goes with games.
The biggest problem cards have right now is that Shaders 3 is a new standard that some cards don't support, just like Hardware T&L was back when EVE was released.
You can get 6600Gt's that are AGP. In fact, would you like to buy one? I've got a spare.
How much......?
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Taurequis
Waylander 01
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Posted - 2006.11.20 19:31:00 -
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Whats the best AGP card that would support it?
6600 has been mentioned...
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Locke DieDrake
Human Information Virus
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Posted - 2006.11.20 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86
How much......?
I'm not really sure, but if you are seriously interested, I would actually point you this way Linkage
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Synapse Archae
Amarr
Solarflare Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.20 19:38:00 -
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Edited by: Synapse Archae on 20/11/2006 19:38:58
Lets take this discussion a little further. I could be switching countries within 6 months.
I will need a laptop to play eve.
What is there on the horizon for DirectX10 Compatable Laptops?
PS- I run eve on a PNY "Verto" GeForce 2 Pro (64mb). Beat that!
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Shigsy
Caldari
Four Horsemen
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Posted - 2006.11.20 19:45:00 -
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****, I hope my new 8800GTX will be able to cope with the DX9 engine...
I can't wait to order this biatch! Just gotta get everything finalised. Woo me.
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Valrandir
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.11.20 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: maarud
so my ATI 6800 ain't gonna cut it no more :(
There is no such thing in existence as an ATI6800.
If you mean the NVIDIA 6800, then it does support shader model 3.0.
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