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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.12 16:07:00 -
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worst. idea. ever.
Nope. That honour still goes to Waawaa Ragnar and his "Hey Corp - lets move to Venal!" declaration. 
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Draka
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Posted - 2003.11.12 16:30:00 -
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Look at the thread entitled "The way things should have been". IF, and ONLY IF, the game was restored to the original design and implemented along the lines of that thread, I would accept a pwipe, and/or instantaneously move to a second server. Anything less, and the answer is no.
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LiverpoolFC
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Posted - 2003.11.12 16:59:00 -
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They say a 2nd Server would be required if they hit 15,000 concurrent players on a regular basis. We appear to be running around 4000-5000 so a long way to go.
It would be nice to start again, have done it many times on other games but only when I have completed them. As this game as no "end-game" in sight I would not want to lose what I have achieved since game release.
I see where your comming from but in reality too many people have invested too much time in Eve.
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BeefStu
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Posted - 2003.11.12 17:24:00 -
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lol moostradamus u actually made me laugh out loud. thanks to all the people who understand that im not sugesting that ccp actually do a pwipe but rather that i just wanted to know who out there would be willing to give up all their hard work to make the game what it should have been. |
Deloup Drakar
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Posted - 2003.11.12 18:23:00 -
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Ive been here as long as most players (since beta) and i have a ton of skill points and cool loot and isk but id give it all up to keep Eve from going down the drain that it appears (at least to me) to be circling already only 6 months after launch.
Unless your posting under an alt, your full of BS since the character avatar's on the boards worked a while ago.
IMHO you just started this game and want it reset so your even with everybody else. You got nothing to loose compaired to the ppl who have been here long.
Go hop on a pole.
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BeefStu
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Posted - 2003.11.12 18:30:00 -
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yes this is one of my alts. shame on me! |
Xander Teg
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Posted - 2003.11.12 18:39:00 -
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worst idea in the history of all bad ideas.
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Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2003.11.12 18:42:00 -
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Edited by: Drethen Nerevitas on 12/11/2003 18:44:13
Xander, let's not go that far...
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Deloup Drakar
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Posted - 2003.11.12 18:46:00 -
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yes this is one of my alts. shame on me!
Would have perhaps (no promises) gave you more respect if you would have had the courage to do the post with your main. No ammount of people saying "I know his main and he has alot to loose" will do justice as its thier word against any hard fact.
For any future postings of such idea, I'd strongly suggest doing it with an avatar that people know you have alot to loose, not just a joe-blow alt or n00b.
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Adliger Krieger
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Posted - 2003.11.12 19:34:00 -
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I would opt for a server reset. Money and items, skills, it's all relative. My gripe is that the beta testers had a HUGE advantage over everyone else ,mainly because the ore was not redistributed for weeks after the game went live. Those that knew where the Ark was were millionaires inside of a few hours. Maybe a 2nd server should open, those opting to start on a level playing field could join. Flame away, flamers.
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2003.11.12 19:56:00 -
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I wouldn¦t have any problem with a wipe. It¦s not like they¦re cutting your right arm off or something. They¦re just deleting a few 1s and 0s. No need to get all upset about something like this.
But a wipe is not needed. It wouldn¦t fix anything. The missing content would remain, the bugs would remain, the ship-balance problem would remain... so IMO a wipe wouldn¦t make a difference besides maybe the BP situation.
CCP would have to fix the game before a wipe, and if they¦ve fixed the game a wipe isn¦t needed anymore. Know what I mean?
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2003.11.12 21:02:00 -
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The real problem would be if they wiped everything and then found that all the fundemental flaws hadnt been addressed. This may set a dangerous precedent for them to wipe the data a second time for similar reasons.
And lets face it, eves player base would be crippled if that happened. It may be a game but alot of ppl have spent alot of time getting to where they are now to go back to nothing.
maybe if they refunded the rl money ppl paid to play the game prior to the wipe I would consider it. I would see anything else as a waste of my own money.
I have the body of a supermodel. I just can't remember where I left it... |
csebal
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Posted - 2003.11.12 22:39:00 -
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Well,
A player wipe? Maybe... lots of things are impossible to fix unless they do it, and as such, im for it...
BUT
The root of the problem is, that the current system rewards time spent online instead of creative ideas, and as such, no matter how ingenious you are, you'll never be able to reach the ones current on top, given they keep playing... you simply cant advance faster than them.
The game would need some ways to make a difference compared to the others. Things like the personalized research on blueprints would be a good start, but the game would need a lot more, to give latecomers a chance in the race.
Otherwise, its an "once first, always first" game, leaving a lot of players without goals to fight for. (Why fighting, if you have no chance to reach the top?)
Bottomline:
Once they made the changes necessary not to get the same problem again, im all for a fresh start. Not b4 that.
Sadly, im also sure they'll never do it, as they'll not risk losing the short-sighted majority just to make the game better.
ps. no, im not a new player, been here since B6. yes, this is my main, no, im not rich, but yes, i have a nice collection of assets i would lose with a pwipe
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This post is nothing more than my personal opinion. It does not represent the official standpoint of Fountain Alliance, or the HUN Corporation in any way.
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Znaei
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Posted - 2003.11.12 23:15:00 -
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I think I could do with a wipe of everything except skills and attributes. Dont care about my assets, they can always be regained.
But a total wipe.. no way!
clagnuts> im drunk just come back from pirates night in spain , wtf i thought it was some eve guys getting together for a drink , turned out to be a feken real pirates show , doh |
Jake Pliskin
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Posted - 2003.11.13 02:30:00 -
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Player Wipes in beta test were expected.
Within the first few weeks of release, would have angered a lot of people but they may have got away with it.
Player Wipe now, six months after release.
The game needs a lot of balancing, fixing, new content added. a player wipe wouldn't fix anything.
It just won't happen |
Cruise
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Posted - 2003.11.13 02:57:00 -
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Let's say they did fix ALL of the bugs in the game, balanced out the PvP problems, fixed the market, got the agent system and courier missions working properly, factions worked as they were intended and player-owned items were obtainable. If CCP accomplished ALL of that and took it down to a wipe - minus skill points and training skills/levels - I'd consider it, but not before then.
If they did a wipe at that point the mad rush for ship and weapons production, slugging it out for prime areas of space, regrouping of corporations and alliances would be a madhouse! Now THAT would be worth watching 
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Asimir Kurdugal
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Posted - 2003.11.13 03:30:00 -
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Even if they wiped and didn't change anything, I wouldn't really care.
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SUNscatcher
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Posted - 2003.11.13 05:33:00 -
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yea cruise that would be fun.
If you can catch me you can have me. |
Draka
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Posted - 2003.11.13 05:44:00 -
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Actually, if they do it RIGHT and have the full faction system in place, AND no Highways and all the other things in the thread "The way things should have been." then a wipe INCLUDING skills would be required, because a lot of the cross-Empire skills would be either not available or extremely hard to obtain.
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Lardarz B'stard
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Posted - 2003.11.13 05:48:00 -
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Maybe one day that they will make a new server if we got 100k players on Tranq.
Maybe one day monkeys will fly out of my butt.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.11.13 05:59:00 -
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Whazza? Is this guy supposed to make my ideas look sane by contrast?
There is a huge difference between nerfing future progress and deleting past progress. That difference is called:
Embarassingly painful ways to commit suicide. 
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Jonathon Reynolds
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Posted - 2003.11.13 06:19:00 -
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"but wouldnt it be nice to start fresh with some of the major issues fixed."
A player-wipe is a great idea.
You go first, we're right behind you, honest. 
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Draka
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Posted - 2003.11.13 06:53:00 -
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Been thru pwipes before. Hell, been thru GAMEWIPES when I no longer enjoyed them. Ain't committed suicide yet.
My condition still stands. Fix everything so we return to the original vision of this game, and I will lead the way, either to a new server or to a pwipe. Whether ya follow or not.
CEO
The Cinnaban Order
"Dedicated to a Free Minmatar Republic" |
Temujin Destovai
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Posted - 2003.11.13 08:23:00 -
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Although it would be kind of fun going through frigates and cruisers again, and have economy start afresh, it wouldnt change anything since not that much has changed, and we would be looking at the same thing in the near future again.
And it would probably cut the number of subscribers down to record lows.
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Adliger Krieger
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Posted - 2003.11.13 13:25:00 -
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Edited by: Adliger Krieger on 13/11/2003 13:28:14
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yes this is one of my alts. shame on me!
Would have perhaps (no promises) gave you more respect if you would have had the courage to do the post with your main. No ammount of people saying "I know his main and he has alot to loose" will do justice as its thier word against any hard fact.
For any future postings of such idea, I'd strongly suggest doing it with an avatar that people know you have alot to loose, not just a joe-blow alt or n00b.
What the @#$% does it matter if someone post under an alt or not? It is stupid to discount someones opinion simply becaue they choose to remain anonymous. With the number of rampant idiots playing this game and trolling this board, I don't blame BeefStu. He is not abusing his alt by flaming or spamming the forums, he is simply stating an opinion.
So many of you have this knee jerk reaction to seeing a post by an alt. "Ooooh, oooh, it's an alt, he has noooo credibility and he's a chicken!!" Just stupid.
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Adliger Krieger
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Posted - 2003.11.13 13:39:00 -
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Edited by: Adliger Krieger on 13/11/2003 13:52:26
READ THIS! LET'S SEE SOME FEEDBACK. AM I CRAZY?
By the way, this is my main and it has been in the game since the first week. I have tons to lose. But for me, the best time in the game was the first few weeks trying to figure out how to beat everyone else at making money. At the time I didnt realize there were beta testers just raking it in because CCP left the world pretty much exactly the same as in the beta. These beta testers are the most powerful in the game now, and filthy rich. If resetting the server meant a shuffling the world around, redistributing ore, moving good spawn locations, basically putting a blindfold on all of us and spinnind us around a few times, I think it would be great. The problem is that the people that started on day 1 will ALWAYS be more powerfull than people starting now, or even a month into the game. This is a major turn off for new players. It is even a turn off to seasoned players, because we get bored.
I think this game would be better played in "cycles" that lasted, say 6 months. Dismantle, start over. Then at least people would have some tangible goal. Right now the universe just seems to stagnant. We have Techell making everyones ships, SI and Biomass are the big bad pirates, all the Ark is gone, etc, etc.
A 6 month lifecycle would motivate people. There would be more action because the next cycle would be around the corner. Different layers of Tech could be used after each reset to make things interesting. New Races, bonuses, ships, weapons, etc. Not better, just different.
Newer players need a chance to get to the level of the people that started on day one. I recently signed up my GF. She loves the game. But she has asked me "What's the point? I can never even be half as powerful as you or anyone in your corp." What do you tell noobs? "Yep, too bad".
Just my .02 isk.
Flame on.
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BeefStu
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Posted - 2003.11.13 17:35:00 -
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I like that idea Adliger, except that having your skills wiped every 6 months or so would suck, but i see where your coming from. I still think however, that a playerwipe and implimentation of features the way they were suposed to be from the start is the only way to fix the damage thats been done. |
Toyo
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Posted - 2003.11.13 17:42:00 -
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I don't mind loosing BP copy's and the powers that be can take make any changes they feel necessary. But I've worked hard for my ship and invested a lot of time and effort into my character, I wouldn't be a happy chappy if I lost it all.
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SUNscatcher
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Posted - 2003.11.13 17:48:00 -
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It wouldn't be suicide Jash if the changes made created a game people loved to play.
If you can catch me you can have me. |
Adliger Krieger
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Posted - 2003.11.13 18:12:00 -
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Edited by: Adliger Krieger on 13/11/2003 21:25:13
Yes, skillz would be lost, but if you think about it, the entire skill system needs to be rethought. Right now the skill training system falls prey to the "Law of Diminishing Returns". Who is going to train for 30 days to get an extra 5% projectile turret damage? Skill bonuses should be stepped. Example=
lvl1 = Ability to use item
lvl2 = 2% damage increase
lvl3 = 4% damage increase
lvl4 = 8% damage increase
lvl5 = 16% damage increase /plus random super hit +%50 damage.
You get the idea. There is no reason to train to level 5 in anything unless it is required to start another skill.
That said, I LOVE THIS GAME EVEN WITH ALL OF ITS FAULTS!!!
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