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Apu God Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.06.11 19:10:01 - [1] - Quote Hello you all. I am looking friends to play with like stated in the topic. I am flying in Lanngisi and doing SOE missions. THE QUESTION: Any suggestions how to go at it? Not looking to join corp at the moment but if someone knows corp that is doing this then why not. No to NegativeNellyss and SandySally's(sand in the vagiiina)!
Kitty Bear Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance 1460	Posted - 2015.06.12 09:26:17 - [2] - Quote helpmymission channel is one place to look there used to be a channel called level4 (or something similar) .. have no idea if it's active anymore if existing community channels don't meet your needs you could create your own and advertise it in the appropriate places
Bellatrix Invicta New Order Logistics CODE. 8	Posted - 2015.06.12 16:06:13 - [3] - Quote Apu God wrote: Hello you all. I am looking friends to play with like stated in the topic. I am flying in Lanngisi and doing SOE missions. THE QUESTION: Any suggestions how to go at it? Not looking to join corp at the moment but if someone knows corp that is doing this then why not. No to NegativeNellyss and SandySally's(sand in the vagiiina)! You should join a player corp ASAP.
McChicken Combo HalfMayo The Happy Meal 766	Posted - 2015.06.12 17:37:22 - [4] - Quote The point of doing SOE missions is their higher LP value. If you are splitting rewards you lose that advantage. You are better off just running 3s until you're ready to solo 4s. If social interaction is what you wanted train towards and try out incursions. L4 security missions are a solo thing. There are all our dominion Gate camps: "Its like the lowsec watercooler, just with explosions and boose" - Ralph King-Griffin
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 10042	Posted - 2015.06.12 17:39:07 - [5] - Quote or join a player corp =]\|[=
Bellatrix Invicta New Order Logistics CODE. 8	Posted - 2015.06.12 17:43:27 - [6] - Quote McChicken Combo HalfMayo wrote: The point of doing SOE missions is their higher LP value. If you are splitting rewards you lose that advantage. You are better off just running 3s until you're ready to solo 4s. If social interaction is what you wanted train towards and try out incursions. L4 security missions are a solo thing. And no they're not. Well, they don't have to be, nor should they be. Everything in EvE is more fun with friends. EVERYTHING.
McChicken Combo HalfMayo The Happy Meal 766	Posted - 2015.06.12 17:52:29 - [7] - Quote I fear he'd join a mission running corp. Bellatrix Invicta wrote: McChicken Combo HalfMayo wrote: The point of doing SOE missions is their higher LP value. If you are splitting rewards you lose that advantage. You are better off just running 3s until you're ready to solo 4s. If social interaction is what you wanted train towards and try out incursions. L4 security missions are a solo thing. And no they're not. Well, they don't have to be, nor should they be. Everything in EvE is more fun with friends. EVERYTHING. If friends made L4 missions 50 times more fun they still wouldn't be fun. Incursions at least require team work and paying attention. I'd like to see security missions become more team oriented but they aren't. Until then incursions are your best option for cooperative PVE. There are all our dominion Gate camps: "Its like the lowsec watercooler, just with explosions and boose" - Ralph King-Griffin
Bellatrix Invicta New Order Logistics CODE. 8	Posted - 2015.06.12 17:56:03 - [8] - Quote McChicken Combo HalfMayo wrote: I fear he'd join a mission running corp. Bellatrix Invicta wrote: McChicken Combo HalfMayo wrote: The point of doing SOE missions is their higher LP value. If you are splitting rewards you lose that advantage. You are better off just running 3s until you're ready to solo 4s. If social interaction is what you wanted train towards and try out incursions. L4 security missions are a solo thing. And no they're not. Well, they don't have to be, nor should they be. Everything in EvE is more fun with friends. EVERYTHING. If friends made L4 missions 50 times more fun they still wouldn't be fun. Incursions at least require team work and paying attention. I'd like to see security missions become more team oriented but they aren't. Until then incursions are your best option for cooperative PVE. No, they're YOUR best option. Quit passing off your opinion as truth.
Exotic Matters Fried Liver Attack 49	Posted - 2015.06.13 00:47:12 - [9] - Quote If I wanted to do what you are asking for, I would simply found a corp, and advertise that we run missions, etc during a particular timezone. You will attract like minded folk. The only problem with this is that someone would probably wardec you, your bunch of new players would cry and stop playing the game. There is an easy solution though, simply move out of hisec and the wardeccers won't bother you. There you can run DED sites that pay a whole lot more, and are actually more suited toward team play. Nullsec is not really that scary. Providence is downright friendly and has channels to keep you abreast of the location of any hostiles, you just have to take the time to learn how everything works there.
Webvan All Kill No Skill 9474	Posted - 2015.06.13 03:30:32 - [10] - Quote Bellatrix Invicta wrote: No, they're YOUR best option. Quit passing off your opinion as truth. ikr, some people like doing missions, among other things usually. I did missions in EnB, then SWG, and now here. I highly pref them over themepark quests. As for incursion being the only option, there are DED sites and lvl5 missions as well. Some epic arcs are good with a group. Also FW missions, though usually solo SB there, but other things happen. So OP, you shouldn't have a hard time finding a corp that likes to roam and do missions. lvl4 is usually more solo, but can be fun for dong it in a small group of frigs.

Tao Dolcino Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave 414	Posted - 2015.06.13 06:24:51 - [11] - Quote We are in a new players forum. Do you really think talking about incursions is relevant here ? As for the OP, you should really specify at which times of the day you are regulary online, it'd help a lot. Also, no offense, but your signature doesn't motivate me to team with you (about the sand). CCP 2015 : "Fluff is good"
Ovv Topik Hoplite Brigade 724	Posted - 2015.06.13 08:04:05 - [12] - Quote Tao Dolcino wrote: We are in a new players forum. Do you really think talking about incursions is relevant here ? As for the OP, you should really specify at which times of the day you are regulary online, it'd help a lot. Also, no offense, but your signature doesn't motivate me to team with you (about the sand). He did say 'train towards' Incursions. Which is the group pve content of EvE. OP: Start reading up on http://forums.eve-warptome.com/ and watch a few Incursion videos on youtube to get an overview of whats involved. You certainly cant jump right in, but T1 BS's like the Rokh are not that long to train up. You can progress from there. "Nicknack, I'm in a shoe in space, on my computer, in my house, with a cup of coffee, in't that something." - Fly Safe PopPaddi. o7
Webvan All Kill No Skill 9513	Posted - 2015.06.13 11:59:24 - [13] - Quote Ovv Topik wrote: He did say 'train towards' Incursions. Which is the group pve content of EvE. OP: Start reading up on http://forums.eve-warptome.com/ and watch a few Incursion videos on youtube to get an overview of whats involved. You certainly cant jump right in, but T1 BS's like the Rokh are not that long to train up. You can progress from there. umm... long time. HOWever, look into eve uni if you want to get into that stuff, they will take lower SP players for various tasks, as you train.
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 602	Posted - 2015.06.13 13:11:36 - [14] - Quote McChicken Combo HalfMayo wrote: The point of doing SOE missions is their higher LP value. If you are splitting rewards you lose that advantage. You are better off just running 3s until you're ready to solo 4s. If social interaction is what you wanted train towards and try out incursions. L4 security missions are a solo thing. This is terrible advice. While it is probably true that once you have decent Battleship skills that you can likely make more isk per hour running level 4 standard missions solo than in a group earlier on you are likely better running level 4's in a group rather than level 3's solo. However none of that is all that important. It's a game and it's about having fun. Either way you'll make decent isk. Now when it comes to burner missions they are very difficult to solo. They are also a butt ton of LP and can be completed in a short amount of time. So running level 4's in a group so that you have multiple people for the burner missions I think is a solid strategy. Exotic Matters wrote: If I wanted to do what you are asking for, I would simply found a corp, and advertise that we run missions, etc during a particular timezone. You will attract like minded folk. The only problem with this is that someone would probably wardec you, your bunch of new players would cry and stop playing the game. There is an easy solution though, simply move out of hisec and the wardeccers won't bother you. There you can run DED sites that pay a whole lot more, and are actually more suited toward team play. Nullsec is not really that scary. Providence is downright friendly and has channels to keep you abreast of the location of any hostiles, you just have to take the time to learn how everything works there. What Exotic says here is pretty good advice. High sec mission running corps are prone to war decs. You are probably better off staying in a starter corp and finding friends in public channels or making a mission running community if that is your goal. However like Exotic said getting into Provi and running anoms is not that difficult and way better isk. If you wanted more advice on that send me an in game mail but just keep in mind null sec is not as scary as many new players think that it is. Many go into low sec and see how risky it is and assume null sec is worse when it most cases is much safer.
Kitty Bear Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance 1465	Posted - 2015.06.14 08:42:06 - [15] - Quote Tao Dolcino wrote: We are in a new players forum. Do you really think talking about incursions is relevant here ? As for the OP, you should really specify at which times of the day you are regulary online, it'd help a lot. Also, no offense, but your signature doesn't motivate me to team with you (about the sand). Yes Incursions are a very relevant topic here. By discussing 'leet' activities of the game in a sensible AND factual manner we enable new players to make INFORMED CHOICES on the activities they can/will participate in.
Apu God Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.06.18 17:15:29 - [16] - Quote Nice to see so many to reply. - I have been in 2 different player corp and like stated in original post not looking to join one because wardec possibility . - I have been in low sec also. ---> not going back until more SP. - I know about incursions. ---> not going to start those before (surprise surprise) more SP. - I already can run lvl 4 missions solo just looking gaming company to make it more fun. Thanks to all anyways. Actually not much new information for me was posted here but still helped me to plan my next step to get friends in the game. If you know someone who likes to do missions like i do feel free to pass my information and/or hit me with a message.
Apu God Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.06.18 17:19:25 - [17] - Quote Tao Dolcino wrote: Also, no offense, but your signature doesn't motivate me to team with you (about the sand). No offense taken. I posted that to cut down players i would not get along with. Extra information is posted for a reason to tell other players what state of mind and what approach i take to the game :) I hate to play with people who have sand in da pussy.
Donnachadh United Allegiance of Undesirables 323	Posted - 2015.06.20 01:28:01 - [18] - Quote McChicken Combo HalfMayo wrote: The point of doing SOE missions is their higher LP value. If you are splitting rewards you lose that advantage. You are better off just running 3s until you're ready to solo 4s. If social interaction is what you wanted train towards and try out incursions. L4 security missions are a solo thing. Wondering why it is, even in a topic that is about finding friends to fly and have fun with the damnable ISK per hour crap always comes up. For many players ISK per hour is not even on the radar, flying with friends and having fun is what matters at least to some of us. Missions at all levels can be a tremendous amount of fun if you have a good group to fly with. With a good group you can easily equal or better your ISK per hour(if that is your thing in missions) over doing them solo. More missions over the same period of time = more pay for everyone involved. If ISK per hour is your primary / only concern then blitzing level 3 missions will always yield the best ISK and LP per hour. To the OP. Finding a good group to fly with can be difficult, and flying in gank space like Lanngisi , or Apanake may limit your options as many mission runners that do not specifically need SOE standings will not even come close to those systems and many others in the game. Asking around in local is one way to find a group. As mentioned there are in game channels specifically for mission runners so those would be good to look into. Moving out of the area you are in may be another good idea. The vast majority of those I have ever met running SOE missions are doing them for the LP to ISK conversion, or for SOE standings and in either case it is not likely they will want mission partners, like McChicken Combo many of them have the incorrect notion that fleets will always lower your ISk / LP per hour. It can be hard to find a good group to fly with no matter what aspect of EvE you are interested in and it may take some time and a lot of moving / looking around before you find the group that is right for you.
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 610	Posted - 2015.06.20 12:32:10 - [19] - Quote Apu God wrote: Nice to see so many to reply. - I have been in low sec also. ---> not going back until more SP. - I know about incursions. ---> not going to start those before (surprise surprise) more SP. I once watched a brand new player on a character that was less than 24 hours old go on a roam with a twitch streamer (I think it was Sir Squeebles) and be productive in the group and make a decent amount of isk after they sold the faction mods that they looted from the players that they killed. It looks like your character was created in January. After 3 or 4 days you should have all the skill points that you need to fly around low sec. You are using skill points as an excuse, they are not holding you back. Player skill is what is preventing you from getting solo kills in low sec and the only cure to that is experience and experience means loosing some ships. So you will never be ready for low sec until you've flown around low sec for a while and lost some ships and gained some experience. I have over 120 million skill points and if I were to go into low sec I would get my backside handed to me on a platter. The reason is that I have no experience at PvP or flying around low sec. So if you don't want to PvP or have no interest in low sec then don't go there but stop using your skill points as an excuse as they most certainly are not holding you back. As far as incursions go if you want to fly with one of the groups that does it regularly then yes you'll need to be able to at least fly one of their starter fits that they have linked in the MoTD of their channels. If this is something that interests you then you should not be waiting for some magic skill point number as you could have 100 million skill points but if they are all in industry and trade then you'll be no closer to flying incursions than a one day old character. So if incursion are something that you would like to do then get into those channels and start figuring out which group that you'd like to fly with and get one of their starter fits and put it into EFT and get a specific skill plan so that you can see exactly to the second how long it would take you to fly with those guys. Just as a note I made an alt a few years back to run pirate missions in NPC null sec. By the time that alt was about 2 months old I was running level 3s solo in NPC null sec with no issues. Would more skill points have helped me do the missions a little faster? Probably but they weren't taking so long that it would have been that much of a difference anyway. TL;dr stop using your skill points as an excuse.
Lilith Folkvardr Nocx Initiative 0	Posted - 2015.06.30 04:25:46 - [20] - Quote Heya! If you are still looking for a partner for Level 4 Security missions, then I would love to help you out, I am trailing some builds, and wouldn't mind testing them out, I only fly Minmatar though.. So that might be an issue.. But if it isn't, then I would be happy to give you all rewards and stuff, I am just doing it for the experience, I have a Rupture, and a Hurricane, both good ships, still working with builds to optimize them. So yeah.. Let me know if you want to fly some, I have a Corporation Ts3 that you can use too for it, and help us burn through missions and stuff, and make you some ISK'ies! And if you want to try some PvP i'd be happy to try dueling you, and even taking you Wormhole hunting (I am the CEO of a Wormhole Corp), either ways, I hope to hear from you or hope someone else has helped you out! :) Fly safe, or fly hard!

Kitty Bear Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance 1483	Posted - 2015.06.30 07:13:43 - [21] - Quote You can run L4's for several reasons - LP Store items - ISK/hr grinding - Something to do in the first 2 choices flying Solo is the better option as you don't want to be splitting rewards with those reasons for L4 running newbro's can learn some basics in a less hostile environment standings shortcut for agent access and a lower skilled fit has a better chance of survival when it has friends nearby the rewards are kinda sucky when shared over 2-4 people however that last is why a lot of people don't recommend it isk/hr isn't the only thing in eve
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 633	Posted - 2015.06.30 20:17:09 - [22] - Quote Kitty Bear wrote: You can run L4's for several reasons - LP Store items - ISK/hr grinding - Something to do in the first 2 choices flying Solo is the better option as you don't want to be splitting rewards with those reasons for L4 running newbro's can learn some basics in a less hostile environment standings shortcut for agent access and a lower skilled fit has a better chance of survival when it has friends nearby the rewards are kinda sucky when shared over 2-4 people however that last is why a lot of people don't recommend it isk/hr isn't the only thing in eve While there is truth here I would not say that this is entirely true as a blanket statement. From my experience when you barely have the skill points to run level 4's you can finish them more than twice as fast with 2 as you can solo assuming that you focus fire accordingly. If you have a highly skilled character and know how to run level 4's then yes you will be better off running them solo as far as isk / hour is concerned. The first note that I would like to make is something that I discovered after the fact, or maybe was too proud to admit at the time, which is that unless you have fairly high skill points for a typical level 4 mission boat then you are most likely better off running level 3 missions as far as isk per hour is concerned. The level 3s are significantly less isk per mission but can be completed much faster so you wind up making more per time frame. My experience in this category is prior to burner missions being introduced which could tilt the scale I will admit however IMHO it just points more towards group efforts. My second note on this is about the burner missions themselves. I know that burner missions can be soloed however due to the expensive frigates needed to run them and the fact that you come so close to loosing your ship on each one when you do try to solo I think that you would be much better off doing them in groups. I'll admit I don't have much experience in this not enough to give experienced commentary as far as isk per hour but with that qualification out of the way my guess is that now-a-days you might be better off running normal level 4's in groups only to get the burners and thus already have a group ready. One thing that I want to point out here is that many mission rats have active reppers. So let's say for example a mission rat is repping 100 HP / sec and you are doing 110 DPS. If you were to increase your DPS by 10% and be doing 120 DPS you would effectively cut in half the amount of time needed to kill that NPC. For this reason I say that low skill point players are much better off doing level 4s in groups. Early on in my game play when I had low skill points and was doing level 4's in a drake while skilling up for a Battleship some missions would take me 4 hours to complete. I could not figure out how anyone could make isk in this game. Then as my skills went up and I moved into battleships then had more breathing room to fit more tank and less gank and eventually get into Marauders I got those missions down under a half hour. So if you are running level 4s and watching NPCs rep most of the damage that you applied back up only to have to use the majority of your next volley to get you back to where you were then you are probably better off either running level 3s solo or running level 4s in groups. However like others have said isk per hour isn't the only factor in this game and not even the main factor for most players. It is a game after all and what should be more important in a game than having fun?


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