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AeonOfTime
Syrkos Technologies Joint Venture Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.06.12 10:27:25 -
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After realizing how many players do not know what an undock bookmark is, I wrote up a small guide on bookmarking that delves into creating undock bookmarks, as well as docking bookmarks.
Bookmarking guide
An extension to the guide for safespot bookmarks is planned as well, which is the logical step after the docking bookmarks.
As always, input is appreciated - especially if I am talking nonsense again 
Lone wolf and nomad extraordinaire. eve.aeonoftime.com
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AeonOfTime
Syrkos Technologies Joint Venture Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.06.12 10:38:52 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:This would go down well in citizens q&a
Ah, I had a look in the forums first to see if there was a general help/info channel but I must have overlooked that. I'll check it out and post there as well. Thanks!
Lone wolf and nomad extraordinaire. eve.aeonoftime.com
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AeonOfTime
Syrkos Technologies Joint Venture Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.06.12 11:36:07 -
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Stacy Lone wrote:I aprreciate the effort, but some of the information in that guide is either misleading or wrong.
First of all, undoking. You have a slight window of invulnerability when undocking. If you have a proper insta-undock, you *can not* be caught on undock no matter what ship you are flying. While this part of your guide is quite good, this is worth mentioning.
Secondly, docking. This par of your guide is only half-true. Yes, it is harder to catch you when you warp in from unkown locations, but that is not the point.
The point is, NEVER warp to 0 at a station. No matter what direction you come from. The warp-in spots on some stations are severely screwed up, leading you to come out several km from the docking spots in some cases.
Instead, create a docking BM that will always land you at the station so that you can dock instantly. Using such a BM makes it irrelevant from which direction you are coming (except for 0.0 with bubbles). Before any attacker can lock you you are already in the docking procedure and invulnerable.
Thanks a lot for the feedback, Stacy. You're right, I'll add the period of invulnerability to the guide.
As for the docking, I learned something new. I'll test it tonight, and add some info on that as well.
I remember having to approach a station to dock after warping to 0, but I assumed it was because of the warp not being that precise. For instance, it happened more often with larger ships than small ones, and it did not happen every time. Then again it hs been some time since I had a station like that, so I'll take your word for it.
Lone wolf and nomad extraordinaire. eve.aeonoftime.com
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AeonOfTime
Syrkos Technologies Joint Venture Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.06.12 12:10:55 -
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Stacy Lone wrote:AeonOfTime wrote: I remember having to approach a station to dock after warping to 0, but I assumed it was because of the warp not being that precise. For instance, it happened more often with larger ships than small ones, and it did not happen every time. Then again it hs been some time since I had a station like that, so I'll take your word for it.
Yes, that is part of the problem. A proper docking BM however is closer to the station then the spot that is used for the warp to zero, and will allow you to instanly dock in any ship (even freighters). This technique is also used to create cyno spots so that you can cyno to it and dock up. getting such a BM right can be a pain in the ass, though, and is definitely more difficult then creating insta-undocks.
Okay, so basically you just approach the station as close as you can? That would best be done with a small ship like a frigate then, I can remember flying through and around stations in my burst when I started playing.
Lone wolf and nomad extraordinaire. eve.aeonoftime.com
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AeonOfTime
Syrkos Technologies Joint Venture Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.06.12 12:18:30 -
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Stacy Lone wrote:I mostly warp to zero, then approach the station, then wait a few seconds after the distance goes to 0, then create the BM. Then I undock and verify that it works as expected by warping to it several times.
Okay, thanks a bundle - I'll try that tonight and add it to the guide :)
I already added the invulnerability bit.
Lone wolf and nomad extraordinaire. eve.aeonoftime.com
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AeonOfTime
Syrkos Technologies Joint Venture Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.06.13 16:07:04 -
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Thanks a bundle for all the great feedback folks, I updated the guide and rewrote the docking bookmarks section entirely.
Lone wolf and nomad extraordinaire. eve.aeonoftime.com
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