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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2015.06.15 18:34:14 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Use wine
The Cider wrapper IS wine. Thats why CCP has other options. There are alot of versions of Wine out there.
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
1896
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Posted - 2015.06.15 18:36:13 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Although its true that Macs have 10% of the market, it can be clearly seen, from most of the replies in this thread, that it is the top 10%.
Also, my Mac uses an NVIDIA card.
Also, there are many ways to get Eve on a Mac. If needed, CCP will swap to some other method.
Also, there is nothing in that article to suggest that Cider will stop supporting all Macs. Why would they take a small market and make it smaller?
How did you get to the idea they were the top 10% when they seem to have such a damn hard time using bootcamp? |
Cynadore
3 R Corporation
The Irukandji.
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Posted - 2015.06.15 18:40:35 -
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TheresCoffeeInThatNebula wrote:I have a Mac. Macs suck at gaming, yes. But for productivity, nothing beats them. I have yet to see a version of windows that LOOKS LIKE NOONE PUKED ON IT. And that's why I use Macs. o7
Because productivity is all about looking like no one puked on you. |
Dersen Lowery
Defy.
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Posted - 2015.06.15 18:45:19 -
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This thread wasted no time going to ****.
Frostys Virpio wrote:How did you get to the idea they were the top 10% when they seem to have such a damn hard time using bootcamp?
Where do people get the idea that using Bootcamp is automatically such a great solution? Paying for Windows and jumping through all of MS' hoops to make sure it's totally kosher with them so that you can reboot your machine every time you want to play a game--and hold down a key to select the operating system that you prefer to use--is, to borrow a British term, pants.
If I wanted Windows I'd have a PC.
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
1126
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Posted - 2015.06.15 18:58:15 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Use wine The Cider wrapper IS wine. Thats why CCP has other options. There are alot of versions of Wine out there.
Cider is such an old fork it's silly to call them the same. There was once a Linux Client based on this transgaming crap and no one used it because even back then (~2007) wine produced the better results. So yes, there are some options for CCP, but to use a fork which is not contributing upstream and does not profit from the other companies working on the same code base is probably the worst of them.
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
1001
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Posted - 2015.06.15 20:03:57 -
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Soldarius wrote:ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Mag's wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:I feel for you MAC guys, I've been in the same boat. I'm still smarting over the fact that I bought all those BetaMax tapes and got tired of all the "get VHS" hippes that didn't know good quality when they saw it! We bought the Phillips system, I think it was called Video 2000. Two sided tapes and they released one that could record 8 hours just in time for the Royal wedding. I think that's why we bought it. I have silly parents. I STILL have laserdiscs sitting in my bedroom. Ooooo man. You so young. I still own vinyl LPs and cassette tapes. And I have working equipment for both.
This. My Linn turntable is still doing its job. Though I'm old enough by now to not hear much of a difference anymore when comparing it to my old denon 2560 cd player  .
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Lulu Lunette
Custodes Olim
United Systems of Aridia
32
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Posted - 2015.06.15 20:31:42 -
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The best part about Mac is being able to drag that Windows to trash when you're done with it 
Disclaimer: I play games on my PC.. so yeah.
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Snagletooth Johnson
Snagle Material Services
CAStabouts
252
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Posted - 2015.06.15 20:43:59 -
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Well, we'll see how many dedicated Windows/ PC lovers start to change their tune when Win10 starts deleting game files because they didnt work well with an update.
Win10 is designed to kill the PC, not improve it.
anyone got a link for Linux handy? |
Milos T'averner
Com-Mine Industries
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Posted - 2015.06.15 20:54:37 -
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Mara Pahrdi wrote:This. My Linn turntable is still doing its job. Though I'm old enough by now to not hear much of a difference anymore when comparing it to my old denon 2560 cd player .
Ooooh - nice. LP12 or Axis? |
Paul AtreidesMuad
Coreli Corporation
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2015.06.15 21:47:44 -
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TheresCoffeeInThatNebula wrote:I have a Mac. Macs suck at gaming, yes. But for productivity, nothing beats them. I have yet to see a version of windows that LOOKS LIKE NOONE PUKED ON IT. And that's why I use Macs. o7
That's why I use arch and lol at everyone in this thread. |
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Love Squad
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2015.06.15 21:56:27 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Use wine
They're already wine-ing, don't encourage more of it.
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45thtiger 0109
AL3XAND3R.
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Posted - 2015.06.16 01:55:55 -
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Dradis Aulmais wrote:lol, buy a pc
Macs are not ment for gamming. Never have been. Dont care what PR firms has to say. Macs are more on the design and productivity end.
Wait till windows 10 comes out then there will be a big PC sale and you can get a PC like the rest of the world you hippy.
+1 Agreed
Death to the Macs 
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and the bad with the good.
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45thtiger 0109
AL3XAND3R.
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Posted - 2015.06.16 02:08:52 -
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Snagletooth Johnson wrote:Well, we'll see how many dedicated Windows/ PC lovers start to change their tune when Win10 starts deleting game files because they didnt work well with an update.
Win10 is designed to kill the PC, not improve it.
anyone got a link for Linux handy?
You know that the Game Developers will have to make their game compatible with windows 10
And I hope CCP does have a fix for Windows 10 when it comes out on the 29/07/2015
So to CCP hop to it and get the hamsters working on that code to fix it for Windows 10 
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Kira Jonsdottir
Jameco Industries
The Big Dirty
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Posted - 2015.06.16 05:39:37 -
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Snagletooth Johnson wrote:Well, we'll see how many dedicated Windows/ PC lovers start to change their tune when Win10 starts deleting game files because they didnt work well with an update.
Win10 is designed to kill the PC, not improve it.
anyone got a link for Linux handy?
Upgrading to win 10 is purely optional, it is not an automatic update, and you have to opt in to get it and then it will download when it is released and you will get a notification that it is ready to install and you can do this at a time that is convenient for you.
So if you are in any way concerned with win 10 then wait a couple of days and keep an eye on tech forums and watch for people having problems you are not prepared to deal with and if this is true wait a month or two after it is released so that they can fix it. |
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
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Posted - 2015.06.16 06:00:47 -
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I wouldn't have a Mac owner as a friend. |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
1137
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Posted - 2015.06.16 06:18:09 -
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Snagletooth Johnson wrote:Well, we'll see how many dedicated Windows/ PC lovers start to change their tune when Win10 starts deleting game files because they didnt work well with an update.
Win10 is designed to kill the PC, not improve it.
anyone got a link for Linux handy?
http://store.steampowered.com/steamos
Steam OS is simply an optimized Debian Linux for gaming with steam preinstalled.
If you use your machine for work I would recomend Ubuntu or Debian.
If you are not afraid of computers and want full controll over your stuff try Arch or Gentoo.
You can play games on all of them, they all use the same software, just the tools to manage the system some pilosophies and and how it is built together is different.
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Sibyyl
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.06.16 06:20:58 -
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Quite so terrible it is skimming the forum when I am tired. I only picked up the first six words of the topic. 
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Caviar Liberta
Moira.
Villore Accords
877
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Posted - 2015.06.16 06:37:36 -
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Dark Opaque Theme wrote:Please show some maturity by not starting a pointless platform war or reply with "lol, buy a pc". Any input from CCP on this? Even if Cider keeps working for the coming month's, me and my AMD card are going to be even more punished now like the 2 year medium shader clamp? http://www.anandtech.com/show/9375/nvidia-acquires-game-porting-group-tech-from-transgaming
Even if Cider keeps working for the coming month's, me and my AMD card are going to be even more punished now like the 2 year medium shader clamp? (And yes I know I'm currently on my way out but was planning on coming back some day)
I think I found your biggest problem. I bolded it, underlined it and italicized it. |
Caviar Liberta
Moira.
Villore Accords
877
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Posted - 2015.06.16 06:41:14 -
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The Slayer wrote:Can't you use bootcamp to boot into Windows and play from there? I thought that was a thing most Mac users did nowadays.
Next you will be complaining about the lack of Linux support.
Where is my HP-UX support. |
Caviar Liberta
Moira.
Villore Accords
877
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Posted - 2015.06.16 06:50:09 -
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Snagletooth Johnson wrote:Well, we'll see how many dedicated Windows/ PC lovers start to change their tune when Win10 starts deleting game files because they didnt work well with an update.
Win10 is designed to kill the PC, not improve it.
anyone got a link for Linux handy?
Yep I have my windows restore flash drive ready. Getting windows 10 for free from MS and making a system image file back up daily. WIndows 10 goes **** up then I'll just roll back to windows 7. |
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Shuckstar
Tax Haters Evaders Corp
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Posted - 2015.06.16 06:54:50 -
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Harrison Tato wrote:I wouldn't have a Mac owner as a friend.
lol
CCP Greyscale wrote:"OK, I've read every post up to page 200, and we're getting to a point in this thread where there's not a lot of new concerns or suggestions being brought up. There will be future threads (and future blogs) as we tune details, but for now I want to thank you for all of your constructive input, and wish you a good weekend :)"
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Caviar Liberta
Moira.
Villore Accords
877
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Posted - 2015.06.16 06:56:22 -
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Harrison Tato wrote:I wouldn't have a Mac owner as a friend.
Jumps in the way back machine. Back in the early to mid 80's as a C64 lover back then I wouldn't have had a PC owner as a friend.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6306
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Posted - 2015.06.16 07:12:20 -
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Soldarius wrote:You so young. I still own vinyl LPs and cassette tapes. And I have working equipment for both. I love my vinyl. Never not vinyl.
TheresCoffeeInThatNebula wrote:I have a Mac. Macs suck at gaming, yes. But for productivity, nothing beats them. I have yet to see a version of windows that LOOKS LIKE NOONE PUKED ON IT. And that's why I use Macs. o7 You understand that windows isn't the only PC OS, right? And that a mac is just a PC with a heavily marked up prices and a skinned version of unix on it, right?
Snagletooth Johnson wrote:Well, we'll see how many dedicated Windows/ PC lovers start to change their tune when Win10 starts deleting game files because they didnt work well with an update.
Win10 is designed to kill the PC, not improve it.
anyone got a link for Linux handy? Every time microsoft release a new version of windows there's cries of how terribly evil it's going to be, and every time it's just an OS.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
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Posted - 2015.06.16 10:02:37 -
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I got a PC and a Mac, Windows is trash compared to OSX... everybody telling you the opposite simply can not afford a mac or never used one... it's good only 10% have it, not everybody is driving a Jaguar either
it depends what customers you want as a company, without question you would prefer mac users...
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Pew Terror
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.16 10:42:46 -
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You think you have it bad.... Try playing EvE on my Atari... |
blue coeur
Anomalous Existence
Low-Class
25
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Posted - 2015.06.16 17:05:50 -
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Up till recently I only owned Mac's because I'm a professional but still enjoyed playing EVE to escape this crazy world. At some point you just get used to the constant crashes, locks, and random quirkiness. Not too mention it was basically a requirement to run EVE on the lowest settings to have the best reliability with Cider.
Worst experience ever!
But then I built a Hackintosh and now have the luxury of booting into Windows when I want to play EVE.
The argument to "just buy a PC" is invalid when a game markets itself as being compatible with "OSX and Windows". Why should mac owners be punished for trying to play a game that markets itself as being compatible?
It's like if EVE only ran well the latest version of Windows but you prefer to run Windows 7. "Just upgrade Windows" they would say but out of principle you would say "No, it should work with Windows 7 because they say it does".
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Luna Arindale
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
87
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Posted - 2015.06.16 17:22:53 -
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I have no idea what this is even about. As someone who plays eve on an iMac, and has had no issues running it... I don't get what is even happening in this thread. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2015.06.16 18:17:44 -
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Luna Arindale wrote:I have no idea what this is even about. As someone who plays eve on an iMac, and has had no issues running it... I don't get what is even happening in this thread.
Although it has flip-flopped a lot over time, Apple has had a tendency to prefer AMD GPUs to nVidia ones. Now nVidia as acquired the company that produces the wrapper software that CCP uses to distribute EVE on OSX.
The OP is afraid that this will mean that the wrapper's support for advanced graphics features will start to suffer, at least as long as you run on AMD hardware.
The rest is just teenagers (or adults re-enacting their teenage years) ignorantly engaging in console wars.
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ashley Eoner
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Posted - 2015.06.16 20:37:24 -
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Tippia wrote:The rest is just teenagers (or adults re-enacting their teenage years) ignorantly engaging in console wars.
It's even less then that as both platforms use the exact same hardware. It's an OS war at this point.
The RISC architecture is a superior design but that was the only part that was superior about macs. The OS was a modified version of BSD and the rest of the components used have always been cheap.
A simple solution is to use bootcamp and just boot into windows when you want to play eve or any other game. |
Hippinse
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
77
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Posted - 2015.06.16 21:00:59 -
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Caviar Liberta wrote:The Slayer wrote:Can't you use bootcamp to boot into Windows and play from there? I thought that was a thing most Mac users did nowadays.
Next you will be complaining about the lack of Linux support. Where is my HP-UX support.
Oh, SURE, give support to the fat-cats of the printer ink cartel whilst ignoring those of us in the freedom-loving, security-minded OpenBSD crowd (well, it's not really big enough to be a crowd). I'm certain you corporate lackeys won't support my chosen OS (should I ever get it to recognize my DVD drive and/or NIC so that I can finally successfully install, that is). |
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