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greeny knight
Amarr
Solar Storm
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Posted - 2006.11.23 09:54:00 -
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ok pos wars are horrible 3 enemy posses in our home configured as deathstars and lagstars , shield full of ships cargoholds ful of useless bpc when they can't build something , ok now my suggestions to get rid of the lagg .
you make game mechanics so that every unpiloted ship get trown out of the bubble when its unpiloted for 10 min , now visiting "friends"you ask , make a hotel ship maintenance aray that you can anchor in the bubble where you can set a standing on so you can let frendlies dock and a hotel fitting array for that .
now why for the 10 min delay on the ships ejected from the pos shields you ask , its just to please the carrier and the mothership pilots so they can eject more cannonfodder 
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fire 59
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.23 10:06:00 -
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If they are designed you lag your guys up, petition it and a gm will investigate and hopefully sort the mess out for you.
How exactly did you come to earn the space your currently inhabit?
BoB lite let them keep it when they surrendered to us and stabbed Xetic between the shoulderblades.
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Miss Overlord
Gallente
Ferrum Pugnus
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.23 10:13:00 -
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i have a better idea lets remove POSes ff the NPC market altogehter and shift to a BPO situation where u build POSes then deploy and they are fueled by the normal ice and NPC products we find now
Make the production costs about the same as NPC purchase in mineral cost terms. Might give greater imperitious to the industrial side of the game as it is now its buy deploy and PVP youre guts out nothing wrong with that but for a player building economy POS being made by players is a better idea
These posts represent my personal views and not those of my corp or alliance. These do not reflect offical alliance or corp views
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Hermia
HIVE
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Posted - 2006.11.23 10:32:00 -
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Edited by: Hermia on 23/11/2006 10:33:31
 Originally by: Miss Overlord
i have a better idea lets remove POSes ff the NPC market altogehter and shift to a BPO situation where u build POSes then deploy and they are fueled by the normal ice and NPC products we find now
POS's serve as a great isk sink, curbing inflation, they should stay this way.
I believe the answer lies outside the POS war debate. We are essentially always talking about territorial warfare, POS's are the mechanisium for conducting these wars but maybe they shouldn't be. Explaining different schemes is a big undertaking, i personally think the mechanisium should be planet control. The full picture will take many many words, im hopeing someone will open this properly so we all can cross examine and discuss. So far nothing too elaborate on planetry control has happened, but its the way forward.
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Omeega
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.11.23 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: greeny knight
ok pos wars are horrible 3 enemy posses in our home configured as deathstars and lagstars , shield full of ships cargoholds ful of useless bpc when they can't build something , ok now my suggestions to get rid of the lagg .
you make game mechanics so that every unpiloted ship get trown out of the bubble when its unpiloted for 10 min , now visiting "friends"you ask , make a hotel ship maintenance aray that you can anchor in the bubble where you can set a standing on so you can let frendlies dock and a hotel fitting array for that .
now why for the 10 min delay on the ships ejected from the pos shields you ask , its just to please the carrier and the mothership pilots so they can eject more cannonfodder
How to remove our three POS?
Come, fight and bring it.
And stop trying to pityfully find excuses for your demise.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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IntegralHellsing
Gallente
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2006.11.23 10:42:00 -
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Edited by: IntegralHellsing on 23/11/2006 10:42:49
lol, i was wondering who else would put lots of ships and bpc into their pos. it was... AAA!
btw, maybe you should turn every effect and sound off to reduce lag.
basically trying to load **** loads make you lag, but if you reduce the stuff that's loaded, you can reduce lag as well
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greeny knight
Amarr
Solar Storm
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Posted - 2006.11.23 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: IntegralHellsing
Edited by: IntegralHellsing on 23/11/2006 10:42:49
lol, i was wondering who else would put lots of ships and bpc into their pos. it was... AAA!
btw, maybe you should turn every effect and sound off to reduce lag.
basically trying to load **** loads make you lag, but if you reduce the stuff that's loaded, you can reduce lag as well
done that all effects off gun effects off , sound effects off ,when i'm in a cov op ship scouting the posses,it takes a full minute to load the grid and then i'm on my own, so can you immaging a fleet showing up at the pos , death by lagg ,instead of a good fight
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IntegralHellsing
Gallente
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2006.11.23 11:12:00 -
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that's strange.
normally, with max zoom out, lowest graphic quality, sound setting off, not loading hostile/friendly icons, overview configuration, etc etc reduces load time that you can start controlling in about 20~30 sec.
anyone know what the problem might be?
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unknown fenomena
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Posted - 2006.11.23 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega
Originally by: greeny knight
ok pos wars are horrible 3 enemy posses in our home configured as deathstars and lagstars , shield full of ships cargoholds ful of useless bpc when they can't build something , ok now my suggestions to get rid of the lagg .
you make game mechanics so that every unpiloted ship get trown out of the bubble when its unpiloted for 10 min , now visiting "friends"you ask , make a hotel ship maintenance aray that you can anchor in the bubble where you can set a standing on so you can let frendlies dock and a hotel fitting array for that .
now why for the 10 min delay on the ships ejected from the pos shields you ask , its just to please the carrier and the mothership pilots so they can eject more cannonfodder
How to remove our three POS?
Come, fight and bring it.
And stop trying to pityfully find excuses for your demise.
it whas a post about suggestions to make the game playable again when posses are deployed untill you showed up, for your info i play the game to have fun even that means i got blown up not to exploit game mechanics or to experience 5 nodecrashes because of *********** that try and ruin my game by questiable taktics , "to reply on that bob guy " and yes i came out of xetic there i learned to grow some hair on my theet and fight back instead of carebearing, i always have some respect to guys who kill me or that i kill not to guys that get out of a gate camp by logging off logging on logging off its a volf in sheepcloths
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greeny knight
Amarr
Solar Storm
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Posted - 2006.11.23 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega
Originally by: greeny knight
ok pos wars are horrible 3 enemy posses in our home configured as deathstars and lagstars , shield full of ships cargoholds ful of useless bpc when they can't build something , ok now my suggestions to get rid of the lagg .
you make game mechanics so that every unpiloted ship get trown out of the bubble when its unpiloted for 10 min , now visiting "friends"you ask , make a hotel ship maintenance aray that you can anchor in the bubble where you can set a standing on so you can let frendlies dock and a hotel fitting array for that .
now why for the 10 min delay on the ships ejected from the pos shields you ask , its just to please the carrier and the mothership pilots so they can eject more cannonfodder
How to remove our three POS?
Come, fight and bring it.
And stop trying to pityfully find excuses for your demise.
it whas a post about suggestions to make the game playable again when posses are deployed untill you showed up, for your info i play the game to have fun even that means i got blown up not to exploit game mechanics or to experience 5 nodecrashes because of *********** that try and ruin my game by questiable taktics , "to reply on that bob guy " and yes i came out of xetic there i learned to grow some hair on my theet and fight back instead of carebearing, i always have some respect to guys who kill me or that i kill not to guys that get out of a gate camp by logging off logging on logging off its a volf in sheepcloths
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WhiteSnake
Generals Of Destruction Syndicate
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.23 11:32:00 -
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well since you are in a covert, take a screenshot, upolad it to eve files, post the link here.
Personally I know how AAA poses looks like
waste of time to make them admit their lagstars
AAA are skilled pilots, flying t2 fitted ships, not afraid to engage, but they are using every game mechanic they can (lagstars, loggofski etc) in order to win, they dont care about game experience, eve for them is a rl income (at least for many of them).
They only thing that ccp can do, is what he did with the orientals, make a russian server and let them farm plexes to make their living. Who ever fought AAA knows that, its their gamestyle you just cant do anything about that.
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Loka
Gallente
adeptus gattacus
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.23 12:11:00 -
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2006.11.21 21:14
Victim: XXXXXX
Alliance: United Legion
Corp: Custodian's of murder mystery
Destroyed: Omen
System: xxxxx
Security: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Loka (laid the final blow)
Security: 3.5
Alliance: Lotka Volterra
Corp: adeptus gattacus
Ship: Megathron
Weapon: Neutron Blaster Cannon II
Destroyed items:
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**** Truncated - mail is too large ****
220 more BM where in the can, it took me 5 min to open the can.
I know exactly what you mean. Well you aint the only one expirience such exploits. Idiots are everywhere. Its up to us to remove them from EVE.
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Evelyn Exe
eXceed Inc.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.23 13:18:00 -
[13]
All that there needs to be is an allowed option to turn your overview into the stripped down version which I know a number of people used to use (and which I understand is a bannable offence as it involves messing with the client).
If you could remove all the graphical niceties and effectively play on a bare bones, wireframe, stripped down version of the game in circumsntaces where lag is likely to be a major factor then yes it would remove the beauty of the game but at least you would be able to play it.
Not sure what this would do for node crashes though.
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cordy
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.23 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: greeny knight
ok pos wars are horrible 3 enemy posses in our home configured as deathstars and lagstars , shield full of ships cargoholds ful of useless bpc when they can't build something , ok now my suggestions to get rid of the lagg .
you make game mechanics so that every unpiloted ship get trown out of the bubble when its unpiloted for 10 min , now visiting "friends"you ask , make a hotel ship maintenance aray that you can anchor in the bubble where you can set a standing on so you can let frendlies dock and a hotel fitting array for that .
now why for the 10 min delay on the ships ejected from the pos shields you ask , its just to please the carrier and the mothership pilots so they can eject more cannonfodder
/me huggles her brother
Why did God create men before women? There's always a rough draft before the masterpiece
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Irrilian
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2006.11.23 15:18:00 -
[15]
Originally by: Evelyn Exe
All that there needs to be is an allowed option to turn your overview into the stripped down version which I know a number of people used to use (and which I understand is a bannable offence as it involves messing with the client).
Customizing the overview display is pretty fundamental, perhaps Ive got the wrong end of the stick about what you mean.
How I typically set up a basic PVP overview:
Right click on the right pointing arrow head next to the text Overview.
Select "Open Overview settings"
Click on the tab "Filters"
Click on the subtab "Types"
Click on the button "Deselect all"
Expand the "Ship" type section by left clicking upon it.
Check each of the ship types
Expand the "Celestial" type section by left clicking upon it.
Check the "Beacon" type
Expand the "Deployable" type section by left clicking upon it.
Check the "Mobile Warp Disruptor" type
Expand the "Celestial" type section by left clicking upon it.
Check the "Beacon" type
Expand the "Structure" type section by left clicking upon it.
Check the "Control Tower" type
Click on the subtab "States"
Uncheck the state "Pilot is in your gang"
Click upon the "Appearance" tab
[optional]
Click upon the "Background" subtab
Uncheck all the checkboxes, background colours (especially blinking) have a tendency to get detatched from their appropriate ship and mark an incorrect one
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Click on the "Colortag" subtab
Use the move up/down buttons to ensure that the order of the tags is "Pilot is at war with you", "Pilot has horrible standings", "Pilot has bad standings", "Pilot is in your gang" (not that it will show), "Pilot is in your corp", ""Pilot is in your alliance", "Pilot has high standings", "Pilot has good standings"
Ensure that the others are unchecked.
Click upon the "Columns" tab
Ensure that the following are checked "Icon" "Distance" "Velocity" "Name".
Click upon the "Ships" tab
Check the box "( Ship type )"
Click upon the "Filters" tab
Right click upon the right pointing arrowhead beneath Presets.
Select the menu option "Save current type selection as..."
Enter PVP and press ok.
Close the overview settings window.
If there is a lot a traffic, regularly refresh your overview by clicking somewhere outside of a text input box and pressing tab twice.
You can play around with other type settings for other situations, e.g. a cloaked setting that displays corpses, cans etc; an extra preset that includes fighters and other irksome drones should you be facing carriers etc; even a mining preset that just displays the roids you're after and leaves the rest of the overview uncluttered should a hostile warp in.
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Cuebick
Caldari
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.11.23 15:26:00 -
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We're not trying to lag anything with stacking ships on poses nor are filling them up with bpc's, the ships on the pos are for replacement and nothing else. Stop being so childish.
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Evelyn Exe
eXceed Inc.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.23 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Irrilian
useful post
Yes, what I am talking about goes beyond this, it basically strips out pretty much all of the graphics from the game so all you are really left with is an overview and something that tells you when mods are activated.
People were banned for doing this but I think what is needed is an option endorsed by CCP that allows you to do this so that lagfest battles (if ugly) are at least playable.
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Crucifier
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.11.23 16:28:00 -
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This just shows how brainwashed you are, how can you know if the ships on the pos have bpc's in them? tell me?
And do you call having t2 fitted battleships and hacs "lag ships" ffs 
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unknown fenomena
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Posted - 2006.11.23 21:25:00 -
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Edited by: unknown fenomena on 23/11/2006 21:30:14
Edited by: unknown fenomena on 23/11/2006 21:27:03
Originally by: Crucifier
This just shows how brainwashed you are, how can you know if the ships on the pos have bpc's in them? tell me?
And do you call having t2 fitted battleships and hacs "lag ships" ffs
its so funny without naming corp,an alliance the guilty always denies the strongest , if you care to read what i initialy posted. its only to make the game playable again when pos are involved , so you don't like the hotel ship array , just say so, now grab your so called replacement ships and get out of my homesystem
o btw if they are replacement ships why are they not in one of the 2 ship maintenance arrays you anchored , let me give you a clue , when they in the ship array they don't lagg us anymore and you don't had any posses anymore to hide
**** this is not an altpost its still greeny knight but forum sets fenomena as default sorry about that
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Shiraz Merlot
Octavian Vanguard
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.23 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: unknown fenomena
its so funny without naming corp,an alliance the guilty always denies the strongest
This argument is pathetic. If you accuse someone of something, you can't submit their denial as evidence. That kind of justice went away when we stopped drowning witches.
In the meantime, note that replacement ships are always left lying around in the bubble, because maintenance arrays cause a queue (and have standings issues).
I can tell as a result that you're a POS warfare n00b, so I suggest you shut up and think before pointing the finger next time.
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Vily
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.23 21:51:00 -
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When it comes down to it AAA defends it. because they are the ones always getting slandered.
The alliances attack them demonize them by calling them cheaters and exploiters to try to further motivate their players to hate and be motivated to fight their opponents.
The reds/AAA i dont doubt have POS's full of ships. You know why? because as the system currently works, its the easiest way to allow for easy replacement of combat ships. an unfortunate side-note is that it creates lag.
I'm not saying the system works well, but nobody as of yet has provided me with anything that i think fits as an alternative.
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Evil Thug
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.11.23 22:43:00 -
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Petition it. But if GMs won`t find bpc`s and bm`s in replacement ships - will we see official excuse from AXE ? Accusing - easy, bringing proof - much harder. Stop reading alliance propaganda like "we killed ALOT of aAa ships, with no losses (40 battleship lost and 10 killed - means no losses), and get reality pill. You are losing because we are better than you.
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Irrilian
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2006.11.23 23:00:00 -
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If you're having problems loading a POS have you considered warping to a covert ops as far as possible from the POS, at the edge of its grid far out of range of the POS guns, letting the POS load for everyone, then warping to another covert ops positioned where you want to fight?
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Steel Rat
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.23 23:49:00 -
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Originally by: Evil Thug
Petition it. But if GMs won`t find bpc`s and bm`s in replacement ships - will we see official excuse from AXE ? Accusing - easy, bringing proof - much harder. Stop reading alliance propaganda like "we killed ALOT of aAa ships, with no losses (40 battleship lost and 10 killed - means no losses), and get reality pill. You are losing because we are better than you.
Lets get some facts straight here:
1. You accuse Axe of not engaging. False. We are usually the instigators of almost every engagement. We are the ones attacking POSs. You are the ones that hide at your POSs or logged off waiting for Axe to put dreads on your POSs so you can log in on them.
2. Its always easier to defend a POS than attack when the 2 forces are pretty close to equal numbers. Lets get real here folks. If you got 30-40 snipers, 5-10 POS guns, which almost NEVER miss fighting 30-40 snipers and 10 dreads. Dreads don't get almost insta lock on any ship, POS does. Dreads don't hit frigs very often. POS does. Fighters don't hit Large towers, fighters hit dreads. In a close fight, the fight will usually go to the defender at a POS. Maybe thats why you don't come after our POSs in 68ft? If you want a fight so **** bad, why don't you force an engagement for a change?
AXE has killed 1 of your POSs. AXE has put ALL your POSs into reinforced multiple times. What have you done? Oh ya, loginski on our dreads, hide in POSs and wait for us to attack, attack offlined POSs in another system and got 3 out of 20, good job there. So for all your chest beating, you haven't done jack but sit and wait. Yet you come on these forums acting all superior yet we are the ones constantly pushing the fight. You complain when we don't engage, you brag when we do and you get a few kills because we are tired of waiting for you, even when its not in our favor.
All that said, this is a tough war. No delusions here that AAA are nubs and can't fight. We have some very good fights with them. Sometimes we go in when we shouldn't. Sometimes we get outplayed. Sometimes we make sacrifices to get a job done, like when we took out the POS in 68ft. Axe have some veteran PvPers, but alot of our players are newer, they make mistakes, they aren't flying fully fitted T2 ships and yet they are still enaging and fighting every day when we see situations that might be in our favor. The only Axe propoganda is to continue to fight and learn from our mistakes. Everyday you stay in Impass is a day Axe learns how to fight better. I couldn't pay enough isk for the experience you are providing my members. So what has AAA done again in terms of conquest? Killed 3(offline) of 150+ POSs, and Axe has killed 1(online) of 4.
Yes, most of your players are better, higher skill point pilots than Axe but if you think you have us beaten then you need to take the reality pill. Because for all your superiority, all our station systems still say AXIOM EMPIRE in the upper left hand corner.
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Chip2k3
Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.23 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: Steel Rat
Because for all your superiority, all our station systems still say AXIOM EMPIRE in the upper left hand corner.
Pwned.
Originally by: Steel Rat
Because for all your superiority, all our station systems still say AXIOM EMPIRE in the upper left hand co |
baaaaal
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Posted - 2006.11.24 00:04:00 -
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Quote:
you make game mechanics so that every unpiloted ship get trown out of the bubble
apears to be this way on the test server , i was messing around with a pos and had a carrier + 2 indies inside the bubble , the next day when i logged back on again they were around 40km from my pos
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IntegralHellsing
Gallente
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2006.11.24 00:06:00 -
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does that mean i can fly to AAA pos, hijack the ships and let them blow up? sAweeeeeet!
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Omeega
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.11.24 06:15:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Chip2k3
Originally by: Steel Rat
Because for all your superiority, all our station systems still say AXIOM EMPIRE in the upper left hand corner.
Pwned.
Where are our capital ships?
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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l3VGV
Rage and Terror
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Posted - 2006.11.24 08:41:00 -
[29]
Edited by: l3VGV on 24/11/2006 08:49:02
remove that sov sh1t from tha game. then we will take all axi stations in 3 hours and they will be happy to live in empire space again.  n00bs. we will be ther an continue to kill ur ships until u due. then we will claim that system and go agil again. we dont need that stupid stations, all we need is to kill u all. muhaha. and we did it good now.
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greeny knight
Amarr
Solar Storm
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Posted - 2006.11.24 08:54:00 -
[30]
Edited by: greeny knight on 24/11/2006 08:55:46
Originally by: Evil Thug
Petition it. But if GMs won`t find bpc`s and bm`s in replacement ships - will we see official excuse from AXE ? Accusing - easy, bringing proof - much harder. Stop reading alliance propaganda like "we killed ALOT of aAa ships, with no losses (40 battleship lost and 10 killed - means no losses), and get reality pill. You are losing because we are better than you.
mm how a sugestion to reduce pos-lag and node deaths turns into a yes-no game ,
evil if you see my first post , there is no mentioning of aaa , or a corp , what steel said is tru ,and yes i have a own oppinion , lost yesterday 2 ships to figure out to tackle a vagabond (losses posted)
do i have prove yep , pictures from your posses , like i'm inside it (don't post them to keep my possition secret) , posted on internal bords ,screen whas not big enough to list all , mm o btw if you are a killbord jocky just view details on a kill we had , petitioning to gm , look i play this game to have fun , this is the first post on eve-o in 2.5 year i play eve , i whas there wit double mwd ravens , station pingpong ,the first posses and there faults the rise and fall from xetic , if i petition every thing i saw is wrong ,spoling my game well the gm having a blocked me long time ago so i let others petitioning , prob this going to be my last post on eve-o , i whill see your minions on the field , killing them and get killed o its always with a  and without a grudge because its a game
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