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Leon Mantis
Limul Tribal
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Posted - 2015.06.19 16:16:08 -
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What is This supposed to be?
Front & Back
It says it is the new design for the Thrasher... but.... really?
My opinion, It is ugly... very ugly
It doesn't even look like a ship made for battle... and totally not worthy of being the new thrasher
Here is a picture of some more earlier designs of the trasher, to my surprise they are all ugly... Choosing the "best" out of all ugly designs is a very bad choice
Thrasher looks good how it is... so i don't understand why ccp has chosen this new design...
Post what you think about this new thrasher....!
Really hoping ccp will throw away this design and come up with a better new Thrasher.
Disappointed.
(edit: Thrasher... not Trasher |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6311
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Posted - 2015.06.19 16:17:54 -
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Don't panic, that's not the Trasher.
It's the Thrasher.
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Pixie Tickle
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
50
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Posted - 2015.06.19 16:18:03 -
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Trajan Unknown
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
54
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Posted - 2015.06.19 16:22:07 -
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Well it is WIP and like every kind of art or design the likes&dislikes are pretty much individual taste.
I personally have no grudge against the new Thrasher but it-¦s WIP so who knows how it will look in its finalised form?
The old Thrasher on the other hand has it-¦s charm but I am open for changes. That aside why people pre judge everything so fast? Give some constructive feedback, point out improvements you would make and influence the WIP or else just rant and get the thread closed. |
Zimmy Zeta
Lisa Needs Braces.
57787
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Posted - 2015.06.19 16:22:56 -
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Oh, shiny.
I actually like that new design. 
I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it.
Yes, I do feel bad about it.
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Black Panpher
Middle-aged pony tail
4337
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Posted - 2015.06.19 16:31:36 -
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I like the current Thrasher thanks CCP. |
Leon Mantis
Limul Tribal
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Posted - 2015.06.19 16:36:36 -
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Trajan Unknown wrote:Well it is WIP and like every kind of art or design the likes&dislikes are pretty much individual taste.
I personally have no grudge against the new Thrasher but it-¦s WIP so who knows how it will look in its finalised form?
The old Thrasher on the other hand has it-¦s charm but I am open for changes. That aside why people pre judge everything so fast? Give some constructive feedback, point out improvements you would make and influence the WIP or else just rant and get the thread closed.
You make a good point that new things should not be judged to fast, However This Devblog makes me think it is actually a design that has been worked on for at least a little while. And even if it is still a WIP, i actually think its good to know what people think early on so that it can be changed (if Needed) early on aswell.
My feedback? its ugly and not worthy of being the new thrasher..
Points of inprovements... Don't do a totally new design for the thrasher, Keep it oldskool (like ccp did with the Caracal) |
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1663
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Posted - 2015.06.19 16:40:16 -
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I'd prefer to see it bear at least some resemblance to the old one. 
Who put the goat in there?
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Commissar Kate
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
404567
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Posted - 2015.06.19 16:41:14 -
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Thrasher looked fine to me before but whatever.
BTW these WIP art things don't often change much.
-k8
My Fanclub
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Zimmy Zeta
Lisa Needs Braces.
57789
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Posted - 2015.06.19 16:42:06 -
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Leon Mantis wrote:Trajan Unknown wrote:Well it is WIP and like every kind of art or design the likes&dislikes are pretty much individual taste.
I personally have no grudge against the new Thrasher but it-¦s WIP so who knows how it will look in its finalised form?
The old Thrasher on the other hand has it-¦s charm but I am open for changes. That aside why people pre judge everything so fast? Give some constructive feedback, point out improvements you would make and influence the WIP or else just rant and get the thread closed. You make a good point that new things should not be judged to fast, However This Devblog makes me think it is actually a design that has been worked on for at least a little while. And even if it is still a WIP, i actually think its good to know what people think early on so that it can be changed (if Needed) early on aswell. My feedback? its ugly and not worthy of being the new thrasher.. Points of inprovements... Don't do a totally new design for the thrasher, Keep it oldskool (like ccp did with the Caracal)
Whoa, that new Stiletto looks awesome.
I really like most of these designs, because they confer a sense of the huge size of those ships- the old Thrasher, iconic as it was, simply looked too much like a generic garbage truck.
I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it.
Yes, I do feel bad about it.
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Lucy Lopez
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
54
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Posted - 2015.06.19 16:42:42 -
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I like it. |
Hra Neuvosto
Fistful of Finns
Triumvirate.
356
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Posted - 2015.06.19 16:47:52 -
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Looks good, it has more scale. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
the troll bridge
22009
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Posted - 2015.06.19 16:48:32 -
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Im still recovering from my Incursus'.... operation.
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Paranoid Loyd
5864
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Posted - 2015.06.19 16:51:39 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:I'd prefer to see it bear at least some resemblance to the old one.
It does have wingy bits.
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Fix the Prospect!!!
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Trajan Unknown
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
55
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Posted - 2015.06.19 16:54:43 -
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Leon Mantis wrote:Trajan Unknown wrote:Well it is WIP and like every kind of art or design the likes&dislikes are pretty much individual taste.
I personally have no grudge against the new Thrasher but it-¦s WIP so who knows how it will look in its finalised form?
The old Thrasher on the other hand has it-¦s charm but I am open for changes. That aside why people pre judge everything so fast? Give some constructive feedback, point out improvements you would make and influence the WIP or else just rant and get the thread closed. You make a good point that new things should not be judged to fast, However This Devblog makes me think it is actually a design that has been worked on for at least a little while. And even if it is still a WIP, i actually think its good to know what people think early on so that it can be changed (if Needed) early on aswell. My feedback? its ugly and not worthy of being the new thrasher.. Points of inprovements... Don't do a totally new design for the thrasher, Keep it oldskool (like ccp did with the Caracal)
- Well, they will change the Thrasher that-¦s a given fact.
- They have some concepts on the table.
- It-¦s open for changes or improvements as some might say
- Get yourself into the process and let them know what you would change.
I totally agree that everyone should raise his or her voice to give input&feedback on the design but you need to add something to the table that is actually useful else it will be ignored. I did a lot of artwork in the past and it is sometimes really hard to determine what the hell the customer wants and I did commission work mostly so I had to come up with something the customer wants but when the customer doesn-¦t know what he/she wants it-¦s a pain in the ass to realise what you should actually work out.
I personally would like to see the Thrasher more rusty and maybe try to keep the old "look" a bit more. The front of the actual/old Thrasher looks a bit like a fish or an amphibian head and keep that style is something I would aim for with the new design.
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Erin Crawford
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Posted - 2015.06.19 16:57:50 -
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Zimmy Zeta wrote:Oh, shiny. I actually like that new design.
So do I, very much so in fact.
The scale of the little details is what's awesome!
I like this new direction and hope many more ship will be treated similarly.
"Those who talk donGÇÖt know. Those who know donGÇÖt talk. "
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DaReaper
Net 7
2225
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Posted - 2015.06.19 16:59:01 -
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it looks like in warp the solar fins retract. Thats kinda cool.
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Memphis Baas
473
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Posted - 2015.06.19 17:10:11 -
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The top part of the ship should be animated with a forward-and-back motion to complete the whole deal, because that, to me, looks like a pair of insects having sexy-time. |
Verdis deMosays
Alexylva Paradox
Low-Class
89
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Posted - 2015.06.19 17:12:07 -
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While i like a lot of the redesigns, this one is not acceptable. Not even close. It looks like the old Moa, which is not good for being Minmatar.
Now for the dev-targeted feedback:
1: the humpbacked look is all wrong. The current Thrasher looks like a minnow with an underbite, this looks too far away from that to be called a thrasher.
2: the colors are all wrong. It really does look Caldari, so the new model is pretty much breaking lore for ship design.
3: why does it even need a rework? I know a lot of folks who fly thrasher/sabre, and I've never heard anyone say how they hated the look. If the art department wants input on what to work on, ask on the forums. My short list would be: drake, kestrel and the Imicus. Especially the Imicus, it looks like a hotdog with a kickstand.
Just my thoughts, hopefully it contributes to a better design direction. |
Solhild
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
1967
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Posted - 2015.06.19 17:12:32 -
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Excellent design. I hope it goes out close to the WIP posted. Artists getting much better at this stuff 
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Unsuccessful At Everything
the troll bridge
22011
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Posted - 2015.06.19 17:47:40 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Shederov Blood wrote:I'd prefer to see it bear at least some resemblance to the old one. It does have wingy bits.
They have a proper name you know!
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Zoe Athame
Don't Lose Your Way
283
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Posted - 2015.06.19 17:55:16 -
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Looks caldari |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6722
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Posted - 2015.06.19 17:57:42 -
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Leon Mantis wrote:What is This supposed to be? Front & BackIt says it is the new design for the Thrasher... but.... really? My opinion, It is ugly... very ugly It doesn't even look like a ship made for battle... and totally not worthy of being the new thrasher Here is a picture of some more earlier designs of the trasher, to my surprise they are all ugly... Choosing the "best" out of all ugly designs is a very bad choice Thrasher looks good how it is... so i don't understand why ccp has chosen this new design... Post what you think about this new thrasher....! Really hoping ccp will throw away this design and come up with a better new Thrasher. Disappointed. (edit: Thrasher... not Trasher
While I like new designs, this one certainly looks like something we might have in orbit around earth right now.
But overall, Eve is being redesigned and this design for the Thrasher would appear to be along the advanced lines of what CCP is trying to achieve with the appearance of "racial" ships.
For example, the Caldari. Look at the Blackbird and the Caracal for example. They look VERY Caldari now. The Amarr ships have lots more gold and swirlies now too.
So it's time, apparently, that Minmatar ships start looking more Minmatar.
I look forward to seeing what becomes of the Gallente ships. I imagine that Gallante ships will be very audacious with lots of "style" and chrome. Like the fins on a Cadilac from the 1950s for example.
They will all still shoot things and blow up no matter what they look like.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Dirk Magnum
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
478
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Posted - 2015.06.19 18:00:51 -
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Art department continues to not get it.
This crap looks like a Caldari ship with panels attached. As for that second picture with the "other" designs, you could swap out the Minmatar symbol for Caldari, said it was the redesign of any ship in that race, and sat back to watch people obliviously debate it.
-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á "LIVE FAST DIE."
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Digits Kho
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
65
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Posted - 2015.06.19 18:01:40 -
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Leon Mantis wrote:What is This supposed to be? Front & BackIt says it is the new design for the Thrasher... but.... really? My opinion, It is ugly... very ugly It doesn't even look like a ship made for battle... and totally not worthy of being the new thrasher Here is a picture of some more earlier designs of the trasher, to my surprise they are all ugly... Choosing the "best" out of all ugly designs is a very bad choice Thrasher looks good how it is... so i don't understand why ccp has chosen this new design... Post what you think about this new thrasher....! Really hoping ccp will throw away this design and come up with a better new Thrasher. Disappointed. (edit: Thrasher... not Trasher
For some reason new thrasher reminds me of something like this |
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
899
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Posted - 2015.06.19 18:02:42 -
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Good stuff like it very much.
Please do a talwar similar favor. |
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
2558
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Posted - 2015.06.19 18:16:23 -
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My eyes!
The goggles do nothing!
Please, CCP, for the love of Freyja, don't do this.
I've been hideously supportive of every redesign, thus far. Even the Moa, which took a short adjustment period. Even the Incursus, other than the removal of my beloved lance.
But, this..... this is blasphemy.
That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...
[#savethelance]
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Paranoid Loyd
5869
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Posted - 2015.06.19 18:24:32 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Shederov Blood wrote:I'd prefer to see it bear at least some resemblance to the old one. It does have wingy bits. They have a proper name you know!
Wat? I thought that was their proper name!?!
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Joe Atei
Aes Dei Asher
15
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Posted - 2015.06.19 18:24:41 -
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I'm still trying to figure out when my people got some real engineers for our ships instead of the brutes who used rusted metal panels held up by duct tape |
Arla Sarain
501
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Posted - 2015.06.19 18:25:06 -
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#ilikethenewthrasher
#ilikethenewsabre
#probeop
#cheetahbuff? |
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Stacy Lone
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
106
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Posted - 2015.06.19 18:56:54 -
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Arla Sarain wrote:#ilikethenewthrasher
#ilikethenewsabre
#probeop
#cheetahbuff?
#writewholefuckingsentences
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10191
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Posted - 2015.06.19 19:09:33 -
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Stacy Lone wrote:Arla Sarain wrote:#ilikethenewthrasher
#ilikethenewsabre
#probeop
#cheetahbuff? #writewholefuckingsentences
#amidoingitright?
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
271
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Posted - 2015.06.19 19:10:07 -
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I can't understand why the f word CCP is spending its precious time on things that dont need redesign. |
Arla Sarain
503
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Posted - 2015.06.19 19:11:32 -
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Nana Skalski wrote:I can't understand why the f word CCP is spending its precious time on things that dont need redesign.
Thats because they need a redesign. |
Hengle Teron
Explosions Delivered with Love
54153
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Posted - 2015.06.19 19:23:06 -
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What the **** is that ? |
Unsuccessful At Everything
the troll bridge
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Posted - 2015.06.19 19:36:26 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Stacy Lone wrote:Arla Sarain wrote:#ilikethenewthrasher
#ilikethenewsabre
#probeop
#cheetahbuff? #writewholefuckingsentences #amidoingitright?
#arewereallydoingthis?
#pancakebreakfastforlunchbecasuereasons
#ijustwantedtohashtagposttoo
#typinglikethishurtsmybrain
#ithurtstonotusethespacebar
#amitheonlyonewhofeelsthatway?
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Beta Maoye
65
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Posted - 2015.06.19 19:41:09 -
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Thrasher is a fish. They may make a new fish, but please don't make it a monster. |
miiral
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Posted - 2015.06.19 19:42:03 -
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Hengle Teron wrote:What the **** is that ?
Maybe it's just the booze talking but it looks like one Caldari ship "mounting" another 
li'l things about miiral...GÅÄ
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Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
289
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Posted - 2015.06.19 19:49:20 -
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It's caldari with wings. Looks very cool but not minmatar enough. Not enough rust.
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Love Squad
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
1800
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Posted - 2015.06.19 19:49:57 -
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Every ship looks caldari these days.
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Commissar Kate
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
404568
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Posted - 2015.06.19 19:51:09 -
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That must be one hell of a licensing fee the Minmatar paid to get their hands on a Caldari ship.
-k8
My Fanclub
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DaReaper
Net 7
2228
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Posted - 2015.06.19 19:55:32 -
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I'm starting to think ccp should just stop telling us about changes and just do them. The knee jerking is insane,
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Commissar Kate
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
404568
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Posted - 2015.06.19 19:57:03 -
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DaReaper wrote:I'm starting to think ccp should just stop telling us about changes and just do them. The knee jerking is insane,
Agreed, I dont know whats more fun. The Thrasher change or the warp changes.
-k8
My Fanclub
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
3660
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Posted - 2015.06.19 19:57:50 -
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That's ugly. The two bodies look really weird. Current Thrasher is cool, it always reminded me of a diesel train engine.
The new dessign... well, I concur with people saying it's like spaceship sex. But not of the kind whose product you'd fly proudly, if you know what I mean.
73% of EVE characters stay in high security space. 62% of EVE subscribers barely PvP. 40% of all new accounts just "level up their Ravens". Probably that's why PvE content in EVE Online is sub-par and CCP is head over heels for PvP...
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Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
1181
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Posted - 2015.06.19 20:02:12 -
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Leon Mantis wrote:What is This supposed to be?
I assumed the Thrasher was the top bit, and it was ... err... molesting some other new ship.
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Marsha Mallow
2229
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Posted - 2015.06.19 20:06:09 -
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DaReaper wrote:I'm starting to think ccp should just stop telling us about changes and just do them. The knee jerking is insane,
The teary face image just says it all and I'm pretty impressed that was snuck into a devbog tbh. If people are going to nerd rage this much over every little thing it's absolutely fine by me, devblog feedback threads are starting to be the funniest EvE comment section to be found anywhere.
Solecist Project wrote: See, the issue isn't the rubbing
ISD Ezwal wrote: Nope, no one will get banned for 'rubbing'
Benny Ohu wrote: fire up the argument calibrators set phasers to outraged overheat keyboards reinforce the thread
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
1012
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Posted - 2015.06.19 20:28:24 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Every ship looks caldari these days.
This. EVE ship design has become very uniform lately.
Remove insurance.
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Otso Bakarti
Filial Pariahs
270
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Posted - 2015.06.19 20:48:48 -
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Oh, that design is almost too clean! It needs more stuff poking out, and surfaces with no logical purpose! Imagine replacing the Thrasher with a design that makes visual sense! What a SIN! I agree. A ship that looks like a Raven got seasick and threw up a Caldari junkyard is aesthetic utopia.
I survived Win95
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Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
786
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Posted - 2015.06.19 21:06:09 -
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So what is the Minmatar aesthetic supposed to be? Aside from having solar panels and being brown? They've always been a combination of boxy shapes and angular shapes. Just like Caldari. Caldari & Minmatar = straight and angular, Amarr & Gallente = smooth and sleek. Minmatar used to have a bunch of terrible alpha-textured antenna sticking out, is that what people are missing? |
pushdogg
Tell Your Mum To Call Me
Get Off My Lawn
16
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Posted - 2015.06.19 21:18:12 -
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i play so zoomed out i cant see my ship anyway. stilleto looks awesome, thrasher looks awesome(same model since i started playing).
now if only they would actually commit to changing the domi....
oh yeah....its their game....if it was mine i would tell all the nay sayers to go service a fedo. |
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Amonios Zula
Aeon Ascendant
44
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Posted - 2015.06.19 21:21:16 -
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Tbh I prefer the current design of the Thrasher.
Its a no nosense utilitarian warship that does its job pretty well and certainly looks the part.
I'm not opposed to it getting an update, but I'd rather they kept closer to its current roots.
the wip art shown looks almost like someone has dumped half of another ship on top of it making it look a bit messy. |
Cyborg Girl86
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2015.06.19 21:26:56 -
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Just looked at the concept art page of some of the ship redesigns...
YAY!!! The Domi, one of my favorite BS, isn't going to look like a giant green space potato with a smushed front-end anymore!! |
Hal Morsh
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
318
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Posted - 2015.06.19 21:34:27 -
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Just because some people think the imcus looks ugly doesn't mean it shouldn't exist, we have our ugly ships to balance out the game from being bland. I in fact like the imicus. Their new design gives it two kick stands, and it is no longer the imicus but a ship taking a **** (or a old style 2d space ship icon from afar). I also liked the old exequror because I could name it "long dong silver" and it had a pretty good resemblance. Now it's 95%symetrical. =ƒÿ¡
Dun'Gal > Hal is simply an imperfect ai, though if drunkeness ever gets programmed into ai's I foresee both a hilarious and tragic end to humanity.
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Leon Mantis
Limul Tribal
6
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Posted - 2015.06.19 22:10:22 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Leon Mantis wrote:What is This supposed to be? Front & BackIt says it is the new design for the Thrasher... but.... really? My opinion, It is ugly... very ugly It doesn't even look like a ship made for battle... and totally not worthy of being the new thrasher Here is a picture of some more earlier designs of the trasher, to my surprise they are all ugly... Choosing the "best" out of all ugly designs is a very bad choice Thrasher looks good how it is... so i don't understand why ccp has chosen this new design... Post what you think about this new thrasher....! Really hoping ccp will throw away this design and come up with a better new Thrasher. Disappointed. (edit: Thrasher... not Trasher While I like new designs, this one certainly looks like something we might have in orbit around earth right now. But overall, Eve is being redesigned and this design for the Thrasher would appear to be along the advanced lines of what CCP is trying to achieve with the appearance of "racial" ships. For example, the Caldari. Look at the Blackbird and the Caracal for example. They look VERY Caldari now. The Amarr ships have lots more gold and swirlies now too. So it's time, apparently, that Minmatar ships start looking more Minmatar. I look forward to seeing what becomes of the Gallente ships. I imagine that Gallante ships will be very audacious with lots of "style" and chrome. Like the fins on a Cadilac from the 1950s for example. They will all still shoot things and blow up no matter what they look like.
I like this comment, you are probably right.
Minmatar ships will probably be getting a more minmatar kind-of look and with the new more advanced designs (more detail and and scale sense) this is deffinetly a good thing.
this new thrasher design does look like it has a lot of things going on witch could be cool... but it should look a bit more like the current thrasher.
Also, yes deffinetly looking forward to flying the new Dominix
not really commenting on the new Stiletto/Slasher and Probe yet other than that they look allright, at least you can tell they are redesigns for those ships. if this picture did not have the Thrasher redisign WIP words on it, I would think its a totally new ship entirely. |
Atomic Virulent
Dark Matter Industrial
125
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Posted - 2015.06.19 22:34:59 -
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God I hope that's a new design coming soon.. The old Thrasher looks like a rotting fish carcass. This would be a great improvement. |
Captain Africa
GRIM MARCH
Circle-Of-Two
116
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Posted - 2015.06.19 22:35:50 -
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Hey bro ...I really like what you have done so far regarding the new designs. BUT the new Thrasher design resembles a CNN Satellite and most definitely not a destroyer. The chopper like design (heavy front and narrow back with the fins on the side is what you associate with a Thrasher .The new design is not a bad design but its not a Thrasher man.
If you can stick to the chopper look and improve on that everyone would go YAY!!!!
Ps use this new design maybe for something else... |
Leon Mantis
Limul Tribal
6
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Posted - 2015.06.19 22:50:06 -
[57] - Quote
I have been looking a bit more into This Picture wich shows some more variants of the design, maybe for the T2 Sabre.
I think image B in the picture looks a lot more like the current thrasher and I think I would be fine with it if thats going to be the new thrasher instead of this one. |
Lucy Lopez
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
55
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Posted - 2015.06.19 23:07:53 -
[58] - Quote
Trasher is an appropriate name for a ship that's all about turning other ships into wrecks. |
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1664
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Posted - 2015.06.20 00:14:41 -
[59] - Quote
Leon Mantis wrote:I have been looking a bit more into This Picture wich shows some more variants of the design, maybe for the T2 Sabre. I think image B in the picture looks a lot more like the current thrasher and I think I would be fine with it if thats going to be the new thrasher instead of this one.
Ok, now I can see it. This one is basically those other 6 with the "face-plate" removed. But why take it off? It just looks like something is missing. Hopefully "WIP" means they just haven't decided which face to give it yet, because I like at least 4 of those 6.
Who put the goat in there?
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Zoe Athame
Don't Lose Your Way
285
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Posted - 2015.06.20 00:40:08 -
[60] - Quote
Whether or not you like the new design, I think we can all agree that the old thrasher looked fine and should have been low on the remodel priority list. |
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Leon Mantis
Limul Tribal
6
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Posted - 2015.06.20 00:42:17 -
[61] - Quote
True. |
Xavier Holtzman
Imploding Turtles Rising in Outerspace Gravity
Get Off My Lawn
269
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Posted - 2015.06.20 01:40:18 -
[62] - Quote
Leon Mantis wrote:
My opinion, It is ugly... very ugly
Opinions are like buttholes. Thanks for coming to GD to show everyone your butthole.
I do not like the men on this spaceship. They are uncouth and fail to appreciate my better qualities. I have something of value to contribute to this mission if only they would realize it.
- Bill Frug
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solrac lara
The Soul Society
DeepSpace.
2
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Posted - 2015.06.20 03:04:29 -
[63] - Quote
I dont know they look nice but not ninmatar enough also they remind me of the old terran ships on eve origins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZPCiqBLPM8 from 0:10 to 0:42
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Alyssen Thorne
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.06.20 03:55:37 -
[64] - Quote
It looks Caldari. Meaning it looks wrong. |
Inir Ishtori
Perkone
Caldari State
78
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Posted - 2015.06.20 08:21:58 -
[65] - Quote
The current trasher look conveys that it
a. is fast/speedy
b. will f**k you up.
The new does not. It looks caldari and more like a science vessel.
Removal of new the upper part would instantly return the new Thrasher to its old design language while still keep the new modernized look, imo. |
Lisa Gentilette
The Scope
Gallente Federation
118
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Posted - 2015.06.20 08:42:34 -
[66] - Quote
Aralyn Cormallen wrote:Leon Mantis wrote:What is This supposed to be? I assumed that picture was showing two Thrashers, with the top one ... err... molesting the other. Looks more like something industrial then something you should be afraid off. |
Rectile
Warped
9
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Posted - 2015.06.20 09:08:37 -
[67] - Quote
isnt it supposed to at least resemble a thrasher?
i wish they would redo the atron and make it symmetrical like the crow and others |
Aramatheia
Tiffany and Co.
212
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Posted - 2015.06.20 10:29:32 -
[68] - Quote
that J version looks alot like a frigate from the halo series! I'd fly that! |
Mr Duffo
Operation Meatshield
124
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Posted - 2015.06.20 11:27:37 -
[69] - Quote
Ballsy move! Would had expected same way they did on stabber. I think this is first time they change the whole hull but I like it for its ugliness.
Piece of art imo |
Neesa Corrinne
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
82
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Posted - 2015.06.20 12:04:39 -
[70] - Quote
The Thrasher is one of the few smaller ships in the Minmatar inventory that didn't look like ****. If anything leave the Thrasher as it is and work on remodeling Minmatar frigates. Literally every Minmatar frigate except the Rifter looks like ass.
This new concept looks like a Caldari ship with solar panels tacked onto it. It's not very Minmatar at all. |
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Krell Kroenen
The Devil's Shadow
254
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Posted - 2015.06.20 12:23:51 -
[71] - Quote
I too don't care much for the new Thrasher, it seems too far removed from the original to share the same name. And out side of the solar panels it doesn't seem to fit the bill to be called Minmatar.
Just my two cents. |
Astrogha Ronuken
Heggnalarei Industry
0
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Posted - 2015.06.20 12:52:55 -
[72] - Quote
I actually think it looks beautiful.
An earthly look, alot of fins / sails and the booster rockets is a good step, making minmatar ships (definitely the smaller ships) look different from the other race-¦s ships (if they keep it to minmatar ships), a bold and strongly new design, i would say it fit-¦s Minmatar excellent, it looks how Minmatar would actually look in the future.
Im pleased with the design.
good work Art Department. |
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
1112
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Posted - 2015.06.20 13:41:09 -
[73] - Quote
I love the new thrasher, putting aside the ship on a ship. Whichever artist came up with the idea that *adding something ugly* to a good looking ship makes it beautiful, was wrong.
Thrasher would be gorgous without that tumor on top. Like that though, please imprison respective artist. |
Gregor Parud
Ordo Ardish
1372
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Posted - 2015.06.20 13:43:43 -
[74] - Quote
They better not fck up the cyclone. |
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
787
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Posted - 2015.06.20 13:46:26 -
[75] - Quote
Yeah I kinda like the cone-shaped booster rocket thrusters too. Its primitive, unstable, and violent looking in comparison to the more futuristic thrusters. Propulsion through brute force. Makes Minmatar look like the Reavers of the EVE universe. |
Arla Sarain
507
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Posted - 2015.06.20 13:56:07 -
[76] - Quote
The thrasher and probe look nice, but neither resemble technology followed by Stabber/Vagabond and Panther.
They do resemble Caldari designs - high tech, maybe utilitarian, and slightly old in Minmatar cases. The Stiletto is perfect IMO - minimalistic, but functional. I think the probe should lose some surfaces from the main body (thrusters are a perfect match, and the new solar panels are nice, as well as the command bridge thingy in the front - very reminiscent of Huggin/Vargur).
The designs are nice, but you can't sell that thrasher design as a Minmatar effort result by simply slapping some brown and rust on it.
Also there is A LOT going on on the Thrasher. Loads of detail that seems arbitrary. Arguably so on the Stiletto, but the minimalistic look offsets that.
Design B from here looks best IMO. Its recognisable, the concepts don't have a lot of detail, its minimalistic enough to sell it as Minny.
Current trend seems to be inspired by Soviet and/or WW2 trains. |
Kestral Anneto
The Founding Four
Fidelas Constans
72
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Posted - 2015.06.20 14:05:46 -
[77] - Quote
If all Minmitar ships start looking like that, the I may start flying them. |
Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
Heiian Conglomerate
277
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Posted - 2015.06.20 14:19:49 -
[78] - Quote
New design looks spectacular in my opinion. I'd love to see this pushed through as is. |
Erin Crawford
474
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Posted - 2015.06.20 14:22:15 -
[79] - Quote
Kestral Anneto wrote:If all Minmitar ships start looking like that, the I may start flying them.
Same here!
"Those who talk donGÇÖt know. Those who know donGÇÖt talk. "
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Hiply Rustic
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
281
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Posted - 2015.06.20 15:03:32 -
[80] - Quote
Aralyn Cormallen wrote:Leon Mantis wrote:What is This supposed to be? I assumed that picture was showing two Thrashers, with the top one ... err... molesting the other.
No, this goes way deeper than art. The top is detachable, and functions like the old saucer section in Star Trek. Your pod's inside the top section; you can uncouple it and engage a secondary tier of weapons and mods if you're about to get blown to bits...sacrificing the bottom half which you would need to buy and fit again if you separate.
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
"Eve deliberately excludes the stupid and the weak willied."
EvE: Only the strong-willied need apply.
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Sarayu Wyvern
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.06.20 15:13:36 -
[81] - Quote
I honestly like the new design. The only thing I wish it had was more thrusters. |
Lulu Lunette
Custodes Olim
United Systems of Aridia
34
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Posted - 2015.06.20 15:26:29 -
[82] - Quote
Another pic of the new Thrasher http://i.imgur.com/YzBl3Nu.jpg
Seriously though... Brutal. 
@lunettelulu7
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Faelune
Tous Pour Un
7
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Posted - 2015.06.20 17:40:34 -
[83] - Quote
Brutal ...
I found a picture of somewhat it wil be full fitted
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/219556JEANBART19535auhavre.jpg
Brutal yeah. But nothing more a thrasher. Just a bulk of artillery like in old cartoon
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Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
900
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Posted - 2015.06.20 17:56:24 -
[84] - Quote
like it more and more with every look |
Faelune
Tous Pour Un
7
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Posted - 2015.06.20 19:16:12 -
[85] - Quote
If you like so much something steam punk with rivets all around, gears, crankshatf, chimney, wingbat, copper pipe, grill antennas and so on, I believe Sanshas is a better choice.
Minmatar design is only some amarr design without shiny armor plates to wrap a hull and after that some brutal engine to enforce their right.
Nothing to do with a romantic way of life with new gothic castle
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Claud Tiberius
118
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Posted - 2015.06.21 06:53:21 -
[86] - Quote
New Thrasher looks awesome. It makes every other T1/2 Destroyer look average.
Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end.
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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3687
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Posted - 2015.06.21 07:07:06 -
[87] - Quote
CCP no, Thrasher is a wasp.
Oh god.
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ColdCutz
Frigonometry
118
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Posted - 2015.06.21 12:54:36 -
[88] - Quote
Can't wait for the Rifter redesign. You think they won't? |
Arthur Aihaken
Jormungand Corporation
4458
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Posted - 2015.06.21 13:19:29 -
[89] - Quote
It still has solar panels, so that's good - right?
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
4098
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Posted - 2015.06.21 14:47:07 -
[90] - Quote
Do not change the Thrasher design! Reasons:
-Nostalgia
-It's the only ship in the game that looks like something in an aquarium. Lying on the bottom of it.
You're trying to conquer me
You never will conquer me
-Delroy Wilson
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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3689
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Posted - 2015.06.21 14:52:25 -
[91] - Quote
Arthur Aihaken wrote:It still has solar panels, so that's good - right?
I think those are the heat sinks.
Oh god.
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Dave Stark
7481
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Posted - 2015.06.21 15:12:46 -
[92] - Quote
i've liked most of the new ship designs.
but my god that thrasher is uglier than the old moa. |
Bak
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2015.06.21 15:37:24 -
[93] - Quote
I think it looks kind of cool |
Kaaeliaa
Neon Incorporated
404 Alliance Not Found
79221
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Posted - 2015.06.21 15:58:07 -
[94] - Quote
Hengle Teron wrote:What the **** is that ?
My exact reaction.
It doesn't look anything like a Thrasher, and the Thrasher wasn't begging for a redesign. I don't even like Minmatar ships and I thought the Thrasher was decently good-looking.
The other redesigns have been mostly good. This one? No. Just, no.
Commissar Kate is my spacewife GÖÑ
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Sarayu Wyvern
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.06.21 17:25:30 -
[95] - Quote
ColdCutz wrote:Can't wait for the Rifter redesign. You think they won't?
I think it'll be the same shape with a shitload more detail. Gotta make sure the most iconic ship in EVE stays up to snuff. |
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1665
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Posted - 2015.06.21 22:06:56 -
[96] - Quote
Riot Girl wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:It still has solar panels, so that's good - right? I think those are the heat sinks. I think they're for reflecting fricking laserbeams, which is why Minmatar ships have higher innate EM resists.
Who put the goat in there?
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Lord Chumly
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2015.06.22 00:24:56 -
[97] - Quote
New design looks really cool, especially the thrusters. It does look a little new-Caldari in the front, but some of the WiP sketches with the sloped front design do a good job of maintaining the "classic" MInmatar aesthetic.
They could also modify the extra bulky part on top. That's contributing to the Caldari look.
So, keep the sloped front from the lettered WiP sketches and lose the top section (or shrink/flatten it down somewhat) and you have yourself a winner. |
Carmen Electra
Shiptoasters
60961
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Posted - 2015.06.22 05:36:04 -
[98] - Quote
Looks nice to me. Just a shame you really never get to appreciate any of these details in the course of normal gameplay.
Bacon makes us stronger
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Nabiah
Troll Patrol
2
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Posted - 2015.06.22 08:18:32 -
[99] - Quote
so new design for ship that imo needed new design.
input: being from a tribal background, minmatar ships should have a defined concept shape but not a technical perfect shape ( i.g. the organic gallente ships ).
Having this in mind, enny minmatar design should have a resemblance with something but not look technically perfect constructed.
We have this in place to some extend if we look and how ships seam to be build out of pieces while trying to achieve a general visual concept.
Now this new proposed design for the Trasher doesn't immediately resemble anything but it looked a bit too caldari in detail.
For example, the thrusters seam now to be way smaller than in other minmatar ships and the solar pannels that in some cases are a imposing visual icon for the race, seam, in this case, to be placed just because they had to go somewhere..
In general The design shows a good effort but needs better concept and less tech.
thanks,
Nab |
Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
389
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Posted - 2015.06.22 08:55:44 -
[100] - Quote
Nana Skalski wrote:I can't understand why the f word CCP is spending its precious time on things that dont need redesign.
This comes up a lot.
With a new graphics engine, you need updated art assets like texture maps and yes even models. Since the orginals can be 10 years old or something it is common that you simply had to redo everything for the new engine. Also it is very common that you have different artists. So it is often less work to just redo the design from scratch.
Of course you may say why update the graphics engine. Unfortunately for performance and compatibity reasons updating the pipeline to be more compatible with modern cards is typically required.
And well i love the new design.
Death and Glory!
Well fun is also good.
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Zimmy Zeta
Lisa Needs Braces.
57936
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Posted - 2015.06.22 09:06:29 -
[101] - Quote
Carmen Electra wrote:Looks nice to me. Just a shame you really never get to appreciate any of these details in the course of normal gameplay.
>> implying ship spinning is not normal gameplay.
I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it.
Yes, I do feel bad about it.
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Doctor Knuckles
Black Fox Marauders
Spaceship Bebop
125
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Posted - 2015.06.22 09:11:53 -
[102] - Quote
I love it.
It looks like a random bunch of scrap parts from different spaceship duct taped togheter
10/10 would minmatar |
Varathius
Enlightened Industries
Goonswarm Federation
184
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Posted - 2015.06.22 13:20:34 -
[103] - Quote
does the new version come with a lipstick holder? |
Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
390
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Posted - 2015.06.22 14:27:24 -
[104] - Quote
Varathius wrote:does the new version come with a lipstick holder?
Apparently, due to CSM shenanigans, it comes with only a hat holder.
Death and Glory!
Well fun is also good.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
50657
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Posted - 2015.06.23 02:01:28 -
[105] - Quote
Regarding the new change, cast my vote for a big NO.
Seriously.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
4106
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Posted - 2015.06.23 02:20:43 -
[106] - Quote
But seriously--- Please don't change the Thrasher. It's one of the art design things that made EVE not Jumpgate, Earth and Beyond, or anything else way back in MMO pre-history. The dark, funky, Euro-ish aesthetic of EVE is what made this game stand out as so different. Maybe what put it in MoMA as well. Don't toss out that classic artwork, CCP!
Make a Thrasher Mk. II, maybe. Or make the old Thrasher a nerfed Thrasher Heritage Edition or something. Save the art, it's got a gazillion person-hours of people identifying with it. No use tossing it out, keep it and do some new art, eh?
You're trying to conquer me
You never will conquer me
-Delroy Wilson
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Tyra Falco
Hugbox Holdings
4475
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Posted - 2015.06.23 16:27:01 -
[107] - Quote
As much as I like the new Thrasher model (I'll get used to it), I would think both the Burst (a cardboard box with solar panels) and the Talwar (a brick with solar panels) need a once-over more than the Thrasher
Why fix something that is not broken just for the sake of change?
Samoth Egnoled -'I like your Avatar alot!-áThe facial tattoo's kinda give you that scary clown look, which suits you quite well.'
Pepper Swift -'Fuckisn like not workign'
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To mare
Advanced Technology
413
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Posted - 2015.06.23 16:30:25 -
[108] - Quote
that thing look so bad, need more ducktape |
Falken Falcon
31997
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Posted - 2015.06.24 06:02:31 -
[109] - Quote
Well the good part is that we don't need third party artists for r34 now.
Aye, Sea Turtles
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d0cTeR9
Astro Technologies
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
188
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Posted - 2015.06.24 13:04:05 -
[110] - Quote
New minmatar ships look GREAT.
They keep that 'older tech' look and 'mix-match' assembly. With the new 'rust' effect, Minmatar finally are getting good looking (but rusty/older) ships. |
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Skurja Volpar
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
137
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Posted - 2015.06.25 09:30:48 -
[111] - Quote
It looks more Caldari than Minmatar to me, like a cross between the new blackbird and the jackdaw. The front/bridge area in particular looks more in keeping with one of the new caldari designs.
The images in this post (C, D & E especially) retaining the chunky front end and keeping the ships silhouette intact are pretty promising.
I like the new probe and stiletto just fine though. |
Anthar Thebess
1161
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Posted - 2015.06.25 10:36:09 -
[112] - Quote
Please use this model for a minmatar titan :D
Capital Remote AID Rebalance
Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
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Infrequent
Stillwater Corporation
That Escalated Quickly.
87
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Posted - 2015.06.25 13:19:41 -
[113] - Quote
Since when were Minnie ships meant to look like anything other than trash put together for battle? They were not made to look good, they were made for use, simple as that. |
Anslo
Scope Works
31828
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Posted - 2015.06.25 13:48:36 -
[114] - Quote
Looks cool. Doesn't look like a Thrasher, but looks cool. +1
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Ragged Starkiller
Hoplite Brigade
0
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Posted - 2015.06.25 13:59:33 -
[115] - Quote
Old models are classic, but the new models looks awesome.
Still something bothers me. Remember there is no friction in space, so stop doing aerodynamic models!!
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Nevil Oscillator
209
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Posted - 2015.06.26 09:34:04 -
[116] - Quote
I've seen other designs that in my opinion are better. Someone posted them in a chat but I didn't save the link. There is more info out there somewhere. |
Tisiphone Dira
New Order Logistics
CODE.
224
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Posted - 2015.06.26 10:57:06 -
[117] - Quote
Who among you have flown more thrashers than I? I am the most qualified to speak on this. Hear my words.
If so much as one rust flake is changed on my precious thrasher I WILL BURN HEK TO THE GROUND. No pod or shuttle will be safe. |
solrac lara
The Soul Society
DeepSpace.
4
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Posted - 2015.06.26 13:39:27 -
[118] - Quote
The F one looks better
talwar |
Bullet Anarchy
Venom and Bullet Corporation
3
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Posted - 2015.06.26 20:31:21 -
[119] - Quote
F sucks
B is the Thrasher
The shape should stay, the only thing they could do with Minmatar ships is make them all look more organic like the firetail, would work for the Talwar to be a death beatle
On Target
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6743
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Posted - 2015.06.27 00:45:31 -
[120] - Quote
Tyra Falco wrote:As much as I like the new Thrasher model (I'll get used to it), I would think both the Burst (a cardboard box with solar panels) and the Talwar (a brick with solar panels) need a once-over more than the Thrasher Why fix something that is not broken just for the sake of change?
Imicus Imicus Imicus
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
4124
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Posted - 2015.06.27 01:05:51 -
[121] - Quote
Tisiphone Dira wrote:Who among you has flown more thrashers than I? I am the most qualified to speak on this. Hear my words.
If so much as one rust flake is changed on my precious thrasher I WILL BURN HEK TO THE GROUND. No pod or shuttle will be safe.
^ Say it brother!
You're trying to conquer me
You never will conquer me
-Delroy Wilson
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Azusa Asara
Asara Corporation
11
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Posted - 2015.06.27 06:49:12 -
[122] - Quote
Every new ship design seems to be 3 steps.
1.) Add more polygons, don't care where.
2.) Add a moving part when warping, even if it makes absolutely no sense.
3.) Add lots of pointy bits sticking out everywhere to make it look techy.
These steps wouldn't be so bad, however, CCP artists have made the new models look complicated and busy where a simpler approach could be taken. More polygons and extruding parts doesn't mean it's better or "up to date". |
Tyra Falco
Hugbox Holdings
4506
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Posted - 2015.06.27 07:37:01 -
[123] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Imicus Imicus Imicus
Another ship that needs attention more desperately than the Thrasher.
I have heard that people train for the Helios so they can at least hide that awful hull
Samoth Egnoled -'I like your Avatar alot!-áThe facial tattoo's kinda give you that scary clown look, which suits you quite well.'
Pepper Swift -'Fuckisn like not workign'
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Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
392
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Posted - 2015.06.27 07:53:33 -
[124] - Quote
Azusa Asara wrote:
2.) Add a moving part when warping, even if it makes absolutely no sense.
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98% of eve makes absolutely no sense. Your point being?
And someone else said there is no friction in space so stop making them aerodynamic... Yet the ships fly more like aircraft than space ships.
IF you want accurate sensible space game, play kerbl space program.
Death and Glory!
Well fun is also good.
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Zappity
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
2288
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Posted - 2015.06.27 09:18:54 -
[125] - Quote
Looks too Caldari.
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec.
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Arthur Aihaken
Perkone
Caldari State
4467
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Posted - 2015.06.27 09:27:01 -
[126] - Quote
Leon Mantis wrote:My opinion, It is ugly... very ugly
Doesn't this basically sum up every Minmatar ship?
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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ST0NER SMURF
Vrix Nation
CODE.
229
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Posted - 2015.06.27 12:29:19 -
[127] - Quote
the smurf's are against this ugly mofo of a graphic downgrade, is the1 making it blind orso ?
wel if i scrol far enough i dont see the ugly mofo anyways
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Bullet Anarchy
Venom and Bullet Corporation
3
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Posted - 2015.06.27 14:10:43 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Leon Mantis wrote:My opinion, It is ugly... very ugly Doesn't this basically sum up every Minmatar ship?
Firetail is the best ship I've seen although some of the other ships are too scary to look at if you are flying a firetail.
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Cartheron Crust
Matari Exodus
The Camel Empire
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Posted - 2015.06.27 22:46:04 -
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New proposed model is terrible. Looks more Caldari than Minmatar. And seeing as the Thrasher was designed to support the Cyclone and based off it's hull (going from what I can remember of the lore) would the Cyclone be getting a similar terrible redesign? |
Thetabetalpha
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2015.06.27 23:41:27 -
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It looks too caldari-like.
Thrasher is the Pain Train! And what is this? Some bloody joke
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Seven Koskanaiken
FinFleet
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2015.06.28 02:17:12 -
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http://i.imgur.com/TR6LEuK.gif
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Thetabetalpha
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2015.06.28 02:41:16 -
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Rather this
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.28 15:22:56 -
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If you take away the color, it looks Caldari, like the Blackbird and Jackdaw. Basically what you would expect a Caldari frigate to look like.
I thought the planar colorscribble concepting style was alright so far because it gave Caldari ships a unifying look in this redesign pass. But now what, every ship is getting this treatment?
http://i.imgur.com/9huIDZD.png
We see shape before color, wasn't that the reason given for stripping colors out of our icons?
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Leon Mantis
Limul Tribal
15
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Posted - 2015.06.28 17:29:20 -
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No not really lol
Image B in the picture is what most of us want for the Thrasher i think... I would want it if they went ahead with this model
But to be honest... This was fine really.
I really like the current Thrasher engines more... |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.28 17:38:36 -
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I mean, you know, "everyone" was more a figure of speech. Fig b. has a strong resemblance, but the fins... you're ok with the fins looking blown forward?
http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/66201/1/ship9.png
http://i.imgur.com/iU3n2aG.png
We'll have to agree to disagree. You can't say it doesn't look fairly decent dank flipped upside down though.
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Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.06.28 20:41:51 -
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They are both ok but which one looks like a turret projectile destroyer ?
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Artemes Elleon
Auxilia Astra
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Posted - 2015.08.22 16:28:22 -
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I never liked the old thrasher. Its visual design does not convey the sense of scale (271m long, it's still a big ship), but it looks small.
With the proposed thrasher design, it conveys its size a lot better, and actually looks like a gun ship.
I have to agree with the statement that it looks Caldari. But the current Thrasher does not scream "Minmatar" to me either. The distinct Minmatar ships for me are the two carriers, slasher, burst, Naglfar, Rago Titan, and breacher/hound. The bare-bone look, antennas and spikes(towers?) everywhere, patchy hulls... the current thrasher just looks like a brick. That's not minmatar. |
Kiandoshia
Applied Anarchy
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2350
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Posted - 2015.08.22 17:18:51 -
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The old Thrasher did not fulfil the minumum requirement for retractable space antennae and moving warp flaps set in the moving parts on all spaceships act of 2014 (addendum 18-º74)
Thus, it is being redesigned. |
Panthe3 Black
The Branded Few
Test Alliance Please Ignore
443
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Posted - 2015.08.23 04:19:02 -
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pretty cool id say |
Panthe3 Black
The Branded Few
Test Alliance Please Ignore
443
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Posted - 2015.08.23 04:20:30 -
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Artemes Elleon wrote:I never liked the old thrasher. Its visual design does not convey the sense of scale (271m long, it's still a big ship), but it looks small.
With the proposed thrasher design, it conveys its size a lot better, and actually looks like a gun ship.
I have to agree with the statement that it looks Caldari. But the current Thrasher does not scream "Minmatar" to me either. The distinct Minmatar ships for me are the two carriers, slasher, burst, Naglfar, Rago Titan, and breacher/hound. The bare-bone look, antennas and spikes(towers?) everywhere, patchy hulls... the current thrasher just looks like a brick. That's not minmatar.
i kinda agree here |
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
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Posted - 2015.08.23 10:40:53 -
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Zappity wrote:Looks too Caldari.
The Caldari just sold their Garbage-scows to the Minnmatar at dumpingprices. The Matari, creative geniuses as they are, turned these obsolete garbage-scows into lethal destroyers, by cramming power generators in the roomy cargoholds & jammed up turrets on the extended space this former Caldari hull provides them compared to the old trasher.
The extended hull surface even allows them to expand the number of heatsink fins on it!
This is my headcanon for this new trasher design and I stick with it. Yes it looks very Caldari, specially when you remove the heatsink fins and honestly, it reminds me of a spaceship version of a garbage truck....
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Daemun Khanid
Sanctus Imperialis
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Posted - 2015.08.23 18:02:22 -
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You're all aware that none of your opinions are going to change anything right? New thrasher inbound and it's probably gonna look just like one of those concepts. Someone got paid to sit around a make that thing and if it got enough internal approval to get posted for the public they aren't gonna start from scratch, deal w it.
You have two choices in regard to ALL the changes that have been introduced or are in the works for EvE...
1. Accept the fact that things change and CCP are going to do whatever they decide they want to do and keep playing.
2. Throw a tantrum because they are screwing with "your" game and leave.
Just make up your mind already and stop whinging about it.
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Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
420
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Posted - 2015.08.23 18:12:29 -
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Daemun Khanid wrote:You're all aware that none of your opinions are going to change anything right? New thrasher inbound and it's probably gonna look just like one of those concepts. Someone got paid to sit around a make that thing and if it got enough internal approval to get posted for the public they aren't gonna start from scratch, deal w it.
You have two choices in regard to ALL the changes that have been introduced or are in the works for EvE...
1. Accept the fact that things change and CCP are going to do whatever they decide they want to do and keep playing.
2. Throw a tantrum because they are screwing with "your" game and leave.
Just make up your mind already and stop whinging about it.
Ive been going the tantrum #2 rpute pretty strong for several years.
I am adverse to any kind of change with anything.
So i guess i will continue with how i handle these situations the same as always...
OMFG DONT TOUCH MY ICONIC THRASHER.
WHATS NEXT CCP, GONNA MESS WITH MY RIFTER? MY MERLIN?
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Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
466
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Posted - 2015.08.23 18:13:24 -
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Tyra Falco wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Imicus Imicus Imicus Another ship that needs attention more desperately than the Thrasher. I have heard that people train for the Helios so they can at least hide that awful hull
I miss when the Helios used the Maulus hull. |
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
881
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Posted - 2015.08.23 22:58:57 -
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The Thrasher redesign doesn't look any more Caldari than existing Minmatar ships. Hurricane is angular, oh must be Caldari! Hel and Nidhogg are the same basic shape as Drake. Typhoon looks like Tengu. There is already overlap. It's probably inevitable that there is some perceived overlap since they are both hard-edged races compared to the soft edges of Gallente and Amarr. And vice versa. A lot of Amarr ships are front-heavy like the Magnate and Maller, this is a typically Gallente aesthetic. Amarr also has some shrimp ships like the Inquisitor and Tormentor to go along with Gallente's Ishtar.
The Thrasher redesign looks too junky to be Caldari, I think. It has a lot of greebles on it, which Caldari does not. It also has blocky, angular, and circular shapes. More shape variety than typical for Caldari, aiding in it's junky look.
It also doesn't fit into the bird or I-beam design language of Caldari. Though Minmatar does have some bird-ships (there's that preexisting overlap again), the new Thrasher very much fits into Minmatar's dragons and fish theme. Stabber/Vagabond (dragon), Hurricane (sawfish), various other ships with "fins". The new Thrasher kind of reminds me of the American Gar fish with it's long body and low-slung snout. Then of course the gill-like fins are similar to the Cyclone and current Thrasher. The "head" on the Thrasher redesign also somewhat resembles the "head" on the Maelstrom.
If you want Minmatar to look like a precarious hodgepodge of crap with random wires sticking out, forget it. That era is long over. It came to an end when they introduced the Hurricane. Since then Minmatar ships have been steadily solidifying. Thank goodness. |
Sundial Hakaari
Filthy Peasants
Dramatic Exit.
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Posted - 2015.08.23 23:34:01 -
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While I do like the current Thrasher design I think the new one is a sizable improvement all around. I hope we see even more of this style in future Minmatar design incarnations |
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