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NeoOhm
Caldari
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.24 18:23:00 -
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Edited by: NeoOhm on 24/11/2006 18:28:47
Edited by: NeoOhm on 24/11/2006 18:26:45
Some covards in game ARE using a real game ruining tactic known as logofsky.
As soon as thay are attacked they logoff and get an emergency warp.
Often they still get killed due to lack of hitpoints but often its very close.
Now with added hitpoints to make the battles last longer im afraid it will also make us to get alot less kills due to the added hitpoints will save more logofsky ships.
Any news in how CCP stands to this (should be) exploit?
I hope they fix it cause right now i just feel that we have the most boring enemy ingame, thay logoff as soon as they arent 150% sure of a win.
Thought on this guys and girls?
(i dint want to get and flames now on who do this and so on, im not interested of names just how ccp can solve this)
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Sakura Nihil
Tabula Rasa Systems
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.11.24 18:26:00 -
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Edited by: Sakura Nihil on 24/11/2006 18:27:09
 Originally by: NeoOhm
Some covards in game has started to use a real game ruining tactic known as logofsky.
Welcome to 2 years ago, may I have your coat?
Its not an exploit yet, its a game mechanic that, while lame, is legal at the moment. However, we have video of Oveur saying that they will be changing that mechanic down the line to make it an exploit to logoffski in battle. Just a matter of time before they do it.
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NeoOhm
Caldari
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.24 18:27:00 -
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Edited by: NeoOhm on 24/11/2006 18:28:12
Hope they fix it soon.
I just hate it! :)
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.11.24 18:28:00 -
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They have stated its not a exploit, and how could it be? If someone crashes, how will you know the difference between that and logging off?
So just live with it until they put some feature in to prevent it. They definently know and agree its a problem.
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Anatolius
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.11.24 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: NeoOhm
Thought on this guys and girls?
The fact that EVE is the most (Heaven help me for using this word) carebear game with regard to this is a source of continual amusement.
I fail to see why one should automagically warp away after losing connection and/or sticking it to bougeousis tech 2 owners.
Of course, I'm biased, and get very irritated when I get dropped in the middle of a mission and have to slowboat my way through three bajillion deadspace gates to get back to the poor, innocent NPCs I was blowing up. 
Seriously though, I used to know this guy, he wrote a bunch of books about raising kids, and he also stuck his ears in a toaster. That has nothing to do with it, but he had a quote that's easily applicible to this situation:
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one."
Kladdkaka to the first dev to make disconnection not magically save you.
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.11.24 18:33:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 24/11/2006 18:33:23
Originally by: Sakura Nihil
Edited by: Sakura Nihil on 24/11/2006 18:27:09
Originally by: NeoOhm
Some covards in game has started to use a real game ruining tactic known as logofsky.
Welcome to 2 years ago, may I have your coat?
The main difference is that maybe one year ago a minority did it and now it is very common. Like if there was a big red emergency button in the UI now.
CTD/con-loss vs. regular log-out. A proposal ... |
NeoOhm
Caldari
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.24 18:47:00 -
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Aye, they should make that button more apparent cause, as u say, it IS there.
Och, Kladdkaka kanske Sr l÷sningen ps problemet. De kanske fastnar i den nSr de loggar :)
(Kladkaka may be the solution to the problem, they may be stuck in it when logging)
KLADDKAKA
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Raquel Smith
Caldari
Ferengi Commerce Authority
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Posted - 2006.11.24 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: NeoOhm
Thought on this guys and girls?
Quit your pathetic whining.
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Sir Drake
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Posted - 2006.11.24 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: NeoOhm
Edited by: NeoOhm on 24/11/2006 18:28:47
Any news in how CCP stands to this (should be) exploit?
I hope they fix it cause right now i just feel that we have the most boring enemy ingame, thay logoff as soon as they arent 150% sure of a win.
Thought on this guys and girls?
LOL another PvPer frustrated that he doesnt get his kills.
Its not an exploit its a feature and a nice one for getting rid of the PvPers.
Coward tactic?
Maybe but as long as it safes their ships and frustrates the PvP-hungry with not getting any kill-mails, i would say it works **** well.
If its boring for you why not try some mission running may you like that better. 
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.11.24 18:57:00 -
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Why not just remove weapons? Eve is obviously supposed to be a mining simulation.
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Sir Drake
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Posted - 2006.11.24 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Thor Xian
Why not just remove weapons? Eve is obviously supposed to be a mining simulation.
Nah, just remove the kill mails.
That should get rid of the kill-boards too AND those idiots getting a hardon of their killrate.
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Verus Potestas
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2006.11.24 19:05:00 -
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Dye, Covards!
Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing.
RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy |
ChaosOne
Caldari
DarkStar 1
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.24 19:07:00 -
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personally id like to ship stay in space if you log whilst...
I) warp scrambled
II) In a warp bubble
Logging on in space should also disable your ships offensive modules (perhaps targeting scanners disabled as another option) for 10 mins. If you dont click a thing (like jump cloak) then your un scannable at a 1 mil km safe spot
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NeoOhm
Caldari
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.24 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Drake
Originally by: Thor Xian
Why not just remove weapons? Eve is obviously supposed to be a mining simulation.
Nah, just remove the kill mails.
That should get rid of the kill-boards too AND those idiots getting a hardon of their killrate.
I guess u hate having your name in the killboards as victim.
But anyway, pvping is ONE of the fun things in this game and i for one would not stop pvping if they removed the killmails.
But we are n ot talking about u not liking pvpers, we talking about the misuse of a ingame mecanic, one that is good if u REALY crash.
But now most of the "crashes" are intentional and therfor it must be stoped cause it ruins one part of the game.
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.11.24 19:10:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 24/11/2006 19:10:19
Originally by: Sir Drake
LOL another PvPer frustrated that he doesnt get his kills.
Its not an exploit its a feature and a nice one for getting rid of the PvPers.
Coward tactic?
Maybe but as long as it safes their ships and frustrates the PvP-hungry with not getting any kill-mails, i would say it works **** well.
Thanks for strengthening our point. 
I suppose most devs are pvp'ers themselves and want EVE to be a pvp game and don't think logging off should be used like this, at least they said so.
CTD/con-loss vs. regular log-out. A proposal ... |
Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.24 19:11:00 -
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You know, I actually prefer the sound of "covard" to "cowards"! I may adopt it from now on
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Verus Potestas
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2006.11.24 19:13:00 -
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Any form of aggression against you should reset the aggro timer.
Aggro timer should carry on through jumps.
Logging should not have ANY effect on you apart from initiating the emergency warp: all mods keep running, all effects on you (bubble etc) continue as normal.
Once your timer (1min with no aggression at all, or 15 minutes after last aggressive act against you), you disappear.
Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing.
RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy |
Xendie
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.24 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: NeoOhm
Aye, they should make that button more apparent cause, as u say, it IS there.
Och, Kladdkaka kanske Sr l÷sningen ps problemet. De kanske fastnar i den nSr de loggar :)
(Kladkaka may be the solution to the problem, they may be stuck in it when logging)
KLADDKAKA
kladdkaka e l÷sningen ps hela galaxens problem!
(kladdkaka is the solution to all problems in the galaxy!)
/me goes to get me some
Quote:
Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
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NeoOhm
Caldari
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.24 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Xendie
Originally by: NeoOhm
Aye, they should make that button more apparent cause, as u say, it IS there.
Och, Kladdkaka kanske Sr l÷sningen ps problemet. De kanske fastnar i den nSr de loggar :)
(Kladkaka may be the solution to the problem, they may be stuck in it when logging)
KLADDKAKA
kladdkaka e l÷sningen ps hela galaxens problem!
(kladdkaka is the solution to all problems in the galaxy!)
/me goes to get me some
Haha!
(haha!)
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Sir Drake
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Posted - 2006.11.24 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: NeoOhm
Originally by: Sir Drake
Originally by: Thor Xian
Why not just remove weapons? Eve is obviously supposed to be a mining simulation.
Nah, just remove the kill mails.
That should get rid of the kill-boards too AND those idiots getting a hardon of their killrate.
I guess u hate having your name in the killboards as victim.
But anyway, pvping is ONE of the fun things in this game and i for one would not stop pvping if they removed the killmails.
But we are n ot talking about u not liking pvpers, we talking about the misuse of a ingame mecanic, one that is good if u REALY crash.
But now most of the "crashes" are intentional and therfor it must be stoped cause it ruins one part of the game.
Nope havent been killed for quite some time, im pretty carefull about that.
Fitting WCS, using safespots and of course logging off (especially at gates) helpes me keeping it that way.
Its not that i dont like pvp, its just that i want it to happen on my own terms and not because someone else wants some "fun". (and i do it for the ISK not some bloody killmail or the addrenalin kick)
Having the ctrl+q option balances the carebears pretty nicely vs the gankbears. 
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Brolly
Caldari
The Department of Justice
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Posted - 2006.11.24 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: Verus Potestas
Dye, Covards!
lol
CCP did say at the fanfest they were thinking about a system to put into place to stop log offs.
Personally, I may start logging off in battles in protest to the 10 threads per day we have on the subject. We KNOW what's going on, how it affects people and the games, going on about it does no-one any favours and the constant threads will not change a things 
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Mayoz Miner
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Posted - 2006.11.24 20:31:00 -
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I think you should be able to 'logofsky' at gate camps but nowhere else, but then again if warp to 0 comes it shouldn't be used at all as it wont be needed.
As it is now my rifter (960k SP) lasts about 3-4 seconds tops if I try to get into 0.0.
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Wylker
The Praxis Initiative
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.24 20:37:00 -
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Edited by: Wylker on 24/11/2006 20:39:02
Originally by: Sir Drake
LOL another PvPer frustrated that he doesnt get his kills.
Its not an exploit its a feature and a nice one for getting rid of the PvPers.
Coward tactic?
Maybe but as long as it safes their ships and frustrates the PvP-hungry with not getting any kill-mails, i would say it works **** well.
If its boring for you why not try some mission running may you like that better.
Wow if you had the balls to post with your main I'd add you to my KOS list for saying something stupid like this.
Originally by: "Raquel Smith"
Quit your pathetic whining.
Raquel on the other hand, welcome to the list :)
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Sir Drake
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Posted - 2006.11.24 20:46:00 -
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Edited by: Sir Drake on 24/11/2006 20:50:12
Originally by: Wylker
Wow if you had the balls to post with your main I'd add you to my KOS list for saying something stupid like this.
This is actually my main.
Guess because i never joined a corp you think its an alt.
And i couldnt care less about your KOS list, pretty worthless "threat".
Living in 0.0 everyone except close friends are KOS anyway (or logoffskys )
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Raquel Smith
Caldari
Ferengi Commerce Authority
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Posted - 2006.11.24 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Wylker
Originally by: "Raquel Smith"
Quit your pathetic whining.
Raquel on the other hand, welcome to the list :)
Gee thanks, do I get a prize?
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Miss Overlord
Gallente
Ferrum Pugnus
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Posted - 2006.11.24 21:16:00 -
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will be changing but not just yet
These posts represent my personal views and not those of my corp or alliance. These do not reflect offical alliance or corp views
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Ki An
Gallente
Ghouls
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Posted - 2006.11.24 21:24:00 -
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We're going to need to stop posting about this. The vein in my forehead almost explodes when I read stuff like that posted by the cheating cowards in this thread.
*tries to calm down*
*fails*
Must... gank... in... high-sec...
/Ki
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Ficti0n
FireTech
Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.24 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Raquel Smith
Originally by: NeoOhm
Thought on this guys and girls?
Quit your pathetic whining.
Thats really constructive there...
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