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Blackhole Penetrator	Posted - 2006.11.26 12:34:00 - [1] People how can u support such high price of the TIME CODES... stop to buying them and they go down with the prices ... is common sence isn't it?
R0ME0	Posted - 2006.11.26 12:36:00 - [2] this is spam, stop it. and your incorrect, its called supply and demand, GTC's are actually going up in $$ to purchase now, which reflects part of the pricing, also there is not as many around for sale as there once was, maybe people are spendig there $$ on xmas pressys :P R0ME0, Spelt with number 0, not letter o
Blackhole Penetrator	Posted - 2006.11.26 12:47:00 - [3] Well first of all u prob. don’t know how spam looks like… this is my opinion and we see what others think about it. This is no supply and demand … people increase the price because they can get more out of it and people are stupid and by the time codes for these prices so u can go and tell this …. Next door ok !! … And lastly is not your business what I am writing about so back off if u don’t like it don’t read it
Irwin Gallente The Fated	Posted - 2006.11.26 12:51:00 - [4] And obviously you dont understand what "SALES FORUM" looks like Now lassy go away and let a moderator lock or move this tread. bye bye, miss you Irwin
R0ME0	Posted - 2006.11.26 14:51:00 - [5] Originally by: Blackhole Penetrator Well first of all u prob. donÆt know how spam looks likeà this is my opinion and we see what others think about it. This is no supply and demand à people increase the price because they can get more out of it and people are stupid and by the time codes for these prices so u can go and tell this à. Next door ok !! à And lastly is not your business what I am writing about so back off if u donÆt like it donÆt read it PMSL you noob!!!!! R0ME0, Spelt with number 0, not letter o
Tal Shai	Posted - 2006.11.26 15:12:00 - [6] They are taking the p*** lately though, and its definately not supply and demand either. I sold some to get me started about 3 months ago and the going rate then was 110 @ 30 - 145 @ 50 and 270 for 100 day and what i paid for my GTC's from CCP you can get cheaper NOW from shattered crystal so dont come the crap of theyre more expensive. But a fool and his money are easily parted.
Icorion GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.11.26 15:16:00 - [7] Edited by: Icorion on 26/11/2006 15:16:44 I think you armchair economists out there need to read up on a little concept called "inflation", specifically "hyperinflation". Here's the Wikipedia link for you: Hyperinflation
Unfamed II FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.26 15:18:00 - [8] I got a counter proposal, every big gtc seller, start selling 30d cards at 250m and 90d at 700m. Hope those poor bastards bug off then. Now they can complain, after price rising, they won't even try. Seriously, it's not that great being an amarr, is it?
Tal Shai	Posted - 2006.11.26 15:29:00 - [9] And what makes me laugh my b*****ks of more than anything, all the negative comments the OP has all come from sellers ROFLMAO
Icorion GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.11.26 15:40:00 - [10] Edited by: Icorion on 26/11/2006 15:42:37 Originally by: Tal Shai And what makes me laugh my b*****ks of more than anything, all the negative comments the OP has all come from sellers ROFLMAO Considering the ignorancy and populism being displayed in this thread I don't think it should come as a surprise to anyone that the experts are chiming in with the facts to counter the junk being slung around here. This thread is like a Michael Moore movie, except instead of "corporate America" or "multinationals" we have "GTC sellers". Tal Shai: Perhaps you should also look at the amount of those items available then compared to now. As the demand for GTCs is nearly 100% constant, and it is a direct conversion from real money to ISK, it is the single surest way to measure the value of the ISK compared to the dollar. There is no room for significant or long term price gouging, as GTCs are not a limited resource and available to everyone regardless of their status in the EVE economy.
Tal Shai	Posted - 2006.11.26 15:59:00 - [11] But as a root cause, who has the most isk to waste on GTC's now the average player isnt going to spend 20 days out of a 30 day card to mine to pay for it, people who own the best kit T2 BPO's once established can and have every right to pay whatever they like for GTC's theyre in the best position earning offline, best of both worlds. Then we have the macrominers, selling for RL cash, also buying GTC's as isk is of no object to these people 270 one month 350 the next 425 the next not going to bother those leeches, but its the average player who's getting penalised for the constant hike in price. The best thing that could happen is selling of GTC's had an upper cap or find a way to buy the code through normal ways of CCP, SC
SnakeDeath Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.26 16:01:00 - [12] WHO CARES HOW MUCH THEY COST AT THE END OF THE DAY IF YOU USE THEM YOU ARE PLAYING THE GAME FOR FREEEEEE!!!!!!
Icorion GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.11.26 16:10:00 - [13] Originally by: Tal Shai Then we have the macrominers, selling for RL cash, also buying GTC's as isk is of no object to these people 270 one month 350 the next 425 the next not going to bother those leeches, but its the average player who's getting penalised for the constant hike in price. The best thing that could happen is selling of GTC's had an upper cap or find a way to buy the code through normal ways of CCP, SC Concentration of wealth is a phenomenom that takes place in any free market, the real world included, and the problems you point out are not the fault of the GTC sellers. What we do is not charity, and the facts of the matter are that even if we were running charities and selling below market price, other people would simply buy our cards and sell them for market price...because that's how a free market works. What you propose is furthermore a terrible idea. If CCP started selling GTCs for ISK directly, CCP would simply lose a MASSIVE source of revenue while inflation effectively continued unabated or worse as CCP would find themselves unable to set a proper market price, and GTCs would quickly become far too cheap compared to the actual value of the ISK (compared to the dollar). (Empire) macromining is a laughable source of income and I can assure you that no significant amount of cards is going to them, despite what the average General Discussion sensationalist would have you believe. So, armchair economists, step off. You don't know what you're talking about, literally, and reading the odd General Discussion thread then copying opinions that seem cool/rebellious will not make you any wiser on the subject.
Tal Shai	Posted - 2006.11.26 16:20:00 - [14] I did not say CCP sell for isk i said people are better to find a way to buy them direct from CCP or SC for money. Give me a break empire mining is a fallacy "cough" 5 billion isk 465 dollars 100 mill isk 7.99 you type ISK in google and its worse than being spammed with pron from sellers Sellers are getting greedier, top and bottom of it.
Icorion GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.11.26 16:47:00 - [15] Originally by: Tal Shai Sellers are getting greedier, top and bottom of it. I'm sure your convincing argument there will make a heavy cut into my sales.
Tal Shai	Posted - 2006.11.26 16:53:00 - [16] and its nice to see the REAL you now, no more copy/paste from economics today, wikipedia ..... down to the nuts and bolts hope this doesnt hurt my sales Biatch slapped !!
R0ME0	Posted - 2006.11.26 16:58:00 - [17] Edited by: R0ME0 on 26/11/2006 16:59:37 I do find this all amusing, as said before its a free market, where theres a profit to be made people will make it. As for the isk sellers buying GTC's and selling them, well maybe us Resellers should move the prices upto 500mill for a 90D card, this would mean then that the isk sellers are getting less for there money would it not, in my eye thats a good thing LOL.... Also on a side note, whos to say the old prices where way to under priced? and only now the true value of a GTC is being reconised? R0ME0, Spelt with number 0, not letter o
ammargal Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2006.11.26 17:11:00 - [18] IBTL and go whine in the market discussion channel, this is sell forums KthxBye --- Need a Sig ? ---
Unfamed II FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.26 17:22:00 - [19] The best part of this, the more ppl are willing to pay for GTC's, the less profitable macromining becomes for those ***nese hamsters. Would you buy 100M from ebay, when you can just get a 30d gtc and sell it for 200m? 500M for 90D gtc and I'm happy. Everyone can get a RL job really. And lets look it at this way, I'm very happy spending that odd 10-30usd to get 200-500M isk. Compare to mining, how many hours you would have to do that? 1h of work in RL > 1h work in eve. Seriously, it's not that great being an amarr, is it?

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