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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2011.12.08 02:38:00 -
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Quote:Tippia never agrees with anything, everything he says has to be an opposite to what you say, he never agrees even though he is wrong. I guess its one of those cases where he can only fit in if he complains about something.
As tempting as it may be in this case, I can't agree with you on that one.
Tippia's arguments are usually very well thought out (if sharply put at times). We just happen to be on opposite sides (for the most part) this time around.
I believe that the AURUM currency can be integrated smoothly into EVE, and is likely a large part of the EVE/DUST integration.
Tippia feels it is redundant, and at least EVE would be better off without it.
I can't fault Tippia for feeling that way, at least not until we know more, but at this point I simply don't agree.
We'll both survive. Revenge should not stop at the ship!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
62
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Posted - 2011.12.08 03:36:00 -
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I'd pay aurum for a forum ban for Jade Constantine |
Flamespar
Woof Club
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Posted - 2011.12.08 05:29:00 -
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I think it's funny that some people still don't realise that you can pay to win.
Buy plex -> sell plex -> buy bigger ship than the other guy.
The only difference that EVE has from other Pay to win games, is that players can still use ingame currency to buy the same advantage, it just takes them longer. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2011.12.08 05:39:00 -
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Flamespar wrote:I think it's funny that some people still don't realise that you can pay to win.
Buy plex -> sell plex -> buy bigger ship than the other guy.
The only difference that EVE has from other Pay to win games, is that players can still use ingame currency to buy the same advantage, it just takes them longer.
I know what you are trying to say, but your last sentence invalidates the first one.
Pay to win is simply buying in game advantages that cannot be obtained through normal game play. Think Gold Ammo in WOT. You simply cannot obtain it except by paying real cash for it... and it gives a player a significant advantage.
A very good case CAN be made that the PLEX system is essentially a modified micro transaction system, but MT and pay-to-win are two related but different beasts. You can have micro transactions without it being pay-to-win if those items are also available through regular game play. Revenge should not stop at the ship!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Trainwreck McGee
Ghost Ship Inc.
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Posted - 2011.12.08 05:44:00 -
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i agree with the people that think AURUM is poo poo CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |
Flamespar
Woof Club
105
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Posted - 2011.12.08 05:45:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Flamespar wrote:I think it's funny that some people still don't realise that you can pay to win.
Buy plex -> sell plex -> buy bigger ship than the other guy.
The only difference that EVE has from other Pay to win games, is that players can still use ingame currency to buy the same advantage, it just takes them longer. I know what you are trying to say, but your last sentence invalidates the first one.
No it doesn't. The advantage is that a player can access the advantage quicker than a normal player by paying for it.
Want a new battleship? Grind for a month or get it today - through Plex! I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Igualmentedos
Shadow Veil Industrial Shadow Directive
67
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Posted - 2011.12.08 06:04:00 -
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Katja Norolyev wrote:There should be a lengthy addition to the manufacturing skill tree that allows trained players to pick a skin (L1 and 2. Perhaps 1 is hull color and 2 is glass/lights) and a logo (L3) to be applied to an entire job's worth of ships during the build.
Players should have to take their ship to one of these manufacturers to modify the logo (L4) and skin (L5). Also, make it so that only these players can submit logo designs to CCP (Also L5). Then they'll be able to 'stamp' all their product with their personalized makers' seal of quality.
I already want a Chribba(TM) brand Hulk.
OMG that would rock. If CCP let alliances make personalized ships I would, hug the crap(pg rating) out of the person responsible. |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2011.12.08 10:05:00 -
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Doctor Ungabungas wrote:I'd pay aurum for a forum ban for Jade Constantine
Only way you'll ever come away from a verbal clash with ego intact then buttercup?
I wouldn't even pay Aurum to have goons forced to defend their own sovereignty.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
329
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Posted - 2011.12.08 12:04:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:I'm pretty sure that CCP originally announced that they would be introducing logos on ships long before there was any talk of this AURUM nonsense.
So we should be able to get them for free.
You where able to put logo's on ships during the EVE-Online BETA, 10 years ago.
Daneirkus Auralex wrote: While I agree the NEX sometimes seems like an unnecessary middle step, it currently is what it is.
Thank you, our point exactly. unnecessary steps are something...unnecessary.
And congrats that you like doing what you do and you love your body/avatar. I sure do enjoy my life also. Calling people neckbeards though doesn't exactly smell mature so you should and did get slapped for that. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Toros Revoke
12
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Posted - 2011.12.08 13:50:00 -
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I would like a black paint job for my Archon, and everything else I might want to paint black, or red. |
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I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
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Posted - 2011.12.08 14:44:00 -
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Neural Remaps. ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o )
The world would be a better place if boobies ran the world instead of boobs. |
Daneirkus Auralex
The Foreign Legion Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.08 15:40:00 -
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Ciar Meara wrote: Calling people neckbeards though doesn't exactly smell mature so you should and did get slapped for that.
We're Eve players - we're all neckbeards at heart. No offense intended guys <3<3<3<3 |
Never Learn
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.08 16:39:00 -
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I'd pay Aurum for a "Do not accept Aurum" option. - It's a principles thing. But then again i thought the monocle was a sphincter and crapped on it. |
Xenial Jesse Taalo
Tactical Nyan Cat Attack Force OMNIMODUS ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2011.12.08 17:38:00 -
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+1 this topic. Because the Nex store needs some love once people feel safe it is being used the right way.
What would I definitely pay AUR for?
-+ "Fuel additives" that let us edit our engine trails. They would work like temporary boosters, so they would be cheap to buy and disposable. 200 AUR a pop, good for the masses. Plex buyers would put them on the ISK market. ISK buyers would eat them up cos they're not crazy expensive.
-+ "Fuel additive rigs." Waste a rig slot, or use a spare, no calibration required. Permanent altered engine trail colour on that ship only. Good for scams too. Different colours worth different amounts. Cool because they're still only vanity items. And when a ship with this rig explodes, it explodes in that colour. Damn I love that.
-+ The pre-Crucible Comet skin kthx. And Gallente shuttle.
I haven't scanned the thread but is anyone even suggesting avatar clothing? |
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2011.12.08 17:40:00 -
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So far in this thread Ranger 1 trollin' Jade (most people do)
TIppia being Tippia , which means I read everything he/she/it says with a slight nod and raised eyebrow
And randoms trollin', being trolled and trollin' again in return.
So far, I must say my viewpoints agree 2/3 with Jade and 1/3 with Tippia. For some strange reason as usual, Jade is trying to extrapolate in a logical manner, despite all of his shortcomings and misgivings, but that doesn't make his statements any less true.
The only thing I would love to see is midgets in the store, mostly because we DONT NEED A STORE AT ALL, it's simple. The unsub exodus showed CCP can no longer try to shove down our throats any kind of CRAP they KNOW (and this is the part I hate the most) we NEED, as I have a friend that works in the beautiful yet crappy art of creating stuff we didnt know we needed, and honestly CCP is doing an awful job at even showing us how.
They simply can't or are unable to develop a reason, even a logical fallacy based one , for us to accept any of the changes the Nex store entails, it's an obvious insult to intelligence and in this game, when you swing down the scythe over the chaff, you will know there's a lot of pretty devious and calculating people that can see through the lies pretty pretty good and they disagree totally with the whole idea.
Supporters of the idea have their own reasons to gloat and scream to the skies with their proposals and ways, but in the end it's just another side of the same coin when said coin tarnished a couple months ago, which makes their side even more defaced.
Instead of CCP alts trying to data mine the forums for new directions with threads like these, they really need to get their act together again. The Dark Hairy Hand of EVIL still looms at CCP, and I see its smelly prodding fingers trying still to meddle, not to understand, as IT SHOULD BE, but to veer away the boat in the same fail direction but with a more tactful approach, is so evident you don't need a forum script to collate key words and dump them into a data comparison engine to recognize writing patterns.
Meh
Anyway, keep on , I totally bask in the chaos of this thread !
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Bayushi Tamago
Caldari High Prime P R I M E
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Posted - 2011.12.08 18:03:00 -
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Forget AUR, make it happen as part of standard gameplay |
NickyYo
StarHug Brotherhood of Starbridge
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Posted - 2011.12.08 22:32:00 -
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Flamespar wrote:I think it's funny that some people still don't realise that you can pay to win.
Buy plex -> sell plex -> buy bigger ship than the other guy.
The only difference that EVE has from other Pay to win games, is that players can still use ingame currency to buy the same advantage, it just takes them longer.
No, its different m8. Your buying someone else harned isk in exchange for game time. The MT aspect is create isk out of thin air for who ever buys it, this crashing the PLEX market. |
Giuseppa Wrench
BLACK STUMP AU INC Conquerors of Coffee
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Posted - 2011.12.08 22:43:00 -
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Space panties. |
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