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Skid Lex	Posted - 2006.11.27 15:33:00 - [1] Edited by: Skid Lex on 27/11/2006 15:45:58 I called him a moron as he falled to gate camp my pod. Benzmann 2006.11.27 15:19 i am going to file a petition about you for calling me a moron, cya later
Lanfear's Bane Shih Yang Tong Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.27 15:47:00 - [2] His actions are fully acceptable within game. Yours are not. You don't sound like a particularly nice person and I hope that it teaches you a lesson. Lanfear's Bane. _ _ _
T'Renn Vale Heavy Industries SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.27 15:50:00 - [3] I know you're a new player, and taking losses like this to people like that is difficult early on. I'm sorry that you have a bad taste in your mouth from the userbase that you have encountered thus far in the world of Eve. I can only say that in my experience, Eve has the most intelligent and helpful userbase of any game I have ever played. Don't worry about the petition. Eve is rated "T" for Teen. That means that the term "moron," while it might have hurt the pirate's feelings, is not a petitionable term. Foul language, however, is not welcomed. It doesn't appear that happened here so I wouldn't worry about it. Pirates are a part of the game. Keep in mind, though, that the vast majority of us pirates are congenial and even helpful to new players. Most pirates worth their pods won't pod a newb player flying in a capsule. The sec hit isn't worth it for a player that doesn't likely have any implants, and we'd likely ransom first -- but again, not someone so young. Eve is a vast universe filled with many characters. Some of them are jerks, but keep in mind that the person's behavior who you had a run-in with is not indicative of the rest of us who PvP other players. For instance -- had it been me, I would have checked your employment history and not bothered engaging... in a belt or at a gate. There's a learning curve to all aspects of Eve, and piracy is one of those. Some pirates are unfortunately like the gent you met and spoke of here. However, the vast majority of us are not like that and even try to be helpful. Don't let one experience with a jerk ruin your whole experience in the game.
T'Renn Vale Heavy Industries SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.27 15:52:00 - [4] Originally by: Lanfear's Bane His actions are fully acceptable within game. Yours are not. You don't sound like a particularly nice person and I hope that it teaches you a lesson. Lanfear's Bane. Erm... really? Is that REALLY where you stand on that LB? We're talking about a new player here who is just learning about the Eve universe. I'd expect something a little more thoughtful -- especially out of you. Disappointing.
Riddick06	Posted - 2006.11.27 15:54:00 - [5] Also it might be good if you roleplay a bit, so if a pirate blows up your ship and you want to insult his mother, father dead granny its best to stick amarian/minmatar/gallente/caldarian at the beginning of the sentence.
Lanfear's Bane Shih Yang Tong Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.27 15:57:00 - [6] Edited by: Lanfear''s Bane on 27/11/2006 15:58:33 Originally by: T'Renn Originally by: Lanfear's Bane His actions are fully acceptable within game. Yours are not. You don't sound like a particularly nice person and I hope that it teaches you a lesson. Lanfear's Bane. Erm... really? Is that REALLY where you stand on that LB? We're talking about a new player here who is just learning about the Eve universe. I'd expect something a little more thoughtful -- especially out of you. Disappointing. He sounds self righteous and annoying. If it was 'playful banter' or friendly chat I would agree with him. But he sounds irritating. Note that he has edited his OP to basic details now. Hardly indicative of his 'I'm a hard done by new player' stance. Lanfear's Bane. Edit for spelling. Apparently 'basical' isn't a word. _ _ _
Ash 'Nerov	Posted - 2006.11.27 15:58:00 - [7] Edited by: Ash ''Nerov on 27/11/2006 16:03:03 Edited by: Ash ''Nerov on 27/11/2006 16:00:26 Originally by: Lanfear's Bane His actions are fully acceptable within game. Yours are not. You don't sound like a particularly nice person and I hope that it teaches you a lesson. Lanfear's Bane. Hmm. When one thinks of Eve, it has a reputation of not being friendly to the newer player(s), and it community doesn't not rate high with those who prefer a "care bear" stance. When I read these forums, people moan and groan about players staying in Empire (or whatever it's called) and complain that people are "care bear"ish. I am only here because of revelations - if it sucks (and CCP couldn't have picked a worse day, Blizzard is releasing a game changing patch on the same day) I am going back to WoW. But you know what - in WoW I can call people morons. Most laugh it off and come back with a retort that I generally find amusing while providing a chuckle. Point is - if you can't gate camp a POD (October Snow) then you should probally rethink the role you play in the game. I can take my losses, with grace. But if you jut suck at it - expect a retort. My spelling sucks - typing in the dark; but my edit from the original post is foudn here. If eve wants more players (and I assume CCP does based on the patch) the cheap shots have to stop. When I say that - I mean on the player level. Posted on wrong toon,cry.
Benzmann OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:04:00 - [8] hahahaha, well thats how i play m8, if some1 says something offensive to me i will petition them
Spiltblood	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:06:00 - [9] Originally by: Ash 'Nerov Edited by: Ash ''Nerov on 27/11/2006 16:03:03 Edited by: Ash ''Nerov on 27/11/2006 16:00:26 Originally by: Lanfear's Bane His actions are fully acceptable within game. Yours are not. You don't sound like a particularly nice person and I hope that it teaches you a lesson. Lanfear's Bane. But you know what - in WoW I can call people morons. Most laugh it off and come back with a retort that I generally find amusing while providing a chuckle. Hmm interesting, last time i played WoW, you couldn't talk to the other faction..not logically anyway as it would come up garbled. Unless your using l33t speak or....you have a cheat maybe? Tisk tisk...
Ash 'Nerov	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:09:00 - [10] Edited by: Ash ''Nerov on 27/11/2006 16:10:00 dbl post
Ash 'Nerov	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:10:00 - [11] Originally by: Spiltblood Originally by: Ash 'Nerov Edited by: Ash ''Nerov on 27/11/2006 16:03:03 Edited by: Ash ''Nerov on 27/11/2006 16:00:26 Originally by: Lanfear's Bane His actions are fully acceptable within game. Yours are not. You don't sound like a particularly nice person and I hope that it teaches you a lesson. Lanfear's Bane. But you know what - in WoW I can call people morons. Most laugh it off and come back with a retort that I generally find amusing while providing a chuckle. Hmm interesting, last time i played WoW, you couldn't talk to the other faction..not logically anyway as it would come up garbled. Unless your using l33t speak or....you have a cheat maybe? Tisk tisk... I w i s h I w a s a w i z a r d. Or you could mind control them.
Ash 'Nerov	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:11:00 - [12] Edited by: Ash ''Nerov on 27/11/2006 16:10:48 Originally by: Benzmann hahahaha, well thats how i play m8, if some1 says something offensive to me i will petition them Go back to agent missions.
Miss Tresss	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:12:00 - [13] I really can't believe what I'm reading. If you sit around killing noob pods you've got to expect them to say much worse than moron. And if you find the word moron so morally reprehensible that you would petition it you are a moron.
T'Renn Vale Heavy Industries SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:13:00 - [14] Originally by: Ash 'Nerov Hmm. When one thinks of Eve, it has a reputation of not being friendly to the newer player(s), and it community doesn't not rate high with those who prefer a "care bear" stance. No - that's apparently what you think of when YOU think of Eve. People who have stuck around for a while know that while there are some bad apples, the user community is as a whole VERY helpful and welcoming to new players. Originally by: Ash 'Nerov When I read these forums, people moan and groan about players staying in Empire (or whatever it's called) and complain that people are "care bear"ish. Again, you're generalizing here, and what you probably mean is that they "moan and groan" about players being in low-sec. This is mainly done by pirates who lack the patience to wait for worthwhile targets in my humble opinion. Originally by: Ash 'Nerov (blah blah blah) I am going back to WoW. But you know what - in WoW I can call people morons. Most laugh it off and come back with a retort that I generally find amusing while providing a chuckle. Feel free to call me a moron in game all you want. In turn, I will feel free to say something funny in return. You're basically saying that WoW players are better than Eve players. I can't speak to that since I've never played WoW. My sisters do play that game though, and from what I've gleaned of it there's not a whole lot of thought involved in it so it's not for me. We get a lot of "I'm going back to WoW" types once they realize that they can't win Eve in 15 minutes. I hope you're not one of those types. Originally by: Ash 'Nerov I can take my losses, with grace. But if you jut suck at it - expect a retort. I'm sorry, but I don't see it that way. I was really cool with you for a bit here, but then you started with the whole "I'm going back to WoW" bit. PROTIP: If you want to go back to WoW, go, but don't hold it over CCP's head and expect them to care that you're leaving because you're not willing to invest the time in the game that it takes to be proficient. I guess that's all I have to say on the matter. I feel bad for even trying to help. I fear LB was right after all.
Sendraks TOHA Heavy Industries	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:13:00 - [15] Originally by: Ash 'Nerov But you know what - in WoW I can call people morons. Most laugh it off and come back with a retort that I generally find amusing while providing a chuckle. Sounds to me like "banter" between friends, rather than an insult directed at another person. You can be reported and punished for insulting people in WoW as well. I don't stand for people insulting me, whatever game I play, and I will gleefully write a GM ticket if someone is stupid enough to resort to such behaviour. Its not that I can't take an insult, its just that in the gaming environment I don't have to. Originally by: Ash 'Nerov Point is - if you can't gate camp a POD (October Snow) then you should probally rethink the role you play in the game. Whether a person can or can't camp a pod does not mean someone is justified in insulting another player. Originally by: Ash 'Nerov I can take my losses, with grace. But if you jut suck at it - expect a retort. In return, expect to be petitioned. Just because someone supposedly "sucks" at a game does not mean you are free to insult them. Originally by: Ash 'Nerov If eve wants more players (and I assume CCP does based on the patch) the cheap shots have to stop. When I say that - I mean on the player level. Eve would be better off with stopping whiny players who come to the forums everytime they lose a ship to an "ebil piwat."
Miss Tresss	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:16:00 - [16] Edited by: Miss Tresss on 27/11/2006 16:15:57 Quote: Eve would be better off with stopping whiny players who come to the forums everytime they lose a ship to an "ebil piwat." He came here because he was petitioned for calling the guy a moron. My god I wanna call so many people in this thread the dreaded m word my heads about to explode.
ASIV TRE Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:23:00 - [17] To be honest I hope the GM told him where to go. If all the OP did was call him a moron its hardly worth wasting a GM's time on something like this. Maybe if he had sworn or threatened him fair enough, but being called a moron is hardly petetion worthy.
Sendraks TOHA Heavy Industries	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:25:00 - [18] Originally by: Miss Tresss He came here because he was petitioned for calling the guy a moron. He called the pirate a moron because said pirate failed to gate camp his pod. I would infer from this that he lost his ship to said pirate (or at least "a" pirate) and then chose to engage in some insulting to soothe his ego following his loss. Originally by: Miss Tresss My god I wanna call so many people in this thread the dreaded m word my heads about to explode. Don't explode your head or call yourself a moron, it'll be messy and unnecessarily demeaning to yourself.
Lanfear's Bane Shih Yang Tong Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:27:00 - [19] Originally by: T'Renn I fear LB was right after all. Nothing to fear dude, it's all good. I know deep down you still love me. And contrary to my grumpy and scathing nature, I actually take ship losses well. It's all part of the game. I'm just not very tolerant of the general public. Lanfear's Bane. _ _ _
Ash 'Nerov	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:29:00 - [20] Edited by: Ash ''Nerov on 27/11/2006 16:30:21 Originally by: T'Renn No - that's apparently what you think of when YOU think of Eve. People who have stuck around for a while know that while there are some bad apples, the user community is as a whole VERY helpful and welcoming to new players. No there is a website dedicated to MMO's. Feel free to use google to look it up. As for people who have stuck around for awhile, I won't get into numbers. Originally by: T'Renn Again, you're generalizing here, and what you probably mean is that they "moan and groan" about players being in low-sec. This is mainly done by pirates who lack the patience to wait for worthwhile targets in my humble opinion. These forums are a gateway between the game and potential players, you need to learn this. Originally by: T'Renn (blah blah blah) I am going back to WoW. Again you are shortsighted, level up your Sharp Shooter and come talk to me. Originally by: T'Renn Feel free to call me a moron in game all you want. In turn, I will feel free to say something funny in return. You're basically saying that WoW players are better than Eve players. I can't speak to that since I've never played WoW. My sisters do play that game though, and from what I've gleaned of it there's not a whole lot of thought involved in it so it's not for me. Well, this statement is contradicting - first you accusse me of being better thatn you for playing wow (don't see where I typed that) then you finish it off by implying you are better than me for playing Eve. Point is, I don't care. In PvP - there is thension, "smacktalk" and what have you -don't be a wuss about it and report it. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen applies here. Originally by: T'Renn I'm sorry, but I don't see it that way. I was really cool with you for a bit here, but then you started with the whole "I'm going back to WoW" bit. PROTIP: If you want to go back to WoW, go, but don't hold it over CCP's head and expect them to care that you're leaving because you're not willing to invest the time in the game that it takes to be proficient. Sure, I will go back to WoW. It's bang for the buck - eve has never provided me with that - why do I want to spend months doing nothing (spenidn Money as well) when I could get another game and jump right in. Myabe if CCP implemented a web interface so I could change / start skill traing from my browswer - they maybe. I don't have time nor the interest to do the same Agent mission over and over and over and over and over nad over and over and over to get to a point where I am "worthy" of a corp, or hell - comparable to other players Originally by: T'Renn I guess that's all I have to say on the matter. I feel bad for even trying to help. I fear LB was right after all. I guess so.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:33:00 - [21] Smacktalk does not imply personal attacks, which are specifically prohibited by the Terms of Service. -[23] Member- Awesome new space games site, from the editor of E-ON!
T'Renn Vale Heavy Industries SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:33:00 - [22] okay great - we've established that you're leaving. Can I have your stuff?
Ash 'Nerov	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:37:00 - [23] Originally by: Sendraks Originally by: Miss Tresss He came here because he was petitioned for calling the guy a moron. He called the pirate a moron because said pirate failed to gate camp his pod. I would infer from this that he lost his ship to said pirate (or at least "a" pirate) and then chose to engage in some insulting to soothe his ego following his loss. I lost my ship to NPC rats - I was warping to the locale of my nearest rifer - 3 systems into transit - he attempt to gate camp me and failed.
Miss Tresss	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:37:00 - [24] Despite your like/dislike for the original poster. You are all actually saying that ccp should be wasting their time looking at petitions everytime someone is called moron/idiot/imbecile ingame? Is this is a joke post and I'm being suckered in
Ash 'Nerov	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:39:00 - [25] Originally by: T'Renn okay great - we've established that you're leaving. Can I have your stuff? Revalations will establish that sweetheart.
Kage Getsu Lordless	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:40:00 - [26] Pods can be the hardest things to catch, and are the most worthless to kill. _________________________________________________________
Lanfear's Bane Shih Yang Tong Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:43:00 - [27] Originally by: Kage Getsu Pods can be the hardest things to catch, and are the most worthless to kill. But also the most satisfying. Lanfear's Bane. _ _ _
Sendraks TOHA Heavy Industries	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:44:00 - [28] Originally by: Ash 'Nerov I lost my ship to NPC rats - I was warping to the locale of my nearest rifer - 3 systems into transit - he attempt to gate camp me and failed. Ok, so you lost your ship to NPC rats and decided to make yourself feel better by insulting the pirate who failed to catch you in your pod. My question is? Were you using instas to travel or did this guy actually fail to camp you while you were slowboating to a gate in your pod? Now I'm not still not justifying your use of language (because there is no justification), I'm just trying to see how much of a basis there was for your actions.
Alex Logan Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:47:00 - [29] Lanfear, i lub joo and all... But when you started this game you were the biggest smack talker in Amamake, if not all of eve
Ash 'Nerov	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:47:00 - [30] Originally by: Sendraks Originally by: Ash 'Nerov I lost my ship to NPC rats - I was warping to the locale of my nearest rifer - 3 systems into transit - he attempt to gate camp me and failed. Ok, so you lost your ship to NPC rats and decided to make yourself feel better by insulting the pirate who failed to catch you in your pod. My question is? Were you using instas to travel or did this guy actually fail to camp you while you were slowboating to a gate in your pod? Now I'm not still not justifying your use of language (because there is no justification), I'm just trying to see how much of a basis there was for your actions. I was alt tabbed out reading CNN .com. Instas - hmm - sorry - they are what?

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