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Drommy Gallente Necromongers Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.27 19:01:00 - [1] Edited by: Drommy on 27/11/2006 19:16:06 here is a post of my petetion and the answers i recieved: subject: concordonked for shooting a war targets can can was flagged to me and had the war target star, shot at it to disrupt there operations and concod destroyed my lachesis. happened in alikara vii - 1. will submit bug report also reply : Hi Drommy, Thank you for contacting EVE Online customer support and I deeply apologize for the late reply. According to our log, you attacked a container belongs to Scorn. corporation and it was not at war with your corporation. Best Regards, GM Hector The EVE Online Customer Support Team new message from me: hi i belive your looking at the wrong date, this was the 19/11/06, i have kept the game logs here is a paste -------------------------------------------------- ---------- Gamelog Listener: Drommy Session started: 2006.11.19 20:19:58 -------------------------------------------------- ---------- [ 2006.11.19 20:20:14 ] (notify) Warping to TAV test range 1 [ 2006.11.19 20:20:50 ] (notify) For initiating combat your security status has been adjusted by -0.1000. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:50 ] (notify) Drommy: You have foolishly engaged in criminal activity within sight of sentry guns and must suffer the consequences. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:52 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Caldari Sentry Gun III barely scratches you, causing 78.5 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:52 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Caldari Sentry Gun II aims well at you, inflicting 157.4 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:52 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Caldari Sentry Gun II lightly hits you, doing 107.9 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:52 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Caldari Sentry Gun III places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 214.3 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:52 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Caldari Sentry Gun I places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 197.9 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:52 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Caldari Sentry Gun I aims well at you, inflicting 157.6 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:54 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Caldari Sentry Gun III aims well at you, inflicting 174.3 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:54 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Caldari Sentry Gun II places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 238.7 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:54 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Caldari Sentry Gun II places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 193.3 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:54 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Caldari Sentry Gun III aims well at you, inflicting 137.5 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:54 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Caldari Sentry Gun I aims well at you, inflicting 162.7 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:54 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Caldari Sentry Gun I aims well at you, inflicting 144.2 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:55 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Thunderbolt Heavy Missile hits TAV test range 1 [TEV], doing 179.4 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:55 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Thunderbolt Heavy Missile hits TAV test range 1 [TEV], doing 179.4 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:55 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Thunderbolt Heavy Missile hits TAV test range 1 [TEV], doing 179.4 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:56 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Caldari Sentry Gun III aims well at you, inflicting 138.1 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:56 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Caldari Sentry Gun II hits you, doing 117.2 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:56 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Caldari Sentry Gun II lightly hits you, doing 91.1 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:56 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Caldari Sentry Gun III hits you, doing 108.1 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:56 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Caldari Sentry Gun I barely scratches you, causing 81.1 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:56 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Caldari Sentry Gun I strikes you perfectly, wrecking for 730.4 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:57 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Caldari Sentry Gun III places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 411.2 damage. Till UnderVerse come Necromongers inc.
Drommy Gallente Necromongers Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.27 19:04:00 - [2] reply : Hi. I'm afraid that I can only repeat what GM Hector has allready said, you did attack a container belonging to a corporation that was not at war with you and that did trigger the Concord response. Best regards GM Panic EVE Online Customer Support my message: i am sorry hector but shot at a war targets can, ive even given you the logs. if your logs show i shot at someone elses can then why do they differ, i lost intotal about 80mil's worth of stuff and am not happy atall so far with the help given to me by the eve team. the logs i have clearly show the ticker of the people im at war with. the can was red and had the war star on it. if your logs show different then either your logs are wrong or i was experiencing a bugged client, neither of which are my fualt and i should NOT have to pay for ccp's mistakes. if you can no longer help m then i would like to take this further as i seem to be being mistreated as a client as this is the 3rd out of 3 petitions that ive been fobbed off about and im getting fed up. yours (and very upset) drommy now does anyone else that thats just F**d up. and i really dont apreciate being called a liar. now i understand that there logs may say one thing, but mine say something completely different so they have a problem either way, either there wrong, or the game was bugged to the max anyone else ever encountered this kinda thing or do the gm's just want me to leave cos i greif people too much? Till UnderVerse come** Necromongers inc.
fear factor Gallente DarkSide Inc	Posted - 2006.11.27 19:27:00 - [3] Well i know how u feel drommy somethink like that happend to me few months back got the same answer it is like they don't want to give it back to u as they know they that your right but they don't want to say it so they just say no sorry that is it. i think it is on the gm too some are like ok and some can be f***** about it.
Jet Collins Dynamic Endeavors	Posted - 2006.11.27 19:29:00 - [4] Edited by: Jet Collins on 27/11/2006 19:34:15 Edited by: Jet Collins on 27/11/2006 19:32:28 where does your log show you where right? Doesn;t say what you where attackign except that you attacked somethig you shouldn't have. Also whey did you attack and not run away once the sentury guns started attacking you? Also your missing the shot which iniciated the attack on you. PS posting what GM's say is bad. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:14 ] (notify) Warping to TAV test range 1 [ 2006.11.19 20:20:50 ] (notify) For initiating combat your security status has been adjusted by -0.1000. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:50 ] (notify) Drommy: You have foolishly engaged in criminal activity within sight of sentry guns and must suffer the consequences. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:52 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Caldari Sentry Gun III barely scratches you, causing 78.5 damage. My thinking is that something is missing from this log which is the shot you took that caused you to get crimally flaged.
Drommy Gallente Necromongers Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.27 19:33:00 - [5] [ 2006.11.19 20:20:55 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Thunderbolt Heavy Missile hits TAV test range 1 [TEV], doing 179.4 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:55 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Thunderbolt Heavy Missile hits TAV test range 1 [TEV], doing 179.4 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:55 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Thunderbolt Heavy Missile hits TAV test range 1 [TEV], what i shot at Till UnderVerse come Necromongers inc.
Jet Collins Dynamic Endeavors	Posted - 2006.11.27 19:35:00 - [6] Edited by: Jet Collins on 27/11/2006 19:36:25 Originally by: Drommy [ 2006.11.19 20:20:55 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Thunderbolt Heavy Missile hits TAV test range 1 [TEV], doing 179.4 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:55 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Thunderbolt Heavy Missile hits TAV test range 1 [TEV], doing 179.4 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:55 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Thunderbolt Heavy Missile hits TAV test range 1 [TEV], what i shot at Those shots are after this notification. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:50 ] (notify) For initiating combat your security status has been adjusted by -0.1000. what did you do before this. Log please with no edits
Drommy Gallente Necromongers Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.27 22:10:00 - [7] Originally by: Jet Collins Edited by: Jet Collins on 27/11/2006 19:36:25 Originally by: Drommy [ 2006.11.19 20:20:55 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Thunderbolt Heavy Missile hits TAV test range 1 [TEV], doing 179.4 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:55 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Thunderbolt Heavy Missile hits TAV test range 1 [TEV], doing 179.4 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:55 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Thunderbolt Heavy Missile hits TAV test range 1 [TEV], what i shot at ofcourse there after, i fired missiles and i havent edited it give me somewhere to actually send the log file to and then the gms can see it in all its glory Those shots are after this notification. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:50 ] (notify) For initiating combat your security status has been adjusted by -0.1000. what did you do before this. Log please with no edits Till UnderVerse come Necromongers inc.
Nerdalus Minmatar Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.11.28 01:32:00 - [8] Originally by: Jet Collins Edited by: Jet Collins on 27/11/2006 19:36:25 Originally by: Drommy [ 2006.11.19 20:20:55 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Thunderbolt Heavy Missile hits TAV test range 1 [TEV], doing 179.4 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:55 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Thunderbolt Heavy Missile hits TAV test range 1 [TEV], doing 179.4 damage. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:55 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Thunderbolt Heavy Missile hits TAV test range 1 [TEV], what i shot at Those shots are after this notification. [ 2006.11.19 20:20:50 ] (notify) For initiating combat your security status has been adjusted by -0.1000. what did you do before this. Log please with no edits The accuracy of the time stamps in logs is another issue CCP need to fix. I freguently check my log for what damage i am doing, and time after time i see i have inflicted damage on a ship after it has exploded. This reimbursment should have been approved by CCP, its quite lame that you work to get good mods, and when you do you lose them to a stupid bug. What even makes this worse is that CP know that there is an issue with concord being trigger happy, yet they don't seem to do anything about it/ It sucks mate and i would keep pushing till you get this sorted.
Altaree Gallente Red Frog Investments Daikoku Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.29 04:36:00 - [9] IBTL! Fix The Web Servers
Altaree Gallente Red Frog Investments Daikoku Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.29 04:36:00 - [10] IBTL! Fix The Web Servers
Vizgoth	Posted - 2006.11.29 04:46:00 - [11] Where in that log says Concord attacked you? Sentry guns are not Concord and do not follow the same rules as Concord. The only time sentry guns will not attack you is if you are attacked first.
Vizgoth	Posted - 2006.11.29 04:46:00 - [12] Where in that log says Concord attacked you? Sentry guns are not Concord and do not follow the same rules as Concord. The only time sentry guns will not attack you is if you are attacked first.

Santiago Cortes Caldari Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.11.29 05:03:00 - [13] Locked Please do not post correspondence with GMs on the forums, if you have issues with the decision to your petition please ask for it to be escalated. forum rules \| [email protected]


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