The in-game recruitment channel is the bottom of the barrel of recruitment options.

Instead of ranting here on the forums, why didn't you use this time to help that new pilot find one of the better resources?

I wonder what the current conversion rate of trial accounts to paying accounts is.....it can not be good.

Ccp rise has a thread over in features and ideas for where you should repost this.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=432569&find=unread

I used my time to point this glaring issue out to the public, if you had nothing constructive to say why did you even post?

More and more I get to wonder if we shouldn't just point out that there's dozens of thousands of players who did not have the issues so many whine about........ did not need hand holding ........ and made it all by themwelves somehow. Makes you wonder what's different to them compared to those who can't make it, doesn't it?

So how many countless thousands do you see logged in day in day out? Especially new guys and not 10 years vets?

the reason for the decline in numbers is nothing to do with the title of this thread imo.

If new player experience was great it would make up for the the exodus of bitter vets and others... but I see fanboys refuse to see the issue.

More and more I get to wonder if we shouldn't just point out that there's dozens of thousands of players who did not have the issues so many whine about........ did not need hand holding ........ and made it all by themwelves somehow. Makes you wonder what's different to them compared to those who can't make it, doesn't it?

so you're solution to the whole issue is give people 800k sp? dont you just think that this game is not a themepark game and actually requires a bit of thought and concentration which is what alot of people dont want?

Are you a moron? By your very own account, it was easy for you to find a corp at 900k sp, the game used to have professions that actually gave you around 800k sp head start....

Jesus Christ even if the urge to troll is that strong at least do not make a fool out of yourself by contradicting withing minutes the very thing you said.

Oh wait you are Tri, mk V or VI is it? Explains everything! Now please ISD lock this since I have to realize that any discussion in EvE is pointless at least in GD and only serves the trolls.

Why does everyone has such a hard on for newbros?

The new player experience has been terrible garbage for over 12 YEARS. SOMEHOW THE GAME STILL IS ALIVE.


Blow up the newbros. Scam the newbros. Give them a proper EvE experience, if they stay, this is the game for them.

I'm an actual new player, started 4 weeks'ish ago. I've never played before and I can provide my point of view of the new player experience....

Within 2 hours of being online a GM contacted me via in game chat and made sure I was OK and that if I had any questions to fire them off. He remained with me for about 30 mins. Told me about the recruitment tab/ channels along with the career agents.
He was extremely helpful and something I've never seen before in any online game I've played.

Starting off in the middle of space was a OMGWT# do I do moment and if it wasn't for the GM I may not have subbed (which I've now done).

With regards to making ISK it seems good with the level of skills I have with which I can fly and the type of space I'm flying in at the moment, it scales IMO very well. I'm stealing cargo, salvaging wrecks, doing the odd missions along with some scanning.

Being recruited wasn't really an issue either, the GM pointed me in the direction of corps that were noob friendly too and who would accept a starter char.

I fully understand that the big corps dont want new players as they dont have time or the inclination to train and teach me what to do and that's just fine.

I would say one negative thing however about the new player experience is that the starting isk wasn't enough, the tutorial missions gave me ships and a couple of guns with some ammo but this wasn't nearly enough to cut my teeth into anything. The starter amount should be increased as as far as im aware its been the same since the game started and everything since then costs more?

Thanks for reading.

You get several million from the starter missions plus free ships.


Back when I started alI got was an ibis, 5000 isk and aura laughed at me when I died and called me a clumsy pilot.

So how many countless thousands do you see logged in day in day out? Especially new guys and not 10 years vets?

But hey lets pretend everything is ok and plant our heads in the dirt....
Thousands upon thousands of new people subscribe every day, problem is they do not subscribe to EvE.

Just some total no-brainer things that could be easily improved.

More and more I get to wonder if we shouldn't just point out that there's dozens of thousands of players who did not have the issues so many whine about........ did not need hand holding ........ and made it all by themwelves somehow. Makes you wonder what's different to them compared to those who can't make it, doesn't it?

That being said, "EVE" needs the "RIGHT KINDS" of new player. Players with a sense of adventure, players who aren't looking for some angle to play the 'victim', players who are self starters and self motivators, who have a sense of personal responsibility rather than a sense of false entitlement. And players who are patient and mature rather than the stock immaturity and need for instant gratification of the majority of gamers.

Actually, EVE needs many types of new players, not just ones that play your way. You guys wouldn't even have any fun if you didn't have any victims. If EVE were filled with your "right kind" of players, it would be stagnant and boring. Someone needs to fall for the scams, someone needs to go mental when they get blown up, and someone needs to blingfit a rattlesnake with 20 plex thinking that's OK.

So somebody asks to be recruited and with nobody immediately responding it means "EVE doesn't want new players"?

Do you want to play a game with somebody that easily disheartened? Who gives up that fast? What happens when you explain a mistake to a guy like that? Or you lose a fight?

If you want a new job, post it on LI and nobody calls you within 30 min, are you then permanently unemployed forever because nobody wants you?

IAMA NOOB Ask Me Anything

If i got the translation right

Ccp rise has a thread over in features and ideas for where you should repost this.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=432569&find=unread

Survivorship bias, or survival bias, is the logical error of concentrating on the people or things that "survived" some process and inadvertently overlooking those that did not because of their lack of visibility.

It can also lead to the false belief that the successes in a group have some special property, rather than just coincidence

In your opinion, of course.

Definitely not a fact.

Today I was lurking in the recruitment chat and found a new guy asking around for a noob friendly corp, after some minutes, probably half an hour, he asked if this game hated new players since seemingly no one wanted to recruit him and all the people responding told him went to tell him to "sit it out " and wait a month or two.....even keeping in mind he was trolling is this for real?

Throw a million darts over your shoulder and some of them will hit the board.

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