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Whitethorn	Posted - 2006.11.30 13:42:00 - [31] Edited by: Whitethorn on 30/11/2006 13:45:12 Thanks for the list, Tripoli Originally by: Slickster your right and i had noticed that as well on , when buying my new skills .. On the market amar and gallente encrption skills are not listed at all P.s thx for the skill list tripoli it helped verify i had all the skills i could currently learn / get hold off for now It has been the case for the last year (since they were released under the pirate faction names) that only two of the four encryption methods skill packs have been listed on the market. The same applies to two of the four technology skill books. IIRC, the two pairs released with the first phase of cosmos are visible on the market, the two pairs released with the second phase of cosmos aren't (but may have that reversed).
Yosoko Caldari Raging Phoenix Incorporated	Posted - 2006.11.30 18:13:00 - [32] Thank for doing this post. It saved me from having to do the same. One thing that I noticed was the requirements for the lower quality ore processing skills. They have been changed to Refining 4 & Science 3. I have an alt that is training these skills and she only has level 4 refining. I listed the updates below. - Plagioclase Processing - Requires Refining 4 & Science 3 - Pyrixeres Processing - Requires Refining 4 & Science 3 - Scordite Processing - Requires Refining 4 & Science 3 - Veldspar Processing - Requires Refining 4 & Science 3 -Yosoko
Fenris Wolfe Blazing Saddles	Posted - 2006.11.30 18:46:00 - [33] Originally by: Slickster your right and i had noticed that as well on , when buying my new skills .. On the market amarr and gallente encrption skills are not listed at all And these skills are REQUIRED for invention... For example: utilizing invention on a Capacitor Power Relay BP *requires* the "Amarr Encryption" skill to be in your head. Invention 4tw! Not having the tools coded in for anyone to use 4tl!
Eewec Ourbyni Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.30 19:24:00 - [34] Edited by: Eewec Ourbyni on 30/11/2006 19:25:26 Originally by: Yupperdeyup Edited by: Yupperdeyup on 30/11/2006 08:10:36 excellent work tripoly Pyrixeres Processing - Requires Refining 5 & Science 3 should be Pyroxeres To my knowlegde Biology allways needed science 1 as requirement http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/skillsaccessories/skills/science/3405.asp And wing command allready existed? http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/skillsaccessories/skills/leadership/11574.asp I have allready some database numbers (typeid's) Once you have trained a skill it will appear on the XML file from the online character data. It is used by many programs e.g. Evemon and the even better Eve Character Manger from Future Falcon Enterprises. They need the numbers to create new skillfiles. (btw - they allso need the exact descrpition of the skill, all the requirements and the bonus) Armor Rigging - 26253 Astronautics Rigging - 26254 Drones Rigging - 26255 Electronic Superiority Rigging - 26256 Energy Weapon Rigging - 26258 Hybrid Weapon Rigging - 26259 Jury Rigging - 26252 Launcher Rigging - 26260 Projectile Weapon Rigging - 26257 Shield Rigging - 26261 Astrometric Triangulation - 25811 Hopefully people can add the new skill items numbers (typeid's). Just a note, but the new db drop is slated for wednesday - thursday next week some time. However in the spirit of things: + <skill typeName="Jury Rigging" typeID="26252"> <groupID>269</groupID> <rank>2</rank> <skilllevel1>500</skilllevel1> <skilllevel2>2829</skilllevel2> <skilllevel3>16000</skilllevel3> <skilllevel4>90510</skilllevel4> <skilllevel5>512000</skilllevel5> </skill> + <skill typeName="Salvaging" typeID="25863"> <groupID>269</groupID> <rank>3</rank> <skilllevel1>750</skilllevel1> <skilllevel2>4243</skilllevel2> <skilllevel3>24000</skilllevel3> <skilllevel4>135765</skilllevel4> <skilllevel5>768000</skilllevel5> </skill> + <skill typeName="Heavy Assault Missiles" typeID="25719"> <groupID>256</groupID> <rank>3</rank> <skilllevel1>750</skilllevel1> <skilllevel2>4243</skilllevel2> <skilllevel3>24000</skilllevel3> <skilllevel4>135765</skilllevel4> <skilllevel5>768000</skilllevel5> </skill> + <skill typeName="Biology" typeID="3405"> <groupID>270</groupID> <rank>1</rank> <skilllevel1>250</skilllevel1> <skilllevel2>1415</skilllevel2> <skilllevel3>8000</skilllevel3> <skilllevel4>45255</skilllevel4> <skilllevel5>256000</skilllevel5> </skill> + <skill typeName="Signal Acquisition" typeID="25739"> <groupID>270</groupID> <rank>8</rank> <skilllevel1>2000</skilllevel1> <skilllevel2>11314</skilllevel2> <skilllevel3>64000</skilllevel3> <skilllevel4>362039</skilllevel4> <skilllevel5>2048000</skilllevel5> </skill> + <skill typeName="Contracting" typeID="25235"> <groupID>274</groupID> <rank>1</rank> <skilllevel1>250</skilllevel1> <skilllevel2>1415</skilllevel2> <skilllevel3>8000</skilllevel3> <skilllevel4>45255</skilllevel4> <skilllevel5>256000</skilllevel5> </skill> This is a sig... -- You think this guys post is nuts.... you should see his bio -- ... good, ain't it!
Zwaplat Caldari Galactic Production Dynamics	Posted - 2006.11.30 21:18:00 - [35] Ice Processing prereqs have been changed too, afaik. It's ridiculous what you need now. Hydromagnetics at lvl 4, and that's a skill which you need to do research on shields...what's one got to do with the other anyway ? Quote: -Ghoest- The danger in 0.0 should be pirates coming up on you while you are doing stuff, not pirates killing you everytime you knock on the door.
Tripoli XenTech	Posted - 2006.12.01 00:54:00 - [36] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Originally by: Tripoli Sure. Training Empathy 5 would pay off after about three months of training with Charisma. you gonna have to reedit the learning skill sticky ; ) I did that a week ago. --- 315 of 341 skills trained.
Tripoli XenTech	Posted - 2006.12.01 00:58:00 - [37] Originally by: Yupperdeyup Edited by: Yupperdeyup on 30/11/2006 08:10:36 excellent work tripoly Pyrixeres Processing - Requires Refining 5 & Science 3 should be Pyroxeres To my knowlegde Biology allways needed science 1 as requirement http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/skillsaccessories/skills/science/3405.asp And wing command allready existed? http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/skillsaccessories/skills/leadership/11574.asp Misspellings are my punishment for making that list at 2 in the morning. Yes, Biology always needed Science level 1; however, it wasn't available accept at creation before. Now it's sold by NPCs. Wing Command did not exist before, though it was listed on the market. Believe me....I check the market every day for skills that are listed, but not for sale. --- 315 of 341 skills trained.
Tripoli XenTech	Posted - 2006.12.01 01:01:00 - [38] Originally by: Yosoko One thing that I noticed was the requirements for the lower quality ore processing skills. They have been changed to Refining 4 & Science 3. I have an alt that is training these skills and she only has level 4 refining. I listed the updates below. - Plagioclase Processing - Requires Refining 4 & Science 3 - Pyrixeres Processing - Requires Refining 4 & Science 3 - Scordite Processing - Requires Refining 4 & Science 3 - Veldspar Processing - Requires Refining 4 & Science 3 Right you are. I've correct those in my list. --- 315 of 341 skills trained.
Tripoli XenTech	Posted - 2006.12.01 01:03:00 - [39] Originally by: Zwaplat Ice Processing prereqs have been changed too, afaik. It's ridiculous what you need now. Hydromagnetics at lvl 4, and that's a skill which you need to do research on shields...what's one got to do with the other anyway ? Nope, that's how that skill was before. I only know that because for some reason I already have Hydromagnetic Physics level 4, and no other excuse for it. --- 315 of 341 skills trained.
Foulis Minmatar Chosen Path Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.01 05:19:00 - [40] I was thinking along the lines of an earlier poster, is there any point in training Jury rigging past level 3? ---- Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari NO WORDS IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE ARE SPELLED WITH THE NUMBER "8" IN THEM GODIT!
Tripoli XenTech	Posted - 2006.12.01 05:25:00 - [41] Originally by: Foulis I was thinking along the lines of an earlier poster, is there any point in training Jury rigging past level 3? Not that I know of. --- 316 of 341 skills trained.
Protunia Gallente	Posted - 2006.12.01 05:34:00 - [42] Does the jury rigging skill make a difference in how effective your riggings are?? or is that based on the other rigging skills?? My Character Stats
Tripoli XenTech	Posted - 2006.12.01 06:06:00 - [43] Originally by: Protunia Does the jury rigging skill make a difference in how effective your riggings are?? or is that based on the other rigging skills?? To the best of my knowledge, only the specific rigging skills have an effect. --- 316 of 341 skills trained.
Miranda Duvall Gallente OPM Holdings	Posted - 2006.12.01 13:44:00 - [44] For tools like ECM and EVEMon it is critically important that the "TypeID" of the new skills is somehow made available. Tripoli, since you have most of them, could you do us a HUGE favour and make public the TypeID's of the new skills? You can find it in your characters XML as you probably know. What is also needed is the primary+secundary attribute of each new skill. With all that info the guys at evemon and ACM/EMS can go to work :) Isn't it great being a skill collector? Top 20 My Skills
Miranda Duvall Gallente OPM Holdings	Posted - 2006.12.01 16:09:00 - [45] Found these TypeID's sofar: Anyone wanna gimme the missing ones? (the drug related ones ) Corporation Management - 1 new skill - Soveriegnty - Rank [8] - Requires Empire Control 5 typeID="12241" Industry - 2 new skills - Drug Manufacturing - Rank (2) - (Not sold by NPCs) typeID="?????" - Gas Cloud Harvesting - Rank (1) - (Not sold by NPCs) typeID="?????" Leadership - 2 new skills - Fleet Command - Rank (12) - Requires Wing Command 5 typeID="24764" - Wing Command - Rank [8] - Requires Leadership 5 typeID="11574" Mechanic - 11 new skills - Armor Rigging - Rank (3) - Requires Jury Rigging 3 typeID="26253" - Astronautics Rigging - Rank (3) - Requires Jury Rigging 3 typeID="26254" - Drones Rigging - Rank (3) - Requires Jury Rigging 3 typeID="26255" - Electronic Superiority Rigging - Rank (3) - Requires Jury Rigging 3 typeID="26256" - Energy Weapon Rigging - Rank (3) - Requires Jury Rigging 3 typeID="26258" - Hybrid Weapon Rigging - Rank (3) - Requires Jury Rigging 3 typeID="26259" - Jury Rigging - Rank (2) - Requires Mechanic 3 typeID="26252" - Launcher Rigging - Rank (3) - Requires Jury Rigging 3 typeID="26260" - Projectile Weapon Rigging - Rank (3) - Requires Jury Rigging 3 typeID="26257" - Salvaging - Rank (3) - Requires Mechanic 5 & Survey 5 typeID="25863" - Shield Rigging - Rank (3) - Requires Jury Rigging 3 typeID="26261" Missile Launcher Operation - 2 new skills - Heavy Assault Missile Specialization - Rank (5) - Requires Heavy Assault Missiles 5 typeID="25718" - Heavy Assault Missiles - Rank (3) - Requires Missile Launcher Operation 3 & Standard Missiles 3 typeID="25719" Science - 6 new skills - Astrometric Pinpointing - Rank (5) - Requires Astrometrics 4 typeID="25810" - Astrometric Triangulation - Rank (5) - Requires Astrometrics 3 typeID="25811" - Biology - Rank (1) - Requires Science 1 - (Previously creation-only) typeID="3405" - Nanite Control - Rank (2) - Requires Science 4 - (Not sold by NPCs) typeID="?????" - Neurotoxin Recovery - Rank (5) - Requires Nanite Control 1 - (Not sold by NPCs) typeID="?????" - Signal Acquisition - Rank [8] - Requires Science 3 typeID="25739" Trade - 2 new skills - Contracting - Rank (1) - Requires Social 1 typeID="25235" - Corporation Contracting - Rank (3) - Requires Contracting 4 typeID="25233" Isn't it great being a skill collector? Top 20 My Skills
swoj The New Order. United Connection's	Posted - 2006.12.01 16:43:00 - [46] Edited by: swoj on 01/12/2006 16:44:29 Originally by: Tripoli Originally by: Foulis I was thinking along the lines of an earlier poster, is there any point in training Jury rigging past level 3? Not that I know of. Doesn't the Jury Rigging skill affect the two groups of rigs (Astronautics and Power Grid I think) that only require jury rigging and have not specialised rigging skill? If I recall correctly, Cargohold Optimisation required Jury Rigging lvl4 - and I would assume that Jury Rigging would reduce the penalty on each lvl the same as the specialty skills do for shield, etc edit: correction
Tripoli XenTech	Posted - 2006.12.01 20:08:00 - [47] Originally by: Miranda Duvall For tools like ECM and EVEMon it is critically important that the "TypeID" of the new skills is somehow made available. Tripoli, since you have most of them, could you do us a HUGE favour and make public the TypeID's of the new skills? You can find it in your characters XML as you probably know. What is also needed is the primary+secundary attribute of each new skill. With all that info the guys at evemon and ACM/EMS can go to work :) Looks like you already got almost everything, but fortunately I know how to look up the rest of them without actually having them. Drug Manufacturing TypeID = 26224 Gas Cloud Harvesting TypeID = 25544 Nanite Control TypeID = 25538 Neurotoxin Recovery TypeID = 25530 (Hint: Market -> Export to File) --- 316 of 341 skills trained.
Cupertino Castellum	Posted - 2006.12.01 21:32:00 - [48] Thanks for the information Tripoli.
Eewec Ourbyni Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.01 22:49:00 - [49] Edited by: Eewec Ourbyni on 01/12/2006 22:52:04 Just a heads up, EVEMon version 1.1.5.330 has a new skills.xml file in it. :D Currently missing Ammarian and Gallentean Encryption Methods skills, due to lack of market entries. Will fix that on/after tuesday's patch when that is supposedly getting fixed. EDIT: That skills file also has all the new descriptions etc for almost all of the skills, not just the new skills (I didn't check the spaceship command skills but I did check ALL of the others). This is a sig... -- You think this guys post is nuts.... you should see his bio -- ... good, ain't it!
Miranda Duvall Gallente OPM Holdings	Posted - 2006.12.02 15:58:00 - [50] Originally by: Tripoli Originally by: Miranda Duvall For tools like ECM and EVEMon it is critically important that the "TypeID" of the new skills is somehow made available. Tripoli, since you have most of them, could you do us a HUGE favour and make public the TypeID's of the new skills? You can find it in your characters XML as you probably know. What is also needed is the primary+secundary attribute of each new skill. With all that info the guys at evemon and ACM/EMS can go to work :) Looks like you already got almost everything, but fortunately I know how to look up the rest of them without actually having them. Drug Manufacturing TypeID = 26224 Gas Cloud Harvesting TypeID = 25544 Nanite Control TypeID = 25538 Neurotoxin Recovery TypeID = 25530 (Hint: Market -> Export to File) I posted this info on the ECM forum, EzTarget/Gilgamoth will work on this. ECM will soon also have a working XML I also created my own XML, with bad descriptions, but enough to see all the skills and prerequisits, check the EMS/ECM forum for that link: Future Falcon Eve Tools Isn't it great being a skill collector? Top 20 My Skills
Contralto Usagi Research	Posted - 2006.12.02 16:20:00 - [51] Edited by: Contralto on 02/12/2006 16:29:48 Originally by: Eewec Ourbyni Edited by: Eewec Ourbyni on 01/12/2006 22:52:04 Just a heads up, EVEMon version 1.1.5.330 has a new skills.xml file in it. :D Maybe looking right at it but I can only find 1.1.5.321 described as "Cutting edge" or did you decide to put it up after the patch?

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