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Sabine Borgia
Amarr Antares Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.29 09:22:00 -
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hi bevore the patch i was using a cyclone with 5x 720 und 2 assaults was doing well now i have reduced rof but says i do more dmg.. bu in fact duo higher rof i need longer to make a hit and somehow i get way lesser hits then bevore from 5x11 shoots with the 720 i had 2 hits on a cruiser at optimal range and those hits werent that uber. now i tried my munnin out and same prob even with the tracking bonus i dont get any hits or that they are so uber it would pay off for reduced rof.
anyone have same problems?
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Gyro DuAquin1
Tri Optimum Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.11.29 09:37:00 -
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how does the rof effect ur hits?
afaik the acs got a higher rof and thats about it, no tracking nerv or whatsoever.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.11.29 09:44:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 29/11/2006 09:48:15
They changed the ammo a bit... what ammo are you using? Anyway, they lowered the damage for most ammo. Its in the patch notes.
I think this is what you are experiencing perhaps (from patch notes):
# The damage of tech 2 ammos types: Gleam, Javelin, Quake, Conflagration, Void and Hail have been decreased by 6.66%, optimal range penalty has increased to 75%. # The damage of tech 2 ammos types: Aurora, Spike and Tremor have been decreased by 27.2%, optimal range bonus has been decreased to 80%.
As for the rof/dmg mod change, it will actually boost the dps with 1%. FEAR MINMATAR!
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AsfALT
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2006.11.29 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 29/11/2006 09:48:15 ... As for the rof/dmg mod change, it will actually boost the dps with 1%. FEAR MINMATAR!
OMG Overpowered!!! NERF!! NERF!! NERF!!
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Sabine Borgia
Amarr Antares Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.29 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1 how does the rof effect ur hits?
afaik the acs got a higher rof and thats about it, no tracking nerv or whatsoever.
higher rof means lesser shots per minute and also lesser chances to get a hit bevore patch i had 10 shoots per minute(per gun) now i have 7,5 shoots per minute means 2,5 shots lesser and also 2,5 lesser chances to make a hit
and i use phased plasma ammo tech I gainst serpentis bevore was well now its ****
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Imba Bambi
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Posted - 2006.11.29 11:35:00 -
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Several changes: regarding the mean of dps :
=>the shorter the combat, the greater the benefit the new system gives. Even if the theoretical dps were to remain the same in continuous time, the discretization introduced by ROF will see slightly higher dps with the new system, as long as a combat does not end exactly before an even number of shots is fired.
Also, the standard deviation of dps has been increased by 41.4% (if dps is normally distributed). This means that if you used to have 100 dps on average and deal most of the damage between 75 and 125 points, you will now deal most of the damage between 65 and 135 points. Also rather a good change, as it increases the probability of insta-popping and breaking a tank with some above average shots.
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Kagura Nikon
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Posted - 2006.11.29 11:38:00 -
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It is only worse if you had enough power to insta pop target already before patch. Now you have overkill power to insta pop and less attempts per minute.
But overall is a good change.
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Sendraks
TOHA Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.29 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sabine Borgia higher rof means lesser shots per minute and also lesser chances to get a hit bevore patch i had 10 shoots per minute(per gun) now i have 7,5 shoots per minute means 2,5 shots lesser and also 2,5 lesser chances to make a hit
If you have a 20% chance to hit a target, its still a 20% chance to hit whether you fire 10 rounds or 7. As there is no difference in the damage between 10 rounds pre patch and 7 rounds post patch, then your damage output has not changed.
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NirvanaA
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Posted - 2006.11.29 19:14:00 -
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Edited by: NirvanaA on 29/11/2006 19:14:41
Originally by: Sabine Borgia hi bevore the patch i was using a cyclone with 5x 720 und 2 assaults was doing well now i have reduced rof but says i do more dmg.. bu in fact duo higher rof i need longer to make a hit and somehow i get way lesser hits then bevore from 5x11 shoots with the 720 i had 2 hits on a cruiser at optimal range and those hits werent that uber.
That is one LONG sentence.
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Alowishus
Shadow Company Alektorophobia
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Posted - 2006.11.29 19:20:00 -
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The problem with Minmatar (and Amarr for that matter): They are ugly. Very ugly.
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