It is pretty dumb, however lets look at the evidence at hand: Fozzie and Rise's inheritance of completely imbalanced and boring capital gameplay system.

Dear, oh dear, oh dear - 17.5k DPS becomes 17.2k.

FTFY

I must've missed the blob of drone battlecruisers.

It's pretty dumb to think they'll just abandon you folks. People who are stupid enough to believe that are no loss when they leave. It's just as stupid as highseccers of all kinds not getting how obviously there will come a balance pass smashing through their gameplay as well.

You're all like children, but worse.

Meaningless to you because you don't fly them I am guessing. It does not change the fact that they were nerfed, instead of fixing the individual ships like they should have.

You mean like they abandoned "Moms" (Super-Carriers) to languish for the two years between Trinity (introduction of HICs) and Dominion? Yeah, they'd never do that.

Seems to me the child is the one speaking from a lack of experience.

You mean like they abandoned "Moms" (Super-Carriers) to languish for the two years between Trinity (introduction of HICs) and Dominion? Yeah, they'd never do that.

Seems to me the child is the one speaking from a lack of experience.

You area flying ships that were already known to be sub-par and throwing a fit because they got nerfed by collateral damage of a good change instead of just getting off this failtrain that is using these ships to begin with.

Throwing a fit? Calling a poorly executed/thought-out fix lazy is a "fit"? You're just trying to nitpick at stupid stuff now, seems like you're just trolling to me.

They're gong to be rebalanced before the end of the year.

I can almost say that with a straight face.

I have a serious question that I cannot wrap my head around (I am poor and new and fly small stuff and have no idea):


On the one hand I constantly see posts coming up about supers being useless.

On the other hand there is the same amount of posts about supers being disgustingly oppressive.


Which one is it?

Again, you have an issue of cost. Nobody is going to field a 100 billion isk blap-titan that has had its HP and damage slashed, just because. It's just not worth the risk. If we were talking about a 10 billion isk Titan that was 5 times more effective against sub-caps than a dread, and 5 times as survivable, for 5 times the cost, maybe. Not for 50 times the cost.

You can theory craft all kinds of ways to make them "force multipliers", but there are far too many of them now for that to be a reasonable role to play for all of us who trained for them and ground out the isk to buy them.

CCP is promising a "re-balance", but, don't hold your breath. "Motherships" languished for years before Dominion. It's not at all unlikely that supers and titans will do the same now, while CCP pursues it's grand plan for a new sov game.

good for you! death to all supers! subcap is more fun anyway

you just won the internet

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If they give you an extra 5%, 10%, or other small amounts of damage, HP, AND damage application than a dread, wouldn't you be willing to sacrifice the extra hundreds of billions for that advantage as an alliance/coalition? People seems to be willing to do it at the scale of a ship.

If anything those ships need a buff, yes a buff, so that people get them out there ang get them to die.

They need a major buff to damage application so that the absence of structures to shoot at is not fatal to them. People need to feel good about fielding them against subcaps.

What they need a nerf to is their ability to preserve themselves, remove Capital Reps as suggested, limit their ability to be repaired, etc..

Then they will be extremely benefitial to the game in that they will serve as a way to empty the unending vaults out there, kinda like a consumable for extra power with a sizeable cost but worth the cost once you can afford everything else.

Im reading this thread and wondering, with all the pros and cons of the caps and someone mentioned that there is unlimited supply to them (in a sense lots of people.own them nowadays). What's the point of owning a cap ship that you field maybe once a year. Why isn't there a Fuel cost associated with owning one, be it active or unsubbed account, there should be some way to maintain that ship, so that actually owning one requires using it instead of holding it for kicks.
I say 1bil monthly maintanance cost for titans, half of that for sc's. :D

I believe a maintenance cost would put more people off of them than they already are going to be. Also, 1 bil a month isn't much and people would use subcaps to make the isk to buy the fuel or whatever.

CCP please tell me that As my main spent nearly a year subbing my account to train up to fly a super and you keep chipping away at killing them off in the game.. Now you nerf the DDA's and we all know supers use at least one or more for general use.

Is there any way for a refund on skillpoints so I can fly a subcap and enjoy the game as im thinking Elite Dangerous might be better now.

Much love and happiness to all you all out there.

The answer is simple:

Death to all supers.
Delete them from the game.

Im reading this thread and wondering, with all the pros and cons of the caps and someone mentioned that there is unlimited supply to them (in a sense lots of people.own them nowadays). What's the point of owning a cap ship that you field maybe once a year. Why isn't there a Fuel cost associated with owning one, be it active or unsubbed account, there should be some way to maintain that ship, so that actually owning one requires using it instead of holding it for kicks.
I say 1bil monthly maintanance cost for titans, half of that for sc's. :D

Much love and happiness to all you all out there.