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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.11.29 15:06:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 29/11/2006 15:06:50
I just wanted to hear peoples opinions about it... because I frankly think its pretty pathetic with the hp increase for all ships. The only thing it can kill is basicly t1 cruisers...I expect the prices to crash on this one.
I could be wrong though, but I just dont get the kicks from the ship anymore. What about the rest of you?
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Thornspawn Chalice
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Posted - 2006.11.29 15:11:00 -
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 Originally by: Jim McGregor
because I frankly think its pretty pathetic with the hp increase for all ships.
 well its feed on rigs in kali, careful u can get powerful thingie 
its still a best hac..
and all ppl who use ANY ship got nerfed with hp boost.. so don't talk that like about nerfbat 
u don't use cap - and that's ur advantage in kali, keep it.
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Commander Nikolas
Gallente
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
Sani Khal'Vecna
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Posted - 2006.11.29 15:16:00 -
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Vaga is still a great ship, esspecially once you get a couple of rigs on it. You will soon see Vaga's going faster then 10km/s with full sets of implants, rigs, and speed mods.
Who can argue with 10km/s?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.11.29 15:17:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 29/11/2006 15:18:41
Originally by: Thornspawn Chalice
u don't use cap
No, the guns dont use cap. The MWD use plenty. :)
Originally by: Commander Nikolas
Who can argue with 10km/s?
Well, you cant hit anything at those speeds, but it makes for excellent survival, thats true.
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Twilight Moon
Minmatar
Malicious Intentions
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Posted - 2006.11.29 15:19:00 -
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Heavy Tackler?
I'll be buying one (when I have the ISK), just for the silly speed of it.
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Loka
Gallente
adeptus gattacus
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.29 15:22:00 -
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i think anything is better than my Deimos, isnt it?
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Dixon
Caldari
Hells Donkeys
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Posted - 2006.11.29 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Loka
i think anything is better than my Deimos, isnt it?
Try the Sacrilege..
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as long as there will be such umbalance there is no hope to make ships balanced...
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Hotice
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Posted - 2006.11.29 15:27:00 -
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Vagabond is still nice ship. If you expecting it to solo battleships then you might have a bit of problem. Otherwise, it is a ship that you wouldn't lose too easily due to speed. If you cannot win, just get out. It is a great fun to fly it.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.11.29 15:31:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 29/11/2006 15:36:28
Originally by: Hotice
Vagabond is still nice ship. If you expecting it to solo battleships then you might have a bit of problem. Otherwise, it is a ship that you wouldn't lose too easily due to speed. If you cannot win, just get out. It is a great fun to fly it.
I agree, its fun, but im wondering what it can kill. Like you say, battleships are pretty much out of the question... battlecruisers? I doubt it.
So... t1 cruisers.
Not that the other hacs are much better... I killed a Deimos with the Hurricane for example. Me thinks hacs went from uber to specialized.
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.11.29 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 29/11/2006 15:06:50
I just wanted to hear peoples opinions about it... because I frankly think its pretty pathetic with the hp increase for all ships. The only thing it can kill is basicly t1 cruisers...I expect the prices to crash on this one.
I could be wrong though, but I just dont get the kicks from the ship anymore. What about the rest of you?
You're saying this despite the fact that hail is now VERY useful. If you're fighting another HAC, throw hail on, sit next to them, and win.
BS or bigger, just kite it with barrage.
Vaga is just as mean as ever.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.11.29 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: Haniblecter Teg
You're saying this despite the fact that hail is now VERY useful. If you're fighting another HAC, throw hail on, sit next to them, and win.
BS or bigger, just kite it with barrage.
Vaga is just as mean as ever.
Sitting still next to another hac is suicide in a Vaga. You dont even have shield hardeners you know. 
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Imba Bambi
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Posted - 2006.11.29 15:54:00 -
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Edited by: Imba Bambi on 29/11/2006 15:54:43
Now I havent tested it, but how about Hail + 2 fallof rigs?
Gives almost same range as barrage (+44% instead of +50%), much higher damage.
Maybe even use a 10% falloff booster?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Imba Bambi
Edited by: Imba Bambi on 29/11/2006 15:54:43
Now I havent tested it, but how about Hail + 2 fallof rigs?
Gives almost same range as barrage (+44% instead of +50%), much higher damage.
Maybe even use a 10% falloff booster?
Hail also got a severe tracking nerf im afraid. But maybe it can work, yeah. Will try it on SiSi. :)
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Imba Bambi
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:08:00 -
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Edited by: Imba Bambi on 29/11/2006 16:09:00
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Imba Bambi
Edited by: Imba Bambi on 29/11/2006 15:54:43
Now I havent tested it, but how about Hail + 2 fallof rigs?
Gives almost same range as barrage (+44% instead of +50%), much higher damage.
Maybe even use a 10% falloff booster?
Hail also got a severe tracking nerf im afraid. But maybe it can work, yeah. Will try it on SiSi. :)
Ok sorry, no way that it can work. Just saw that patch notes didnt include the 50% falloff reduction of Hail ammo.
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Silverized
Murder-Death-Kill
Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 29/11/2006 15:06:50
I just wanted to hear peoples opinions about it... because I frankly think its pretty pathetic with the hp increase for all ships. The only thing it can kill is basicly t1 cruisers...I expect the prices to crash on this one.
I could be wrong though, but I just dont get the kicks from the ship anymore. What about the rest of you?
ehh lol, it might take a few more mins to kill BS in kali, but tanks you could break in RMR you can break in kali. With the -40% rof and +40% damage on AC your DPS will be better and it will save you ammo. Also keep in mind that vaga are the king of passive tanks, with kali it gets even better.
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Octavio Santillian
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Posted - 2006.11.30 08:41:00 -
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I took my Vaga out in SiSi a few times, and it tore up most anything I came across. With 3x instabs it is highly maneuverable and even crazier fast. Even without rigs, I still had the firepower to kill a BS solo. Of course it took longer, and no one was rushing in to save anyone on SiSi. The question is: why fly a Vaga over a properly fit Hurricane?
A lot of Vagas out there perform so well because they are faction fit (and donÆt forget the snakes). Due to the insane survivability of the Vaga, even a poor lug like me could risk putting Domi and Corpum mods all over it. When simply T2 fitted, a Vaga is still a great ship, but a properly fit Cane will be comparable in many regards and better in others.
So, in many ways, the choice between flying a Vaga or a Cane will hinge a lot on what you are prepared to risk fitting on it. If you want to go hog wild, you can take that risk on a Vaga. If you simply want an effective T2 fitted ship, I think the Cane will just make more sense.
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Phelan Lore
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.11.30 08:57:00 -
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Falloff rig + faction scram looks interesting (if I wasn't a poor bastard). 
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