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Aelle Vane
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2015.07.09 00:48:14 -
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Has any1 got any gd fits for the Hecate yet??? |
Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
303
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Posted - 2015.07.09 05:21:07 -
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Aelle Vane wrote:Has any1 got any gd fits for the Hecate yet???
How about intuition? You got everything on plate already. Now you asking someone to start feed you with spoon. |
Aelle Vane
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2015.07.09 11:30:53 -
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"Sigh" - Always that one person that has to leave an unhelpful comment...
If you must know i did put together a build but i have no reason 2 post it because i'am not satisfied with it.
Forgot it this forum is a joke so close topic please Mods. |
Mizhir
Matari Exodus
The Camel Empire
74495
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Posted - 2015.07.09 11:35:11 -
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http://crossingzebras.com/theory-crafting-the-hecate/
Next time take a look at google first :)
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
306
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Posted - 2015.07.09 11:42:22 -
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Aelle Vane wrote:"Sigh" - Always that one person that has to leave an unhelpful comment...
If you must know i did put together a build but i have no reason 2 post it because i'am not satisfied with it.
Forgot it this forum is a joke so close topic please Mods.
Yeah there are always few persons lazy enough to do a homework. |
Belthazor4011
For Your Bacon Only
The Marmite Collective
181
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Posted - 2015.07.09 11:49:17 -
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Mizhir wrote:http://crossingzebras.com/theory-crafting-the-hecate/
Next time take a look at google first :)
Overlooking the fact that most of those fits are bad and do not use its amazing potential for DPS. Its just a big Cata with more mids so do with mids what you should. Blasters and add webs :)
Tracking computers and rails for PVE
If you are flying a fit that does less than 500 DPS (with blasters) you're doing it wrong. Which only one of those fits reaches and then it has a single repper without resist mods. Real bright idea...
In short just because google found it doesn't make it a good idea. Which makes making a thread on it a good one 
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Mizhir
Matari Exodus
The Camel Empire
74496
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Posted - 2015.07.09 12:02:05 -
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Belthazor4011 wrote:Mizhir wrote:http://crossingzebras.com/theory-crafting-the-hecate/
Next time take a look at google first :) Overlooking the fact that most of those fits are bad and do not use its amazing potential for DPS. Its just a big Cata with more mids so do with mids what you should. Blasters and add webs :) Tracking computers and rails for PVE If you are flying a fit that does less than 500 DPS (with blasters) you're doing it wrong. Which only one of those fits reaches and then it has a single repper without resist mods. Real bright idea... In short just because google found it doesn't make it a good idea. Which makes making a thread on it a good one
Disregarding fits, just because they don't reach a magic threshold in DPS isn't really a bright idea either. Sure, the hecate has a great dps potential, but it is also open for other possibilities.
I have never claimed that all fits from google are good. But taking your time to do some research can often lead you to other discussions that already answer your questions. Regardless of the fit being found through your own research or through asking questions here you still have to apply your own common sense, so making a thread wouldn't nescessarily give you a better answer.
There are more fits that can be found on google:
http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?19824-PvP-Hecate
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Daniela Doran
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
29
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Posted - 2015.07.09 12:36:31 -
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Aelle Vane wrote:"Sigh" - Always that one person that has to leave an unhelpful comment...
If you must know i did put together a build but i have no reason 2 post it because i'am not satisfied with it.
Forgot it this forum is a joke so close topic please Mods.
LOL
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Allaera
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:12:58 -
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Mizhir wrote:Next time take a look at google first :)
Tiddle Jr wrote:Yeah there are always few persons lazy enough to do a homework.
From the very first sticky in the Ships and Modules forum......
Quote:It breaks down resources into categories to help you better find the information you need.
So what's your problem? You guys go to the effort of deriding the OP for asking for advice but couldn't put that effort to better use by giving said advice? Is it that you guys have no idea for a decent fit for a Hecate? If so how about skipping the thread entirely and not making yourselves look like total knobs?
As for Googling fits - why the hell should there be a need to use a third party search engine to find a third party website to get the same information/advice that could easily given right here (the festering proliferation of total knobs notwithstanding)? |
Aelle Vane
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2015.07.09 13:24:26 -
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If you must know i did use google yesterday but because the ship had not been out long i couldn't find anything.
I Checked Batteclinic and other sites + Googled "EVE Online Hecate Fits" and searched Week/24Hours and 1 Hour but nothing.
All i wanted was a nice fit so i could get the best outa a ship i have been waiting months 4.
Thanks for the links.
Close Topic Please Mods. |
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Mizhir
Matari Exodus
The Camel Empire
74497
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Posted - 2015.07.09 17:05:56 -
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Allaera wrote:Mizhir wrote:Next time take a look at google first :) Tiddle Jr wrote:Yeah there are always few persons lazy enough to do a homework. From the very first sticky in the Ships and Modules forum...... Quote:It breaks down resources into categories to help you better find the information you need. So what's your problem? You guys go to the effort of deriding the OP for asking for advice but couldn't put that effort to better use by giving said advice? Is it that you guys have no idea for a decent fit for a Hecate? If so how about skipping the thread entirely and not making yourselves look like total knobs? As for Googling fits - why the hell should there be a need to use a third party search engine to find a third party website to get the same information/advice that could easily given right here (the festering proliferation of total knobs notwithstanding)?
Well. I still managed to supply him with 2 helpfull links. I don't mind people asking questions. They just have to be more specific than "plz giv me fit" as it would otherwise be hard to tell what he really wanted from the fits.
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Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
2955
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Posted - 2015.07.09 18:12:57 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:Aelle Vane wrote:Has any1 got any gd fits for the Hecate yet??? How about intuition? You got everything on plate already. Now you asking someone to start feed you with spoon.
This is not the general discussion sub forum, stop being an ass, this sub forum is dedicated to asking for advice on ships and modules, exactly what the OP was doing.
Roleplaying Trinkets for Explorers and Collectors
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
493
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Posted - 2015.07.09 19:54:43 -
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Belthazor4011 wrote:Mizhir wrote:http://crossingzebras.com/theory-crafting-the-hecate/
Next time take a look at google first :) Overlooking the fact that most of those fits are bad and do not use its amazing potential for DPS. Its just a big Cata with more mids so do with mids what you should. Blasters and add webs :) Tracking computers and rails for PVE If you are flying a fit that does less than 500 DPS (with blasters) you're doing it wrong. Which only one of those fits reaches and then it has a single repper without resist mods. Real bright idea... In short just because google found it doesn't make it a good idea. Which makes making a thread on it a good one
358 DPS cold and 13.6K structure is pretty wild. My hull tanked VNI only gets 14.3k...
It is a bit slow, blaster fit will be vulnerable to kiting. This thing might turn out to be VERY nasty with rails.
The ship does not need resist mods aside from DCU. It gets 72% omni-resist to hull in defense mode. |
Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
311
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Posted - 2015.07.09 21:12:42 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:
This is not the general discussion sub forum, stop being an ass, this sub forum is dedicated to asking for advice on ships and modules, exactly what the OP was doing.
Would you please avoid to comment my reply and link you suggested fit then. |
Daniela Doran
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
29
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Posted - 2015.07.09 23:04:17 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Belthazor4011 wrote:Mizhir wrote:http://crossingzebras.com/theory-crafting-the-hecate/
Next time take a look at google first :) Overlooking the fact that most of those fits are bad and do not use its amazing potential for DPS. Its just a big Cata with more mids so do with mids what you should. Blasters and add webs :) Tracking computers and rails for PVE If you are flying a fit that does less than 500 DPS (with blasters) you're doing it wrong. Which only one of those fits reaches and then it has a single repper without resist mods. Real bright idea... In short just because google found it doesn't make it a good idea. Which makes making a thread on it a good one 358 DPS cold and 13.6K structure is pretty wild. My hull tanked VNI only gets 14.3k... It is a bit slow, blaster fit will be vulnerable to kiting. This thing might turn out to be VERY nasty with rails. The ship does not need resist mods aside from DCU. It gets 72% omni-resist to hull in defense mode.
Hmm, A hull tanked rail fitted Hecate eh. Only a matter of time before you see these things flying around in blobs.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10686
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Posted - 2015.07.09 23:25:17 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:
This is not the general discussion sub forum, stop being an ass, this sub forum is dedicated to asking for advice on ships and modules, exactly what the OP was doing.
Would you please avoid to comment my reply and link you suggested fit then.
Ladies, ye are both beautiful! Calm Down and let go of each others hair.
Regarding the op I plan on fitting it Luke a big ishkur
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
312
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Posted - 2015.07.09 23:31:50 -
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Daniela Doran wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
358 DPS cold and 13.6K structure is pretty wild. My hull tanked VNI only gets 14.3k...
It is a bit slow, blaster fit will be vulnerable to kiting. This thing might turn out to be VERY nasty with rails.
The ship does not need resist mods aside from DCU. It gets 72% omni-resist to hull in defense mode.
Hmm, A hull tanked rail fitted Hecate eh. Only a matter of time before you see these things flying around in blobs.
It is a candy for masses which is given to cover bitterness of Ishtar which is passing away. |
Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
312
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Posted - 2015.07.09 23:33:43 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Tiddle Jr wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:
This is not the general discussion sub forum, stop being an ass, this sub forum is dedicated to asking for advice on ships and modules, exactly what the OP was doing.
Would you please avoid to comment my reply and link you suggested fit then. Ladies, ye are both beautiful! Calm Down and let go of each others hair. Regarding the op I plan on fitting it Luke a big ishkur
Yes sir!  |
Mysa
Alekhine's Gun
The Periphery
41
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Posted - 2015.07.10 15:31:02 -
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When it hits lv5 ill be out whit this.
hectate
this is in defence mode...
SoloFoLife!
-KEKE the Merlin wonder
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W0lf Crendraven
Welfcorp
337
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Posted - 2015.07.10 18:23:02 -
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Mysa wrote:When it hits lv5 ill be out whit this. hectatethis is in defence mode.. who said slow??
The ship gets a mwd speed bonus, unlike all other t3ds, meaning when you actually get a fight you are going to be scrammed, leaving you at sub bc speed. A normal cruiser is fast then you, not to mention almost everything else, a single web comet is faster then your fit it is scram range. |
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Mysa
Alekhine's Gun
The Periphery
41
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Posted - 2015.07.10 18:52:33 -
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W0lf Crendraven wrote:Mysa wrote:When it hits lv5 ill be out whit this. hectatethis is in defence mode.. who said slow?? The ship gets a mwd speed bonus, unlike all other t3ds, meaning when you actually get a fight you are going to be scrammed, leaving you at sub bc speed. A normal cruiser is fast then you, not to mention almost everything else, a single web comet is faster then your fit it is scram range.
at 5m/s whitin web/scram range faster what makes you think there will be any sort of "running" away from? Get back in line dude!
SoloFoLife!
-KEKE the Merlin wonder
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W0lf Crendraven
Welfcorp
338
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Posted - 2015.07.11 02:54:29 -
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Mysa wrote:W0lf Crendraven wrote:Mysa wrote:When it hits lv5 ill be out whit this. hectatethis is in defence mode.. who said slow?? The ship gets a mwd speed bonus, unlike all other t3ds, meaning when you actually get a fight you are going to be scrammed, leaving you at sub bc speed. A normal cruiser is fast then you, not to mention almost everything else, a single web comet is faster then your fit it is scram range. at 5m/s whitin web/scram range faster what makes you think there will be any sort of "running" away from? Get back in line dude!
Thats a propless ship with 1 less web and its faster then the hecate, almost eveything with a scram can get away from it or keep it in range. Its a good ship but it isnt op like the svipul. |
Switch Savage
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
138
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Posted - 2015.07.13 15:08:17 -
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W0lf Crendraven wrote:Mysa wrote:W0lf Crendraven wrote:Mysa wrote:When it hits lv5 ill be out whit this. hectatethis is in defence mode.. who said slow?? The ship gets a mwd speed bonus, unlike all other t3ds, meaning when you actually get a fight you are going to be scrammed, leaving you at sub bc speed. A normal cruiser is fast then you, not to mention almost everything else, a single web comet is faster then your fit it is scram range. at 5m/s whitin web/scram range faster what makes you think there will be any sort of "running" away from? Get back in line dude! Thats a propless ship with 1 less web and its faster then the hecate, almost eveything with a scram can get away from it or keep it in range. Its a good ship but it isnt op like the svipul.
Agreed.
To elaborate further. People do not seem to realise how much you can exploit its poor range and none existent range control.
Neutrons + Null is 3.2+4.4 km in Defensive (7.6km).
Ions + Null is 2.6 + 3.5 in Defensive (6.1km).
Neutrons + Null is 5.2+4.4 km in Sharpshooter (9.6km).
Ions + Null is 4.4 + 3.5 in Sharpshooter (7.9km).
Dual rep fits (have to fit Ions/Electrons) are laughable as they can be pinned by any standard Scram kite frigate in the game and held indefinitely for enough backup to break its tank. Not to mention if you run into a scram kiter with a TD (Optimal Range Script) you are going to be stuck until he gets bored.
Imo Single Rep Neutron/Full Hull dual web neutron or even a TE are required to ensure you can clear frigates scram kiting you with ease. This in turn means your tank suffers greatly as you have to either remain in sharpshooter/only fit a single rep. But hey who cares when your clearing 500 dps with Null to scram range :p.
As Wolf said Svipul is far more OP. They can sit in defense mode tanking absurd damage hitting well out to edge of scram range in defensive mode (albeit for less damage). |
Switch Savage
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
138
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Posted - 2015.07.13 15:23:00 -
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Mysa wrote:W0lf Crendraven wrote:Mysa wrote:When it hits lv5 ill be out whit this. hectatethis is in defence mode.. who said slow?? The ship gets a mwd speed bonus, unlike all other t3ds, meaning when you actually get a fight you are going to be scrammed, leaving you at sub bc speed. A normal cruiser is fast then you, not to mention almost everything else, a single web comet is faster then your fit it is scram range. at 5m/s whitin web/scram range faster what makes you think there will be any sort of "running" away from? Get back in line dude!
Your numbers are way off.
Assuming no Snakes/Links/Implants on either side and full V Skills as well as no modules to Increase speed.
Comet
UnWebbed: 1276 m/s, OH:1679 m/s
x2 Fleeting Applied: 244 m/s, OH: 321 m/s
Hecate
UnWebbed: 213 m/s, OH: N/A (Scrammed)
x1 Fleeting Applied: 85 m/s, OH: N/A (Scrammed)
Comet: 321 vs Hecate 85 m/s.
Assuming you both start at zero its still going to get a fair bit of distance before webs apply. Chances are you would kill him before he pulls range with that kind of dps but if he starts further out he has full range control. That said you will hit him fine to the edge of scram with Null with neutrons so its all cushdy but still your numbers are off. |
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