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murder one
Gallente
CRICE Corporation
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.30 09:18:00 -
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Some idiot carebear insists on wasting a GMs time because he realized that I was warping about empire w/ -10 sec status using warp to 0km. Are you kidding me? Pirates lose out more than anyone, and this guy has to whine about me being able to move into his system... weak. 
Because I said so...
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Miyoko Sanae
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.30 09:19:00 -
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Sounds pretty fair to me....
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.30 09:23:00 -
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The additional mobility presented by warp to zero is a two way street.
It makes it easier for a fully expanded hauler to move, but similarly it makes a pirate battleship easier to move.
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Minnu
Minmatar
SFTW Manufacturing INC.
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Posted - 2006.11.30 09:28:00 -
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Ohnoes exploit!
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Varis
Jericho Fraction
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Posted - 2006.11.30 09:29:00 -
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yep - and while its now also easier to warp from 0.0 deep into empire, getting into Jita or another trade hub will be a nightmare because of all the other people who did the same thing so they can buy their 50 rounds of ammo for 20 isk cheaper.
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HankMurphy
Pelennor Swarm
Eternal Rangers of Terror
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Posted - 2006.11.30 09:32:00 -
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 Originally by: Varis
yep - and while its now also easier to warp from 0.0 deep into empire, getting into Jita or another trade hub will be a nightmare because of all the other people who did the same thing so they can buy their 50 rounds of ammo for 20 isk cheaper.
50 rounds for a trip to jita?
those guys know how to conserve ammo 
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.30 09:37:00 -
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Originally by: Varis
yep - and while its now also easier to warp from 0.0 deep into empire, getting into Jita or another trade hub will be a nightmare because of all the other people who did the same thing so they can buy their 50 rounds of ammo for 20 isk cheaper.
Centralisation of markets FTW. I mean, I just love having to fly to Jita because there's _NOTHING_ anywhere else in Forge.
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Max Teranous
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.30 09:37:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Some idiot carebear insists on wasting a GMs time because he realized that I was warping about empire w/ -10 sec status using warp to 0km. Are you kidding me? Pirates lose out more than anyone, and this guy has to whine about me being able to move into his system... weak.
Have you flown into a jump queue yet? I can imagine that could be a tad funny all round!
Max 
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Euphoria Released
Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.11.30 09:39:00 -
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Edited by: Ishquar Teh''Sainte on 30/11/2006 09:44:40
Originally by: James Lyrus
Originally by: Varis
yep - and while its now also easier to warp from 0.0 deep into empire, getting into Jita or another trade hub will be a nightmare because of all the other people who did the same thing so they can buy their 50 rounds of ammo for 20 isk cheaper.
Centralisation of markets FTW. I mean, I just love having to fly to Jita because there's _NOTHING_ anywhere else in Forge.
atleast you can say: "i told ya so"  (great posts by yours - sadly they got ingnored )
back to the OP: well .. isn't it nice how the devs are keeping "you have to suffer the consequences for your actions" in mind? 
my overall opinion about revelations can be found in my sig.
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murder one
Gallente
CRICE Corporation
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.30 09:40:00 -
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Originally by: Max Teranous
Originally by: murder one
Some idiot carebear insists on wasting a GMs time because he realized that I was warping about empire w/ -10 sec status using warp to 0km. Are you kidding me? Pirates lose out more than anyone, and this guy has to whine about me being able to move into his system... weak.
Have you flown into a jump queue yet? I can imagine that could be a tad funny all round!
Not yet lol! That's why I'm staying the hell away from Jita 
Because I said so...
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Jessica May
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Posted - 2006.11.30 09:41:00 -
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If you're moving gate to gate 0km to avoid the sentry guns stopping to shoot anything would be suicide. On this basis I don't think it's a problem as you can't actually DO anything
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.30 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Originally by: James Lyrus
Originally by: Varis
yep - and while its now also easier to warp from 0.0 deep into empire, getting into Jita or another trade hub will be a nightmare because of all the other people who did the same thing so they can buy their 50 rounds of ammo for 20 isk cheaper.
Centralisation of markets FTW. I mean, I just love having to fly to Jita because there's _NOTHING_ anywhere else in Forge.
atleast you can say: "i told ya so"
my overall opinion about revelations can be found in my sig.
It's been a problem as instas got gradually more prevalent. Now of course, it's just got worse.
I bashed out several opinions on the forums, how 'warp to zero' and instas in any form are negative points in gameplay, but too many people want 'I win, easy mode' :/
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D'Mur Pilru
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Posted - 2006.11.30 09:45:00 -
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On the other hand, freighters and traders now have it easy, so they might buy low in Jita, and actually transport it to the outer regions for a profit.
Anyone with low capital can now start a trading profession, so I expect the markets in outer space to have more goods as well, for slighly higher profit margins then Jita.
Saving the rest of us a trip to Jita...I'd gladly pay 2 ISK more per missile , than fly 30 jumps, warp to 0 or not.
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Wotar
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Posted - 2006.11.30 09:46:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Some idiot carebear insists on wasting a GMs time because he realized that I was warping about empire w/ -10 sec status using warp to 0km. Are you kidding me? Pirates lose out more than anyone, and this guy has to whine about me being able to move into his system... weak.
They petitioned you for this? My god. The game gets better, the players get worse. People who waste the GM's time should be temp-banned or isk-fined for it. ffs
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Suladriel
Caldari
Penguinista.
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Posted - 2006.11.30 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Some idiot carebear insists on wasting a GMs time because he realized that I was warping about empire w/ -10 sec status using warp to 0km. Are you kidding me? Pirates lose out more than anyone, and this guy has to whine about me being able to move into his system... weak.
Hehe. I wanted to move one of my jump-clones last night and had to go through 4 high-sec systems (I'm currently -6.8ish sec status) using WTZ.....but I don't think anyone petitioned me :)
The only jump queues I hit were once I was back in low-sec, around the Goinard area. I gave up for the night once I couldn't log back in in the Goinard system. Luckily all the other people I ran in to at the gates were also flying shuttles LOL.
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Euphoria Released
Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.11.30 09:54:00 -
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Originally by: D'Mur Pilru
On the other hand, freighters and traders now have it easy, so they might buy low in Jita, and actually transport it to the outer regions for a profit.
Anyone with low capital can now start a trading profession, so I expect the markets in outer space to have more goods as well, for slighly higher profit margins then Jita.
Saving the rest of us a trip to Jita...I'd gladly pay 2 ISK more per missile , than fly 30 jumps, warp to 0 or not.
but if you can buy at the same time some shiney new missile launchers, shield hardeners, some BPCs and the odd faction mod from the contract system - and that's all in the same station - the 30 jumps won't hold most of the people back from moving to jita 4-4.
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AlphaM
Doom Guard
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Posted - 2006.11.30 10:13:00 -
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I had to go through jita last night, I was #415 in queue, i woulda loved a flashing red pilot to entertain me
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.30 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: D'Mur Pilru
On the other hand, freighters and traders now have it easy, so they might buy low in Jita, and actually transport it to the outer regions for a profit.
Anyone with low capital can now start a trading profession, so I expect the markets in outer space to have more goods as well, for slighly higher profit margins then Jita.
Saving the rest of us a trip to Jita...I'd gladly pay 2 ISK more per missile , than fly 30 jumps, warp to 0 or not.
You are in a minority though. Most will go to Jita to shop, because it's easy. Forge market is already pretty much empty other than Jita.
The plus side of course, is you can now set a 'bring me ammo' contract up. Which is pretty cool.
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Ryas Nia
Minmatar
Stormriders
Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2006.11.30 11:12:00 -
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thanks to warp to 0 i have more low sec to "terrorize" than i did before, simply becaues moving even small fleets of frigs or cruisers was slow with out instas.
I forsee more piracy, more pvp, more action, more travel, wider markets, more exploration, and no change in the number of gate camps. TBH in 2-3 weeks just watch as the game gets used and peopel realize how good it really is and how it does not hurt gameplay.
There is but ONE thing im not fully ok with and that is Station instas... we have enough people hugging stations/POS's that its some what anoying that now i can only attack them when they undock before they warp out, unless i have a dedicated gang member/alt with probes.
Anyway i look at it though, i see more potentail for me to pvp.
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Satanista
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Posted - 2006.11.30 11:17:00 -
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the players that complain are complaining about "warp -> 0" from pirates are the same ones that would be moaning that their warp->0 would not work anymore if concord would actually use interdictors to prevent such thing from happening.
i think a good number of players in this game, especially those who live in empire, lack goals and just need to find something to complain about.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.11.30 11:18:00 -
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"OHNOS!!1111! PIRATES CAN USE WARP TO ZERO TOO!!11!1"
Nice one  
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Euphoria Released
Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.11.30 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Satanista
the players that complain are complaining about "warp -> 0" from pirates are the same ones that would be moaning that their warp->0 would not work anymore if concord would actually use interdictors to prevent such thing from happening.
i think a good number of players in this game, especially those who live in empire, lack goals and just need to find something to complain about.
no - i'm complaining about WTZ in general .. "free travel for pirates in hi-sec" is only one of the much sideeffects that is caused by this pandoras box called "WTZ"
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Nocturnal Prince
Tech 2 Holdings Limited
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Posted - 2006.11.30 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Max Teranous
Originally by: murder one
Some idiot carebear insists on wasting a GMs time because he realized that I was warping about empire w/ -10 sec status using warp to 0km. Are you kidding me? Pirates lose out more than anyone, and this guy has to whine about me being able to move into his system... weak.
Have you flown into a jump queue yet? I can imagine that could be a tad funny all round!
Yep, I didnt realise the out auto-crash was taking me through Jita and ended up in a queue with the number 648 on my ticket. The funny thing is after going round the back way that timer was still counting down ten jumps later
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Jin Entres
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.30 11:34:00 -
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We need GM Dave, to be honest.
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Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2006.11.30 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
"OHNOS!!1111! PIRATES CAN USE WARP TO ZERO TOO!!11!1"
Nice one
Waiting for the inevitable...
Proposal: Tie Security Rating to Warp Destination Proximity.
Security Rating / Minimum Warp-to Distance
0+ / 0km
-1 / 1km
-2 / 7km
-5 / 15km
-8 / 30km
-10 / 500km!!!
Special bonus: pilots with security ratings greater than 4.9 would be given the exciting new "Jump Drive Implant"!
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Romeda
Minmatar
Trojan industries
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Posted - 2006.11.30 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Some idiot carebear insists on wasting a GMs time because he realized that I was warping about empire w/ -10 sec status using warp to 0km. Are you kidding me? Pirates lose out more than anyone, and this guy has to whine about me being able to move into his system... weak.
Did this really need a forum post? I've seen -10 peeps move though empire before and that was before the patch, they used ceptors.
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Verus Potestas
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2006.11.30 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Romeda
Originally by: murder one
Some idiot carebear insists on wasting a GMs time because he realized that I was warping about empire w/ -10 sec status using warp to 0km. Are you kidding me? Pirates lose out more than anyone, and this guy has to whine about me being able to move into his system... weak.
Did this really need a forum post? I've seen -10 peeps move though empire before and that was before the patch, they used ceptors.
It didn't need a petition, that's for sure
As for a forum post, it amused me, and that makes it worthwhile.
Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari
The Keep
THE R0CK
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Posted - 2006.11.30 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Romeda
Originally by: murder one
Some idiot carebear insists on wasting a GMs time because he realized that I was warping about empire w/ -10 sec status using warp to 0km. Are you kidding me? Pirates lose out more than anyone, and this guy has to whine about me being able to move into his system... weak.
Did this really need a forum post? I've seen -10 peeps move though empire before and that was before the patch, they used ceptors.
He needs the attention.
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murder one
Gallente
CRICE Corporation
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.30 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Audri Fisher
Originally by: Romeda
Originally by: murder one
Some idiot carebear insists on wasting a GMs time because he realized that I was warping about empire w/ -10 sec status using warp to 0km. Are you kidding me? Pirates lose out more than anyone, and this guy has to whine about me being able to move into his system... weak.
Did this really need a forum post? I've seen -10 peeps move though empire before and that was before the patch, they used ceptors.
He needs the attention.
You need attention...
Because I said so...
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