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Renegade Heart
Carebear Miners R Us
470
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Posted - 2015.07.14 23:56:27 -
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I stepped on a Corn Flake, now I'm a Cereal Killer. |
Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1301
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Posted - 2015.07.15 00:47:55 -
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For the record ganking and killing in general of new players in eve positively affects retention
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Forum BFFL of Mo
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Paranoid Loyd
6257
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Posted - 2015.07.15 00:54:15 -
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GordonO wrote:Torx Rench wrote:I apologize for a member of my corp posting in the mercenary forum without my knowledge or consent. This will not be tolerated and will be dealt with personally. I apologize for him wasting your time, as for the hauler who stole from the corp, yes it happened, no he wasn't awoxed because we are friendly fire illegal, and it was under a bil so it's not even worth getting angry about. I apologize on behalf of our corp and one of its members for wasting your time.
Thanks, Torx wow, you got 2 likes for apologizing to griefers and gankers.. good one.. Seems you spoke out of turn to begin with and now you continue to run your mouth. Maybe you should shut it as you should have from the beginning. One would think you would realize by now, you are not helping, in fact it is quite the opposite.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1302
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Posted - 2015.07.15 01:36:06 -
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Torx Rench wrote:I apologize for a member of my corp posting in the mercenary forum without my knowledge or consent. This will not be tolerated and will be dealt with personally. I apologize for him wasting your time, as for the hauler who stole from the corp, yes it happened, no he wasn't awoxed because we are friendly fire illegal, and it was under a bil so it's not even worth getting angry about. I apologize on behalf of our corp and one of its members for wasting your time.
Thanks, Torx That's all well and good but under C&P Law 2 there is a provision for a good story out weighing the need for evidence. So based on that spin us a fun yarn and I'm sure it will go away
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Forum BFFL of Mo
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2146
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Posted - 2015.07.15 03:06:25 -
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GordonO wrote:Torx Rench wrote:I apologize for a member of my corp posting in the mercenary forum without my knowledge or consent. This will not be tolerated and will be dealt with personally. I apologize for him wasting your time, as for the hauler who stole from the corp, yes it happened, no he wasn't awoxed because we are friendly fire illegal, and it was under a bil so it's not even worth getting angry about. I apologize on behalf of our corp and one of its members for wasting your time.
Thanks, Torx wow, you got 2 likes for apologizing to griefers and gankers.. good one..
He was civil, courteous even. Adult. He got more than two likes for that. You, on the other hand, have most likely found yourself watchlisted by a number of 'griefers' and 'gankers' who due to your approach to this situation will most likely be eyeing your future career with great interest.
At least it wont be boring.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
1186
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:54:03 -
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GordonO wrote:Torx Rench wrote:I apologize for a member of my corp posting in the mercenary forum without my knowledge or consent. This will not be tolerated and will be dealt with personally. I apologize for him wasting your time, as for the hauler who stole from the corp, yes it happened, no he wasn't awoxed because we are friendly fire illegal, and it was under a bil so it's not even worth getting angry about. I apologize on behalf of our corp and one of its members for wasting your time.
Thanks, Torx wow, you got 2 likes for apologizing to griefers and gankers.. good one..
He's stepping up and being accountable for his guys and the action of his guys. That is admired on this forum. It's a corollary to posting with one's main. If you take a a step back and look - we're pretty much the staunch conservative party in eve. It's all about making sure folks do the right thing. We do our best to keep the game right and pure.
Your CEO (well ex ceo at this point) is a good man and seems to be a good leader. He saw a problem (that would be you), he stepped up and took care of it. As it stands, I'll pay Vimsy the dec fee to cancel and pull off his corp. In my view the cancer has been removed so the corp should be allowed to move on in good health and with good wishes.
As noted - it would be appreciated if your CEO provided us with an amusing accounting of the whole situation (I will stress here that we aren't that interested in facts, it's all about the story - factual accounting of events is only mandatory when thanatos carriers are involved)
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
2762
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:43:00 -
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These folks can only be described as relentlessly apologetic. I told one of them last night to put in a 100 mil surrender at any time and I'll accept it. I also recommended that if they don't want to do that they have some fun and try and kill some people (set a log off trap for Yuller, he always falls for them). |
Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1303
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Posted - 2015.07.15 13:09:11 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:These folks can only be described as relentlessly apologetic. I told one of them last night to put in a 100 mil surrender at any time and I'll accept it. I also recommended that if they don't want to do that they have some fun and try and kill some people (set a log off trap for Yuller, he always falls for them). I'll remember this next time we go to war
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Forum BFFL of Mo
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Justinenough
Wide Open Throttle
0
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Posted - 2015.07.15 13:35:48 -
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Hello all
I see a few things here..... Actions taken by some on both sides has led to this corp being WD`cd.
I have Messaged Vimsy in game, but have only just found these postings here in the forum, so I await her Reply.
Often in situations like these the facts get melded into various stories where there is no burdening proof, and people in many ways have "dug themselves" into a hole. Faced with no ladder up, the situation becomes a question of pride, along with its inevitable fall. With respect... this has happened to GoronO
Playing Devils advocate, whilst I am not defending his actions, he acted alone, but from his own`frame of reference`; he thought he was doing right for the corp.... Even though this was not the best path,,,, the `good` intention was there.
Now faced with this situation, the best path is for solution for ALL sides.
There have been, reading previous posts generous offers of bringing this to a conclusion, For those offers and to those people I will thank you... even if the offer is not taken up. I Would propose that If you are serious about the apology Gordon) then you pay the required fee to Vimsy to nullify the WD.
I might suggest that this will be in your favour and show that you are able to make reparations, and with it the respect you would again gain by the Justice community. If you feel that the isk penalty is too high then I would pay 50% if you are willing to compromise.
Ordinarily I would say let the WD run, but as we are only just developing I feel it may be a little too early for some of the new recruits.... The lesson of the inevitable war dec can be played further down the line.
I hope this can go some way to putting closure to this and those involved parties can regain their pride and respect back
Justin |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2148
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Posted - 2015.07.15 13:41:56 -
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O.O STORIES! We love stories. A good story can save lives or kill thousands depending upon how it is told. We do appreciate the candor here, as many purveyors of C&P are of a mind that respect is something cultivated instead of simply granted. You seem alright, how you proceed from here will directly affect the opinions and regards of the various viewers. Indulge us in our petty desire for gossip, if you would?
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
2762
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Posted - 2015.07.15 15:29:27 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:I'll remember this next time we go to war
Yuller is so absurdly aggressive and belligerent that getting him to aggress something he probably shouldn't isn't that much of an achievement. The holy grail would be to kill Rusty, he basically never dies.
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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
1189
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Posted - 2015.07.15 15:51:54 -
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Has anyone asked for a good story to make this all go away yet? I think that would be a grand idea.
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Justinenough
Wide Open Throttle
0
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Posted - 2015.07.15 16:04:08 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:Has anyone asked for a good story to make this all go away yet? I think that would be a grand idea.
As you may see from my posting history..... Im somewhat new to Eve postings.... Regarding story, what are the `rules` regarding such a task.... Has it got to be factual about `said cases` or will any erm.......... made up story with in the context of eve do??
All in the attempt of "making this go away".
J |
Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1305
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Posted - 2015.07.15 16:53:02 -
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Justinenough wrote:Serendipity Lost wrote:Has anyone asked for a good story to make this all go away yet? I think that would be a grand idea.
As you may see from my posting history..... Im somewhat new to Eve postings.... Regarding story, what are the `rules` regarding such a task.... Has it got to be factual about `said cases` or will any erm.......... made up story with in the context of eve do?? All in the attempt of "making this go away". J If its a good story about the topic facts be damed.
Noragen Neirfallas, Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Forum BFFL of Mo
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Justinenough
Wide Open Throttle
0
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Posted - 2015.07.15 16:55:45 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Justinenough wrote:Serendipity Lost wrote:Has anyone asked for a good story to make this all go away yet? I think that would be a grand idea.
As you may see from my posting history..... Im somewhat new to Eve postings.... Regarding story, what are the `rules` regarding such a task.... Has it got to be factual about `said cases` or will any erm.......... made up story with in the context of eve do?? All in the attempt of "making this go away". J If its a good story about the topic facts be damed. Noragen Neirfallas, Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Thank you your honour...
It may be a good time then to scribe away, seeing that the CCP Gods are having issues with their hamsters.......
J
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Justinenough
Wide Open Throttle
2
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Posted - 2015.07.15 17:37:35 -
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Ok and in true tradition of a good old pirate sea shanty, and for the sake of all to interact and sing along with.... I have this to offer.....
Just joind a corp in the his sec, sector Just joind a corp in the his sec, sector Just joind a corp in the his sec, sector Early in the morning Way hey up she rises way hey up she rises way hey up she rises early in the morning
Went to the base where the free hang er was Went to the base where the free hang er was Went to the base where the free hang er was Early in the morning Way hey up she rises way hey up she rises way hey up she rises early in the morning
Had look around and there was **** all in there Had look around and there was **** all in there Had look around and there was **** all in there Early in the morning Way hey up she rises way hey up she rises way hey up she rises early in the morning
I logged of cause I wanted dinner I logged of cause I wanted dinner I logged of cause I wanted dinner Early in the morning Way hey up she rises way hey up she rises way hey up she rises early in the morning
Logged back in and we had a war dec Logged back in and we had a war dec Logged back in and we had a war dec Early in the morning Way hey up she rises way hey up she rises way hey up she rises early in the morning
Corp mails flew, as we sailed in a **** storm Corp mails flew, as we sailed in a **** storm Corp mails flew, as we sailed in a **** storm Early in the morning Way hey up she rises way hey up she rises way hey up she rises early in the morning
Firmly at the helm was first mate Gordo Firmly at the helm was first mate Gordo Firmly at the helm was first mate Gordo Early in the morning Way hey up she rises way hey up she rises way hey up she rises early in the morning
We crashed on the rocks of the Justice system We crashed on the rocks of the Justice system We crashed on the rocks of the Justice system Early in the morning Way hey up she rises way hey up she rises way hey up she rises early in the morning
Abandon Corp that was Gordo`s answer Abandon Corp that was Gordo`s answer Abandon Corp that was Gordo`s answer Early in the morning Way hey up she rises way hey up she rises way hey up she rises early in the morning
Row, Row, is the shout to the newbies Row, Row, is the shout to the newbies Row, Row, is the shout to the newbies
Early in the morning Way hey up she rises way hey up she rises way hey up she rises early in the morning
Back to a port that is safe from war dec Back to a port that is safe from war dec Back to a port that is safe from war dec
Early in the morning Way hey up she rises way hey up she rises way hey up she rises early in the morning
Yarr
J
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Domino Vyse
Element Connective
184
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Posted - 2015.07.15 17:45:22 -
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Gonna need to hear you sing that on TS |
GordonO
Caldari Provisions
144
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Posted - 2015.07.15 18:17:54 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:GordonO wrote:Torx Rench wrote:I apologize for a member of my corp posting in the mercenary forum without my knowledge or consent. This will not be tolerated and will be dealt with personally. I apologize for him wasting your time, as for the hauler who stole from the corp, yes it happened, no he wasn't awoxed because we are friendly fire illegal, and it was under a bil so it's not even worth getting angry about. I apologize on behalf of our corp and one of its members for wasting your time.
Thanks, Torx wow, you got 2 likes for apologizing to griefers and gankers.. good one.. He's stepping up and being accountable for his guys and the action of his guys. That is admired on this forum. It's a corollary to posting with one's main. If you take a a step back and look - we're pretty much the staunch conservative party in eve. It's all about making sure folks do the right thing. We do our best to keep the game right and pure. Your CEO (well ex ceo at this point) is a good man and seems to be a good leader. He saw a problem (that would be you), he stepped up and took care of it. As it stands, I'll pay Vimsy the dec fee to cancel and pull off his corp. In my view the cancer has been removed so the corp should be allowed to move on in good health and with good wishes. As noted - it would be appreciated if your CEO provided us with an amusing accounting of the whole situation (I will stress here that we aren't that interested in facts, it's all about the story - factual accounting of events is only mandatory when thanatos carriers are involved)
Just as an FYI, I left on my own accord... no actions were taken against me by the CEO, I did what I thought was right.. And yea, I must be the problem..
... What next ??
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GordonO
Caldari Provisions
144
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Posted - 2015.07.15 20:03:49 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Justinenough wrote:Serendipity Lost wrote:Has anyone asked for a good story to make this all go away yet? I think that would be a grand idea.
As you may see from my posting history..... Im somewhat new to Eve postings.... Regarding story, what are the `rules` regarding such a task.... Has it got to be factual about `said cases` or will any erm.......... made up story with in the context of eve do?? All in the attempt of "making this go away". J I f its a good story about the topic facts be damed. Noragen Neirfallas, Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Welcome to C&P..
... What next ??
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GordonO
Caldari Provisions
144
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Posted - 2015.07.15 20:08:11 -
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Justinenough wrote:Hello all
I see a few things here..... Actions taken by some on both sides has led to this corp being WD`cd.
I have Messaged Vimsy in game, but have only just found these postings here in the forum, so I await her Reply.
Often in situations like these the facts get melded into various stories where there is no burdening proof, and people in many ways have "dug themselves" into a hole. Faced with no ladder up, the situation becomes a question of pride, along with its inevitable fall. With respect... this has happened to GoronO
Playing Devils advocate, whilst I am not defending his actions, he acted alone, but from his own`frame of reference`; he thought he was doing right for the corp.... Even though this was not the best path,,,, the `good` intention was there.
Now faced with this situation, the best path is for solution for ALL sides.
There have been, reading previous posts generous offers of bringing this to a conclusion, For those offers and to those people I will thank you... even if the offer is not taken up. I Would propose that If you are serious about the apology Gordon) then you pay the required fee to Vimsy to nullify the WD.
I might suggest that this will be in your favour and show that you are able to make reparations, and with it the respect you would again gain by the Justice community. If you feel that the isk penalty is too high then I would pay 50% if you are willing to compromise.
Ordinarily I would say let the WD run, but as we are only just developing I feel it may be a little too early for some of the new recruits.... The lesson of the inevitable war dec can be played further down the line.
I hope this can go some way to putting closure to this and those involved parties can regain their pride and respect back
What do you say GordonO?
Justin NO I do not support bullying, ransoming, mining permits and other such things.. The fact that you even suggested is.. well.. no words to describe it really.. but code does love people like you to support their errmm "cause"..
The bribe/ransome is not too high.. my wallet is fully loaded.. but thanks for the offer..
... What next ??
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Renegade Heart
Carebear Miners R Us
474
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Posted - 2015.07.15 20:20:16 -
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GordonO wrote:NO I do not support bullying, ransoming, mining permits and other such things.. The fact that you even suggested is.. well.. no words to describe it really.. but code does love people like you to support their errmm "cause"..
The bribe/ransome is not too high.. my wallet is fully loaded.. but thanks for the offer..
But ganking is ok eh?
Looking 4 Guild
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GordonO
Caldari Provisions
144
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Posted - 2015.07.15 20:34:57 -
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Renegade Heart wrote:GordonO wrote:NO I do not support bullying, ransoming, mining permits and other such things.. The fact that you even suggested is.. well.. no words to describe it really.. but code does love people like you to support their errmm "cause"..
The bribe/ransome is not too high.. my wallet is fully loaded.. but thanks for the offer.. But ganking is ok eh?
Nope, Don't support it, never done it, but some people deserve it
EDIT-- send a thief to catch a thief and all that
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Valkin Mordirc
1245
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Posted - 2015.07.15 20:40:46 -
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GordonO wrote:Renegade Heart wrote:GordonO wrote:NO I do not support bullying, ransoming, mining permits and other such things.. The fact that you even suggested is.. well.. no words to describe it really.. but code does love people like you to support their errmm "cause"..
The bribe/ransome is not too high.. my wallet is fully loaded.. but thanks for the offer.. But ganking is ok eh? Nope, Don't support it, never done it, but some people deserve it EDIT-- send a thief to catch a thief and all that
I reeaally hope your a troll or an idiot,
Because you literally harvested the personification of the American Government right there,
TORTURE IS BAD MKAY?
That's why we PAY OTHER people to do it.
#DeleteTheWeak
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1311
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Posted - 2015.07.15 21:39:55 -
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The Court has decided that there are in fact three parties in this case. The op, the absentee defendant and the corp that has been wronged. I find first of all the defendant guilty of something and something and is sentenced to be shot on site by whoever for his absence. The OP is clearly the villain in this saga. He admits to deep pockets yet won't flex them to save the newbros from the mess he created possibly causing retention issues. Therefore he is fined 2 bil isk in damages playable to his former corp and a further 500 mil to vimsy today's enforcer + expenses she has incurred in delivering him justice.
A special note must be made on the etiquette shown by the wronged corp. Their compelling and factual sea shanty of woe the likes of which have never been heard in this Court has convinced me of the need to start a fund for their newbros which will NOT be managed by Mo. The op and defendant are ordered to match any and all contributions made into this fund. I will personally start this fund with 250mil isk which will be paid to the corp wallet the next time I log on. If the fund is not matched an equal amount will be spent on providing content to these individuals. And by that I mean mostly the OP.
I feel justice was served today
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Forum BFFL of Mo
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Torx Rench
Wide Open Throttle
6
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Posted - 2015.07.15 22:09:46 -
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Thank you Justinenough, you have represented our corp well today, and thank you Noragen, we feel your ruling was just and are thankful for the fund. It will go along way in developing our corp. |
Justinenough
Wide Open Throttle
5
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Posted - 2015.07.15 22:12:57 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:The Court has decided that there are in fact three parties in this case. The op, the absentee defendant and the corp that has been wronged. I find first of all the defendant guilty of something and something and is sentenced to be shot on site by whoever for his absence. The OP is clearly the villain in this saga. He admits to deep pockets yet won't flex them to save the newbros from the mess he created possibly causing retention issues. Therefore he is fined 2 bil isk in damages playable to his former corp and a further 500 mil to vimsy today's enforcer + expenses she has incurred in delivering him justice.
A special note must be made on the etiquette shown by the wronged corp. Their compelling and factual sea shanty of woe the likes of which have never been heard in this Court has convinced me of the need to start a fund for their newbros which will NOT be managed by Mo. The op and defendant are ordered to match any and all contributions made into this fund. I will personally start this fund with 250mil isk which will be paid to the corp wallet the next time I log on. If the fund is not matched an equal amount will be spent on providing content to these individuals. And by that I mean mostly the OP.
I feel justice was served today
I would like to thank the court for its consideration and its final findings in the said matters. Many lessons have been learnt and as a corp we will be taking this all on board as we sail away towards oceans new.
It is sad in a way that when the ladder was offered to help one of the parties to climb up....Heck into the crows nest!!! He chose to climb down further towards the bilge tank.
Fare thee all well
J |
GordonO
Caldari Provisions
138
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Posted - 2015.07.15 23:35:12 -
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Justinenough wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:The Court has decided that there are in fact three parties in this case. The op, the absentee defendant and the corp that has been wronged. I find first of all the defendant guilty of something and something and is sentenced to be shot on site by whoever for his absence. The OP is clearly the villain in this saga. He admits to deep pockets yet won't flex them to save the newbros from the mess he created possibly causing retention issues. Therefore he is fined 2 bil isk in damages playable to his former corp and a further 500 mil to vimsy today's enforcer + expenses she has incurred in delivering him justice.
A special note must be made on the etiquette shown by the wronged corp. Their compelling and factual sea shanty of woe the likes of which have never been heard in this Court has convinced me of the need to start a fund for their newbros which will NOT be managed by Mo. The op and defendant are ordered to match any and all contributions made into this fund. I will personally start this fund with 250mil isk which will be paid to the corp wallet the next time I log on. If the fund is not matched an equal amount will be spent on providing content to these individuals. And by that I mean mostly the OP.
I feel justice was served today
I would like to thank the court for its consideration and its final findings in the said matters. Many lessons have been learnt and as a corp we will be taking this all on board as we sail away towards oceans new. It is sad in a way that when the ladder was offered to help one of the parties to climb up....Heck into the crows nest!!! He chose to climb down further towards the bilge tank. Fare thee all well J
No feasible ladder was offered to anyone, and if vimsy wants to war deck on a whimsy.. well that's not my problem. All up.. this has been fun..
... What next ??
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Renegade Heart
Carebear Miners R Us
475
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Posted - 2015.07.15 23:46:10 -
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GordonO wrote:this has been fun..
I think we have found our absentee defendant right here. Nice alt dude.
Just look at his face for all the evidence you need.
Looking 4 Guild
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GordonO
Caldari Provisions
138
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Posted - 2015.07.16 01:00:42 -
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Renegade Heart wrote:GordonO wrote:this has been fun.. I think we have found our absentee defendant right here. Nice alt dude. Just look at his face for all the evidence you need.
I have alts, and the thief ain't one of them.. happy to share my full API's for my accounts with my ex CEO if he feels the need.
... What next ??
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1314
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Posted - 2015.07.16 01:47:26 -
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GordonO wrote:Renegade Heart wrote:GordonO wrote:this has been fun.. I think we have found our absentee defendant right here. Nice alt dude. Just look at his face for all the evidence you need. I have alts, and the thief ain't one of them.. happy to share my full API's for my accounts with my ex CEO if he feels the need. For all of them except the one the defendant was on. Go home Nitshe we are onto you
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Forum BFFL of Mo
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