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Horus Dark
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Posted - 2006.11.30 13:28:00 -
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Edited by: Horus Dark on 30/11/2006 13:28:14 Well..we have both a appreciation post. And a omgz no post.
I am pretty new to the game but i would suggest something..
The people who are for it are travellers. The people who are against it are people hunting travellers.
The travelles like it because they can travel faster and are expossed less. And the hunters dislike the fact that they are exposed less.
So the question is. How big does you want to risc of travel to be in EVE. In my opinion the risc should be high in the lower the security space.
Soooo how about increasing the warp to as the security goes down?
for example (the actualy nrs may vary) 1.0 = warp to 0 0.9 = warp to 1 ... 0.0 = warp to 10.
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Again i am pretty new, but might be good?
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Daar
United Alliance Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2006.11.30 13:30:00 -
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But then you'd have BMs for 0.0 space... No, wait, BMs don't work any more...
Ahh, well, then you'll have battleships and indys fly at a turtles pace through those areas, making it WAYYYY to easy to hunt them.
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.30 13:35:00 -
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in 0.0 there is things like interdictors and mobile warp disruptors to screw with WTZ. A well placed small bubble that any frigate in the game can carry does wonders.
Originally by: Wrangler Win ME is more a some sort of virus than a OS..
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.11.30 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: AKULA UrQuan in 0.0 there is things like interdictors and mobile warp disruptors to screw with WTZ. A well placed small bubble that any frigate in the game can carry does wonders.
you forgot:
small bubble at the outgoing gate
target jumps into the system - sees the few guys of you in local (standings in local 4tw!) warps to a planet in scanrange and scans the outgoing warps insta from the planet to the gate and jumps through
w00t - bypassing small bubbles using WTZ 4tw!! ___________________
EVE: Revelations - The Game for Carebears and Gankbears
no more skill needed for PvP - only skillpoints for Large Bubble and CovOps n00b-alts |
Fortior
STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.30 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Originally by: AKULA UrQuan in 0.0 there is things like interdictors and mobile warp disruptors to screw with WTZ. A well placed small bubble that any frigate in the game can carry does wonders.
you forgot:
small bubble at the outgoing gate
target jumps into the system - sees the few guys of you in local (standings in local 4tw!) warps to a planet in scanrange and scans the outgoing warps insta from the planet to the gate and jumps through
w00t - bypassing small bubbles using WTZ 4tw!!
Take your own sigs advice, use large bubbles that now are seeded on market. Watch as a space vacuum sucks victims to you!
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.30 13:45:00 -
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A good gatecamp does not need a bubble to stop someone with instas/WTZ unless they are in a very fast aligning ship.
So, as I have said many times before, no easy-mode for gate campers. ----------
IBTL \o/ EVE is upside down! WTZ+Slower Warp=Win |
Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.11.30 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
So, as I have said many times before, no easy-mode for gate campers.
then you didn't saw the mobile large warp disruptors yet ___________________
EVE: Revelations - The Game for Carebears and Gankbears
no more skill needed for PvP - only skillpoints for Large Bubble and CovOps n00b-alts |
Crumplecorn
Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.30 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Originally by: Crumplecorn
So, as I have said many times before, no easy-mode for gate campers.
then you didn't saw the mobile large warp disruptors yet
It's not really an easy mode if they have to set something up. People who don't want instas/WTZ in 0.0 want it so easy you don't even need a bubble. ----------
IBTL \o/ EVE is upside down! WTZ+Slower Warp=Win |
James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.30 14:20:00 -
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I am not someone who want's to be shooting other players.
I don't like warp to zero. Or instas for that matter. I think EVE would be the better if 15km was the arrival distance, or even further.
Warp to zero is not (just) about combat. It's about the impact it has on imposing travel times:
Jita is close, because I can WTZ there, therefore I got to Jita to save 5% on the cost of my stuff, therefore there is no point in putting anything on the market anywhere else.
Same problem with the entirety of the EVE economy.
When people set up shop in 0.0, they do so away from others, so they're not continually fighting. The distance is _nothing_ to do with number of jumps, and everything to do with how fast the other group can move battleships to skirmish.
It's instas that let alliances claim entire regions, nothing more. Without then they'd be picking on constellations and systems.
It's also instas that create massive gank-camps - it's easy to move 20 battleships to a gate, and you need to do so to actually 'get' someone. Therefore the pirates (and 0.0 politicians) do so.
Imagine if you will that a pirate or blob _cannot_ move battleships easily. They may still do so, or they might come out and play in cruisers instead. Chosing mobility over raw firepower. This actually makes running blockades easier - your BS runs into 5 cruisers and you have a fight, not a gank.
Like all the others, I am adapting to these changed circumstances. But just because I'm developing new tactics to counter 'easy mode' doesn't mean I think 'easy mode' should stay.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.30 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus to move 20 battleships to a gate, and you need to do so to actually 'get' someone.
Fixed. I removed all the stuff that is about speed of ships as opposed to WTZ in particular. ----------
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