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Razed7	Posted - 2006.11.30 20:35:00 - [1] Hey just looking for opinions on Drake pvp setup. Thanks.
LeMoose The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.11.30 20:45:00 - [2] passive tank mwd, bcu's rage ham's what more u want for a solopwnmobile ;)
Amphira The Golden Goose	Posted - 2006.11.30 21:02:00 - [3] Originally by: LeMoose passive tank mwd, bcu's rage ham's what more u want for a solopwnmobile ;) A warp scrambler?
LeMoose The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.11.30 21:06:00 - [4] thats a given ;P
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial	Posted - 2006.11.30 21:18:00 - [5] Originally by: Razed7 Hey just looking for opinions on Drake pvp setup. Thanks. You would set it up like any short range boat. 7 HAMs/ NOS[if it fits] MWD/20 km Scram/web/3 slot passive tank 2 BCU/2 Inertia stabs[or 3 BCU/one I stab] 3 Shield tank or 3 speed rigs Web can be subed for an injector, the 4 slot web+injector setup might be possible with a 2 slot tank with 3 rig slots of tank, not sure though. Im not big on shield tanking or what fits though.
Constantine Arcanum Gallente IMPERIAL SENATE Pure.	Posted - 2006.11.30 21:52:00 - [6] As its a missile boat i don't see there being any point in the webber so i would be inclined to go for the injector. I helped - Cortes What a shiny and lovely place here - Eshtir Well lets make it a party atleast :D -Xorus RAWWWR!11!!1!2 SIG HIJACK!!11!1 I found it first, get orrrfff moiiii laaannnd - Cortes
El Bunny	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:22:00 - [7] HAMs are quite close range, you want the webber :)
Arondor GalacTECH Unlimited	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:37:00 - [8] Originally by: El Bunny HAMs are quite close range, you want the webber :) one word: javelin
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:39:00 - [9] Originally by: Amphira Originally by: LeMoose passive tank mwd, bcu's rage ham's what more u want for a solopwnmobile ;) A warp scrambler? You mean people don't sit there and die like on SISI? Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Blind Man Caldari Kemono.	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:39:00 - [10] Originally by: Arondor Originally by: El Bunny HAMs are quite close range, you want the webber :) 2 words: javelin, overpowered kk Sig removed.\o/ It's great flying Amarr, ain't it?
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:44:00 - [11] Originally by: Arondor Originally by: El Bunny HAMs are quite close range, you want the webber :) one word: javelin You still have to be within 20km to hold them there. No missile boat is going to be able a ship that isnt scamed. The web is more important as it slows the ability of faster ships to run away. E.G. just the other day, i was defending a mining op from a pirate in a raven. i was in a Prophecy. An untanked Prophecy[well, i had 1 small repper on it, and BC 3]. The Raven was 1 year + 1 month old. He was unable to destroy me before I warped out[inertial stabs], unable to hold me in scrambler range [I was orbiting just over 20 km]. The drake wont be doing more damage than a raven[or shouldnt be vs a BC with a 310 sig radius], and it has to get close to keep people there. So yea, you can shoot javs all you want, but it wont really stop me from warping away and it means you cant kill me.
Agriel Kushrenada Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.30 23:05:00 - [12] Originally by: Constantine Arcanum As its a missile boat i don't see there being any point in the webber so i would be inclined to go for the injector. Webber to keep those darn blaster boats away AK
Agriel Kushrenada Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.30 23:08:00 - [13] Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: Razed7 Hey just looking for opinions on Drake pvp setup. Thanks. You would set it up like any short range boat. 7 HAMs/ NOS[if it fits] MWD/20 km Scram/web/3 slot passive tank 2 BCU/2 Inertia stabs[or 3 BCU/one I stab] 3 Shield tank or 3 speed rigs Web can be subed for an injector, the 4 slot web+injector setup might be possible with a 2 slot tank with 3 rig slots of tank, not sure though. Im not big on shield tanking or what fits though. I hope this fits, I believe tech I HAMs already eat 120 pwrgrid per launcher so you'll need a hell of a lot fitting skills. A bit of topic: is there a way to reduce the powr need of the MWD? That would really help AK
Ariel Stardust	Posted - 2006.12.01 01:50:00 - [14] Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: Razed7 Hey just looking for opinions on Drake pvp setup. Thanks. You would set it up like any short range boat. 7 HAMs/ NOS[if it fits] MWD/20 km Scram/web/3 slot passive tank 2 BCU/2 Inertia stabs[or 3 BCU/one I stab] 3 Shield tank or 3 speed rigs Web can be subed for an injector, the 4 slot web+injector setup might be possible with a 2 slot tank with 3 rig slots of tank, not sure though. Im not big on shield tanking or what fits though. Wouldn't your resist be complete crap and you'd be really vulnerable without any Active Hardeners like Invuln field II's?
Ariel Stardust	Posted - 2006.12.01 05:45:00 - [15] Has that suggested setup been tested much? I'm really have troulbe fitting in just the 7 Heavy Assault Launchers's with a MWD... let along Large Shield Extenders's on top of that - can anyone elaborate? =)
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial	Posted - 2006.12.01 06:49:00 - [16] Originally by: Ariel Stardust Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: Razed7 Hey just looking for opinions on Drake pvp setup. Thanks. You would set it up like any short range boat. 7 HAMs/ NOS[if it fits] MWD/20 km Scram/web/3 slot passive tank 2 BCU/2 Inertia stabs[or 3 BCU/one I stab] 3 Shield tank or 3 speed rigs Web can be subed for an injector, the 4 slot web+injector setup might be possible with a 2 slot tank with 3 rig slots of tank, not sure though. Im not big on shield tanking or what fits though. Wouldn't your resist be complete crap and you'd be really vulnerable without any Active Hardeners like Invuln field II's? Passive means "No shield booster" not "no active resist mods"
Tehyarec Erasers inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.01 06:53:00 - [17] Originally by: Goumindong Passive means "No shield booster" not "no active resist mods" Shield booster + active hardeners = active No shield booster + active hardeners = semi-passive No shield booster + passive hardeners = passive
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial	Posted - 2006.12.01 07:06:00 - [18] Originally by: Tehyarec Originally by: Goumindong Passive means "No shield booster" not "no active resist mods" Shield booster + active hardeners = active No shield booster + active hardeners = semi-passive No shield booster + passive hardeners = passive No, the active/passive distinction is entirely based on whether or not it has a booster.
Agriel Kushrenada Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.01 07:27:00 - [19] Edited by: Agriel Kushrenada on 01/12/2006 07:27:53 Originally by: Ariel Stardust Has that suggested setup been tested much? I'm really have troulbe fitting in just the 7 Heavy Assault Launchers's with a MWD... let along Large Shield Extenders's on top of that - can anyone elaborate? =) Exactly what I said, I don't think it fits. with AWU at V your looking at 108 x 7 + 150 = 906 And then you only have your HAMs and MWD.
JUDE LORD Amarr	Posted - 2006.12.01 07:31:00 - [20] Passive Tank, 7 HAMs and 3-4 BCs close range, Dps is good
Romulan Dominiae	Posted - 2006.12.01 09:22:00 - [21] Originally by: Goumindong You still have to be within 20km to hold them there. No missile boat is going to be able a ship that isnt scamed. The web is more important as it slows the ability of faster ships to run away. yay cheers mate, i was always wondering ...
Pinky Denmark	Posted - 2006.12.01 09:40:00 - [22] Until you got minimum AWU 3-4 and trained up nice HAM skills, you should use heavies... An "easy" and strong setup: 7 Heavy Missile Launchers + Medium Nosferatu (if it fits) 3 Large Shield Extenders + 2-3 Hardeners (active or passive EM, Thermal and make the third EM or Kinetic) + 0-1 Warp disruptor 1 RCU/PDS + 3 Shield Power Relay 5 light drones or 1 heavy utility when you have T2 HAM and can use the javelins to hit people at distances, you can use some lowslots for RCU and PDS and try a passive tank with a single Shield Power Relay or cut out 1-2 Large Shield Extenders for a Large Shield Booster and perhaps a mwd with PDS/RCU/BCS in lows It's possible to create a fast Drake with nano and inertia + mwd but tank will be weak - should be fun though... Pinky
Jin Entres Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.05 11:01:00 - [23] Drake (heavies / active / lg crystals) My missileskills: Heavy III, WU III, RL IV, rest I. This fitting won't fit without Malkuth's which are the lowest CPU launchers available. It's quite tanky, though, and manages to put out 230 DPS even with my crappy skills. ---
Lord Zengin	Posted - 2006.12.05 13:26:00 - [24] Originally by: Tehyarec Originally by: Goumindong Passive means "No shield booster" not "no active resist mods" Shield booster + active hardeners = active No shield booster + active hardeners = semi-passive No shield booster + passive hardeners = passive So what about Booster + passive hardeners? -yes i use that setup :)
Ecky X	Posted - 2006.12.05 13:35:00 - [25] Edited by: Ecky X on 05/12/2006 13:38:37 Edited by: Ecky X on 05/12/2006 13:37:29 Edited by: Ecky X on 05/12/2006 13:36:53 Hows about this? 7x HAM 1x NOS (small, if you have poor fitting skills) 1x MWD 1x L SB II 2x Invul 1x Injector 1x Scram 3x Inertia stabs 1x BCU (or damage control) You could probably fit a medium booster and an extender alternatively.
Kate Darieux New Dawn Corp	Posted - 2006.12.05 14:22:00 - [26] Originally by: Lord Zengin Originally by: Tehyarec Originally by: Goumindong Passive means "No shield booster" not "no active resist mods" Shield booster + active hardeners = active No shield booster + active hardeners = semi-passive No shield booster + passive hardeners = passive So what about Booster + passive hardeners? -yes i use that setup :) Uhm... Semi-active? Originally by: JeanPierre You need to examine Minmatar ships bro. No kidding, I tried to Salvage one last night. Took me 20 cycles before the pilot convoed me and told me to stop it.
Tiberius Ilex Caldari GeoTech	Posted - 2006.12.13 11:30:00 - [27] Don't think it fits Ecky 7 HAMLs = 840 MW (AWU 5 = -84 grid) MWD = 150 MW Large Booster T2 = 165 MW Med cap injector = 150 MW Total = 1221. Are there fitting rigs for launcher/booster/injector/MWD PG need - that would make this a viable setup if you can shave enough off...
OmegaDemon New Age Solutions	Posted - 2007.05.09 04:07:00 - [28] Has everyone forgotten that MWDs dont do much for BCs and BSs but increase an already all to huge sig radius?? Thus, not good for pvp. You just take more damage with it.
Liang Nuren Templars of Space CORE.	Posted - 2007.05.09 09:00:00 - [29] Originally by: "Liang Nuren" Drake Heavy Missile Launcher II [40xScourge Fury Heavy Missile] Heavy Missile Launcher II [40xScourge Fury Heavy Missile] Heavy Missile Launcher II [40xScourge Fury Heavy Missile] Heavy Missile Launcher II [40xScourge Fury Heavy Missile] Heavy Missile Launcher II [40xScourge Fury Heavy Missile] Heavy Missile Launcher II [40xScourge Fury Heavy Missile] Heavy Missile Launcher II [40xScourge Fury Heavy Missile] Small Diminishing Power System Drain I Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Shield Recharger II Invulnerability Field II J5 Prototype Warp Inhibitor I Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Ballistic Control System II Rigs : Core Defence Field Purger I \ Core Defence Field Purger I \ Core Defence Field Purger I \ Hobgoblin II Hobgoblin II Hobgoblin II Hobgoblin II Hobgoblin II 16493 shield, 237.34/s, E/T/K/Ex=43/55/66/77 4882 armor, E/T/K/Ex=59/44/25/10 3515.625 cap, +3.75/s, -7.57/s 168.0 m/s 337.5 DPS You can run the scram and hardener for 40 minutes before running out of cap, doing 337.5 DPS, and tanking (424 EM, 1060 Exp, 706 Kin, 530 Thm, 605 Avg). There are probably better setups. For the curious, you'll do 280 DPS, with an alpha around 1000 to Ogre II's, which have [fully maxed, bonused, and resisted] 785 shield HP. Praetor II's (which should be more scary, honestly), have a whopping 560 shields [Again, fully maxed, bonused, and resisted]. I'd say the Drake isn't a bad PVP ship, and I'm sure there's better setups. Its buried in a long post in a big long nerf-whine thread, so I thought I'd just repost it here. I am curious what people have to say about it as a PVP setup though. Liang My opinions are my own, and do not in any way reflect the beliefs of my corp/alliance.
ZuN3 kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.05.09 09:15:00 - [30] Originally by: OmegaDemon Has everyone forgotten that MWDs dont do much for BCs and BSs but increase an already all to huge sig radius?? Thus, not good for pvp. You just take more damage with it. They do enough to make it absolutely compulsory on any solo or small gang ship IMO.

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