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Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.01 07:50:00 - [1] 30.11.06 - Halada proudly presents - Enhanced and completely rewritten 48 pages PDF mining guide Download link (PDF) \| Mirror 1 right click -> save target as I am proud to announce the release of The Complete Miner's Guide, version 2.0. Now offered into a practical PDF format, this new enhanced and completely rewritten 48 pages mining guide is now available to all EVE players for free. After the last version's success, it was clear something more was needed. Ideas and rumors of a website were spread, but due to my very busy new student life, such a project will not be possible. Instead, to celebrate the arrival of Revelations, I wrote this whole new guide for you. This version addressed the issues of the last one, while adding some new content, all delivered into a new PDF presentation. The guide includes new sections, useful links, screenshots, tables and comparative charts to help you and your mining career. The guide's interactive table of contents will allow easy naviguation to find the information you need quickly. Plus, it's was written with a touch of humor I regret to announce that this will no doubt be my last guide as I must retire from EVE. As mentionned, a new student life has cut my playing time. I offer this as a departing gift. I am not permanently leaving, and I will try to make updates when the time allows it, but I will however not be avaialble to answer your questions. I have no doubt you guys will figure all your problems out right here with the same team spirit that gave this guide its true meaning and purpose. Keep living the carebear's dream and enjoy the guide! I wish you all the best in your mining career ! Halada The best mining guide in the galaxy
Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.01 07:53:00 - [2] News & Updates 30.11.06 - Version 2.0 of guide released Version 2.0 was released to coincide with the new expansion Revelations. The guide was completely rewritten with more extensive coverage and updated to reflect new changes. Most important ones: - Pre-requisites for empire ôlow-endsö mining crystals lowered (section 5) - Mining Drone Augmentator Rigs (section 12) - Mining Foreman Mindlink fixed (section 6) - Squadron Command skill replaced by Warfare Link Specialist (section 11) - Bobbit alt gets pwned on the forum by Halada (section 14 and 16)
Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.04 14:00:00 - [3] Originally by: Shreddy Krueger Hal, brilliant guide (still reading it) but one thing I need to address: Why hasn't anyone run numbers for the mining Rokh? 8 turret points, 780 base CPU and a shield resist bonus would surely make it the best mining ship in eve if at least not on par with the Domi/Apoc. The guide was re-written prior to revelations hitting and was only re-edited before publishing. I hadn't checked the Rokh yet and it came only to my attention after publishing the guide. You are absolutely right though, the Rokh is without a single doubt the best battleship to use as a mining platform. Its monster CPU allows you to fit 8 miners, one more MLU than the Apoc and still fit a tank ! It will be added to the guide in a future update, for now however I don't think it would be worth it for me to publish a new version for that change, in fact, the Rokh will mine 5% more than the Apoc, that's it (one extra MLU), so comparative charts and tables can be used for the Rokh or the Apoc as well since the difference is quite minimal. For 0.0 of course the Rokh is the best choice as the Apoc cannot fit a tank when going on full mining setup. The best mining guide in the galaxy
Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.05 17:02:00 - [4] Oups, thanks ! It's not a big mistake since I use the correct yield in the equation (wtf?) but will take note ! Thanks The best mining guide in the galaxy
Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.07 09:35:00 - [5] Originally by: Rumbaar Seems you might have missed this correction in my first post: Section 1.2 minerals, you've missed the 8 Zydrine you get when you refine Jaspet in the yield table. It appears in the erratum already. The best mining guide in the galaxy
Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.07 22:15:00 - [6] Ive extensively tested the Hulks with dozens of setup, no passive setups will be good enought to tank 0.0 rats alone if this is what you are after. The best mining guide in the galaxy
Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.08 10:37:00 - [7] Originally by: Beatrice Belleza So Halada would you like to look at my drones table? Its quite detailed telling how much ore a T2 drone will mine at 15km,10km,5km, ect per hour with max mining skills and drone nav 5. Also shows same info for harvesters, you can change the info I give you if you want to put it in your guide. It is possible the Harvesters will in fact mine slightly more than T2 mining drones, but the margin will be I am sure incredibly small. Drones are very vulnerable, any CTD and the rats will ****your drones, and seeing as Harvesters prices only keep rising for some reason, they are now approaching the 20mil per drone mark and this is scary to think they cost as much as a carrier fighter ! Compared to the 500k retail price of T2 Mining drones, I would not suggest using harvesters ever. Drone naviguation will also affect T2 Mining drones, so the only factor which can be reduced is distance. Post a link to your excel sheet here, hopefully users can have a look at it and when I update my guide I will consider putting it int he guide for the sake of completing the information, I still stand behind my POV that risking 100mil of drones for the very small benefit you get out of them vs T2 Mining drones is not worth it. The best mining guide in the galaxy*
Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.08 10:38:00 - [8] Originally by: Rustayne Talrus Is it just me or did they take out the mining implants? I can't seem to locate them anywhere. I looked in contracts, and on the market, searched in the market, and nothing. It tells me they don't exist. Where they removed? They weren't, I've seen them a few times. Keep looking or browse the sell orders forum, I've seen dozens of michi implants auctions. The best mining guide in the galaxy
Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:30:00 - [9] Harvesters have been long gone as loots, they were steady at 9mil for many months, they are really rocketing now, can't understand why really. What I meant with passive resists won't tank I mean the biggest spawns. I'm quite sure it'll tank the smaller ones, but the active ones will tank any spawn you come across, which is quite reassuring ! The best mining guide in the galaxy
Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.17 11:22:00 - [10] MDCM2 can be used to mine everything, so with the proper crystals itll outmine the miner II of course. The math isnt hard to do. MDCSM2 are the ones used exclusively for Mercoxit The best mining guide in the galaxy

Halada Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.19 13:57:00 - [11] There is no reason you should get scorched for asking a question or proposing an improvement :) Besides your argument is valid. I guess I went with Bantam -> Osprey since they are really good ships, and the Badger is also a better industrial than the early Iterons imho, but if you want feel free to write a new section detailing the differences and I'll add it to the guide at the next version :) The best mining guide in the galaxy
Halada Caldari STK Scientific	Posted - 2007.01.21 18:28:00 - [12] Edited by: Halada on 21/01/2007 18:30:07 I have released version 2.0.1 of the guide. I've added some comments and info on heavily debated subjects, removed some inappropriate content and corrected some mistakes. I've been following the thread and I really do not appreciate people who come here to moan or ***** just for the heck of it without offering constructive criticism. I consider to be the "owner" of this thread since it is the for a piece of work it took me a while to write. I would appreciate if all trolls (trolling is everything from insulting others up to trying to be a smartass by correcting other people's grammar) could stay away from this thread. I believe this thread should remain civilized and helpful since EVE gets new players every day, and I want them to seek guidance in a clean thread. I will not hesitate to contact the mods to have any harmful comments removed. If you feel the urge to show off your e-peen start another thread. Thank you ! MANY thanks for all the mail I have gotten, I was overwhelmed by the number of eve mails I received ! Thank you for showing you care, I'm VERY happy it could help you out. All this work didn't go for nothing I wish you all a happy new year 2007 by the way ! The best mining guide in the galaxy
Halada Caldari STK Scientific	Posted - 2007.01.23 18:47:00 - [13] the equation is accurate only for stations, a POS gives a MAX refining yield of 75% Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari STK Scientific	Posted - 2007.01.24 23:38:00 - [14] Originally by: Orestes Umnon Something that caught my eye and hasn't been mentioned yet (I think), was chapter 9.2: "Since neither [the Hulk nor the Covetor] have any sort of bonus for ice mining, the only advantage of the Hulk over the Covetor is its ability to fit one extra IHU, which means a mere 5% extra reduction in cycle time over the Covetor." Yet last time I checked, the Hulk received a 3% ice harvester duration reduction from the Exhumers skill. Am I missing something or are you? Ohhh WTF? This was recently and silently changed because prior to writing the guide I checked and there were no mention of ice harvesters. This was added out of the blues. Again something that went unnotice because no one thought about writing it in patch notes Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari STK Scientific	Posted - 2007.01.29 15:24:00 - [15] The ice mining actually is covered. As for the high sec ice fields, they are suppose to disappear over time. Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari STK Scientific	Posted - 2007.02.01 09:38:00 - [16] Office 2007 flt. Ill try to fix it Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari STK Scientific INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.08 22:31:00 - [17] You just gave the description for the skill, not the module itself Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari STK Scientific INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.08 23:47:00 - [18] No, the skill decreases the cpu penalty, that's all. The module increases yield by 5%, regardless what level you have for the skill. What am I missing here? Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.02.26 21:54:00 - [19] Halada is for sale Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.07.03 16:18:00 - [20] Edited by: Halada on 03/07/2007 16:20:55 I'm back in EVE - it'll be a casual entertainment, not like before, but I'm part, at least partially ! The guide will receive a substantial update in the upcoming weeks with gas mining, new mining upgrade, corrections to Hulk, updated mining figures, etc... @ Those calling me semi-informed writer,**** off. I knew when writing the guide some half losers probably still living in your mom's basement would be to come in MY thread to practically insult me. Unless English is difficult to understand for you the maths for Harvesters show they are WORSE than T2 and not better. Prove me wrong and I'll call you my master (I'm assuming no changes were made since I left the game though as I have catch-up to do). Click on my sig to read it !

Halada Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.07.03 23:26:00 - [21] Originally by: Pilk As I said up above, Harvies pull in 33% more than T2 in some situations. Thus, unless it takes them an EXTRA 20 seconds to make the round-trip, Harvesters are better. I'm not sitting in a mining ship at the moment, so I don't know if mining drones now MWD back and forth; I'll assume they don't. With Drone Navigation V (it's only Rank 1), a Mining Drone II travels at 750 m/s, and a Harvester at 375 m/s. So long as you're within 3,750m (or about 5 times that if mining drones MWD to/from the rock these days), Harvesters will pull down more ore. Now, let's be realistic for a moment--you're humping the 'roid you're mining with the drones while setting your strips on ones that are further away. Hell, if you really want to get crazy, grab some Mining Drone - Elites. They're the speed of t2, with the mining amount of Harvesters. So, unless you're going to maintain that you're more than 3,750m from a 'roid that you have drones on (in which case you're sacrificing plenty of mining yield to begin with, so this conversation is moot), I believe you owe me a new appellation. --P First, there was no need to call me semi-informed. It really shows respect when you take a jab at someone who took considerable time to compile and write 50 pages of information, then you come in trying to look like Mr. Bigshot ... as far as I know I don't owe you anything either. Second, Harvies pull 33% more than T2, yes, but T2 mining drones are 100% faster. Theorically, if a T2 mining drone brings 10units in 20 seconds, the Harvies will bring 13 in 40 seconds. That's a theorical 1170 units for harvies versus 1800 for T2 mining drones per hour. Now, I don't know how much mining you have done in your life but I'd like to think I pulled my fair share. I can tell you a maxed Hulk pilot (even an advanced Covetor pilot) will run out of roids in its 15km very quickly and will have to move eventually. Belts in 0.0 especially... So you can say you will have roids in range (less than 3,5km) all the time as much as you want it, it's not true and it does not reflect reality AT ALL. FINALLY, harvesters cost 20mil per drone versus for T2, and you are bound to lose drones. It happens. Lose 5 drones it's 100mil out the door, so bye bye profit and the time it will take to pay itself back will take long a long time. Seriously I don't know why people try to refute the arguments, it's clearly and well explained in the guide. You just look at numbers and put them in an ideal position, which is rarely the case, without looking at all the factors, either due to inexperience or lack of knowledge on the matter. It's usually ok, but calling me semi-informed when you are the one not seeing all the angles really ***es me off. Click on my sig to read it !*
Halada Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.07.03 23:27:00 - [22] @Etruscus - fire away mate, I'll have a look at them ! Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.07.04 11:36:00 - [23] You bit, and I bit back. Losing drones is inevitable, and I am more than qualified to know. I have organized, managed full long mining sessions, personal, small, average sized. In 0.0 if you get a hit group of ceptors (say 5x crows) by the time you get the alert they might already be in the system, and you'll have the choice of either saving your Hulk and expansive gear or the drones... The traveling factor is important and I cannot understand why you fail to see it. Maybe you are too young and can grasp the situation, but it will never happen that the traveling factor will be neglected. Finally, even if harvesters would be as fast as T2 and bring in 10% more, you still have to be an idiot to pay 100mil for 5 mining drones. Now I ask you stay out of this thread or I will report you and your posts will be removed nonetheless. This thread is for answering questions related to the guide, or enhance it when clear mistakes were made. The harvester drones section is well explained with mathematical facts, and you just came here wanting to look like Mr Big Guy. If you want to look like Mr Big Guy, write your own guide, or start a new thread in which you can share your opinion and bashing me all you want, I'll gladly ignore it. But this is my thread, I've tried to explain to you and you will not understand. And I owe you absolutely no apology, you were offensive on the first place and it could have been avoided had you shut the hell up or showed respect. Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.07.04 15:37:00 - [24] Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Halada You bit, and I bit back. Forget the rest for a moment. You write a guide, claiming to be the quote-complete-unquote authority on mining. I disagree with your guide. Since your guide relies on the information you possess, I call you ill-informed. Makes sense, right? You write a guide. I claim that guide may be mistaken in two areas you touch on only momentarily--drones and capital ships. You say I live in my mother's basement. Wait, what? Okay, so let's try this again, assuming, in both cases, that the antagonist is incorrect: Person A writes guide->person A is wrong->person A is ill-informed versus Person B disagrees with person A->person B is wrong->person B lives in mother's basement You can't seriously be equating the two progressions, can you? As soon as we figure this out, it'd be my pleasure to finish discussing the relative merits of drones. --P I think you need to get out more and have a social life. You are fixating way too much on a very irrelevant thing. Saying you still live in your mother's basement is my way of calling people like that losers who should move their asses and get a life. By the way you over dramatize things, you sound like someone who takes this game too seriously, and who might fit in my above description. If you took so much offense, either it's true, or you are so offended that a normal human could make the mistake of generalize that you cannot sleep without waiting for a response hoping you can shut me up with an dramatic analysis of every word I wrote. Which is it? I stand behind my guide and I'm proud of it, but it's not perfect as it is mentioned in the guide itself. The point on harvesters and capital ships falls a lot in a matter of opinion, although my opinion is backed by some good mathematical facts. Therefore it's not a matter of misinformation but rather what you make of it. It's my guide, so I wrote what I think backed by GOOD SENSE and maths. You practically insulted me because 1 page out of the 50 you disagree with. You COULD have said ''I think the writer is mistaking about ...''. Calling me mis-informed is insulting and uncalled for. You were an obnoxious ass and I am being the same to you. Now it's your last warning, if you don't drop the matter in this thread, there will be consequences. I ask one last time politely and respectfully. Thank you. Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari State of Shock	Posted - 2007.07.07 11:43:00 - [25] @Etruscus - Thank you for adding yet another mathematical proof. The guide explained in words what you just calculated, but it seems people need proofs in number (that they probably cannot even understand) to convince them. With your permission I will add it to the drone's section to avoid other debates in the likes our little friend started. @Skystar - I love you mate @Drellik Tune - Once, Power Diagnostic System were called Power Diagnostic Unit. Although the name changed, the acronym remained over time. So yes, a PDU2 is the module you mentionned ! Thanks to everyone else for your warm welcome, and the numerous eve-mails as well.. it feels good to be back :) Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari State of Shock	Posted - 2007.07.10 18:23:00 - [26] Originally by: trirok In response to your "capital ships get out mined by a retriever" comment, I present you this: http://www.battleclinic.com/forum/index.php/topic,11189.new.html#new A wyvern with three drone mining rigs (2 T2, 1 T1), mining mindlink implant, gang mod (with squad present) could theoretically out-mine a hulk (disregarding travel time). A waste of money imo, yes, but also rather funny. Isn't a Wyvern a mothership? As for the Hulk I think the Hulk is still the better miner for Ice with the new bonus but I'll see on that Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.07.11 13:45:00 - [27] lol thanks for the laugh mate Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.07.11 15:56:00 - [28] First, thank you all for the numerous welcome back eve mails I received, it's touching, and it's so nice to be back, I'm reminded of why I did that guide on the first place already :) The new version will see the light when it's done, quite simply. To make sure I can respect my word, I'd say definitely before Christmas 2007 As for the Hulks bonus, it how has a bonus to ice mining, which was silently added and not applicable when 2.0.1 was written. There are more details a few posts north of here ! Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.07.11 15:57:00 - [29] @Pilk - When I wrote that guide, the first draft, it was simply ideas I had in my mind that I put into a Word document for myself. Then I thought well, why not make it more comprehensible and share it since it's already all typed out. After all, when I started playing almost two years ago, the community was smaller, and I remember how the guys on the help channel, New Citizen Q&A, and Eve University were so helpful. Not only was EVE an awesome spacesim, but the people were genuinely nice. It was clear EVE was aimed at a much mature audience than say WoW. At 19 I was one of the youngest of my corp (STK Scientific). And this is the main inspiration that pushed me to do it - to give back what others had given me. It didn't take long before the game grew more and more popular. At the time 20K player at once seemed an impossible thought. But the more popular it got, the more idiots there were. The forums started getting flooded with "First!" posts, insults, ridiculous flame wars. I never was a big forum warrior, but every time I came here it seemed there were more immature pestilence ruining it for everyone. It looked like a plague... so I mostly still stay away from the forums today. Just before the whole T20 incident erupted, that was about 2 months after I started medschool, it was clear I would not have the time to play anymore, so I finished the second version I had started. It took me more than 100 hours, but I hate letting unfinished things go, and I thought, it will help many. The whole T20 incident disgusted me to my very core, I had already lost all interest in the game after ASCN dissolved. I thought people like SirMolle and his flaming goons were so pathetic it truly and deeply saddened me. So I posted the guide and left. In-between medschool starting getting harder and harder. I worked 40 hours a week as a freelancer webmaster to pay rent, tuition and everything else, on top of that I had hospital rotations and lectures, and all the studying. Something I discovered about people (in this case dealing with patients) in those long hours of learning to become a doctor, is that there will always be that obnoxious ***** or that obnoxious *, being impolite, rude and uncooperative with nurses and doctors. They think we owe them everything, they think their status as a patient makes them a king or a queen. We all wish we could send them back home, because they are so hated and annoying, not just to the staff, but the other patients around, ruining the atmosphere with their bad mood and manners... but alas we must deal with them nonetheless. You, sir, remind me of those rare exceptions where patients come in and we wish they never had come. You came here, in a thread about a long piece of literature that I wrote for the community, to give back what I received in the past, ridiculing and insulting a part of my guide because you disagreed with it. You came here with no regards for the long hours of work behind it*, thinking you knew better and that it gave you the right to say what you wanted, even if it meant insulting me. You came in even thinking I owed explanations to some of my sentences. Click on my sig to read it !*
Halada Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.07.11 15:58:00 - [30] Edited by: Halada on 11/07/2007 15:58:01 (continued...) In all my life, I have learned that 95% of the people who act like this are people who have no idea what the meaning of the word sacrifice or compromise is. Could you have said what you said differently, in a respectful manner, and have transmitted the same message? Yes you could have. Do you even know there is a way to say things that retain their meaning, but remain respectful? The reason I compared you to someone still living in his motherÆs basement at 25 years old is because I think those people are losers. They are lazy and unthankful people thinking we owe them the World. They have never given an effort for someone else without hoping for something in return. Your attitude reminded me exactly of that, or like those patients we something receive and that we all hate. Why do I even take the time to write all that? Because I seriously think people should be told clearly what is wrong. Some understand only the ôSTFUö language, but there is still a tiny ray of hope within me that believes human beings are capable of understanding their mistakes if they are shown their incorrect ways. I came back after a six months break from EVE, just after I finished writing my finals, thinking yeah, IÆll have a few hours per week to relax now and enjoy that great game with its great community again. Then I read your post à the MINUTE I read it you lost all my respect, if only by your attitude and your words. I think you are a prime example of that is wrong with this game at the moment, and even in the World today. Hypocrites and egocentric people who hover with their ego over what they think is the World, when in fact they hover over their pathetic little persona. It is so frustrating when I work 20 hours shift, and I do my very best to make a patient comfortable, and they will still find a way to ***** about something. The same for you Pilk û there is a fine line between suggesting ameliorations, or criticizing something, and insulting and ridiculing to make your point. And you crossed it, without probably noticing it. Which is the whole point of this long rant. I already spend enough energy dealing with people like you at the hospital, I do not wish to do the same when I come to play EVE, which is something I want to do to enjoy myself, relax and have fun. But as always, there is always a pestilence somewhere that tries to ruin it. If you want to hate me, ridicule or insult me, then please go ahead, but somewhere else. Not in my guideÆs thread. Not here. Is that too much to ask? I hope not. Click on my sig to read it !

Halada Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.07.11 20:38:00 - [31] Edited by: Halada on 11/07/2007 20:38:49 Using a carrier as a mining platform becomes a personal choice at the end, I illustrated my opinion since this is my own guide. This opinion was backed up with facts, and it was written after I received 104 eve-mails asking me what I thought about using a carrier. Now how, but what I thought. So I obliged provided a section about it. The facts are still true - you could have interpreted them yourself. The whole point of this thread Pilk is to make a complete mining guide, and we were doing just that before I read your post. While I was gone though I did not see you run to the pedestal to take over and provide updates yourself though, it was simply easier to bash me. If you felt the guide was so unworthy, and you knew the author had left, why did you not volunteer to write a better one? Maybe you did not expect me to see your post or come back, but I did. You bit, I bit back, and you didn't like it. Fine enough, but if you say I am like the people I described in my two last posts, and are using one page out of the 50 in the guide, and out of god knows how many eve-mails and posts I have written, it's seriously taking it out of context and isn't appropriate at all. Your post felt somewhat of an apology, so I will accept it in the hope that kind of talk will never arise in this thread again. Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.07.12 19:36:00 - [32] I agree some sections need fixing, so the capital ship section will be completely re-written to be more objective as you pointed out. I still firmly believe the carrier is a support ship that can do very little alone however, but it's clear carriers are becoming more accessible now, and even a pair of them could do well with some AFK mining with little risks ... But if I was in the shoes of someone really willing to make money out of mining, I'd mine until I have enough to buy a Hulk pilot, and have him mine, with the carrier tanking the belt, with half its fighters out assigned to the Hulk, the Hulk within its remote repairer range and the Hulk already locked so if it gets called first by a small hit'n'run pirates group, the Hulk gets repaired and can lock the targets faster than the carrier and send the fighters in (that is, if the attackers have the balls to take on the Hulk. Hell, I remember once, I was tanking angels in my Hulk, and a Taranis popped in the belt and started orbiting at blaster's range. I was tanking both Angels and Taranis ... ROFL With the Hulk's drop in price, buying a 10milSP mining char to go with it is a serious and very good investment. When I quit EVE I had sold all my chars, but with the proper toon army, you can be self sufficient with multiple accounts and characters with GTC, and it doesn't cost a dime. Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.07.14 08:49:00 - [33] So tell me how you would use your carrier then... Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.07.14 23:01:00 - [34] You got me to think... now that freighter can load stuff at POS... and the rigs... I like your ideas... I'll come back later on that! Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.21 23:35:00 - [35] Eve-File no longer allows direct saving and the mirror is down ... lolerzs for eve file you need to click to open in browser then save... stupid if you ask me. Ill change it soon! Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.22 21:54:00 - [36] THE NEW MINING UPGRADES ARE DISABLED AND DO NOT WORK They will be fixed in the next static content patch rev 2.2. DO NOT BUY THEM! Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.08.01 10:08:00 - [37] It works exactly as expeced Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.08.05 12:57:00 - [38] I cannot say now... I just moved back to Canada and have a LOT to do at the moment, I hope I can release it this month. Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.03 05:34:00 - [39] Now that I almost done, I can give an estimate release date about version 2.2 of the guide. It will be approximately 65 pages and should be released no later than September 16th 2007. Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.09 23:40:00 - [40] The Rorqual will be fully covered over three pages with screenshots and explanations of its modules and strenghts/weaknesses. Click on my sig to read it !

Halada Caldari Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.16 04:33:00 - [41] Letting you know there might be a delay in this guide ... Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.24 11:39:00 - [42] I've been set back in the writing... I had a last-minute offer to move in another faculty 5 hours from where I lived, relocation proved long and difficult. I'm all settled in now. This past week-end I'd say I wrote quite a lot. However, I am still not satisfied with the Rorqual and the Role of other Capitals section... otherwise the rest is pretty much ready! I'd rather not say when the new version comes out but I'm hoping within 15 days, hopefully sooner... I also thank you for proposing to help me, but I do things a certain way and I'm afraid this is a solo process. Thanks for your patience :) Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.07 02:17:00 - [43] Edited by: Halada on 07/10/2007 02:18:31 The Complete Miner's Guide 2.2 now available ! New version is now released and available via front page. As stated, there might be some formatting or typos around. I didn't have the time to go over it a few dozen times, and since I have exams coming up, I wanted to publish what I consider 99% of the finished guide. The remaining 1% is polishing which isn't too urgent. Besides, you can all stop asking me when it comes out ! I will be silently (as in update the pdf online without saying) correct typos and other minor mistakes overtime. If any major changes appear, you will be notified via the carebear news center (2nd post). Comments and feedbacks are welcome, as always. Enjoy PS. All links work again, so the PDF is once more fully interactive. Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.09 01:55:00 - [44] The 63mil /hour is without rorqual and new upgrades Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.14 16:23:00 - [45] Wow thanks for the gangmods, hadn't even noticed ! And no problem for the translation:) Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.15 15:30:00 - [46] If you read the guide carefully, I purposefully did not include the the MDCM2 since usually, those who are casual miners won't specialize into crystals and will do the smart thing and move to a covetor as soon as possible. The guide didn't say it was the best you can do in a Rokh, it said it was better than the Apoc for the same variants. Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.20 19:36:00 - [47] works for me! Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.02.10 18:42:00 - [48] The link still works fine Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.02.17 21:57:00 - [49] This summer, at the earliest Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.03.02 03:18:00 - [50] Edited by: Halada on 02/03/2008 03:20:49 I have been nominated for best guide writer of the year at the eon awards, second time Thanks to whoever voted for me! On a second note, I am working on a new version again. - correcting mistakes - character creation - new gang links - more in depth section on gang mining, like should I use my hulk or boost, when is it worth it, etc. ETA is unknown! Click on my sig to read it !

Halada Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.03.27 02:00:00 - [51] Originally by: vanBuskirk Just one thing, and it might already have been covered - I don't have the time to read a huge thread like this! Not all Empire stations have 50% base. Some of them, last time I looked, have only 30% base. IIRC, they are the ones that have absolutely everything including medical and labs. Example; the two Kaalakiota stations in Heorah. Most people will check before refining, but possibly not everyone will do so before piling up the ore! That's already mentioned in the guide. There are even tables for each equipment refinery. You fail at reading skills Click on my sig to read it !
Halada	Posted - 2008.03.30 23:53:00 - [52] Originally by: Moridrex OK so I'm curious, because I can't seem to find any definitive answers and I can't fly command ships yet... But is it possible to fit three Laser Optimisation gang links on a fleet command, turn them all on and have their effects stack for the hulk fleet? Has anyone tested this? (I would but I can't fly a command for another 70 days :( ) And Halada...when there is a tested answer to this perhaps we could get it in the command ship section of the guide...so that those of us who use it as a mining bible of sorts have our answer right there. :) Sadly know. It used to appear in the description that the bonus applied was not stackable. You can just activate one :) http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=434899 Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.[/url] Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Lone Star Joint Venture	Posted - 2008.05.06 03:08:00 - [53] The link works for me fine but since others have had some issues I will try and mirror it elsewhere ! Otherwise I'm letting you know v3.0 has been put on ice for now ! It showed good progress with an added 10 pages, strategies on how to further use the rorqual, fleet bonuses and when to use which ship (ex. when is it worth it to replace a hulk by a gang booster), etc. Time is too short, I hope this summer will let me do this :) Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Caldari Lone Star Joint Venture	Posted - 2008.05.06 03:09:00 - [54] Originally by: Tristan Ray Edited by: Tristan Ray on 27/04/2008 22:01:44 Minor question that I didn't see addressed in the thread ... On Pg 44 (sec 11.2) of the guide, it states that the bonus to a gang is +29% given Mining Director 5, Mindlink, and Warfare Link Spec 5 in concert with the Laser Opt gang module. Isn't this just the bonus to the laser cycle times? Isn't the bonus actually the +29% plus 15% from Mining Foreman 5 (+10% x 1.5 for the Mindlink)? Making the gang bonus in the example actually +48% or so? Other than that, it's an excellent guide ... I wish I had found it sooner in my mining career ... 29% is for the link's bonus alone, not the other bonuses. You misread it. Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Lone Star Joint Venture	Posted - 2008.06.07 18:10:00 - [55] I'm now in vacation and would like, soon, to update the guide significantly. Some sections were edited but no longer make sense, and the new market crash deserves a section dedicated to economy and manufacturing. I have read ALL of your comments and taken notes to change what I can. Hopefully I can have this done this summer, but 64 pages is already heavy, adding another 10 will seem EXTREME PS. Sticky got nerfed :( Click on my sig to read it !
Halada Lone Star Joint Venture	Posted - 2008.06.23 01:54:00 - [56] That was written two years ago and has changed since then. However Omber isn't faction specific hence why I chose Omber. ★ LSJV now recruiting ★
Halada Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.07.04 17:30:00 - [57] Edited by: Halada on 04/07/2008 17:30:43 Originally by: Belgarath Drakara Hey, I just got the link to your guide with the payback calculation for the hulk, because I said at the current market prices 20m/h is the max from roid mining. Well your calculation is wrong, because you calculated with 60 cycle/h instead of only 20. One cycle with stip miners takes 180s. But it took me a while to convince the person who linked your great guide, that you made a misstake :p But if noone noticed it within 2 years, who cares. I just wanted to let you know... Yes and the Hulk also has three strips, not one, so you do get 60 cycles... so you lost a lot of time trying to convince you friend, hopefully it won't take as long to say: NEVERMIND ★ LSJV now recruiting ★
Halada Caldari Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2008.07.22 03:22:00 - [58] fixed ★ LSJV now recruiting ★
Halada Caldari Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2008.07.27 20:52:00 - [59] Originally by: Orion L'Oursien Originally by: Adre Guls i dont get it :) .. why stop the strips ? just run them and let them running For exemple, you are mining with 3 strip miners (yield 1500 m3). That is 4500 m3 per 180 sec. If the roid you are mining got only 1500 m3 minerals, you will lost 120 secondes. If you stop your strips each 60 secs, the roid will disappear the first time, saving you 120 secs. So? Assign one different roid for each strip and mine the big roids only. You shouldn't have to stop them yourself, if they do stop then just switch to another roid and life goes on. ★ LSJV now recruiting ★
Halada Caldari Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2008.11.23 22:56:00 - [60] Edited by: Halada on 23/11/2008 22:55:59 Originally by: ZergCow The first formula is the one i made in excel and am currently using (unable to check its accuracy via eve because i am at work) The second formula is taken from the Guide. Page 32 (that is section 7 i think) But the formula in the guide has one number wrong which i fixed in the one you quoted above. The equation on page 32 is 360 * 1.25 * 1.25 * 1.15 * 1.15 * 1.15 * 1.05 * 1.05 * 1.05^2 * 1.75 = 1819.75 m3/cycle 360 = base cycle 1.25 = Astro V 1.25 = Mining V 1.15 = Barge V 1.15 = Exhumer 5 1.15 = Mining Foreman V with the Mindlink 1.05 = Highwall Implant 1.05 = Michi Implant 1.05^2 = Upgrades x2 1.75 = T2 Crystal 1.10 does not appear anywhere in the guide if you search for it! Looks like you looked at a wrong place. ★ LSJV now recruiting ★

Halada Caldari Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2008.11.24 06:09:00 - [61] That's why the equation is 1.05^2 and not 1.05 x 2 ... 1.05^2 = 1.05 * 1.05 ★ LSJV now recruiting ★
Halada Caldari Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.02.04 21:57:00 - [62] I'm currently writing version 3.0 and is going slowly. It will be three times the size of the mining guide because it will cover industry almost entirely. Expected release date is March 10th with a revision to account for T3 1 month later. ★ LSJV now recruiting ★

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