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Karodnotos
Caldari SOM
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Posted - 2006.12.01 12:19:00 -
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Didnt find a thread about this, so maybe it would be useful to have a list for the Devs about which items are missing in the contracts system. i will update this thread regularely and check every item listed if the thread keeps running.
So i make a start:
Mining Foreman Mindlink Quao Kale [COSMOS] Encoded Lai Dai Reports [COSMOS] ___________________ Eve Wiki | dont forget |

Karodnotos
Caldari SOM
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Posted - 2006.12.01 21:42:00 -
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Nobody else thinks this a good idea? Am i the only one who likes boring lists? 
Added Encryption Methods and Highwalls to the list ___________________ Eve Wiki | dont forget |
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Jiekon

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Posted - 2006.12.01 21:45:00 -
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do you mean missing from the market?
If so, then yes, this is a great idea. Many of the items listed are on our "to fix" list. ___________________________ ~Jiekon
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Karodnotos
Caldari SOM
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Posted - 2006.12.01 21:52:00 -
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Edited by: Karodnotos on 01/12/2006 21:55:39 Edited by: Karodnotos on 01/12/2006 21:55:18 Wow, a Dev response in my thread 
When searching for "item type" in the contract system, you cannot find these items, so you have to search for them by title.
Thats my list about.
edit: dont know if its the same than your "to fix" list though ___________________ Eve Wiki | dont forget |

Aran Cole
Minmatar Xerxes Enterprises Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.12.01 22:04:00 -
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Add the Firetail and Slicer for sure. I imagine the other Faction Frigs are missing as well. _______________________
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Lord Darkness
Viziam
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Posted - 2006.12.01 22:10:00 -
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What about fraction goodies like True Sansha, Dread Guiristas gear? Having these available on the market would be a huge benefit.
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Pottsey
Gallente Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2006.12.01 22:11:00 -
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Yan Jung skill books cannot be sold on the market. Passive shield tanking guide click here |

Corina Chiriac
Quam Singulari Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.01 22:16:00 -
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+5 implants are missing too from contracts
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Karodnotos
Caldari SOM
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Posted - 2006.12.01 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Darkness What about fraction goodies like True Sansha, Dread Guiristas gear? Having these available on the market would be a huge benefit.
I get lots of hits when searching for DG or TS. They are missing from the market, but you can search for them in the contracts system. ___________________ Eve Wiki | dont forget |

Endlos Null
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.12.01 22:47:00 -
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Faction Ships Missing: Machariel Nightmare Ashimuu Phantasm
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Karodnotos
Caldari SOM
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Posted - 2006.12.01 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Endlos Null Faction Ships Missing: Machariel Nightmare Ashimuu Phantasm
Thanks for the input. Checked and added. ___________________ Eve Wiki | dont forget |

Hllaxiu
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.12.01 23:06:00 -
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Edited by: Hllaxiu on 01/12/2006 23:09:00
Originally by: Jiekon do you mean missing from the market?
No. Go to "Available contracts", go to "show more" then under item type put in one of the above items, a window pops up complaining "Your query returned no legitimate item types. Please try again." - this despite there being an item in the game with that exact name. Many of these items also cannot be sold on market. Many items allowed in contracts are not on market, but can be sold through contracts, examples include faction, deadspace and officer loot.
So, to clarify: there are three categories of items with regards to sales: 1. cannot be sold on market, cannot be sold via contracts - all items in this post 2. cannot be sold on market, can be sold via contracts - examples include officer, deadspace and faction items. 3. can be sold on market, can be sold via contracts - "normal" stuff.
EDIT: Just to clarify the severity of the problem with these items, these items cannot searched for. This means that when someone wants to sell one of these items, they must either start a forum thread in sell orders (there were over 14 pages yesterday), spam a trade channel, or use a different out of game mechanic way to connect buyer and seller. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson |

herot
Icarus Ascendant
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Posted - 2006.12.01 23:14:00 -
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"Elite Drone AI", is also missing...
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Karodnotos
Caldari SOM
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Posted - 2006.12.01 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: herot "Elite Drone AI", is also missing...
Dont know wtf this is, but added it 
And thanks for the very good clarification Hllaxiu, this should answer most questions. ___________________ Eve Wiki | dont forget |

St Dragon
Blood Association of Dragons
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Posted - 2006.12.01 23:23:00 -
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I know this is off topic but how about giving us the abillaty to scan all regions for an item instead of just one at a time. -----------------------------------------------
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand |

Karodnotos
Caldari SOM
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Posted - 2006.12.01 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: St Dragon I know this is off topic but how about giving us the abillaty to scan all regions for an item instead of just one at a time.
There are already various threads discussing this issue. For example this one. Im sure the Devs read them and know about the opinion of the player base. So thanks for your post, but please stay on topic.  ___________________ Eve Wiki | dont forget |

Gnep
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Posted - 2006.12.01 23:38:00 -
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Have bug reported already btw. Oh, and I think Cynabal is missing from your list :) Thanks for the thread.
Gnep
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Karodnotos
Caldari SOM
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Posted - 2006.12.01 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: Gnep Have bug reported already btw. Oh, and I think Cynabal is missing from your list :) Thanks for the thread.
Gnep
Um... bug report... shame on me, didnt do one  Cynabal - Checked and added. ___________________ Eve Wiki | dont forget |

Karodnotos
Caldari SOM
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Posted - 2006.12.02 17:54:00 -
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Friendly bump for all who didnt see this list before. 
Feel free to report more missing items. ___________________ Eve Wiki | dont forget |

Sphynx Stormlord
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Posted - 2006.12.02 18:04:00 -
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Another implant to add to the list: Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-link (note this is different from Zor's custom navigation link; +5% ab/mwd speed rather than +10% duration).
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Karodnotos
Caldari SOM
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Posted - 2006.12.02 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Sphynx Stormlord Another implant to add to the list: Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-link (note this is different from Zor's custom navigation link; +5% ab/mwd speed rather than +10% duration).
Checked and added - thanks for your input! ___________________ Eve Wiki | dont forget |

Kirov VIII
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Posted - 2006.12.02 21:41:00 -
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Odgin's Coordination implant miss too ...
It's a +6% tracking speed.
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Karodnotos
Caldari SOM
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Posted - 2006.12.02 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: Kirov VIII Odgin's Coordination implant miss too ...
It's a +6% tracking speed.
Yep, Ogdin's Eye Coordination Enhancer is missing, checked and added!
Search by title for "implant" if you want to buy one. The seller missed to repeat the name of the item in the title, so you cannot find it when you search for "Ogdin" in the title.
Thx for that, the list is getting longer. I hope a Dev/GM will take a look and add these items asap. ___________________ Eve Wiki | dont forget |

Ryas Nia
Minmatar Stormriders Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2006.12.03 01:41:00 -
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umm... if your not getting anything when you search its because no one has put one up for sale... try looking in different regions.
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Vandervecken Smith
Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.03 01:56:00 -
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The Ice Harvester 3% cycle time implant, "Hardwiring - Inherent Implants 'Yeti' BX-1" is also missing
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Karodnotos
Caldari SOM
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Posted - 2006.12.03 02:36:00 -
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Originally by: Ryas Nia umm... if your not getting anything when you search its because no one has put one up for sale... try looking in different regions.
I always say "checked and added", so this is how i check items: - I search for the item by title with some variations until i found it (this means somebody put it for sale). - Then i look at the contract and i get the 'official' name of the item. - The last step is to enter a part of the official name in the "search by item" box and search for it. - If nothing is found there, the item is "checked".
Its a bug, several items cannot be searched in the contract system. Look at Hllaxiu¦s post above, he explained it very good.
Originally by: Vandervecken Smith The Ice Harvester 3% cycle time implant, "Hardwiring - Inherent Implants 'Yeti' BX-1" is also missing
Not only the Hardwiring - Inherent Implants 'Yeti' BX-1 is missing, but also the Hardwiring - Inherent Implants 'Yeti' BX-2. Checked and added.
Thanks for your effort! ___________________ Eve Wiki | dont forget |

PunkFish
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Posted - 2006.12.03 11:50:00 -
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You can place a T2 BPO into exchange contract, but can't select one in the wanted list.
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Karodnotos
Caldari SOM
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Posted - 2006.12.03 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: PunkFish You can place a T2 BPO into exchange contract, but can't select one in the wanted list.
That seems to be the same search as in the main contracts window, so i tested it. (Un)fortunately, i couldnt confirm this bug. I could add a Hammerhead II BPO and a Miner II BPO.
Could you give me the full description of the BPO you mean? ___________________ Eve Wiki | dont forget |

Rakeris
Legio VIII
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Posted - 2006.12.03 18:40:00 -
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Great idea! ---------- I gave up on sigs. As all the beatings are starting to hurt and leave nasty bruises. |

Karodnotos
Caldari SOM
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Posted - 2006.12.04 13:38:00 -
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I added a bunch of COSMOS items. Thought all of them were missing, but the COSMOS cloaking devices are listed...
Anything else is missing? ___________________ Eve Wiki | dont forget |

DukeJoost1
The Last Solution Inc
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Posted - 2006.12.04 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Hllaxiu Edited by: Hllaxiu on 01/12/2006 23:09:00
Originally by: Jiekon do you mean missing from the market?
No. Go to "Available contracts", go to "show more" then under item type put in one of the above items, a window pops up complaining "Your query returned no legitimate item types. Please try again." - this despite there being an item in the game with that exact name. Many of these items also cannot be sold on market. Many items allowed in contracts are not on market, but can be sold through contracts, examples include faction, deadspace and officer loot.
So, to clarify: there are three categories of items with regards to sales: 1. cannot be sold on market, cannot be sold via contracts - all items in this post 2. cannot be sold on market, can be sold via contracts - examples include officer, deadspace and faction items. 3. can be sold on market, can be sold via contracts - "normal" stuff.
EDIT: Just to clarify the severity of the problem with these items, these items cannot searched for. This means that when someone wants to sell one of these items, they must either start a forum thread in sell orders (there were over 14 pages yesterday), spam a trade channel, or use a different out of game mechanic way to connect buyer and seller.
escrow failed because it was a large list, sortable but not searchable.
contracts will fail unless it is both sortable AND searchable.
limiting the market to some items and limiting escrow to other items is unacceptable. please make it possible to buy and sell and search on the MARKET all faction, officer, cosmos, named items in the game  
this will avoid overloading the contracts system , using it for item exchanges and auctions.
and as a consequence the overloading of the Jita tradehub system, making all our eve lives better.
PS. bring back the cans tuesday 
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slabby
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Posted - 2006.12.04 19:23:00 -
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how about:
strip miner I BPO...?
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Karodnotos
Caldari SOM
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Posted - 2006.12.04 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: DukeJoost1 sthg off topic
I appreciate your opinion, but unfortunately it is off topic. Please discuss your issue in another thread, this one is only for maintaining the list of the missing items in the contracts system.
Not more. Not less. Thx ___________________ Eve Wiki | dont forget |

Karodnotos
Caldari SOM
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Posted - 2006.12.04 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: slabby how about:
strip miner I BPO...?
Heh, nice idea. Its been missing from the normal market for ages aswell.
Its missing so i will add it  ___________________ Eve Wiki | dont forget |

Karodnotos
Caldari Tides of Silence
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:26:00 -
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With todays patch, several items have been added.
Check out!
Thx for this Devs and try to add the missing implants and faction ships.  ___________________ Eve Wiki | dont forget |

Karodnotos
Caldari Tides of Silence
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Posted - 2006.12.06 08:04:00 -
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A bump in the morning for another timezone 
Will only bump again for changes in the list now. So bookmark if you need the information here  ___________________ Eve Wiki | dont forget |

Arushia
Nova Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.09 04:19:00 -
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Missing COSMOS item: 'Meditation' Medium Armor Repairer ---- I acknowledge that this post reflects upon my corp, even if I claim it does not. |

Karodnotos
Caldari Tides of Silence
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Posted - 2006.12.09 04:37:00 -
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Originally by: Arushia Missing COSMOS item: 'Meditation' Medium Armor Repairer
Checked and added. Thx for submission! ___________________ Eve Wiki | dont forget |

Karodnotos
Caldari Tides of Silence
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Posted - 2006.12.15 02:35:00 -
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The missing implants have been added to the contracts system.
No change at the Faction Ships and COSMOS BPCs.
Is this intended or will it be fixed Devs? ___________________ Eve Wiki | dont forget |

Karodnotos
Caldari Tides of Silence Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2007.01.22 00:03:00 -
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Sorry for bumping this thread, but the problem still isnt solved.
GMs, how do you buy a daredevil for example?
I cant search for it in the market, thats ok. but: I also cant search for it by "item type" in contracts.
Currently there are only 2 ways: 1. Buy it from the forums. 2. Hope, that there is a contract with the description "daredevil" in the title. Then search by title. ___________________ Eve Wiki | dont forget |

Forsch
Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.22 00:31:00 -
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Edited by: Forsch on 22/01/2007 00:27:40
Originally by: Karodnotos Khanid Navy Frigate [frigate]
Khanid Navy Frigate? Since when can this be obtained? And how?
Forsch Defender of the empire
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Sphynx Stormlord
Gallente Anqara Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.22 00:57:00 -
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Are any of the tech 2 rig bp's searchable? I remember having difficulty with them.
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Soporo
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Posted - 2007.01.22 01:47:00 -
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I have a total asss of a time just finding any rigs at all. |

Karodnotos
Caldari Tides of Silence Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2007.01.22 02:46:00 -
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Edited by: Karodnotos on 22/01/2007 02:44:17
Originally by: Forsch Edited by: Forsch on 22/01/2007 00:27:40
Originally by: Karodnotos Khanid Navy Frigate [frigate]
Khanid Navy Frigate? Since when can this be obtained? And how?
Usually i test all the items i add by typing into the "title" field and search then. If there is a (valid) result, the item exists and can be bought. I cannot find any Khanid Navy items in The Forge right now, maybe i made a mistake. I will investigate that.
Originally by: Sphynx Stormlord Are any of the tech 2 rig bp's searchable? I remember having difficulty with them.
I searched for 1 of them and didnt find it, so i assume you are right. I will add it tommorrow (its almost 4AM here ).
Originally by: Soporo I have a total asss of a time just finding any rigs at all.
The problem with rigs is, you cannot search for "rigs", so you have to know how the rig is called and search then. For example: "Core Defence Operational Solidifier" or a part of the name. There are not much for sale i think and you might not actually find one in contracts, but thats not a bug in the contracts system. Maybe some are missing, i only tested the above mentioned 
Thanks for your input! ___________________ Eve Wiki | dont forget |

PunkFish
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Posted - 2007.01.22 10:30:00 -
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Originally by: Karodnotos
Originally by: PunkFish You can place a T2 BPO into exchange contract, but can't select one in the wanted list.
That seems to be the same search as in the main contracts window, so i tested it. (Un)fortunately, i couldnt confirm this bug. I could add a Hammerhead II BPO and a Miner II BPO.
Could you give me the full description of the BPO you mean?
Contracts / Item Exchange. Then you select let's say a Quake S BPO from your hangars. All ok till now. But then you want a Null S BPO in exchange. In the "i want the following items" field you enter "Null S". And then you only get "Null S (charge)" and a non related item. No option to select Null S BPO.
This could be because BPOs are unpackaged after being used, and different ME/PE than brand new ones... But still, would be nice if you could trade them this way.
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Kai DeathCutter
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Posted - 2007.01.22 12:00:00 -
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T2 mining crystal BPOs
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Karodnotos
Caldari Tides of Silence Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2007.01.22 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Kai DeathCutter T2 mining crystal BPOs
Checked and added.
Originally by: PunkFish Contracts / Item Exchange. Then you select let's say a Quake S BPO from your hangars. All ok till now. But then you want a Null S BPO in exchange. In the "i want the following items" field you enter "Null S". And then you only get "Null S (charge)" and a non related item. No option to select Null S BPO.
This could be because BPOs are unpackaged after being used, and different ME/PE than brand new ones... But still, would be nice if you could trade them this way.
Its not because the BPO is packaged/unpackaged. Its worse. You cant search for a Null S BPO. I did some research and there are more T2 charges that you cant search for by item type.
Again, thanks for all your input.
DEVs, where are players supposed to trade their T2 BPOs? Faction ships? I thought it should all be in game. Please give us a hint if this is intended or if the items will be added in future (and when). ___________________ Eve Wiki | dont forget |

Black Torment
Caldari Black Omega Security The OSS
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Posted - 2007.01.22 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Karodnotos
Originally by: Kai DeathCutter T2 mining crystal BPOs
Checked and added.
Originally by: PunkFish Contracts / Item Exchange. Then you select let's say a Quake S BPO from your hangars. All ok till now. But then you want a Null S BPO in exchange. In the "i want the following items" field you enter "Null S". And then you only get "Null S (charge)" and a non related item. No option to select Null S BPO.
This could be because BPOs are unpackaged after being used, and different ME/PE than brand new ones... But still, would be nice if you could trade them this way.
Its not because the BPO is packaged/unpackaged. Its worse. You cant search for a Null S BPO. I did some research and there are more T2 charges that you cant search for by item type.
Again, thanks for all your input.
DEVs, where are players supposed to trade their T2 BPOs? Faction ships? I thought it should all be in game. Please give us a hint if this is intended or if the items will be added in future (and when).
Same goes for the BPCs you get from mission offers. Caldari Navy Raven, Republic Fleet Tempest etc, only the ships not the blueprints.
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Duke Val'Doom
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Posted - 2007.03.26 14:26:00 -
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I can't seem to bring up the Desperado Spur when trying to make a wanted add in contracts...maybe I'm doing something wrong? Or has it been taken off the list again?
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Leandro Salazar
Bravehearts Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.01 15:40:00 -
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Ogdin's Eye Coordination Enhancer seems to have gone missing from the contracts item pool again. --------- There is no 'n' in turret There is no 'r' in faction There is no 'a' in Kestrel There is no 'e' in Caldari
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Karodnotos
Caldari Tides of Silence
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Posted - 2007.04.01 16:06:00 -
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Edited by: Karodnotos on 01/04/2007 16:04:14 Nice to see people are still reading this thread 
I stopped refreshing the list a while ago as it doesnt seem to help fixing the problem.
Bug reports submitted by various people, but items are still missing after 4 months 
Im not a database administrator, but is it so hard to add some items? It worked with some of them before 
If people are still interested in this list i may continue refreshing though.
edit: Items disappear again after being added?? Why?
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Ailuj Nostrebor
Minmatar ORKS
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Posted - 2007.04.03 08:07:00 -
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Michi seems to have fallen off contracts with the last patch when the highwalls and yetis were added to the market
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.04.03 08:11:00 -
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good idea hope it all gets fixed sooner and faster :)
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Wendat Huron
Lupus Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.03 08:30:00 -
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I'd rather not have them being tradable at all in high sec systems but using Black Market skill in a select low and no sec systems.
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