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Black Pedro Yammerschooner 1208	Posted - 2015.07.18 12:33:53 - [31] - Quote Rah McGee wrote: Black Pedro wrote: So you want a new player who decides to play the game as a criminal to fly to nullsec, spend a couple hundred million on some POS that they can't even deploy in highsec. Yeah, that's balanced. I can't see that having any affect on the number of criminals operating in the game. Stop bs pls. A new player can't gank by himself. And yes, if he decides to be a criminal he shouldn't be able to dock. If I decide to go WH as a new player I can't start whining that I can't dock there and it is too hard etc. Criminals are in the game by design. Suicide ganking is an intended mechanic; this has been confirmed by CCP many times. They are there to provide player-driven risk in highsec. You are suggesting an "idea" that raises the bar of ganking to the point that only the most dedicated, organized and established players will be able to do it. And you have offered no reason for such a drastic change in game balance. Good luck on getting that "idea" implemented.
Kenrailae Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships. 438	Posted - 2015.07.18 12:37:07 - [32] - Quote Ganking is not the problem. Lazy and careless pilots are. I support the removal of these hazardous individuals from the space lanes. The Law is a point of View
Rah McGee Lords and Ladies of event horizon H.O.M.E. Coalition 2	Posted - 2015.07.18 12:41:35 - [33] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: Criminals are in the game by design. Suicide ganking is an intended mechanic; this has been confirmed by CCP many times. They are there to provide player-driven risk in highsec. Them not being able to dock doesn't restrict them from ganking, so this is not even an argument. Black Pedro wrote: You are suggesting an "idea" that raises the bar of ganking to the point that only the most dedicated, organized and established players will be able to do it. And you have offered no reason for such a drastic change in game balance. Ofc I did. It is simply illogical that criminals who cannot stay anywhere safe in a solar system can safely dock, ressuply and use stations for their criminal activities.
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 1208	Posted - 2015.07.18 12:45:43 - [34] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: You are suggesting an "idea" that raises the bar of ganking to the point that only the most dedicated, organized and established players will be able to do it. And you have offered no reason for such a drastic change in game balance. Ofc I did. It is simply illogical that criminals who cannot stay anywhere safe in a solar system can safely dock, ressuply and use stations for their criminal activities.[/quote] "Logic" is not a game balance reason. Far too many things are illogical in this game, starting with the infallibility of CONCORD itself.
Rah McGee Lords and Ladies of event horizon H.O.M.E. Coalition 2	Posted - 2015.07.18 12:47:58 - [35] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: [quote=Black Pedro] "Logic" is not a game balance reason. Far too many things are illogical in this game, starting with the infallibility of CONCORD itself. Yeah sure, lets defy logic for balance sake.
Valkin Mordirc 1252	Posted - 2015.07.18 12:52:12 - [36] - Quote Rah McGee wrote: Black Pedro wrote: [quote=Black Pedro] "Logic" is not a game balance reason. Far too many things are illogical in this game, starting with the infallibility of CONCORD itself. Yeah sure, lets defy logic for balance sake. Logically EVE spaceships could only fly in one trajectory, instead of like a plane Logically the sun would burn a ship up, instead of bouncing off. Logically the amount of 'near earth' planets in EVE would be far fewer Logically going into a WH with a blackhole would mean death Logically you shouldn't be able to zip between solar systems. WHO WANT TO BE LOGICAL AND TRAVEL AT LIGHT SPEED TO JITA AND AMARR NOT FUCKIN ME `#DeleteTheWeak`
Rah McGee Lords and Ladies of event horizon H.O.M.E. Coalition 2	Posted - 2015.07.18 12:59:47 - [37] - Quote Valkin Mordirc wrote: Logically EVE spaceships could only fly in one trajectory, instead of like a plane Logically the sun would burn a ship up, instead of bouncing off. Logically the amount of 'near earth' planets in EVE would be far fewer Logically going into a WH with a blackhole would mean death Logically you shouldn't be able to zip between solar systems. WHO WANT TO BE LOGICAL AND TRAVEL AT LIGHT SPEED TO JITA AND AMARR NOT FUCKIN ME you are mistaking reality for plausibility. With the given set of rules or laws all that you have nemtioned above is completetely plausible and for that logical. Criminals hunted everywhere but not on stations in high sec by police is completely implausible and for that illogical.
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 1210	Posted - 2015.07.18 13:15:49 - [38] - Quote Rah McGee wrote: you are mistaking reality for plausibility. With the given set of rules or laws all that you have nemtioned above is completetely plausible and for that logical. Criminals hunted everywhere but not on stations in high sec by police is completely implausible and for that illogical. Yet here we all are. Playing a game full of illogical things, like criminals going un-hunted in highsec stations all because it makes for a better game. I hope your brain doesn't explode from the implausibility of it all.
Kenrailae Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships. 438	Posted - 2015.07.18 13:16:07 - [39] - Quote Mega corps with a monopoly on everything probably don't care whether criminals dock there, as long as they have Isk to spend The Law is a point of View
Rah McGee Lords and Ladies of event horizon H.O.M.E. Coalition 2	Posted - 2015.07.18 13:19:31 - [40] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: I hope your brain doesn't explode from the implausibility of it all. Don't worry, the world is run by people like you.
James Baboli The.Primary.. 1012	Posted - 2015.07.18 14:08:54 - [41] - Quote Rah McGee wrote: Black Pedro wrote: Yet here we all are. Playing a game full of illogical things, like criminals going un-hunted in highsec stations all because it makes for a better game. I see this as a bug or a glitch. Betta map is broken too. Code exists to deny docking permission. It isn't implemented. Has not been implemented, despite REPEATED dousings of the forums with tears, from the quick cry and run to high ceremonial tear-rantuals that threaten to overflow the collectors. Maybe this is in fact intended. Talking more, Flying crazier, And drinking more Making battleships worth the warp
Valkin Mordirc 1252	Posted - 2015.07.18 14:37:28 - [42] - Quote Rah McGee wrote: Valkin Mordirc wrote: Logically EVE spaceships could only fly in one trajectory, instead of like a plane Logically the sun would burn a ship up, instead of bouncing off. Logically the amount of 'near earth' planets in EVE would be far fewer Logically going into a WH with a blackhole would mean death Logically you shouldn't be able to zip between solar systems. WHO WANT TO BE LOGICAL AND TRAVEL AT LIGHT SPEED TO JITA AND AMARR NOT FUCKIN ME you are mistaking reality for plausibility. With the given set of rules or laws all that you have nemtioned above is completetely plausible and for that logical. Criminals hunted everywhere but not on stations in high sec by police is completely implausible and for that illogical. Oh I'm sorry I guess you know Physics better then you know. People who study physics. `#DeleteTheWeak`
Nyalnara AdAstra. Beach Club 84	Posted - 2015.07.18 14:49:27 - [43] - Quote Rah McGee wrote: Kenrailae wrote: Mega corps with a monopoly on everything probably don't care whether criminals dock there, as long as they have Isk to spend So concord cares if someone is getting shot but they don't care when criminals dock at teheir station? Is the guy shooting at the station? No, so they don't care. As simple as that. In case of ponies, keep calm and start running. French half-noob. Founder of [DEUPP]Dark Evil Undead Ponies Productions.
Mag's the united 19809	Posted - 2015.07.18 16:03:53 - [44] - Quote Rah McGee wrote: Black Pedro wrote: Criminals are in the game by design. Suicide ganking is an intended mechanic; this has been confirmed by CCP many times. They are there to provide player-driven risk in highsec. Them not being able to dock doesn't restrict them from ganking, so this is not even an argument. And you restricting a perfectly legitimate game style because you do not like it, isn't an argument for change either. You folks make me laugh. You join a game known for ganking since it's birth, then do nothing but complain about it. Games night at yours, would be an absolute blast I'm sure. "What do you mean the Queen can move in all directions?????? What the hell? That sir is illogical and we should change it henceforth!!!" Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Angelica Dreamstar Miner's House of ill repute 1055	Posted - 2015.07.18 16:17:27 - [45] - Quote Wow, stop responding to these stupid children already and rather slap them like they deserve it. "People need to realise that saying "someone else will do it" also mean that other someone else might be thinking the exact same thing..." -- Frostys Virpio, very attentive person, thoughtful, smart responses. Understands self responsibility.
Rah McGee Lords and Ladies of event horizon H.O.M.E. Coalition 2	Posted - 2015.07.18 16:31:30 - [46] - Quote Mag's wrote: And you restricting a perfectly legitimate game style because you do not like it..bla bla bla..some tears Again wrong. Since you have problems to understand this, I will gladly repeat it for you: If we take away the ability for criminals to dock in stations in high sec this does not make people less gankable. Mag's wrote: You join a game known for ganking since it's birth, then do nothing but complain about it. The only tears and complainsI see in this thread are from people who fear about their 'gamestyle'.
Iain Cariaba 1671	Posted - 2015.07.18 16:37:19 - [47] - Quote Rah McGee wrote: Mag's wrote: You join a game known for ganking since it's birth, then do nothing but complain about it. The only tears and complainsI see in this thread are from people who fear about their 'gamestyle'. Nope, your "ganking is bad, gankers need to be punished" line definitely count as tears, and you're full of complaints about how gankers shouldn't be allowed to dock because you don't like it. EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid. I couldn't have said it better. Will troll for a t-shirt.
Mag's the united 19813	Posted - 2015.07.18 16:39:45 - [48] - Quote Rah McGee wrote: Mag's wrote: And you restricting a perfectly legitimate game style because you do not like it..bla bla bla..some tears Again wrong. Since you have problems to understand this, I will gladly repeat it for you: If we take away the ability for criminals to dock in stations in high sec this does not make people less gankable. And I shall repeat, as reading and or comprehension doesn't seem to be your forte. Restricting a perfectly legitimate game style because you do not like it, isn't a reason for change. Rah McGee wrote: Mag's wrote: You join a game known for ganking since it's birth, then do nothing but complain about it. The only tears and complainsI see in this thread are from people who fear about their 'gamestyle'. Irony. Now you just need to mention bullying, for ganker whine bingo. Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Rah McGee Lords and Ladies of event horizon H.O.M.E. Coalition 2	Posted - 2015.07.18 16:40:50 - [49] - Quote Iain Cariaba wrote: Nope, your "ganking is bad, gankers need to be punished" line definitely count as tears, and you're full of complaints about how gankers shouldn't be allowed to dock because you don't like it. Here we have the perfect example why we need this to be fixed asap. All the times I am talking about criminals, not only gankers, and those people with their 'gamestyle' only refere to themselves. You get -10 not only by ganking in high sec, you know?
Mag's the united 19813	Posted - 2015.07.18 16:46:03 - [50] - Quote Rah McGee wrote: Mag's wrote: Restricting a perfectly legitimate game style because you do not like it, isn't a reason for change. No one is restricting the gememechanic. You still will be able to gang. Oh my bad. I thought not being able to dock was a restriction. Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Rah McGee Lords and Ladies of event horizon H.O.M.E. Coalition 2	Posted - 2015.07.18 16:50:06 - [51] - Quote Mag's wrote: Rah McGee wrote: Mag's wrote: Restricting a perfectly legitimate game style because you do not like it, isn't a reason for change. No one is restricting the gememechanic. You still will be able to gang. Oh my bad. I thought not being able to dock was a restriction. I am glad that you see where you are wrong. This is not a restriction but a gamefix. Criminals will still be able to dock in null sec for instance.
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 1223	Posted - 2015.07.18 16:53:20 - [52] - Quote Mag's wrote: Rah McGee wrote: Mag's wrote: Restricting a perfectly legitimate game style because you do not like it, isn't a reason for change. No one is restricting the gememechanic. You still will be able to gang. Oh my bad. I thought not being able to dock was a restriction. I didn't mention gangs btw. It not a restriction, it's just logical. Anything else just doesn't make sense. Why are your so resistant to these ideas? You will still technically be able to gank. It's not like he asking for all offensive modules to be locked out in highsec or anything.
Iain Cariaba 1673	Posted - 2015.07.18 16:54:02 - [53] - Quote Rah McGee wrote: Iain Cariaba wrote: Nope, your "ganking is bad, gankers need to be punished" line definitely count as tears, and you're full of complaints about how gankers shouldn't be allowed to dock because you don't like it. Here we have the perfect example why we need this to be fixed asap. All the times I am talking about criminals, not only gankers, and those people with their 'gamestyle' only refere to themselves. You get -10 not only by ganking in high sec, you know? Mag's wrote: Restricting a perfectly legitimate game style because you do not like it, isn't a reason for change. No one is restricting the gememechanic. You still will be able to gang. Yep, knew this post was coming. People like you are so predictable. Didn't bother to even look up who you're talking to before you shitposted, did you? How could I possibly be "crying" that you're trying to ruin my "gamestyle" when I'm not even a ganker? EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid. I couldn't have said it better. Will troll for a t-shirt.
Mag's the united 19817	Posted - 2015.07.18 16:54:24 - [54] - Quote Rah McGee wrote: Mag's wrote: Rah McGee wrote: Mag's wrote: Restricting a perfectly legitimate game style because you do not like it, isn't a reason for change. No one is restricting the gememechanic. You still will be able to gang. Oh my bad. I thought not being able to dock was a restriction. I am glad that you see where you are wrong. This is not a restriction but a gamefix. Criminals will still be able to dock in null sec for instance. Cute. So your restriction to a game style, fixes what exactly? Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Mag's the united 19817	Posted - 2015.07.18 16:55:57 - [55] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: Mag's wrote: Rah McGee wrote: Mag's wrote: Restricting a perfectly legitimate game style because you do not like it, isn't a reason for change. No one is restricting the gememechanic. You still will be able to gang. Oh my bad. I thought not being able to dock was a restriction. I didn't mention gangs btw. It not a restriction, it's just logical. Anything else just doesn't make sense. Why are your so resistant to these ideas? You will still technically be able to gank. It's not like he asking for all offensive modules to be locked out in highsec or anything. That's coming in the next, "*Just one more nerf and it will be balanced." thread. Destination SkillQueue:-* It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Rah McGee Lords and Ladies of event horizon H.O.M.E. Coalition 2	Posted - 2015.07.18 16:58:45 - [56] - Quote Mag's wrote: So your restriction to a game style, fixes what exactly? As we agreed before: It is not a restriction but a fix to the logical glitch.
Mag's the united 19818	Posted - 2015.07.18 17:02:29 - [57] - Quote Rah McGee wrote: Mag's wrote: So your restriction to a game style, fixes what exactly? As we agreed before: It is not a restriction but a fix to the logical glitch. Your forum foo is as poor, as your reading and comprehension it seems. What logical glitch and why should a game style be restricted? Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Valkin Mordirc 1256	Posted - 2015.07.18 17:02:40 - [58] - Quote Rah McGee wrote: Mag's wrote: So your restriction to a game style, fixes what exactly? As we agreed before: It is not a restriction but a fix to the logical glitch. Oh you are THE fuckin idiot of the day aren't you? `#DeleteTheWeak`
Iain Cariaba 1674	Posted - 2015.07.18 17:03:38 - [59] - Quote Rah McGee wrote: Mag's wrote: So your restriction to a game style, fixes what exactly? As we agreed before: It is not a restriction but a fix to the logical glitch. Except your fix is not logical. Concord is not a policing agency with any direct authority over the Empires of EvE, so your suggestion that the mega-corporations of those Empires should care about what Concord says makes zero sense. EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid. I couldn't have said it better. Will troll for a t-shirt.
Rah McGee Lords and Ladies of event horizon H.O.M.E. Coalition 2	Posted - 2015.07.18 17:07:04 - [60] - Quote Iain Cariaba wrote: Rah McGee wrote: Mag's wrote: So your restriction to a game style, fixes what exactly? As we agreed before: It is not a restriction but a fix to the logical glitch. Except your fix is not logical. Concord is not a policing agency with any direct authority over the Empires of EvE, so your suggestion that the mega-corporations of those Empires should care about what Concord says makes zero sense. So then you must see the hostility of emperial police as illogical. Why else would it chase and kill you if you are -10?

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