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Alex Thiesantes The Scope Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2015.07.18 13:31:54 - [1] - Quote For many years I have given EVE a try, time after time again, to only come to this conclusion. EVE is not a game for normal people. After starting to dislike it, I'm now at the point I really hate it. I just hope that eve continues to exist for at least another 10 years so all the scammers and sort like have a place they can call home. bye bye, will not miss this game , not for a second. Wonder if there will be that typical eve player mind thing "can I have you're stuff?" maybe just this, shouldn't a game be a place where a player can relax and get to do some FUN!!! stuff with like minded players after a day of work on the little free time he has? A life without honor is a life not worth living at all
Jenshae Chiroptera 1991	Posted - 2015.07.18 13:35:21 - [2] - Quote You need to find the right group in the game to find your like minded players. In this it sounds like you failed. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other spaces, where they can grow Fozzie SOV is treating a symptom.
Crimson Nirnroots Caldari Provisions Caldari State 34	Posted - 2015.07.18 13:36:28 - [3] - Quote UaE is anything but typical. Antimatter, now with more Nirnroots.
afkalt Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 1671	Posted - 2015.07.18 13:37:00 - [4] - Quote I don't want your stuff, sounds like you were terrible and I have enough station clutter.
Angelica Dreamstar Miner's House of ill repute 1050	Posted - 2015.07.18 13:37:45 - [5] - Quote Alex Thiesantes wrote: For many years I have given EVE a try, time after time again, to only come to this conclusion. EVE is not a game for normal people. After starting to dislike it, I'm now at the point I really hate it. I just hope that eve continues to exist for at least another 10 years so all the scammers and sort like have a place they can call home. bye bye, will not miss this game , not for a second. Wonder if there will be that typical eve player mind thing "can I have you're stuff?" maybe just this, shouldn't a game be a place where a player can relax and get to do some FUN!!! stuff with like minded players after a day of work on the little free time he has? No, this game is not supposed to be fun. This game is much deeper than that. If you need it shallow, please take all those addicts from reddit and go somewhere else! That's what you want! Bye! "People need to realise that saying "someone else will do it" also mean that other someone else might be thinking the exact same thing..." -- Frostys Virpio, very attentive person, thoughtful, smart responses. Understands self responsibility.
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 1210	Posted - 2015.07.18 13:38:11 - [6] - Quote Alex Thiesantes wrote: For many years I have given EVE a try, time after time again, to only come to this conclusion. EVE is not a game for normal people. After starting to dislike it, I'm now at the point I really hate it. I just hope that eve continues to exist for at least another 10 years so all the scammers and sort like have a place they can call home. bye bye, will not miss this game , not for a second. Wonder if there will be that typical eve player mind thing "can I have you're stuff?" maybe just this, shouldn't a game be a place where a player can relax and get to do some FUN!!! stuff with like minded players after a day of work on the little free time he has? If you are going to break the forum rules with a "quitting Eve" post, you could at least give us the story of the scam that you fell for that made you quit. Otherwise how will other players learn about what scams to look out for?
Christo Severasse Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 15	Posted - 2015.07.18 13:56:02 - [7] - Quote Eve is a hardcore, anything (nearly) goes kind of game, as you have no doubt realised. If all you want is to switch off your brain and have some fun, play Mario Kart. You need to calibrate your brain to accept a different way of evaluating "winning" in Eve. Example: you jump into a bubble gate camp when doing some exploring but you manage to escape using MWD and cloak trick, whilst flying a T1 frigate being hunted by 2 interceptors and an interdictor. Smack talk the bad pilots in local, GTFO with 200,000,000 ISK of goodies. Job done. You have "won". You didn't get a kill or an achievement but you still won. There is no instant gratification here, but it can still be fun. Maybe just not the fun you are looking for.
Benjamin en Thielles Channel Ten News Team 0	Posted - 2015.07.18 13:56:39 - [8] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: Alex Thiesantes wrote: For many years I have given EVE a try, time after time again, to only come to this conclusion. EVE is not a game for normal people. After starting to dislike it, I'm now at the point I really hate it. I just hope that eve continues to exist for at least another 10 years so all the scammers and sort like have a place they can call home. bye bye, will not miss this game , not for a second. Wonder if there will be that typical eve player mind thing "can I have you're stuff?" maybe just this, shouldn't a game be a place where a player can relax and get to do some FUN!!! stuff with like minded players after a day of work on the little free time he has? If you are going to break the forum rules with a "quitting Eve" post, you could at least give us the story of the scam that you fell for that made you quit. Otherwise how will other players learn about what scams to look out for? ^ story or it didn't happen. Sounds like you are not playing the game right which i understand because i've been there. Like people already said you have to join with other like minded people to have fun in this game. Once you learn, it is really fun and relaxing.
Captain Grantkarppe No Laws Apply 22	Posted - 2015.07.18 14:41:03 - [9] - Quote "This isn't a rage quit, but I'm gonna rage quit."
Arla Sarain 557	Posted - 2015.07.18 15:01:45 - [10] - Quote Alex Thiesantes wrote: shouldn't a game be a place where a player can relax and get to do some FUN!!! stuff with like minded players after a day of work on the little free time he has? It should and it is. If you feel threatened, burdened, down or anything else, when you get scammed, ganked, caught on a gate, that's on you. Those things ARE THE GAME. Lighten up, ask people how to deal with those things, surround yourself with people who know how to deal with them, learn and then outplay.
Oliver Delorean Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 15	Posted - 2015.07.18 15:10:17 - [11] - Quote I understand people who don't like EvE. Not all of us like the same type games. Not all of us like to drink same beer. Not all like same type of women. But what makes some of them to come here and whine before they leave....
Omega Capsuleer Order of Cut-Throats 0	Posted - 2015.07.18 15:27:36 - [12] - Quote What does it say that people feel the need to persecute players even at the point they are walking out the door? Good luck, have fun.
Renegade Heart Carebear Miners R Us 496	Posted - 2015.07.18 15:56:37 - [13] - Quote Alex Thiesantes wrote: EVE is not a game for normal people Who is normal? Meh. Alex Thiesantes wrote: shouldn't a game be a place where a player can relax and get to do some FUN!!! stuff Yes. Sounds like you were doing it wrong. Alex Thiesantes wrote: like minded players I struggle with that, but I'm still here. Enjoy another game then OP. Have fun!
Falin Whalen GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 793	Posted - 2015.07.18 16:08:20 - [14] - Quote OP, you need a cookie. "it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka-á
Orlacc 879	Posted - 2015.07.18 16:23:35 - [15] - Quote Alex Thiesantes wrote: For many years I have given EVE a try, time after time again, to only come to this conclusion. EVE is not a game for normal people. After starting to dislike it, I'm now at the point I really hate it. I just hope that eve continues to exist for at least another 10 years so all the scammers and sort like have a place they can call home. bye bye, will not miss this game , not for a second. Wonder if there will be that typical eve player mind thing "can I have you're stuff?" maybe just this, shouldn't a game be a place where a player can relax and get to do some FUN!!! stuff with like minded players after a day of work on the little free time he has? Some games are different than others. Deal with it. "Measure Twice, Cut Once."
0bama Barack Hussein Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 69	Posted - 2015.07.18 16:41:56 - [16] - Quote Oliver Delorean wrote: I understand people who don't like EvE. Not all of us like the same type games. Not all of us like to drink same beer. Not all like same type of women. But what makes some of them to come here and whine before they leave.... I believe it has something to do with subscription model. People feel that they have "lost money", even if they have payed their game by grinding isk and PLEXing, and not only time (losing time is acceptable for most as you have had SOMETHING out from it, otherwise you would not have done that). I have not seen this kind of outbursts in this magnitude at ED or SC forums (not subscription based space games, closest I can compare to).
Tiberius Heth Say No to Features 21	Posted - 2015.07.18 16:48:44 - [17] - Quote Alex Thiesantes wrote: maybe just this, shouldn't a game be a place where a player can relax and get to do some FUN!!! stuff with like minded players after a day of work on the little free time he has? Your corp history shows that you have put in zero effort to find like minded people, as you put it. Who's fault is that, yours or the game's?
CRUCIBL3 HANIVCHAR Viziam Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.07.18 16:53:22 - [18] - Quote This forum is in dire need of a troll ban button. Life must really miserable for some of you.
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 1043	Posted - 2015.07.18 17:15:50 - [19] - Quote Alex Thiesantes wrote: maybe just this, shouldn't a game be a place where a player can relax and get to do some FUN!!! stuff with like minded players after a day of work on the little free time he has? Fun is a completely subjective concept. Remove insurance.
Jacques d'Orleans The Scope Gallente Federation 512	Posted - 2015.07.18 17:21:15 - [20] - Quote Alex Thiesantes wrote: For many years I have given EVE a try, time after time again, to only come to this conclusion. EVE is not a game for normal people. After starting to dislike it, I'm now at the point I really hate it. I just hope that eve continues to exist for at least another 10 years so all the scammers and sort like have a place they can call home. bye bye, will not miss this game , not for a second. Wonder if there will be that typical eve player mind thing "can I have you're stuff?" maybe just this, shouldn't a game be a place where a player can relax and get to do some FUN!!! stuff with like minded players after a day of work on the little free time he has? You did a thread in January Is EVE to complicated and time consuming for me? and there was some good advice given to you by other players. So what did you do, regarding those advices? Obvioulsy nothing.
Mag's the united 19819	Posted - 2015.07.18 17:30:04 - [21] - Quote I played Hungry Hippos the other night, then raged quit after my daughters hippos ate more than mine. Totally unfair. Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Paranoid Loyd 6314	Posted - 2015.07.18 17:33:51 - [22] - Quote I love rage quitting monopoly. (Gò»-¦Gûí-¦)Gò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!
Painkill3r Perkone Caldari State 10	Posted - 2015.07.18 17:34:26 - [23] - Quote Alex Thiesantes wrote: For many years I have given EVE a try, time after time again, to only come to this conclusion. EVE is not a game for normal people. After starting to dislike it, I'm now at the point I really hate it. I just hope that eve continues to exist for at least another 10 years so all the scammers and sort like have a place they can call home. Thinly veiled gripes about being scammed don't help you avoid them, and they are quite avoidable.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 22470	Posted - 2015.07.18 17:44:29 - [24] - Quote Alex Thiesantes wrote: Wonder if there will be that typical eve player mind thing "can I have you're stuff?" Proof that I am indeed not typical, as I ask 'Can I have your stuff?'. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Jenshae Chiroptera 1995	Posted - 2015.07.18 17:50:43 - [25] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: ... Proof that I am indeed not typical, as I ask 'Can I have your stuff?'. How often do you receive stuff? Is it worth the effort of asking? CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other spaces, where they can grow Fozzie SOV is treating a symptom.
Joia Crenca Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 221	Posted - 2015.07.18 18:03:44 - [26] - Quote CRUCIBL3 HANIVCHAR wrote: This forum is in dire need of a troll ban button. Life must really miserable for some of you. You have the ability to hide posts from folks you don't agree with. Outright banning folks from the forums when someone doesn't agree... would leave very empty forums as most of us only regularly agree with ourselves, and even that's only on good days.
Seven Koskanaiken FinFleet Northern Coalition. 1579	Posted - 2015.07.18 18:49:36 - [27] - Quote Confirming I'm not a normal person.
Portmanteau Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 61	Posted - 2015.07.18 19:08:28 - [28] - Quote Alex Thiesantes wrote: For many years I have given EVE a try, time after time again, to only come to this conclusion. EVE is not a game for normal people. After starting to dislike it, I'm now at the point I really hate it. So stop playing it it, it's not complicated, there are other games. Quote: I just hope that eve continues to exist for at least another 10 years so all the scammers and sort like have a place they can call home. bye bye, will not miss this game , not for a second. So why do you need to make this post then ? Quote: maybe just this, shouldn't a game be a place where a player can relax and get to do some FUN!!! stuff with like minded players after a day of work on the little free time he has? Some games sure, probably not this one, must all games in existence meet your criteria, I'd say not, that would be quite dull. My advice ? Go find a game that suits you and stop being so upset about a game that clearly doesn't.
Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 368	Posted - 2015.07.18 19:31:09 - [29] - Quote Alex Thiesantes wrote: For many years I have given EVE a try, time after time again, to only come to this conclusion. EVE is not a game for normal people. After starting to dislike it, I'm now at the point I really hate it. I just hope that eve continues to exist for at least another 10 years so all the scammers and sort like have a place they can call home. bye bye, will not miss this game , not for a second. Wonder if there will be that typical eve player mind thing "can I have you're stuff?" maybe just this, shouldn't a game be a place where a player can relax and get to do some FUN!!! stuff with like minded players after a day of work on the little free time he has? Your first mistake was working, instead of finding people to work for you. Should've trained social engineering to level 5. Your second mistake was assuming that a game like EVE produces automatic fun. It does not. The amount of fun you have depends entirely on your capacity to generate interesting situations in a sandbox environment.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 24338	Posted - 2015.07.18 19:41:46 - [30] - Quote Alex Thiesantes wrote: For many years I have given EVE a try, time after time again, to only come to this conclusion. EVE is not a game for normal people. After starting to dislike it, I'm now at the point I really hate it. I just hope that eve continues to exist for at least another 10 years so all the scammers and sort like have a place they can call home. bye bye, will not miss this game , not for a second. Wonder if there will be that typical eve player mind thing "can I have you're stuff?" maybe just this, shouldn't a game be a place where a player can relax and get to do some FUN!!! stuff with like minded players after a day of work on the little free time he has? That's a lot of words to say "I don't like Eve, do you want my stuff?" Eve isn't for everybody, it's a shame it's taken you so long to realise that it isn't for you. Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Vortexo VonBrenner Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord 2005	Posted - 2015.07.18 19:43:53 - [31] - Quote Alex Thiesantes wrote: ...to only come to this conclusion. EVE is not a game for normal people. You're right! Probably why I like it. #cryforhelp LOL - ITT: blatant ragequit claiming not to be ragequit...self-deception, deception, or both?...hmm... "Cats? I like them and I don't like them". - Erwin Schrödinger
Celise Katelo State War Academy Caldari State 127	Posted - 2015.07.18 20:28:45 - [32] - Quote Please come dance with me. Lets get in a spin together ..../winks Sometimes finding what you like is always a side ways effect, like drifting I love this video, The Hoonicorn "V8 Rally Car" Sometimes giving up, before you can find what you like, isn't always the solution EVEBoard ...Just over 26million skill points, each skill was chosen for a reason. I closed my eyes & clicked another skill to train... "BINGO...!!!" ... "This time i got something usefull"
Buoytender Bob Ronin Exploration Mission and Mining 46	Posted - 2015.07.18 20:54:47 - [33] - Quote EVE could solve this problem of rage quitting postings in General by just adding a Topic area called: EVE Rage Quitting Center People could feel free to post and vent as much as they want, saving ISD Barstorlode some time.
Orlacc 881	Posted - 2015.07.18 20:56:26 - [34] - Quote Just remember, it was Zumm The Mad who coined the phrase "Can I have your stuff?" "Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 24338	Posted - 2015.07.18 20:59:30 - [35] - Quote @Celise Katelo the Hoonicorn is a monster, saw it rip up the hill climb @ Goodwood Festival of Speed a couple of weeks back Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Daniela Doran Ministry of War Amarr Empire 40	Posted - 2015.07.18 21:25:53 - [36] - Quote Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: You need to find the right group in the game to find your like minded players. In this it sounds like you failed. Easier said then done and you missed the part where he said "with the LITTLE free time he has after a days work".
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 24340	Posted - 2015.07.18 21:56:44 - [37] - Quote Daniela Doran wrote: Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: You need to find the right group in the game to find your like minded players. In this it sounds like you failed. Easier said then done and you missed the part where he said "with the LITTLE free time he has after a days work". And this makes him any different from the rest of us how? Eves demographic is people approaching or over 30, a lot of us have full time jobs, a lot of us have families, a lot of us have other interests. We know all about the realities of having little free time, yet we manage just fine. Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Webvan All Kill No Skill 11239	Posted - 2015.07.18 23:29:49 - [38] - Quote Most people only become victims of scammers due to their own greed. You're going to put something over on this moron, get yourself some goods and insta win at EVE. But in the end, the takers get taken. No one wants your stuff, I suggest you biomass. Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE 1295	Posted - 2015.07.19 03:55:21 - [39] - Quote Alex Thiesantes wrote: maybe just this, shouldn't a game be a place where a player can relax and get to do some FUN!!! stuff with like minded players after a day of work on the little free time he has? in my experience this is exactly what eve is. @ChainsawPlankto
Vedor Teo Raging Tapirs Illuminati Confirmed. 8	Posted - 2015.07.19 03:55:52 - [40] - Quote Each games are catered to different groups of players. You have your own preference, though you don't have to be bitter about it.
Whipple Shai Time and all Eternity DeepSpace. 26	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:10:07 - [41] - Quote OK OP, just in case you're still reading your replies, I reference you this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5831953#post5831953 it's a post I made a while back. I don't wanna say it all over again. Dr. Randy Paush said it best I think, "Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want." I've made crap-tons of mistakes in this game and I've learned from them. Learned enough that my follow on game experience was more fun. For my time in game I've really had one overriding goal. To find a group of players who will accept this wounded veteran for what I can do and not expect more than what I'm able. But on the other hand I don't want anyone feeling sorry for me or not giving me the same opportunities. I just might have finally found it with this corp/alliance. But if I would have quit when I didn't I would have missed out. While looking for that I've had opportunities to run a Corp that I messed up and it failed then one that didnt. Then an alliance in Wicked Creek that did, but only after a year, and only in Feb of this year. Did I mention I can't talk and I'm missing 25% of my brain from a little incident while in the Navy? And the game is too hard for you? Pardon me while I search for my give a crap. Nope, can't find it. HTFU Sparkey. Or unsub. For real this time. Whipple
BlkQueen Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 20	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:12:22 - [42] - Quote OP, dont listen to the trolls on this thread. I hear what your saying. Although I am not yet done with the game, I am getting there. I like you also played off and on for several years, have a 29mill pilot (not this toon trolls so feel free to place bounties on it like the griefing jacka@@es you are) and basically did mining in high sec. Now there are cretins like CODE suicide ganking us. Ask a question in Help channel? Got a bounty put on my head because the pvper did not like "Miners". The game is a griefers paradise, and dont let anyone tell you different. They like to play like its so in depth and complicated and thoughtful and...please with the ish. The game has no content, tons of trolls and griefers and the subs are finally starting to go down. WHen enough players leave the CCP devs (who are probably gankers and griefers as well) will finally do something. GLuck finding a new game. More sandboxy MMOs are coming out and I intend on checking them out myself.
Whipple Shai Time and all Eternity DeepSpace. 26	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:20:47 - [43] - Quote BlkQueen wrote: OP, dont listen to the trolls on this thread. I hear what your saying. Although I am not yet done with the game, I am getting there. I like you also played off and on for several years, have a 29mill pilot (not this toon trolls so feel free to place bounties on it like the griefing jacka@@es you are) and basically did mining in high sec. Now there are cretins like CODE suicide ganking us. Ask a question in Help channel? Got a bounty put on my head because the pvper did not like "Miners". The game is a griefers paradise, and dont let anyone tell you different. They like to play like its so in depth and complicated and thoughtful and...please with the ish. The game has no content, tons of trolls and griefers and the subs are finally starting to go down. WHen enough players leave the CCP devs (who are probably gankers and griefers as well) will finally do something. GLuck finding a new game. More sandboxy MMOs are coming out and I intend on checking them out myself. Here, have a tissue. Your game play issue is summed up in three words, " mining in hisec." Get the hell outta hisec. I lost more ships on two accounts in three months in hisec than I have in two years on ten accounts living in null. I'm a miner. Null. Is. Safer. Period. Whipple
Webvan All Kill No Skill 11254	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:32:47 - [44] - Quote BlkQueen wrote: OP, dont listen to the trolls on this thread. You can report yourself for trolling you know. Little flag uptop your post "I'm trolling". That would at least remove most of the bad-trolls on this thread. BlkQueen wrote: GLuck finding a new game. More sandboxy MMOs are coming out and I intend on checking them out myself. My little pony online. In closed early beta but the two of you bad trolls can shitpost in their forums and maybe get into their private testing. It's at some site called legends of equestria dot com or some such nonsense mmo, easily googled if you know what that is. You prolly already have it booked marked anyway. You guys make CODE. look good. I liked the idea in the beginning, sort of fell out for me over time, but now looking so much more favorable. They don't need to PR themselves, you guys do a better job of it by far. Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Jenshae Chiroptera 2005	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:47:01 - [45] - Quote BlkQueen wrote: ...have a 29mill pilot ... That is a long time to repeat one experience and think you know the game. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other spaces, where they can grow Fozzie SOV is treating a symptom.
DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 50755	Posted - 2015.07.19 06:17:34 - [46] - Quote Tiberius Heth wrote: Alex Thiesantes wrote: maybe just this, shouldn't a game be a place where a player can relax and get to do some FUN!!! stuff with like minded players after a day of work on the little free time he has? Your corp history shows that you have put in zero effort to find like minded people, as you put it. Who's fault is that, yours or the game's? Heh, Corp history doesn't mean anything unless it's filled with lot's of corps due to WarDec dodging. Anyway, I understand the OP's point and quite honestly I agree with it. Over the years this game has steadily become more grim due to a steady influx of players with 'Grief' mentality, basically causing the game to lose it's fun factor. DMC 'The Plan' \| California Eve Players \| Proposal - The Endless Battle
Avaelica Kuershin Paper Cats 201	Posted - 2015.07.19 06:49:45 - [47] - Quote BlkQueen wrote: OP, dont listen to the trolls on this thread. I hear what your saying. Although I am not yet done with the game, I am getting there. I like you also played off and on for several years, have a 29mill pilot (not this toon trolls so feel free to place bounties on it like the griefing jacka@@es you are) and basically did mining in high sec. Now there are cretins like CODE suicide ganking us. Ask a question in Help channel? Got a bounty put on my head because the pvper did not like "Miners". The game is a griefers paradise, and dont let anyone tell you different. They like to play like its so in depth and complicated and thoughtful and...please with the ish. The game has no content, tons of trolls and griefers and the subs are finally starting to go down. WHen enough players leave the CCP devs (who are probably gankers and griefers as well) will finally do something. GLuck finding a new game. More sandboxy MMOs are coming out and I intend on checking them out myself. I've found the amount of GÇÿgriefingGÇÖ in the game seems to be reflective of the person being GÇÿgriefedGÇÖ much more than the one GÇÿgriefingGÇÖ. Now some players may not like miners at all, but there others who don't much care for afk miners in untanked ships. (I still can't see a good reason to use anything other than a Procurer) As to the content, what do you want? Content laid out for you to follow and get your legendary ring? Quests and raids to make you the centre of that world? Enough of that. As to bounties, I'm a little surprised by mine as I thought the amount was a CODE thing. I was going to have gotten rid of it this weekend, but wasn't around for the roam.
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Lady Areola Fappington 2615	Posted - 2015.07.19 07:30:39 - [49] - Quote As CCP has said (and I'm paraphrasing) "There are good ways and bad ways to lose customers. If a customer fundamentally disagrees with the central tenets that make Eve Online what it is, then it's OK to lose that person as a customer.." I feel like it's almost a part of the "All Me Right Now" Generation, in that it comes as a shock when a business says "Yeah, we don't work like that, please take your money and go elsewhere." 7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide
Dark Reignz Four-Q 41	Posted - 2015.07.19 07:51:01 - [50] - Quote Lady Areola Fappington wrote: As CCP has said (and I'm paraphrasing) "There are good ways and bad ways to lose customers. If a customer fundamentally disagrees with the central tenets that make Eve Online what it is, then it's OK to lose that person as a customer.." I feel like it's almost a part of the "All Me Right Now" Generation, in that it comes as a shock when a business says "Yeah, we don't work like that, please take your money and go elsewhere." Is this the same customers who leave and then get spam mail with offers to come back. Maybe its that mentality that has lead to current decline in active players and the latest game update certainly hasn't caused an influx of players to come back as some of you numpties suggested it would... The game is still in a big decline so losing players is not allright at all. Troll Mode - ON
Yarda Black Militaris Industries Northern Coalition. 774	Posted - 2015.07.19 07:58:34 - [51] - Quote The alternative I use is ignoring the scum. It's what I do in real life too. I cant run around being the police. Since I don't like scum, I don't behave like one myself. Which also means I won't scam people. Which you should not believe. Its bad practice even in RL. With that statement I've also proven the OP to be a liar btw. But since we "all" know what he means.... PvP-ers don't hate miners. Certain people believe others care about their simplistic view. Which is obviously true based on the tears they generate from some other people. Doesn't mean it makes sense all of a sudden. Stop caring about the opinion of some random dude on some random location about a random subject. Be a bit more selective who you pay attention to and EVE becomes a wonderful place with all kinds of stuff going on.
Lady Areola Fappington 2616	Posted - 2015.07.19 08:05:51 - [52] - Quote Dark Reignz wrote: Is this the same customers who leave and then get spam mail with offers to come back. Maybe its that mentality that has lead to current decline in active players and the latest game update certainly hasn't caused an influx of players to come back as some of you numpties suggested it would... The game is still in a big decline so losing players is not allright at all. And again, as said by CCP, if they ever get put in the position of having to undermine the core values of Eve, they'd much rather pull the plug and end things over changing Eve to be "Not Eve". That's why the whole sub number threat doesn't work on CCP. As is, there is no direct connection between sub loss, and "bad things" happening to someone in Eve. The biggest sub killer is, remarkably, people who get stuck in "solo mode", get bored, and quit. CCP has even shown us, the biggest killer for new subs isn't getting ganked or scammed...it's not joining up with an active corp within 30 days. I'm sure the vast majority of dedicated Eve players agree, that if CCP were ever put in the position of closing the doors vs. destroying the values Eve is based on, we'd rather them shut the doors. Thankfully, they agree on that point. Much rather they take Eve out behind the shed and put it down Old Yeller style, over a lingering, drawn out death changing crap just to chase sub numbers. 7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide
Dark Reignz Four-Q 41	Posted - 2015.07.19 08:17:33 - [53] - Quote Lady Areola Fappington wrote: lingering, drawn out death changing crap just to chase sub numbers. You hit the nail on the head. My opinion is that this is exactly where the game is at right now. Troll Mode - ON
Frantix Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.07.19 08:18:12 - [54] - Quote Alex Thiesantes wrote: you're *your
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 1228	Posted - 2015.07.19 08:24:10 - [55] - Quote Dark Reignz wrote: Lady Areola Fappington wrote: As CCP has said (and I'm paraphrasing) "There are good ways and bad ways to lose customers. If a customer fundamentally disagrees with the central tenets that make Eve Online what it is, then it's OK to lose that person as a customer.." I feel like it's almost a part of the "All Me Right Now" Generation, in that it comes as a shock when a business says "Yeah, we don't work like that, please take your money and go elsewhere." Is this the same customers who leave and then get spam mail with offers to come back. Maybe its that mentality that has lead to current decline in active players and the latest game update certainly hasn't caused an influx of players to come back as some of you numpties suggested it would... The game is still in a big decline so losing players is not allright at all. Eve may be suffering from decreased concurrent player counts right now, although the reasons for this are not at all clear and ultimately don't matter to you if your game is still fun. Let CCP worry about that. That said, the last thing CCP should do is just toss out the core tenets of the game in desperation over subscriptions and they know this. Eve has been successful for 12+-years because it offers something found pretty much nowhere else in the gaming world - a single-universe PvP sandbox and all the complexity and interactions that provides. The reason Eve is still here and numerous sci-fi themed MMOs that were touted as supposed "Eve killers" have come and gone is that those WoW-in-space clones lack the player-driven stories, interactions and conflict that Eve offers. Look at Elite: Dangerous. Only the most thoroughbred carebear finds that game entertaining for any length of time. Sure it is pretty, but without consequences there is little meaning to the actual gameplay and no matter what they add, the ability to opt-out of player conflict means it never will have meaning. It will always be a glorified spaceflight simulator, never a vibrant living universe like New Eden has become. CCP would be insane to nerf the conflict out of the game, the major distinguishing feature of the game, to try to appeal to those wanting a single-player space game. There is no way a neutered version of their 2003-era space game could compete against the modern, and upcoming crop of sci-fi MMOs. That would be the surest way to kill Eve - those seeking a meaningful universe would quit or go elsewhere, and the newly attracted "instant-gratification, I-never-should-lose" generation gamers would tire of the antiquated PvE or completely consensual PvP game play and quit in six months.
Daniela Doran Ministry of War Amarr Empire 41	Posted - 2015.07.19 08:35:29 - [56] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Alex Thiesantes wrote: Wonder if there will be that typical eve player mind thing "can I have you're stuff?" Proof that I am indeed not typical, as I ask 'Can I have your stuff?'. Sigh, everyone wants to be a troll so badly. Does it makes you feel that good?
Dracvlad Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 972	Posted - 2015.07.19 09:03:43 - [57] - Quote I do believe that there is a balance issue in hisec and am not scared to say it, I said it with the mining barges and exhumers when they had the tank of a wet paper bag and no choice to get into a ship that was a challenge. I have no issue with ganking and see it as part of the game, but I do find the penalties applied to gankers in hisec too light, my view is docking penalties need to be applied. Of course the HTFU crowd will scream that I want to nerf ganking, but I just want more of a hit then losing a ship they expect to lose and a shuttle or noob ship. My proposal is that any -8.0 security standings have a docking penalty which scales with the security status. The best thing about this game is the players and the worst thing about this game is the players, take it that in this game the hard boss you face are players, see it as a challenge to just operate in this game with the attitude of what is now the majority of players, if it moves shoot it, if it does not move still shoot it. The thing is that I play because I like to compete in a hard game where all the nasties have the advantage. Of course at times I look at the inbalances and think that CCP are a bit looeny, the most recent one was the D-scan immunity, however if you want a challenge of operating in a truly hostile environment where the cards are stacked against you then Eve is your game. I have dropped out a few times when I got bored at just the same lameness, my pet hate is the elite afk cloaky crowd, its just so lame easy peasey that it is not a challenge to do, especially when they do not drop at the sniff of any risk to them, and yet you will find the same players raging on the forums about those lame carebears... Like I said if you want a challenge then Eve has it, if you want an easy life then Eve is not for you, I play to be difficult to kill, I would rather cut my own nose off then give one of these simpering AFK cloaky lame asses a kill, and that is why I play Eve. Ella's Snack bar. With all the data supplied on API/CREST the game should be renamed to Jabber Online, look something to kill, ping everyone!!!!
Angelica Dreamstar Miner's House of ill repute 1063	Posted - 2015.07.19 09:36:52 - [58] - Quote There is no need to nerf an activity that so rarely happens. I'm just kidding of course.
BlkQueen Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2015.07.19 10:16:57 - [59] - Quote I knew the jacka@@es would come out of the woodwork for this thread with their phony elitist attitudes and stupid comebacks. They always do when someone speaks the truth on this game. High sec needs to be just that: High sec. If there is no safe space in the game then stop calling it that or provide more penalities against players that violate it. My gameplay should not be forced to take place in null because CCP Devs cant get their heads out of their asses and actually uphold their own self-imposed security levels. Thats just one example of how they cant get it right, along with attracting the MMO genres biggest griefers and gankers. Actually talking about this has made me cancel my sub. Ill finish out the month and then explore other options. No bitches, you cant have my stuff. Other than that have fun griefing other players! The ones that are still around that is ;)
Renegade Heart Carebear Miners R Us 499	Posted - 2015.07.19 10:20:33 - [60] - Quote BlkQueen wrote: High sec needs to be just that: High sec. If there is no safe space in the game then stop calling it that Nobody is calling it safe space except people who misunderstand the game. It's called high sec because there is a higher level of security in place. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Attacked_in_Secure_Space
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 1228	Posted - 2015.07.19 10:24:09 - [61] - Quote BlkQueen wrote: I knew the jacka@@es would come out of the woodwork for this thread with their phony elitist attitudes and stupid comebacks. They always do when someone speaks the truth on this game. High sec needs to be just that: High sec. If there is no safe space in the game then stop calling it that or provide more penalities against players that violate it. My gameplay should not be forced to take place in null because CCP Devs cant get their heads out of their asses and actually uphold their own self-imposed security levels. Thats just one example of how they cant get it right, along with attracting the MMO genres biggest griefers and gankers. Actually talking about this has made me cancel my sub. Ill finish out the month and then explore other options. No bitches, you cant have my stuff. Other than that have fun griefing other players! The ones that are still around that is ;) It's called highsec, not safesec. Highsec was never 100% safe since the game launched, and in fact has only been made safer over the years. Seems like you weren't playing the game you thought you were. Eve is a competitive sandbox PvP game, not a single-player version of FarmVille set in space. Best of luck finding something else that meets your gaming needs.
Dracvlad Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 976	Posted - 2015.07.19 10:25:59 - [62] - Quote BlkQueen wrote: I knew the jacka@@es would come out of the woodwork for this thread with their phony elitist attitudes and stupid comebacks. They always do when someone speaks the truth on this game. High sec needs to be just that: High sec. If there is no safe space in the game then stop calling it that or provide more penalities against players that violate it. My gameplay should not be forced to take place in null because CCP Devs cant get their heads out of their asses and actually uphold their own self-imposed security levels. Thats just one example of how they cant get it right, along with attracting the MMO genres biggest griefers and gankers. Actually talking about this has made me cancel my sub. Ill finish out the month and then explore other options. No bitches, you cant have my stuff. Other than that have fun griefing other players! The ones that are still around that is ;) Sorry to see you go, I was not trying to come over all hard ass, but just explain my own attitude to Eve based on it being a major challenge. I have had fun getting in the way of gankers and I dedicate some of my time to AG activities to try to do my bit in game. I think the key thing is for CCP to get the right balance, my point of view is not acceptable to many of the less thoughtful gankers, but I actually think it should be a part of the game as my first thought when I look at the balance. Wish you well Ella's Snack bar. With all the data supplied on API/CREST the game should be renamed to Jabber Online, look something to kill, ping everyone!!!!
BlkQueen Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2015.07.19 10:30:01 - [63] - Quote More jackasses...that was a quick turnaround. I love how you people like to define the game for other players. How about letting CCP set the definitions. Eve is supposed to be a sandbox, which means PRECISELY that you play how you want to play. Thats the entire point of being a sandbox game. Having to play in an particular fashion is the opposite of sandbox. The only definition is that there is NO DEFINITION on how one must play. Greifers and gankers set definitions forcing one to accomodate their gameplay. Thats OK in Null where you know that going in. Not so OK in high sec where they have ZERO reprecussions for their actions. But common sense is falling on deaf ears here. I'll stop wasting my time. Bye bitches.
Renegade Heart Carebear Miners R Us 499	Posted - 2015.07.19 10:35:35 - [64] - Quote BlkQueen wrote: More jackasses...that was a quick turnaround. I love how you people like to define the game for other players. How about letting CCP set the definitions. Eve is supposed to be a sandbox, which means PRECISELY that you play how you want to play. Thats the entire point of being a sandbox game. Having to play in an particular fashion is the opposite of sandbox. The only definition is that there is NO DEFINITION on how one must play. Greifers and gankers set definitions forcing one to accomodate their gameplay. Thats OK in Null where you know that going in. Not so OK in high sec where they have ZERO reprecussions for their actions. But common sense is falling on deaf ears here. I'll stop wasting my time. Bye bitches. If there is a chance your post is referring to me, I politely responded in a effort to correct a misunderstanding you seem to have in the game. Those petty insults are rather childish. Perhaps Hello Kitty Online is the game for you after all
BlkQueen Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 23	Posted - 2015.07.19 10:37:00 - [65] - Quote That Hello Kitty/My Little Pony line is old. Find new material jackass.
Avaelica Kuershin Paper Cats 201	Posted - 2015.07.19 11:00:53 - [66] - Quote BlkQueen wrote: More jackasses...that was a quick turnaround. I love how you people like to define the game for other players. How about letting CCP set the definitions. Eve is supposed to be a sandbox, which means PRECISELY that you play how you want to play. Thats the entire point of being a sandbox game. Having to play in an particular fashion is the opposite of sandbox. The only definition is that there is NO DEFINITION on how one must play. Greifers and gankers set definitions forcing one to accomodate their gameplay. Thats OK in Null where you know that going in. Not so OK in high sec where they have ZERO reprecussions for their actions. But common sense is falling on deaf ears here. I'll stop wasting my time. Bye bitches. I do believe that CCP has indeed set out their view of what high security space is, and it certainly doesn't imply complete safety. Now, as for repercussions. There's the GCC, loss of security status leading to faction police chasing the outlaws, and finally, if the criminal isn't already an outlaw, killrights. I think the presence of gankers has made me far more attentive to how I play. Pity that so many prefer to QQ-tank.
xxxTRUSTxxx Galactic Rangers 300	Posted - 2015.07.19 11:13:05 - [67] - Quote I'd just like to thank those that leave the game with grace, honour and respect for what EVE has given them. to claim that evey moment in the game over a period of years was nothing but pain and heartbreak is bollox. op you're an adult. fecking act like one. not a rage quit thread my hole. I'd expect this level of QQ from 12 year old.
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 1231	Posted - 2015.07.19 11:22:17 - [68] - Quote BlkQueen wrote: That Hello Kitty/My Little Pony line is old. Find new material jackass. It's old but it is accurate in your case. That game seems right up your alley: Hello Kitty Online wrote: 15. Is it easy to learn to play Hello Kitty Online? Yes, HKO is deigned to have an easy learning curve. There are many inter-linked game systems, which at first may appear a bit confusing, however a number of NPCs will offer helpful in-game tutorials. It's usually as simple as point and click. Hello Kitty Online wrote: 18. Will there be Player versus Player (PvP)? HKO contains no PvP, and it is highly unlikely that it will be added in the future. There are various other ways to compete with other players, including min-games, special event competitions, and more. And they even have a /cry emote for you to use!
Angelica Dreamstar Miner's House of ill repute 1064	Posted - 2015.07.19 11:30:13 - [69] - Quote BlkQueen wrote: More jackasses...that was a quick turnaround. I love how you people like to define the game for other players. How about letting CCP set the definitions. Eve is supposed to be a sandbox, which means PRECISELY that you play how you want to play. Thats the entire point of being a sandbox game. Having to play in an particular fashion is the opposite of sandbox. The only definition is that there is NO DEFINITION on how one must play. Greifers and gankers set definitions forcing one to accomodate their gameplay. Thats OK in Null where you know that going in. Not so OK in high sec where they have ZERO reprecussions for their actions. But common sense is falling on deaf ears here. I'll stop wasting my time. Bye bitches. You're too blind to see the forest for the trees, even though you planted them yourself. It's a sandbox. Everyone can do what he wants. The game offers mechanics that allow people to live in a state of relative anarchy. People who are mightier will bring down people who aren't. Might makes Right, after all. So you first claim that sandbox precisely means that people can play how they want to play, but then you deny that very fact to those who do so. What you are missing here is that you mistakingly believe that "playing how i want" is some sort of given or bought right. It is not. That's where the freedom of the sandbox comes in. If you can't stand up for yourself, you get pushed around by those who can. That, too, is precisely the sandbox. So it's not THEM forcing you to play how they want, it's YOU wanting to force them to play how YOU want, because you want to be left alone. Which goes against the sandbox, btw. You want to deny other people the freedom to do what they want, while you wrongly believe "freedom" is a given right YOU have and thus they are griefing you for denying you that right. That's far from the game's reality and, tbh, from real life just as much. The real griefers here are people like you, who can't understand that the others are playing the game like they can. You fail to see that you are not only making yourself the victim, but you're also defending yourself like one. There. Sorry, but your logic simply didn't hold up to what's really going on. It's your personal hate that clouds your reason. People aren't equal. Not everybody deserves a chance. If you're not made for it and you can't improve yourself to reach it, then you better accept who you are! And that's why you people get ******. You want, but you don't do anything for it. Those who work for their goals kick you in the balls and then you cry about them being griefers for playing the game the way it's meant to be played. That's all there is to it. I'm just kidding of course.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2009	Posted - 2015.07.19 11:34:59 - [70] - Quote BlkQueen wrote: More jackasses....sandbox ... EVE is not a Second Life space sim. I keep saying that it needs to be put on the front page that this is a, "PVP sandbox." There are defined boundaries and a selection of plastics spades and buckets that are deliberately geared in a specific direction. Your hopes and expectations are blinkering you to what you believe EVE should be but is not and hopefully never will be. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other spaces, where they can grow Fozzie SOV is treating a symptom.
Angelica Dreamstar Miner's House of ill repute 1064	Posted - 2015.07.19 11:36:34 - [71] - Quote Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: BlkQueen wrote: More jackasses....sandbox ... EVE is not a Second Life space sim. I keep saying that it needs to be put on the front page that this is a, "PVP sandbox." There are defined boundaries and a selection of plastics spades and buckets that are deliberately geared in a specific direction. Your hopes and expectations are blinkering you to what you believe EVE should be but is not and hopefully never will be. I know, right? Who in his right mind would want to ruin a perfect bell curve? Who in his right mind would want to ruin a perfect bell curve ?? Player Age Distribution; CCP Quant on reddit.
Dark Reignz Four-Q 45	Posted - 2015.07.19 11:39:16 - [72] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: BlkQueen wrote: I knew the jacka@@es would come out of the woodwork for this thread with their phony elitist attitudes and stupid comebacks. They always do when someone speaks the truth on this game. High sec needs to be just that: High sec. If there is no safe space in the game then stop calling it that or provide more penalities against players that violate it. My gameplay should not be forced to take place in null because CCP Devs cant get their heads out of their asses and actually uphold their own self-imposed security levels. Thats just one example of how they cant get it right, along with attracting the MMO genres biggest griefers and gankers. Actually talking about this has made me cancel my sub. Ill finish out the month and then explore other options. No bitches, you cant have my stuff. Other than that have fun griefing other players! The ones that are still around that is ;) It's called highsec, not safesec. Highsec was never 100% safe since the game launched, and in fact has only been made safer over the years. Seems like you weren't playing the game you thought you were. Eve is a competitive sandbox PvP game, not a single-player version of FarmVille set in space. Best of luck finding something else that meets your gaming needs. But you have to cater for these players too dude. Speaking of farmville it had around 40m active players a month at one point which speaks volumes about solo gameplay. Yes this is a muliplayer but more good than harm will be done by enhancing the solo players experience including those who believe High sec should be a truely safe place where the devs don't turn a blind eye to explotation that circum navigates this and ruins peoples game experience just for someone elses devious kicks. Troll Mode - ON
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 24342	Posted - 2015.07.19 11:40:26 - [73] - Quote BlkQueen wrote: Eve is supposed to be a sandbox, which means PRECISELY that you play how you want to play. Thats the entire point of being a sandbox game. And as long as you stay within a small ruleset it allows you to do exactly that, what it doesn't do is guarantee that you'll succeed at doing so. You and try to play in way you want to, so can everybody else; sometimes those ways of playing will conflict. Eve is a sandbox, one where the core concept is full time PvP, as stated by CCP as per the quote below. New Player FAQ, Page 22 Section 7 wrote: The essential core concept of EVE Online is that it is full time PvP in a sandbox environment. Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Dark Reignz Four-Q 45	Posted - 2015.07.19 11:52:53 - [74] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: BlkQueen wrote: Eve is supposed to be a sandbox, which means PRECISELY that you play how you want to play. Thats the entire point of being a sandbox game. And as long as you stay within a small ruleset it allows you to do exactly that, what it doesn't do is guarantee that you'll succeed at doing so. You can try to play in way you want to, so can everybody else; sometimes those ways of playing will conflict. Eve is a sandbox, one where the core concept is full time PvP, as stated by CCP as per the quote below. New Player FAQ, Page 22 Section 7 wrote: The essential core concept of EVE Online is that it is full time PvP in a sandbox environment. Well its actually not otherwise there would be no high sec, no penalties for killing people in various security levels, no concord police, no station or gate turrets. So pull another one out of your tinfoil hat please. Troll Mode - ON
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 24344	Posted - 2015.07.19 12:08:04 - [75] - Quote Dark Reignz wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: BlkQueen wrote: Eve is supposed to be a sandbox, which means PRECISELY that you play how you want to play. Thats the entire point of being a sandbox game. And as long as you stay within a small ruleset it allows you to do exactly that, what it doesn't do is guarantee that you'll succeed at doing so. You can try to play in way you want to, so can everybody else; sometimes those ways of playing will conflict. Eve is a sandbox, one where the core concept is full time PvP, as stated by CCP as per the quote below. New Player FAQ, Page 22 Section 7 wrote: The essential core concept of EVE Online is that it is full time PvP in a sandbox environment. Well its actually not otherwise there would be no high sec, no penalties for killing people in various security levels, no concord police, no station or gate turrets. So pull another one out of your tinfoil hat please. Which bit about a small ruleset did you miss? In addition none of those things prevent you from doing something, they merely penalise or inconvenience you. Eve is widely recognised as a sandbox within the gaming industry because it has minimal restraints, especially when compared to other MMOs, on what can be done, and where it can be done. Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Kaivar Lancer Hier Trading Company 652	Posted - 2015.07.19 12:11:45 - [76] - Quote Congrats! You win Eve when you quit. :)
Giaus Felix Hedion University Amarr Empire 30	Posted - 2015.07.19 12:13:43 - [77] - Quote Kaivar Lancer wrote: Congrats! You win Eve when you quit. :) Nah, you win Eve when you haven't logged in for a couple of years, yet still get to command a coalition of thousands and mess with a game you no longer play.
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 1233	Posted - 2015.07.19 12:18:32 - [78] - Quote Dark Reignz wrote: But you have to cater for these players too dude. Speaking of farmville it had around 40m active players a month at one point which speaks volumes about solo gameplay. Yes this is a muliplayer but more good than harm will be done by enhancing the solo players experience including those who believe High sec should be a truely safe place where the devs don't turn a blind eye to explotation that circum navigates this and ruins peoples game experience just for someone elses devious kicks. You do not have to cater to them. In fact, you probably can't cater to them and keep your core audience happy. Too many things break when players can grind resources in absolute safety - players just abuse this safety to AFK grind the economy into the ground. CCP has made this clear that nowhere is suppose to be safe many times, and CCP Seagull has shown no hint that she is planning to change the direction of the game. If anything, she is doubling-down on the player-driven interactions and conflict part of the game. Dark Reignz wrote: Well its actually not otherwise there would be no high sec, no penalties for killing people in various security levels, no concord police, no station or gate turrets. So pull another one out of your tinfoil hat please. I think you need to check your expectations about this game. Jonah is not part of some giant conspiracy that CCP is on to the point they are lying to their customers in the New Pilot FAQ. In that document CCP spells out in no uncertain terms what type of game this is, and that is full-time PvP in a sandbox environment. Sure there are some place where NPCs shape the types of conflict that can go on, but nowhere is safe and you are subject to interference from other players pretty much everywhere. I agree with Jenshae that the type of game this is needs to be spelled out clearly to new players. PvP sandbox does not mean you get to do whatever you want - it means you can try to do anything you want but other players also get to try to stop you. Many players don't get this and many wouldn't have started playing if they really understood what type of game this is. When they figure that out three or six months down the line, it produces comical killmails, tears, whining to change the game, and rage-quitting like the OP, and that other guy in this thread.
Daniela Doran Ministry of War Amarr Empire 41	Posted - 2015.07.19 12:25:18 - [79] - Quote BlkQueen wrote: More jackasses...that was a quick turnaround. I love how you people like to define the game for other players. How about letting CCP set the definitions. Eve is supposed to be a sandbox, which means PRECISELY that you play how you want to play. Thats the entire point of being a sandbox game. Having to play in an particular fashion is the opposite of sandbox. The only definition is that there is NO DEFINITION on how one must play. Greifers and gankers set definitions forcing one to accomodate their gameplay. Thats OK in Null where you know that going in. Not so OK in high sec where they have ZERO reprecussions for their actions. But common sense is falling on deaf ears here. I'll stop wasting my time. Bye bitches. That may be what eve was at first, but over time the gankers came and took over (actually contaminated) the game into what it is today. Some find it enjoyable, some don't, the ones who don't eventually leave. But whether good or bad, the majority of the players now have learn to adapt and have come to accept eve for what it is. The game called eve is now the most evil, cruelest, vicious, and merciless MMO game in existence and the people who play it now, play it for that experience. To be able to play a game like this you need to have a pretty thick spine and a high tolerance for misfortune. If you don't have those then you need to adapt and develop a sorta mental barrier (that houses yourself). When you feel this barrier about to be breach (from been overganked) then that would be your time to take a break from eve. Over time after that mental barrier recharge back up to 100% then you can come back and play eve again anew. I did what you and the OP is threaten to do back in 2012, I raged quit eve and biomassed all 4 of my chars. Not from been ganked but because CCP took away my Cane and Drake. I really liked those ships back then and grudged CCP for reducing them to uselessness. But what I failed to realized is that in just 4 more months I would've been able to fly the Sleipnir and Damnation. Time passed and I played other games like Skyrim, Grand theft auto, Mass effect etc, and that's when I realize what I missed about eve. That Adrenaline Rush. No other games I played could provide me with that adrenaline rush that eve did. So you've guess it, I came back in mid 2014 and had to start all over again. So my advice to you and the OP, is to take a break from eve for a few months or a year (assuming it last another year), and if you still have no desire for eve then you can officially resign your eve career at that time, but rage quitting isn't a good idea unless you're 100% certain you won't want to return.
Webvan All Kill No Skill 11265	Posted - 2015.07.19 12:34:41 - [80] - Quote DeMichael Crimson wrote: Tiberius Heth wrote: Alex Thiesantes wrote: maybe just this, shouldn't a game be a place where a player can relax and get to do some FUN!!! stuff with like minded players after a day of work on the little free time he has? Your corp history shows that you have put in zero effort to find like minded people, as you put it. Who's fault is that, yours or the game's? Heh, Corp history doesn't mean anything unless it's filled with lot's of corps due to WarDec dodging. Anyway, I understand the OP's point and quite honestly I agree with it. Over the years this game has steadily become more grim due to a steady influx of players with 'Grief' mentality, basically causing the game to lose it's fun factor. DMC You know how many times I've seen players ragequit... then be back in 6 months? Like IZ for instance. Goes to another game, gets griefed, then comrs right back. All mmo's have major griefing now. Only here you can shoot back. The man needs to biomass, rather than bouncing back later next year with the same character to just ragequit again. Ragequitters are just out to get a kick out of it. Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 24344	Posted - 2015.07.19 12:43:46 - [81] - Quote Daniela Doran wrote: That may be what eve was at first, but over time the gankers came and took over (actually contaminated) the game into what it is today. Some find it enjoyable, some don't, the ones who don't eventually leave. But whether good or bad, the majority of the players now have learn to adapt and have come to accept eve for what it is. The game called eve is now the most evil, cruelest, vicious, and merciless MMO game in existence and the people who play it now, play it for that experience. To be able to play a game like this you need to have a pretty thick spine and a high tolerance for misfortune. If you don't have those then you need to adapt and develop a sorta mental barrier (that houses yourself). When you feel this barrier about to be breach (from been overganked) then that would be your time to take a break from eve. Over time after that mental barrier recharge back up to 100% then you can come back and play eve again anew. Gankers have always been in Eve. It's harder to carry out now than it ever was and for the most part requires multiple players to do what used to be possible to do solo. It's always been one of the most evil, cruelest, vicious, and merciless MMOs game in existence; by design. Common consensus opinion at CCP about the nature of Eve seems to be in line with this post by CCP Falcon. Hisec is only as safe as you make it for yourself, if you can't be bothered to take the most basic of precautions or use the game mechanics to your advantage that's your lookout. Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Melissa Redoran Economic Services 21	Posted - 2015.07.19 13:01:57 - [82] - Quote Quote: You're a loser George Carlin
Dracvlad Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 978	Posted - 2015.07.19 13:53:43 - [83] - Quote Daniela Doran wrote: BlkQueen wrote: More jackasses...that was a quick turnaround. I love how you people like to define the game for other players. How about letting CCP set the definitions. Eve is supposed to be a sandbox, which means PRECISELY that you play how you want to play. Thats the entire point of being a sandbox game. Having to play in an particular fashion is the opposite of sandbox. The only definition is that there is NO DEFINITION on how one must play. Greifers and gankers set definitions forcing one to accomodate their gameplay. Thats OK in Null where you know that going in. Not so OK in high sec where they have ZERO reprecussions for their actions. But common sense is falling on deaf ears here. I'll stop wasting my time. Bye bitches. That may be what eve was at first, but over time the gankers came and took over (actually contaminated) the game into what it is today. Some find it enjoyable, some don't, the ones who don't eventually leave. But whether good or bad, the majority of the players now have learn to adapt and have come to accept eve for what it is. The game called eve is now the most evil, cruelest, vicious, and merciless MMO game in existence and the people who play it now, play it for that experience. To be able to play a game like this you need to have a pretty thick spine and a high tolerance for misfortune. If you don't have those then you need to adapt and develop a sorta mental barrier (that houses yourself). When you feel this barrier about to be breach (from been overganked) then that would be your time to take a break from eve. Over time after that mental barrier recharge back up to 100% then you can come back and play eve again anew. I did what you and the OP is threaten to do back in 2012, I raged quit eve and biomassed all 4 of my chars. Not from been ganked but because CCP took away my Cane and Drake. I really liked those ships back then and grudged CCP for reducing them to uselessness. But what I failed to realized is that in just 4 more months I would've been able to fly the Sleipnir and Damnation. Time passed and I played other games like Skyrim, Grand theft auto, Mass effect etc, and that's when I realize what I missed about eve. That Adrenaline Rush. No other games I played could provide me with that adrenaline rush that eve did. So you've guess it, I came back in mid 2014 and had to start all over again. So my advice to you and the OP, is to take a break from eve for a few months or a year (assuming it last another year), and if you still have no desire for eve then you can officially resign your eve career at that time, but rage quitting isn't a good idea unless you're 100% certain you won't want to return. I think this is such a spot on post, I was close to not playing at all after the D-scan immunity, which followed on from various nerfs to my play style and things that made it easier and easier to catch people. It can be fun to test yourself and that is now how I view Eve. However let me be blunt, there are a lot of things I no longer even bother do in game because its too damn easy to be caught or griefed, or face too hard a battle, its not clever to throw yourself into an impossible battle. This game is not for casual's who want to relax, especially now that causal players are in a minority and there are just so many people desperately looking for someone to harvest tears from. Play Eve when you feel you want a challenge, but walk away when it gets to you, thats how I approach it and I am having fun, it does help having high skilled characters, lots of ISK, the ability to PvP and an attitude. Because I approach the game first on the basis of making it hard for me to be an easy kill, but I do miss out on quite a few areas of the game now... Ella's Snack bar. With all the data supplied on API/CREST the game should be renamed to Jabber Online, look something to kill, ping everyone!!!!
Jenshae Chiroptera 2011	Posted - 2015.07.19 14:22:11 - [84] - Quote I do dislike the predator and prey model, where there is no fight, just a kill. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other spaces, where they can grow Fozzie SOV is treating a symptom.
Angelica Dreamstar Miner's House of ill repute 1066	Posted - 2015.07.19 16:21:47 - [85] - Quote Melissa Redoran wrote: Quote: You're a loser George Carlin I will use that from now on. Though I still believe this isn't comedy at all and all these people are either of a much higher social status and laughing about the brainwashed masses of human labour, or they ARE the brainwashed masses themselves. Who in his right mind would want to ruin a perfect bell curve ?? Player Age Distribution; CCP Quant on reddit.
Gil Arthie The Scope Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2015.07.19 16:32:29 - [86] - Quote This thread is a perfect example of why people are leaving/taking a break from eve. While I dont personally sympathise with OP in his ways of thinking or his opinionated views on eve. It's how you, out of game, treat this individual, that just makes people sick to the bone. You basically made trolling and mischeif an art. Nowadays GD looks like a playground for the 20 same indivuals, all harrasing away at anyone voicing an opinion. And you all know it all to well too. Personally, I wont be suprised that newcommers and others that join/come back to the game. Take one read on this forums, and decides that this is just not worth paying money for. Maybe if eve was ftp, the Level of childish melavolence would be understandable, or even expected. Some People just stop Reading the forum, due to how people act out of game. And they just silently decide that this is become to much of a "greifers paradise" to suit even the hardcore of the greifers. The ones that actualy differenciate between game and irl. At some point, we will se you guys leaving a sinking ship, like rats fleeing from water. To bad for CCP that, when that day comes, the game will have sufferd too much. Say what you like, its not like a whole lot of people care or are reading this parts of the forums anymore. -Vile thougths from a former ganker/theif/greifer.
Angelica Dreamstar Miner's House of ill repute 1068	Posted - 2015.07.19 16:33:37 - [87] - Quote No paragraphs, not worth reading. Who in his right mind would want to ruin a perfect bell curve ?? Player Age Distribution; CCP Quant on reddit.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2012	Posted - 2015.07.19 16:48:50 - [88] - Quote Gil Arthie wrote: ... It's how you, out of game, treat this individual, that just makes people sick to the bone. You basically made trolling and mischeif an art. Nowadays GD looks like a playground for the 20 same indivuals, .... Front page, some of the regulars helping with buying a laptop. Front page, regulars supporting someone with an impairment and requesting CCP help them. Page 2, regulars sympathising with someone who has hearing impairment. I see no need to go on, you can look through threads just as easily. When people ask for help, politely they are helped. The OP was given solid advice and seems to have not acted upon it then behaved like a drama queen. Your sanctimonious speech is a waste of time to read as it has very little to stand upon. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other spaces, where they can grow Fozzie SOV is treating a symptom.
Angelica Dreamstar Miner's House of ill repute 1069	Posted - 2015.07.19 16:59:12 - [89] - Quote Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: Gil Arthie wrote: ... It's how you, out of game, treat this individual, that just makes people sick to the bone. You basically made trolling and mischeif an art. Nowadays GD looks like a playground for the 20 same indivuals, .... Front page, some of the regulars helping with buying a laptop. Front page, regulars supporting someone with an impairment and requesting CCP help them. Page 2, regulars sympathising with someone who has hearing impairment. I see no need to go on, you can look through threads just as easily. When people ask for help, politely they are helped. The OP was given solid advice and seems to have not acted upon it then behaved like a drama queen. Your sanctimonious speech is a waste of time to read as it has very little to stand upon. Heh you read his angry drivel. No paragraphs, no service, Who in his right mind would want to ruin a perfect bell curve ?? Player Age Distribution; CCP Quant on reddit.
McChicken Combo HalfMayo The Happy Meal 899	Posted - 2015.07.19 18:59:54 - [90] - Quote This thread might deliver, but it does seem to have a distinct lack of classic Veers shiptoasting... a growing trend which has begun to worry me. I'm not sure what I'll do with myself if Veers has quit shiptoasting. There are all our dominion Gate camps: "Its like the lowsec watercooler, just with explosions and boose" - Ralph King-Griffin
Jenshae Chiroptera 2015	Posted - 2015.07.19 19:08:58 - [91] - Quote McChicken Combo HalfMayo wrote: This thread might deliver, ... No, I am sorry. Delivery is cancelled. You will have to come collect. It will be cold and congealed by the time you get here. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other spaces, where they can grow Fozzie SOV is treating a symptom.
BlkQueen Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 24	Posted - 2015.07.19 19:37:37 - [92] - Quote Angelica Dreamstar wrote: Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: Gil Arthie wrote: ... It's how you, out of game, treat this individual, that just makes people sick to the bone. You basically made trolling and mischeif an art. Nowadays GD looks like a playground for the 20 same indivuals, .... Front page, some of the regulars helping with buying a laptop. Front page, regulars supporting someone with an impairment and requesting CCP help them. Page 2, regulars sympathising with someone who has hearing impairment. I see no need to go on, you can look through threads just as easily. When people ask for help, politely they are helped. The OP was given solid advice and seems to have not acted upon it then behaved like a drama queen. Your sanctimonious speech is a waste of time to read as it has very little to stand upon. Heh you read his angry drivel. No paragraphs, no service, Thanks for proving his point.
beakerax Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 173	Posted - 2015.07.19 20:21:06 - [93] - Quote If being bountied is what you consider "griefing", your problem may be that you are too easily griefed.
BlkQueen Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 27	Posted - 2015.07.19 20:26:01 - [94] - Quote ***** please, stop blaming the victims just admit your an obnoxious AHoles and be done. I can deal with that admission. Stop trying to play the "blame the victims" "they deserved it" bullcrap because that wont work here. From what I have heard from other sources is the game devs are greatly influenced by the larger corps and hence manage their expectations. This attack on High sec and lack of substantial penalties is some political game to allow bigger corps to keep their Sovereign spaces. I dont know if its true, but it sure looks like it. CCP Devs have proven in the past that they are susceptible to player pressure, so I would not be surprised.
Mag's the united 19848	Posted - 2015.07.19 20:34:01 - [95] - Quote BlkQueen wrote: Thanks for proving his point. Also insofar as asking "politely" thats complete bullshit in this game. I asked for help here on forums several times and ingame HELP channel and got a bounty put on me because it was something "I should have known". Please with the nonsense. The game AND forums are full of obnoxious griefers. I'm not surprised you were not helped, if your posts in this thread are anything to go by. I have a feeling it was your pleasant approach to other players, that gained you the bounty (which isn't griefing btw). Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
0bama Barack Hussein Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 69	Posted - 2015.07.19 20:42:27 - [96] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: Look at Elite: Dangerous. Only the most thoroughbred carebear finds that game entertaining for any length of time. Sure it is pretty, but without consequences there is little meaning to the actual gameplay and no matter what they add, the ability to opt-out of player conflict means it never will have meaning. It will always be a glorified spaceflight simulator, never a vibrant living universe like New Eden has become. I found out myself that same goes in ED as in EvE, you make it fun for YOURSELF (in case of ED, just make a decision to stay always in Open, and decide not to bother about carebears in Solo mode). Or then fail in it.
BlkQueen Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 27	Posted - 2015.07.19 20:52:35 - [97] - Quote Mag's wrote: BlkQueen wrote: Thanks for proving his point. Also insofar as asking "politely" thats complete bullshit in this game. I asked for help here on forums several times and ingame HELP channel and got a bounty put on me because it was something "I should have known". Please with the nonsense. The game AND forums are full of obnoxious griefers. I'm not surprised you were not helped, if your posts in this thread are anything to go by. I have a feeling it was your pleasant approach to other players, that gained you the bounty (which isn't griefing btw). Edit: Just looked at your posting history and I see a thread you started and many in it answering your questions politely. Hardly the obnoxious griefers you make them out to be. Your bounty placement wasn't as you suggested either. The real reason for it, you posted here. BlkQueen wrote: If you dont like stealing...then don't. I would have done exactly what he did, bountyied you just in the slim chance that you would care. But I have a better story. I stepped into a friends public chat room and asked if one of his alts was on. Some one said that he was waiting on me to s--- h-- d---. I told him to shove off and BOOM, 100 million isk bounty on me. I'm a carebear miner running around with a 100 mill isk bounty on my face. I didnt care after I realized that bounties mean nothing in this game, but I did get alot of questions when I tried to get into a new corp. It was kinda like having athletes foot...not fatal, mostly ignorable, but occasionally annoying. So why exactly are you bitter? Your not very bright. I asked the questions on my main character and there is where I experienced the grief and the bounty. Not on this alt. I only used this alt because I know coming into the forums here and saying anything that differs from the AHoles would get me harrassed and bountied again. Try again and have several seats while your at it. Also that bounty was the first one, it was gone after I left the game. This recent incident was when I went into the HELP channel in game.
Darek Castigatus Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 667	Posted - 2015.07.19 20:54:39 - [98] - Quote BlkQueen wrote: *** please, stop blaming the victims just admit your an obnoxious AHoles and be done. I can deal with that admission. Stop trying to play the "blame the victims" "they deserved it" bullcrap because that wont work here. From what I have heard from other sources is the game devs are greatly influenced by the larger corps and hence manage their expectations. This attack on High sec and lack of substantial penalties is some political game to allow bigger corps to keep their Sovereign spaces. I dont know if its true, but it sure looks like it. CCP Devs have proven in the past that they are susceptible to player pressure, so I would not be surprised. No, we wont admit it because it isn't true, the only obnoxious ***** here is you and your nice side helping of self rightous bullshit. You want to claim victim blaming that's fine, its total shite though and even if it were true you're still trying to blame an entire community for the actions of a vanishingly small percentage of its members. You claim highsec has been ignored but its had more buffs to its gameplay than low and nullsec combined. Heres just a few of the buffs highsec has had - Multiple nerfs to suicide ganking techniques, removal of insurance payouts for CONCORD kills, buffs to mining barge health and yield, reduction in concord response times for higher sec systems, the introduction of freighters, the introduction of the orca, the introduction of the bowhead. Highsec also has by far the two most lucrative income streams and its no coincidence that every major trade hub is in highsec space. Do your research before you start spouting such spurious claims in the future. I see now why no-one wants to try and help you more than once, Your arrogance and willful ignorance are pathetic. Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin you're welcome
BlkQueen Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 27	Posted - 2015.07.19 20:59:27 - [99] - Quote Darek Castigatus wrote: BlkQueen wrote: *** please, stop blaming the victims just admit your an obnoxious AHoles and be done. I can deal with that admission. Stop trying to play the "blame the victims" "they deserved it" bullcrap because that wont work here. From what I have heard from other sources is the game devs are greatly influenced by the larger corps and hence manage their expectations. This attack on High sec and lack of substantial penalties is some political game to allow bigger corps to keep their Sovereign spaces. I dont know if its true, but it sure looks like it. CCP Devs have proven in the past that they are susceptible to player pressure, so I would not be surprised. No, we wont admit it because it isn't true, the only obnoxious ***** here is you and your nice side helping of self rightous bullshit. You want to claim victim blaming that's fine, its total shite though and even if it were true you're still trying to blame an entire community for the actions of a vanishingly small percentage of its members. You claim highsec has been ignored but its had more buffs to its gameplay than low and nullsec combined. Heres just a few of the buffs highsec has had - Multiple nerfs to suicide ganking techniques, removal of insurance payouts for CONCORD kills, buffs to mining barge health and yield, reduction in concord response times for higher sec systems, the introduction of freighters, the introduction of the orca, the introduction of the bowhead. Highsec also has by far the two most lucrative income streams and its no coincidence that every major trade hub is in highsec space. Do your research before you start spouting such spurious claims in the future. I see now why no-one wants to try and help you more than once, Your arrogance and willful ignorance are pathetic. Hit dogs Holler. And you sure are hollering! I didnt claim High sec was ignored idiot, I said there are lack of penalties for ganking. Continue to blame the decent players for the crap you obnoxious fucks put them through. Pretty soon you will have the game all to yourselves. More power to ya! Out.
Darek Castigatus Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 667	Posted - 2015.07.19 21:00:52 - [100] - Quote BlkQueen wrote: Darek Castigatus wrote: BlkQueen wrote: *** please, stop blaming the victims just admit your an obnoxious AHoles and be done. I can deal with that admission. Stop trying to play the "blame the victims" "they deserved it" bullcrap because that wont work here. From what I have heard from other sources is the game devs are greatly influenced by the larger corps and hence manage their expectations. This attack on High sec and lack of substantial penalties is some political game to allow bigger corps to keep their Sovereign spaces. I dont know if its true, but it sure looks like it. CCP Devs have proven in the past that they are susceptible to player pressure, so I would not be surprised. No, we wont admit it because it isn't true, the only obnoxious ***** here is you and your nice side helping of self rightous bullshit. You want to claim victim blaming that's fine, its total shite though and even if it were true you're still trying to blame an entire community for the actions of a vanishingly small percentage of its members. You claim highsec has been ignored but its had more buffs to its gameplay than low and nullsec combined. Heres just a few of the buffs highsec has had - Multiple nerfs to suicide ganking techniques, removal of insurance payouts for CONCORD kills, buffs to mining barge health and yield, reduction in concord response times for higher sec systems, the introduction of freighters, the introduction of the orca, the introduction of the bowhead. Highsec also has by far the two most lucrative income streams and its no coincidence that every major trade hub is in highsec space. Do your research before you start spouting such spurious claims in the future. I see now why no-one wants to try and help you more than once, Your arrogance and willful ignorance are pathetic. Hit dogs Holler. And you sure are hollering! I didnt claim High sec was ignored idiot, I said there are lack of penalties for ganking. Continue to blame the decent players for the crap you obnoxious fucks put them through. Pretty soon you will have the game all to yourselves. More power to ya! Out. Thank you for proving my point so perfectly. Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin you're welcome
Mag's the united 19852	Posted - 2015.07.19 21:15:43 - [101] - Quote BlkQueen wrote: Your not very bright. Irony, you have to love it. Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
beakerax Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 175	Posted - 2015.07.19 21:21:51 - [102] - Quote TIL griefing can be as simple as voicing skepticism over a forum poster's self-serving narrative.
Avaelica Kuershin Paper Cats 204	Posted - 2015.07.19 21:31:39 - [103] - Quote beakerax wrote: TIL griefing can be as simple as voicing skepticism over a forum poster's self-serving narrative. I continue to be amazed by what some people consider griefing. Though I shouldn't be... someone mentioned Second Life earlier.
Cancel Align NOW Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 523	Posted - 2015.07.19 21:34:17 - [104] - Quote You guys are being trolled by a bounty baiter
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 6396	Posted - 2015.07.19 21:36:19 - [105] - Quote It's fairly simple isn't it? If you intend to cause someone grief then that's griefing, regardless of method. And let's face it, the majority of posters on this forum post primarily with that intention. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Shiloh Templeton Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 351	Posted - 2015.07.19 22:22:50 - [106] - Quote Omega Capsuleer wrote: What does it say that people feel the need to persecute players even at the point they are walking out the door? What do you expect when he insults everyone else in the game?
Jacques d'Orleans The Scope Gallente Federation 637	Posted - 2015.07.19 22:38:58 - [107] - Quote You know what guys and girls? If that game is so mean and bad and wounded your sensible souls so fracking much, then just cancel your subscription and leave the game. But please, for the love of God, spare us your whining in threads like this one! Stop being pathetic self entitled brats who are whining, moaning and bitching, like a five year old who doesn't want to eat his spinach! You are adults, ******* act as such!
Jenshae Chiroptera 2021	Posted - 2015.07.19 22:53:34 - [108] - Quote BlkQueen wrote: ... Continue to blame the decent players .... Decent players would know at the very least how to evade and mitigate "griefing" in High Sec. There are a lot of tools to drive some stalking them crazy. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other spaces, where they can grow Fozzie SOV is treating a symptom.
ISD Decoy ISD Community Communications Liaisons 815	Posted - 2015.07.19 23:09:50 - [109] - Quote I started off cleaning this thread, but soon realized it'd be better locked. Quote: 2. Be respectful toward others at all times. The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others. 3. Ranting is prohibited. A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents. 4. Personal attacks are prohibited. Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not conductive to the community spirit that CCP promotes. As such, this kind of behavior will not be tolerated. 5. Trolling is prohibited. Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive, and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote. 8. Use of profanity is prohibited. The use of profanity is prohibited on the EVE Online forums. This includes the partial masking of letters using numbers or alternate symbols, and any attempts at bypassing the profanity filter. 13. Spamming is prohibited. Spam is defined as the repetitive posting of the same topic or nonsensical post that has no substance and is often designed to annoy other forum users. This can include the words GÇ£firstGÇ¥, GÇ£go back to insert other game nameGÇ¥ and other such posts that contribute no value to forum discussion. Spamming also includes the posting of ASCII art within a forum post, or the practice of GÇ£thread necromancyGÇ¥ which involved bumping of old threads for no justifiable reason. 17. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked. As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread. 23. Post constructively. Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting. 27. Off-topic posting is prohibited. Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued to the off-topic poster Thread locked. ISD Decoy Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department

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