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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
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Posted - 2015.07.19 02:11:22 -
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So as the title says, How many of you have achieved this goal?
I currently have 77 days and 17 hours to go, At which point I will have 207 skills at level 5 and 201 skills at level 4 for a total of 207 million SP out of a possible 456.3 million SP.
Then it's level 5s all the way to the finish line.
(well at least until new skills get added by CCP ) |

digitalwanderer
DW inc
395
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Posted - 2015.07.19 19:08:32 -
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Amateratsu wrote:So as the title says, How many of you have achieved this goal? I currently have 77 days and 17 hours to go, At which point I will have 207 skills at level 5 and 201 skills at level 4 for a total of 207 million SP out of a possible 456.3 million SP. Then it's level 5s all the way to the finish line. (well at least until new skills get added by CCP  )
Means that at a little over 24 million SP trained per year with perfect attributes, you'll have another ~10 years to go to get everything to lvl 5.
I think that's plenty of time for CCP to introduce new skills.....LOL
I'm at 218 skills to level 5 and almost 260 million in total, but going step by step and aiming for the big 300 million sp.....We'll see after that...LOL.
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
77
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Posted - 2015.07.19 20:22:58 -
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digitalwanderer wrote:
Means that at a little over 24 million SP trained per year with perfect attributes, you'll have another ~10 years to go to get everything to lvl 5.
Will also depend on if and when CCP decide to remove Attributes / Learning Implants and what base training speed they set.
Tho I don't believe anyone will ever finish every skill, how many new skills will be added over the next 10 years? I think Eve will come to a close before anyone gets close to completing every skill.
But it would be 1 hell of an achievement |

digitalwanderer
DW inc
395
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Posted - 2015.07.20 00:41:45 -
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Amateratsu wrote:digitalwanderer wrote:
Means that at a little over 24 million SP trained per year with perfect attributes, you'll have another ~10 years to go to get everything to lvl 5.
Will also depend on if and when CCP decide to remove Attributes / Learning Implants and what base training speed they set. Tho I don't believe anyone will ever finish every skill, how many new skills will be added over the next 10 years? I think Eve will come to a close before anyone gets close to completing every skill. But it would be 1 hell of an achievement 
Been playing for 12 years straight, and have 8 years to go at my current pace so we'll see....:P
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Dominique Vasilkovsky
BFG Tech
299
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Posted - 2015.07.20 13:21:21 -
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Amateratsu wrote:So as the title says, How many of you have achieved this goal? I currently have 77 days and 17 hours to go, At which point I will have 207 skills at level 5 and 201 skills at level 4 for a total of 207 million SP out of a possible 456.3 million SP. Then it's level 5s all the way to the finish line. (well at least until new skills get added by CCP  ) The only one I know of is RaTTuS and he reached that milestone quite a while ago.
I don't think I will reach that club as the two "mobile" skills no longer are to be found.
Dominique Vasilkovsky EVEboard
Once known as:
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Mag's
the united
19859
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Posted - 2015.07.20 18:45:17 -
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There are certain skills I will never have injected, so even the 300 level 5 club could be out of reach for me. Although it may be close.
There are some amazing skill sheets out there, that's for sure.
Destination SkillQueue:-
It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
5107
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Posted - 2015.07.21 03:31:56 -
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Will never train a titan skill 
5.5 billion ISK * 4 skill books = 22 billion ISK |

Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
420
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Posted - 2015.07.21 07:01:47 -
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It's been a long while since I've heard from other skill collectors (Tripoli was the most vocal I recall and I haven't heard anything from him for a long while...). It seems things have moved on since those days - plugging the skills in used to be enough, that there are folk training Astronautic Engineering to level 4 now makes me feel behind the curve again...
Those damned expensive Titan skills...  |

Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
77
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Posted - 2015.07.21 09:05:21 -
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Tell me about it... In reality I've spent nearer 35 Billion to acquire every skill over the last 10 years (taking into account what I paid for the rare unimplemented skills like Mobile Factory Operation).
However seeing myself ranked in the top 10 for total skills along with many other veteran players leaves me with no regrets.
At the end of the day its just isk, and there's plenty more where that came from |

Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
1046
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Posted - 2015.07.21 09:57:25 -
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having everything trained to 4 is an odd achievement, putting you miles away from All-V just for the questionable desire to be able of doing everything at least IV. Specialization and perfection is a more common goal, is also more valuable than wasting SP that way. |

Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
77
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Posted - 2015.07.21 17:38:48 -
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Robert Caldera wrote:having everything trained to 4 is an odd achievement, putting you miles away from All-V just for the questionable desire to be able of doing everything at least IV. Specialization and perfection is a more common goal, is also more valuable than wasting SP that way.
Explain to me what sp has been wasted?
I can fly every ship ingame, I can play every profession ingame, I have every single support skill to level 4, I can fit and use virtually every single module / equipment ingame.
There is virtually nothing I cannot do ingame, I'am specialised in everything.
What more specialization can be achieved other than getting every skill to level 5?
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
5112
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Posted - 2015.07.21 21:56:45 -
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Amateratsu wrote: Explain to me what sp has been wasted?
I can fly every ship ingame, I can play every profession ingame, I have every single support skill to level 4, I can fit and use virtually every single module / equipment ingame.
There is virtually nothing I cannot do ingame, I'am specialised in everything.
You are a generalist, or jack-of-all-trades.
I agree though, as level 5 in many skills offers a small bonus for the amount of time, which for the most part will only make a difference if you are one-on-one fighting, rather than in a fleet setting where the difference won't be noticed.
Sure, if you find yourself piloting HACs constantly, training that to 5 would be beneficial if you had nothing else to train. |

digitalwanderer
DW inc
395
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Posted - 2015.07.22 04:52:57 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:Amateratsu wrote: Explain to me what sp has been wasted?
I can fly every ship ingame, I can play every profession ingame, I have every single support skill to level 4, I can fit and use virtually every single module / equipment ingame.
There is virtually nothing I cannot do ingame, I'am specialised in everything.
You are a generalist, or jack-of-all-trades. I agree though, as level 5 in many skills offers a small bonus for the amount of time, which for the most part will only make a difference if you are one-on-one fighting, rather than in a fleet setting where the difference won't be noticed. Sure, if you find yourself piloting HACs constantly, training that to 5 would be beneficial if you had nothing else to train.
I'd like to count myself as a generalist, but with a big emphasis on ships and ship related skills above all the others......Any ship class, or role or weapons they may use, or if they're armor tankers or shield tankers, or race it belongs to is going to be completely maxed out....This will be a reality by sometime next year and I get to 300 million SP mark and upwards of 260 skills to lvl 5.
The rest (corporation, social, mining, research, production or trade), can easily stay at lvl 4 and i'll be perfectly happy with it.....They don't make me a more flexible and adaptable ship pilot.....I'm almost at the point where I'm nerf proof no matter what CCP does to any particular ship.....It's a nice feeling ( I get the last laugh....LOL).
After that point, I have no clue what's next?..... |

digitalwanderer
DW inc
395
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Posted - 2015.07.22 05:35:02 -
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Did a quick review just now, and as it stands there's 218 skills at lvl 5 now, and I have:
23 skills left that use perception / willpower for a total of 357 days, so that get's me to 241 skills to lvl 5.
Then there's 31 skills using Intel and memory attributes and they're mostly short skills with a few long ones here and there, bringing me up to 272 skills to lvl 5.
And finally we have the drone skills to max out which are only 9 skills left to max out anyhow, and not particularly long ones at that, and the char can remap right now and still has 2 bonus remaps left... Takes me to 281 skills to lvl 5....
Might actually have enough to take me to 2017 after all, but I'm knocking them down faster than CCP are introducing new ones, as I don't see 63 completely new skills pop up in the same time I train these out, and they have to be in skill trees I'm actually interested in to begin with.... |

Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
5127
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Posted - 2015.07.23 17:55:50 -
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digitalwanderer wrote:After that point, I have no clue what's next?..... I'd recommend leadership after all things ship related, followed by trade because everyone buys and sells something.
After that, perhaps a short trip into industry to pick-up scrapmetal processing 5.
After that, perhaps PI.
After that it gets tough IMHO. |

digitalwanderer
DW inc
395
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Posted - 2015.07.26 03:05:23 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:digitalwanderer wrote:After that point, I have no clue what's next?..... I'd recommend leadership after all things ship related, followed by trade because everyone buys and sells something. After that, perhaps a short trip into industry to pick-up scrapmetal processing 5. After that, perhaps PI, or starbase defense. After that it gets tough IMHO.
Not really interested in any of that, since I've been operating solo just fine, and not to boast, but have more isk than I know what do with ( don't beg for any, as it isn't happening...:P).
Star base operations would only matter if I actually operated one, and I don't either......Same for trades.
Ships and or equipment related to ships, represents about 3/4 of the entire skill list and it's going down within the next 18 months give or take......It's like a marathon and after 12 years, I can see the finish line...LOL |

Kirja
Aliastra Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.07.28 19:44:40 -
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Current Skills: 406 (Skill Points: 200 360 358) , all skills at least to level 4.
408? I guess the two "collector's edition" skills that i am missing are not really attainable anymore.
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Kirja |

Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2015.08.03 06:39:55 -
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As I'm focused on combat/core skills I'll never achieve it. |

Lord Darkness
Super Muppets Accumulated Space Holding Inc
0
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Posted - 2015.08.11 18:09:26 -
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I was the first to achieve this, did it quite a while back. |

Erika Mizune
The Soul Society DeepSpace.
1838
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Posted - 2015.10.07 05:36:06 -
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http://eveboard.com/pilot/Towaoc <-- That guy has all the skills injected, 409, you're missing the skill "Astronautic Engineering" - The skill book is still out there if you're willing to shell out the insane prices people are selling them for.
Myself I have 319, so I have a bit of ways to go, lol. :3
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
78
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Posted - 2015.10.07 06:31:10 -
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Erika Mizune wrote:http://eveboard.com/pilot/Towaoc <-- That guy has all the skills injected, 409, you're missing the skill "Astronautic Engineering" - The skill book is still out there if you're willing to shell out the insane prices people are selling them for.  Myself I have 319, so I have a bit of ways to go, lol. :3
I have Astronautic Engineering, got it before it was discontinued.
The extra skillbook that Towaoc has is "Black Market Trading" which was only availlable to certain races during character creation years ago and is unobtainable to anyone who did not get it at the time.
I have now completed All availlable skills to level 4+. 207 at level 5 and 201 at level 4 with 207 million SP.
P.S If i'm not mistaken, "Black Market Trading" is the only "character creation only" skill remaining of several. Since all the others got removed from characters who had them and deleted from the database during a database cleanup a couple years back. |

Erika Mizune
The Soul Society DeepSpace.
1841
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Posted - 2015.10.07 07:45:49 -
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Amateratsu wrote:Erika Mizune wrote:http://eveboard.com/pilot/Towaoc <-- That guy has all the skills injected, 409, you're missing the skill "Astronautic Engineering" - The skill book is still out there if you're willing to shell out the insane prices people are selling them for.  Myself I have 319, so I have a bit of ways to go, lol. :3 I have Astronautic Engineering, got it before it was discontinued. The extra skillbook that Towaoc has is "Black Market Trading" which was only availlable to certain races during character creation years ago and is unobtainable to anyone who did not get it at the time. I have now completed All availlable skills to level 4+. 207 at level 5 and 201 at level 4 with 207 million SP. P.S If i'm not mistaken, "Black Market Trading" is the only "character creation only" skill remaining of several. Since all the others got removed from characters who had them and deleted from the database during a database cleanup a couple years back.
I missed that one o.O Damn, interesting then, still learning something new every day, lol. What was the black market trading skill even for?
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Erika Mizune
The Soul Society DeepSpace.
1841
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Posted - 2015.10.07 07:52:18 -
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http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=3445 Eve-Wiki didn't help me, but I found it here, interesting o.O
"Skill at forging cargo manifests and disguising contraband cargo. From a base of 90%, each level of skill reduces chance of contraband detection by 10%."
Seems like a fun skill to have, tho from what I also see that skill trait is bugged XD Special contraband smuggler skill :3 I soooo would want this skill ...
DJ Yumene of Eve Radio | My Blog | Sounds of New Eden | Eve Radio
My Insane Quest: Obtain Every BPO Ingame
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
78
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Posted - 2015.10.07 11:58:32 -
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Erika Mizune wrote:http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=3445 Eve-Wiki didn't help me, but I found it here, interesting o.O
"Skill at forging cargo manifests and disguising contraband cargo. From a base of 90%, each level of skill reduces chance of contraband detection by 10%."
Seems like a fun skill to have, tho from what I also see that skill trait is bugged XD Special contraband smuggler skill :3 I soooo would want this skill ...
Yeah, Like many other skills still in game that have not been implemented and serve no function, other than as collectors items for completionists like myself
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Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
34504
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Posted - 2015.10.07 18:24:12 -
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Amateratsu wrote:Erika Mizune wrote:http://eveboard.com/pilot/Towaoc <-- That guy has all the skills injected, 409, you're missing the skill "Astronautic Engineering" - The skill book is still out there if you're willing to shell out the insane prices people are selling them for.  Myself I have 319, so I have a bit of ways to go, lol. :3 I have Astronautic Engineering, got it before it was discontinued. The extra skillbook that Towaoc has is "Black Market Trading" which was only availlable to certain races during character creation years ago and is unobtainable to anyone who did not get it at the time. I have now completed All availlable skills to level 4+. 207 at level 5 and 201 at level 4 with 207 million SP. P.S If i'm not mistaken, "Black Market Trading" is the only "character creation only" skill remaining of several. Since all the others got removed from characters who had them and deleted from the database during a database cleanup a couple years back.
But you don't have it.
Why do bad threads happen to good people?
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Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
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Posted - 2015.10.07 19:00:49 -
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Ria Nieyli wrote:
But you don't have it.
I can assure you I do.
Dunno what site your using to view my skills, but what ever site it is, it is wrong. Astronautic Engineering IS listed in my skillsheet on EveBoard, EveMon and ingame. |

Dr Caymus
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
103
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Posted - 2015.10.08 00:28:24 -
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Amateratsu wrote: P.S If i'm not mistaken, "Black Market Trading" is the only "character creation only" skill remaining of several. Since all the others got removed from characters who had them and deleted from the database during a database cleanup a couple years back.
There were two other "creation only" skills: Genetic Engineering (which I had and, sadly, lost) and Mnemonics. These two were removed in the Crucible expansion in late 2011. I suspect that the Black Market Trading skill was retained because it was thought at the time that it might be implemented at some point in the future, whereas the other two were not seen in any future implementation plans.
Read more about Black Market, other rare skills and the old character creation system here. |

Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
81
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Posted - 2015.10.08 10:02:55 -
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"Out of the 6.7M players currently being tracked by EveBoard, only 143 characters have the Astronautic Engineering skill GÇö bragging rights, indeed!"
I find that quite surprising, concidering the skill was seeded on the market for many years, even tho there were no research agents that required it. Before the devs finally unseeded it from the market.
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Dr Caymus
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
103
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Posted - 2015.10.09 20:56:44 -
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Agree, the A.E. skill count sounds way too low. Interesting article, but there are a couple of inaccuracies in it. Black Market Trading, for example, was available to several character creation profiles, Caldari/Deteis and Gallente/Gallente to name a couple, in addition to the Minmatar/Vherokior build mentioned by the author. |

Towaoc
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
17
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Posted - 2015.10.22 16:57:09 -
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... and I'll be joining this esteemed group in a couple of days. Seventy nine L3 skills are staged to make the move! |
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