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Niaal
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Posted - 2006.12.01 23:48:00 -
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Edited by: Niaal on 02/12/2006 00:10:00
Just thought I'd drop a hint for those of you that are a bit slow to catch on.
Yup, gate camping works, but kali brought something better; with a tiny skill investment you can now pinpoint a mission runner in 5-10 min. With good skills you only need 1-2.
Level 3-4 missions take 30 min to several hours, and the carebears take a standing hit if they don't finish the mission, so there's ample opportunity for an ambush should they manage to warp out.
There's also lots of fun to be had with high sec mission runners, I'll leave that one for you to figure out.
pros/cons:
+Zero risk. You're pvp fitted and know what tank the other guy has. You could also just jump off if you need to, a pve setup doesn't have a scrambler. Plus the fact they're tanking a crapload of npc's, of course..
+Faction fitted ravens.
-Most mission runners left low sec before kali hit. Those who didn't aleady are leaving now, so that gate camp may work out better after all.
...why are you still reading this, get grieving already?!
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.12.02 00:58:00 -
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You guys hunt Miners untill they all flee lowsec then cry about the belts being empty.
You camp gates till people would rather go 15 extra jumps than risk getting instapoped and then Cry that there is not enough trafic through lowsec
Now lets see if we can figure out what will happen to the mission runners.. hmmm
hope you guys are ready to be forced to feed exclusivly of eachother
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Speed Devil
Caldari
Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2006.12.02 01:19:00 -
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 id say make whole empire lowsec with anything less than lvl 3 quality 0 in empire and everything higher than lvl 3 qualty 0 in 0.0
only empire should be the systems where newbies start with a few surrounding systems.
much less chokepoints of lowsec to 0.0
this would be the solution, pvpers and npcers would work more together, transport ships would have the support wich they need, market hubs would get protected by the players etc...
there would be less probing out, people would go more for the rats etc,...
oh well, that dream is far away and ccp will never dare to take this step, eve became carebearonline
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Thomas Maleficus
Caldari
Monkeys With Syphilis
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Posted - 2006.12.02 01:21:00 -
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Oh? and what are you going to do to high sec mission runners? Steal their non-existent loot cans? Shoot their mission rats? good luck with that.
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Elphaba
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.12.02 01:29:00 -
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 Originally by: Thomas Maleficus
Oh? and what are you going to do to high sec mission runners? Steal their non-existent loot cans? Shoot their mission rats? good luck with that.
yup. perfectly safe.
Just keep doing what you're doing. Everything will be ok )
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Gamesguy
Amarr
Reunited
O X I D E
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Posted - 2006.12.02 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: Xaildaine
You guys hunt Miners untill they all flee lowsec then cry about the belts being empty.
You camp gates till people would rather go 15 extra jumps than risk getting instapoped and then Cry that there is not enough trafic through lowsec
Now lets see if we can figure out what will happen to the mission runners.. hmmm
hope you guys are ready to be forced to feed exclusivly of eachother
Hey how about instead of posting an idiotic OP with your alt and then replying with another one, you shutup and learn to adapt?
There are lots of methods to avoid getting killed on missions, use your ******* brain.
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Speed Devil
Caldari
Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2006.12.02 01:40:00 -
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well another solution might be...
pirates get ur sec status up, move to highsec and probe those carebears down, get into their deadspace, steal their cans, and give remote shield and armortransfer the strongest rats till u **** those carebears off because they lose their standings or bonuses. maybe then they will move back to lowsec or quit the game with alot of whining on the forums. or they will shoot u (if u took their cans) and u can blow em up :)
and i bet that will make u feel good too 
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Merchantigus
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Posted - 2006.12.02 01:41:00 -
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"You guys hunt Miners untill they all flee lowsec then cry about the belts being empty.
You camp gates till people would rather go 15 extra jumps than risk getting instapoped and then Cry that there is not enough trafic through lowsec
Now lets see if we can figure out what will happen to the mission runners"
Whawhawhawah 
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
MAFIA
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.02 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: Merchantigus
"You guys hunt Miners untill they all flee lowsec then cry about the belts being empty.
You camp gates till people would rather go 15 extra jumps than risk getting instapoped and then Cry that there is not enough trafic through lowsec
Now lets see if we can figure out what will happen to the mission runners"
Whawhawhawah
Yes soon every one will become a pirate and then we will attack jita and destroy the caladari state 
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.12.02 01:53:00 -
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Edited by: Xaildaine on 02/12/2006 01:56:49
Originally by: Gamesguy
Originally by: Xaildaine
You guys hunt Miners untill they all flee lowsec then cry about the belts being empty.
You camp gates till people would rather go 15 extra jumps than risk getting instapoped and then Cry that there is not enough trafic through lowsec
Now lets see if we can figure out what will happen to the mission runners.. hmmm
hope you guys are ready to be forced to feed exclusivly of eachother
Hey how about instead of posting an idiotic OP with your alt and then replying with another one, you shutup and learn to adapt?
There are lots of methods to avoid getting killed on missions, use your ******* brain.
Dude i have no idea who the OP is
but then again i have no idea who you are either.. maybe im your alt.
Though i would love for you to comment on my post about Pirates actions having an impact on lowsec populations i can see that the most i would get from you is "STFU newb omg!!!1!1"
And as far as Getting players to Lowsec its not gona happen by nerfing Highsec.
People of a non PvP leaning would more likely just quit.
You get people into low sec by making it less secure than highsec and more secure than nosec.
I know it would be hard for Pirates to swallow but the fact remains that at the moment its safer in No secuity space than in low security. Prating in Lowsec should be posable but very risky via game mechanics.
Only those with the skill to Pirate up to 0.4 it should be able to do it, not the mindless bulk of Gankbears.
then .4 becomes a small risk increase for production minded corps and they move in. Makeing the Pirates with the skill to be able to fish these waters much better Profits.
The nobrain Gankbears who wish to camp gates and such should be forced to do this in 0.0 up to 0.2
The rewards of living in Lowsec are there.. its just the risk is to high.
hell id like for Pirates to be able to work o.5 all the way to 0.9 systems as long as the skill required and the risks involved were balanced. iE only the best of the best.
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.02 02:06:00 -
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If I weren't so lazy, I'd fit out a HAC for tackling and tanking, bring three friends with cloaks and sit inside a mission, waiting for a "pirate" to spawn.
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Gindar
Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom
iPOD Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.02 02:13:00 -
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moving back on topic...
yes mission runners will leave lowsec. some will even unequip faction mods while in highsec and sell them (atm some  's are lamenting on how difficult the contracts system is to use while trying to do this, check missions forum for some  's)
others will have b4lls and stay in a quiet lowsec area, watching local, and making as much isk as possible to be able to replace the ship+mods if some ebils decide to say hello.
as has been said...
this social phenomenon has already taken place in placid. the bears will do missions and go into gank mode when a pirate comes in local. or they will all dock until you go away, or the anti's come to the rescue (the carebear cavalry lol).
same thing will happen in 0.9. anti's will defend each other. pirate corps will come in with bigger gangs. sometimes the anti's win, usually the pie's outsmart them or come with more firepower and blow away all the mission runners they can before everyone docks.
if the pie's come often enough, either the anti's will start living in the system or nearby system. or the bear's will flee in terror for another mission hub. pie's having no targets, will move on.
for pie's who cannot enter lowsec it will suck. targets will be fewer and farer in between. great ebil's who have come before me have already pointed this out. it will always be like this.
when lowsec gets too dead, pie groups will migrate to a different region, either lowsec or even 0.0. for example, s******dly has been roaming curse for easy targets, as has murder of crows.
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.12.02 02:14:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
If I weren't so lazy, I'd fit out a HAC for tackling and tanking, bring three friends with cloaks and sit inside a mission, waiting for a "pirate" to spawn.
generaly their bountys arent worth the wait
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Michayel Lyon
The Corporation
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Posted - 2006.12.02 05:23:00 -
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Originally by: Xaildaine
generaly their bountys arent worth the wait
Because if it was, he'd jump into a jumpclone without implants and have his alt pod him already... But that's another discussion entirely.
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Gonada
Gallente
Cross Roads
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Posted - 2006.12.02 05:26:00 -
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Originally by: Niaal
Edited by: Niaal on 02/12/2006 00:10:00
Just thought I'd drop a hint for those of you that are a bit slow to catch on.
Yup, gate camping works, but kali brought something better; with a tiny skill investment you can now pinpoint a mission runner in 5-10 min. With good skills you only need 1-2.
Level 3-4 missions take 30 min to several hours, and the carebears take a standing hit if they don't finish the mission, so there's ample opportunity for an ambush should they manage to warp out.
There's also lots of fun to be had with high sec mission runners, I'll leave that one for you to figure out.
pros/cons:
+Zero risk. You're pvp fitted and know what tank the other guy has. You could also just jump off if you need to, a pve setup doesn't have a scrambler. Plus the fact they're tanking a crapload of npc's, of course..
+Faction fitted ravens.
-Most mission runners left low sec before kali hit. Those who didn't aleady are leaving now, so that gate camp may work out better after all.
...why are you still reading this, get grieving already?!
only problem with this is that you seem to think misson runners are stupid. Please continue to believe that. I ALWAYS fit a 2 str scram when doing missons in lowsec just in case some noob pirate warps in.
especially funny when you do the furthest npc spawns first and the pirates warp in, get aggro/web'd from the npc's, then you scramble them back, or even get scrambled as well by the npc's.
to a good misson runner, your just another mob to be blown up and looted.
better stick to gatecamps and miners, youll live longer.
-I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
-nerf Missles-
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Nasair
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Posted - 2006.12.02 05:37:00 -
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You also act like they will just let you sit in system or even rove around these areas, you'll be hung out to dry in no time ^^.
I just want to see the noob pirate who warps into a lvl 4 mission and gets ganked by NPCs, mostly because then I loot them
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Thomas Maleficus
Caldari
Monkeys With Syphilis
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Posted - 2006.12.02 05:52:00 -
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get into their deadspace, steal their cans
Oh man thought I'd never stop laughing, you're more than welcome to come into my mission spawns and steal my cans. As I like to say "Gathering loot is like picking your arse, you rarely find anything good and the rest is all crap". I haven't gathered loot cans since I was a 2 month noob. Good luck with that. As for remote repping the rats?? well all I can say is we'll see, can't say if it will work or won't work yet but you're welcome to try, if you'd like contact me in game and I'll let you find my mission and you can try your theory and see if it works. See I'm not an all good carebear, I'll let you piratey types test your theories. Though somthing like remote repping the rats might get addressed by ccp but it's hard to say really.
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Uthar
Caldari
SEGnet
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Posted - 2006.12.02 05:55:00 -
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Originally by: Gonada
to a good misson runner, your just another mob to be blown up and looted.
better stick to gatecamps and miners, youll live longer.
like that :)
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Epoch
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Posted - 2006.12.02 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Speed Devil
well another solution might be...
pirates get ur sec status up, move to highsec and probe those carebears down, get into their deadspace, steal their cans, and give remote shield and armortransfer the strongest rats till u **** those carebears off because they lose their standings or bonuses. maybe then they will move back to lowsec or quit the game with alot of whining on the forums. or they will shoot u (if u took their cans) and u can blow em up :)
and i bet that will make u feel good too
i see four replies from *carebears* welcoming you. how bout you stop swinging your little **** and follow through.
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Speed Devil
Caldari
Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2006.12.02 12:29:00 -
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hey, i was only giving ideas, no need to be ****ed at me
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Smagd
Encina Technologies
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.12.02 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
If I weren't so lazy, I'd fit out a HAC for tackling and tanking, bring three friends with cloaks and sit inside a mission, waiting for a "pirate" to spawn.
Use a Raven for bait: Apparently it's a lot faster to scan for battleships, and everybody knows Ravens are full of faction stuff and completely harmless to pirates.
With a bit of luck the pirate will drop nice loot, too, since he's expecting an easy job.
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solidshot
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.12.02 12:57:00 -
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Been playing with probes in empire looking for drones, and numerous times i have warped to a set of drones found by the probe and been taken to a mission warp gate
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dennyreborn
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Posted - 2006.12.02 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Xaildaine
You guys hunt Miners untill they all flee lowsec then cry about the belts being empty.
You camp gates till people would rather go 15 extra jumps than risk getting instapoped and then Cry that there is not enough trafic through lowsec
Now lets see if we can figure out what will happen to the mission runners.. hmmm
hope you guys are ready to be forced to feed exclusivly of eachother
hippies make police who make hippies who make police.
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slothe
Caldari
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.02 14:04:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
If I weren't so lazy, I'd fit out a HAC for tackling and tanking, bring three friends with cloaks and sit inside a mission, waiting for a "pirate" to spawn.
thats the spirit.
i used to be able to track mission runners down pre-kali in 20 mins. now there all leaving:/
tbh if this change forces mission runners to leave lowsec they didnt deserve to be there in the first place. bye bye o/
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Tarnish Katharr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.12.02 16:16:00 -
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Edited by: Tarnish Katharr on 02/12/2006 16:23:26
I can confirm that this works pretty good. Sausage Smuggling Syndicate blew the **** out of my apoc yesterday. Saw the probe on scanner and when I closed the window a Rapier was tackling me. Then his buddies in an Apoc and Hurricane arrived. This is gonna be good sport for pirates. Gotta get in on this, if the loot I dropped is any indication of what other mission runners drop.
Or maybe have a few of my friends in Recon sitting near the warp in.
Edit: Training Astrometrics V now
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Niaal
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Posted - 2006.12.03 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: Gonada
only problem with this is that you seem to think misson runners are stupid. Please continue to believe that. I ALWAYS fit a 2 str scram when doing missons in lowsec just in case some noob pirate warps in.
especially funny when you do the furthest npc spawns first and the pirates warp in, get aggro/web'd from the npc's, then you scramble them back, or even get scrambled as well by the npc's.
to a good misson runner, your just another mob to be blown up and looted.
better stick to gatecamps and miners, youll live longer.
Gimping your setup for a tiny shot at against a clueless noob certainly doesn't sound very clever..
We all know that a ship fitted for the job would tear the mission runner a new one, so I can't help but wonder what you're trying to accomplish here. Just passing time by talking smack at on the forums, or are you really that full of yourself?
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Gonada
Gallente
Cross Roads
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Posted - 2006.12.03 04:57:00 -
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Edited by: Gonada on 03/12/2006 04:58:38
Originally by: Niaal
Originally by: Gonada
only problem with this is that you seem to think misson runners are stupid. Please continue to believe that. I ALWAYS fit a 2 str scram when doing missons in lowsec just in case some noob pirate warps in.
especially funny when you do the furthest npc spawns first and the pirates warp in, get aggro/web'd from the npc's, then you scramble them back, or even get scrambled as well by the npc's.
to a good misson runner, your just another mob to be blown up and looted.
better stick to gatecamps and miners, youll live longer.
Gimping your setup for a tiny shot at against a clueless noob certainly doesn't sound very clever..
We all know that a ship fitted for the job would tear the mission runner a new one, so I can't help but wonder what you're trying to accomplish here. Just passing time by talking smack at on the forums, or are you really that full of yourself?
guess i am, i fly a full faction modded armor tanked macherial to do lvl 4's with, and can afford to loose one med slot to a scram.
As for talkin smack. ya i am, cause frankly if you guys are too lame to actually do real combat and instead have to resort to whining bout moving missons to lowsec, gatecamping, or now the "misson runner" ganking then you suck at eve, and only can kill those that are in the weaker position..
continue to believe what you wish, not all misson runners are sheep you know, and the fact that ive been jumped mid mission a few times and survived quite handily led me to post the origional rebuttal.
PS. i live in lowsec too.
-I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
-nerf Missles-
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slothe
Caldari
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.03 05:01:00 -
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Originally by: Gonada
guess i am, i fly a full faction modded armor tanked macherial to do lvl 4's with, and can afford to loose one med slot to a scram.
PS. i live in lowsec too.
if this post is serious you truly have shown yourself to be dumb.
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Gonada
Gallente
Cross Roads
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Posted - 2006.12.03 05:11:00 -
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lol whats dumb is your post sloth, case of jelousey?
-I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
-nerf Missles-
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Gonada
Gallente
Cross Roads
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Posted - 2006.12.03 05:20:00 -
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Edited by: Gonada on 03/12/2006 05:21:26
the dumb part is that you post in a thread about mission piracy, and admit that you fly a faction fitted macheriel to do your missions in lowsec , and even mention part of your setup.
plus in another thread you call lowsec pirates griefers.
do you not realise how stupid this is if true?
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a: first 10 seconds of any engagement youll know how the other guy is setup by the reaction of his ship if you are smart.
b: lowsec pirates for the most part are griefers, everyone knows it, why hide that fact? i know it , you know it.
c: i dont care about wether anyone knows what i use or dont. its a game, if you think oyur tough enough to gank me, go for it man, all the power to ya, if ya win, good on you, if i loose too bad for me, no whining.
cause in the end, its just a game to pass the time by till something better comes along, like UO, EQ, daoc, SWG was, and in each i played the game for fun, for pvp, for enjoyment.
gnight
-I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
-nerf Missles-
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slothe
Caldari
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.03 05:27:00 -
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Edited by: slothe on 03/12/2006 05:34:26
i agree with a lot of what you say.
i dont think lowsec pirates are griefers though as anyone going into lowsec especially mission runners knows (or should know) they take a risk of being attacked, and therefore implicitly accept they could be targets for pirates.
a griefer imho is someone who attacks people who dont accept taking a risk. these are the pirates who team up with people in highsec and use game mechanics to kill them. i personally dont like that game style as those players dont accept any risk.Also their people who war dec noob corps, another tactic i dislike (in fact ive helped corps who have had this happen in the past).
oh and 2 things to assist you (to watch out for).
mission pirates dont find out someones setup within 10 seconds of attack.
they either scan someones setup outside a station (without the target knowing) when there on the way to a mission (so watch out for frigs hanging around outside station).
or they can scan a ship by the mission and see what the mission is. e.g. i scan you at a mission site. i see your doing guristas extrvavaganza. this means you will be using phased plasma ammo (maybe kin missiles) so i tank for kin / therm. I also know you will be tanked for kin / therm, and since your armour tanking you have high natural em resist. i will therefore use explosive missiles.
i will obviously use at least 2 disruptors as you armour tank your unlikely to have 2 stabs plus ill use nosferatu to bleed you dry.
so thats what you need to be careful of. good luck out there (you dont need to worry about me btw). 
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Santiago Cortes
Caldari
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.12.03 06:11:00 -
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*Cleaned*
Please keep the flaming to a minimum.
forum rules |
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d026
Herrscher der Zeit
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Posted - 2006.12.03 12:24:00 -
[33]
Edited by: d026 on 03/12/2006 12:26:05
Quote:
i dont think lowsec pirates are griefers though as anyone going into lowsec especially mission runners knows (or should know) they take a risk of being attacked, and therefore implicitly accept they could be targets for pirates.
i think lowsec missionrunner probing pirates are griefers not able to handle real pvp where the odds can somethimes turn against you. im always to have for a goot fight, i even fight back somethimes while stuck in a bubble. but i def have no need tanking 900 dps from a mordus headhunters and 1000 dps from this gank squad at the same time..
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slothe
Caldari
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.03 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: d026
i think lowsec missionrunner probing pirates are griefers not able to handle real pvp where ....
....i def have no need tanking 900 dps from a mordus headhunters and 1000 dps from this gank squad at the same time..
according to dictionary.com
"Griefer is the term for a player in an online computer game who deliberately sets out to discomfort other players. A griefer is a kind of troll. "
If you go into lowsec YOU ACCEPT THE RISK OF PVP. Therefore pirates in lowsec are NOT griefers. Your definition of griefer seems to include anyone that pvp's and kills someone.
If you dont want to fight your npc rats and pirates then stay out of lowsec.
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d026
Herrscher der Zeit
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Posted - 2006.12.03 13:23:00 -
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Quote:
If you dont want to fight your npc rats and pirates then stay out of lowsec.
i constantly fight. but like a real man not like a ***** who needs npcs doing YOUR work!
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d026
Herrscher der Zeit
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Posted - 2006.12.03 13:29:00 -
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and if you allready ask my definition of pvp is PLAYER VS PLAYER not player vs player vs npcs:)
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slothe
Caldari
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.03 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: d026
i constantly fight. but like a real man not like a ***** who needs npcs doing YOUR work!
dude your being insulting now.
but lets be realistic about this.
npcing and missioning is not hard, in fact its easy. even the hardest mission is easy with the right tactics. its formulaic, you know whats going to happen time and time again.
but pvp is where the real action is. clearly you cant handle it. so im seriously saying, for your benefit, not mine. stay out of lowsec.
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Arntdec
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Posted - 2006.12.03 14:32:00 -
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Put aside the carebears/griefers debate.
Put aside low sec population.
Back to ISKs.
Standing with an agent factors ISK gains. The way standing works, failing/declining a mission takes a long time to work back your standing on, wich means an ISK loss.
Not doing a mission, because you are waiting for the system to clear, is an ISK loss.
Obviously loosing a ship is an ISK loss in insurance and modules, but also in time not spent farming but refitting.
I think everyone can agree that under the new system, mission running as an activity has taken a profitability hit by standings, lost time and pure loss.
When you live in low sec you agree to take some risks. But you have to do the math, you have to make ISKs to sustain yourself, and make a profit.
I have no problem with being killed once a day, being ransomed once every two days, forced in waiting time one hour for four hours of activity, having to abort one mission in ten. Those are the numbers I calculated upon, and even if you can argue about their accuracy, I think it can be a 'normal week' in the
life of a mission runner nowadays.
But, even after turning the problem in every way I could think of, I came, much to my surprise, to this conclusion : farming lvl 3 missions (fit tailored for it) in high sec is more profitable.
The question, taking those new costs into factor, is to know if by adapting I can find a situation where I'll run a benefit instead of a deficit.
Lower ship/fits cost? Better, but still in deficit. Dual account mule watcher? ETC comes in, lower risk, still deficit. Gangs? deficit. PvP fittings? deficit. Two/Four accounts and switching when one runner is in waiting scenario? Deficit. Paying a 'right to live here' tax to pirates? Not sure about the price I put this at, but I felt it would still not lower the risk cost enought, as pirates can't enforce their authority as strongly as alliances do, so it translates as still running a deficit.
The problem is that the costs have skyrocketed into orbit ! To a point where nothing I could think of can be bring me afloat again.
Go on with your 'carebear/griefer' 'it's not fait/you are a whiner' etc... Personnaly I can only tell one thing:
I WILL NOT RUN BANKRUPT !
As such, I have taken the only logical decision, and moved away from low sec missioning.
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d026
Herrscher der Zeit
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Posted - 2006.12.03 18:23:00 -
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Quote:
npcing and missioning is not hard, in fact its easy.
ok mate lets try this out.. you gonna do worlds collide serpentis stage, i warp in with some buddys and give you some extra pounding and then we talk again k?
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B0rn2KiLL
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2006.12.04 00:09:00 -
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probe`m, nos`m, kill`m.
kill`m some more.
dont ***** bout people doing god's work.
keep up the good ganking men 
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Grim Starwind
Exotic Dancers Club
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Posted - 2006.12.04 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: Gonada
Edited by: Gonada on 03/12/2006 04:58:38
As for talkin smack. ya i am, cause frankly if you guys are too lame to actually do real combat and instead have to resort to whining bout moving missons to lowsec, gatecamping, or now the "misson runner" ganking then you suck at eve, and only can kill those that are in the weaker position
Okay, thing that got me here that I just had to post on. "you suck at eve, and only can kill those that are in the weaker position" ... Dude, how many people do you know have killed someone stronger than them? Because it's impossible. The only time you kill someone is when they are weaker than you.
PS.. I don't care about mission runners so I have no comment on that, I just came here to read what everyone was saying about that whole scan stuff. 
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2006.12.04 03:54:00 -
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Originally by: Grim Starwind
The only time you kill someone is when they are weaker than you.
You can kill someone who's stronger than you if they're stupid. Haven't you ever heard of the word 'upset' being used to describe a victory?
Such as UCLA upsetting USC on saturday.
Originally by: kieron
The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Flinx Evenstar
Momentum.
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Posted - 2006.12.04 04:25:00 -
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Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 04/12/2006 04:25:30
Originally by: slothe
but pvp is where the real action is. clearly you cant handle it. so im seriously saying, for your benefit, not mine. stay out of lowsec.
Dam right baby
If your any good at pvp...you dont run missions. Little old me can make 100mil an hour from T2 fitted mission *****s on a good day  Hunting mission runners is like farming T2 rats 
wh ore s is bound to get censored 
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Princess Porno
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Posted - 2006.12.04 06:58:00 -
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I think people are missing out on something entirely new...
MOTHERSHIP PIRACY.
In low-sec, wtf is going to stop you?
You can't be affected by ewar.
Can't be web/scram'd -interdiction spheres can't be dropped in low-sec.
Not much can tank 22 fighters.
Fit a cloak and sit as a SS until flag expires because they can't probe out cloaked ships.
Cyno alt is needed to get you in and out when you get bored.
This might take you 300+ days and billions of isk ...
YEAH, WT! Mothership piracy in low-sec... TITAN PIRACY NEXT. CCP, get these ****'n ships to 0.0 only. 
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Miss Overlord
Gallente
Ferrum Pugnus
New Eve Order
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Posted - 2006.12.04 09:28:00 -
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Originally by: Speed Devil
well another solution might be...
pirates get ur sec status up, move to highsec and probe those carebears down, get into their deadspace, steal their cans, and give remote shield and armortransfer the strongest rats till u **** those carebears off because they lose their standings or bonuses. maybe then they will move back to lowsec or quit the game with alot of whining on the forums. or they will shoot u (if u took their cans) and u can blow em up :)
and i bet that will make u feel good too
sounds like a plausible plan - PVE content is next to useless anyway
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vile56
Nubs.
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.04 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: d026
Quote:
npcing and missioning is not hard, in fact its easy.
ok mate lets try this out.. you gonna do worlds collide serpentis stage, i warp in with some buddys and give you some extra pounding and then we talk again k?
so, you agree that the mission alone is not hard, only after more firepower has arived it is hard.
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d026
Herrscher der Zeit
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Posted - 2006.12.04 12:28:00 -
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if you fly a 4bil ship its not hard i agree. but wc is damn callanging while doing it in a tII raven (usualy after the first spawn i was down to 1/3 cap, 1/3 shields left) i dont see ANY possibility to take on another or even several player ships at the same time while allready getting such a extreme pounding from npcs. right now the game mechanics are all 10000% in favor of the hostile engaging and this is not right.
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Euphoria Released
Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.12.04 12:34:00 -
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Edited by: Ishquar Teh''Sainte on 04/12/2006 12:36:07
Originally by: vile56
Originally by: d026
Quote:
npcing and missioning is not hard, in fact its easy.
ok mate lets try this out.. you gonna do worlds collide serpentis stage, i warp in with some buddys and give you some extra pounding and then we talk again k?
so, you agree that the mission alone is not hard, only after more firepower has arived it is hard.
uhm .. only one thing - 0.0 NPCs .. are not much of a problem if you're hunting with a battleship.
all it needs to lose a BS to a ganksquad is: one or two tacklers and a damagedealer (most of the time it's more than one damagedealer). yeah - it takes some time to down a target. as long the target is nicely tackled i will go down in 99% of the cases without killing one of the attackers. and that happens even with only or no npc in the belt (not really difficult you'd say)
i bet in a lvl4 mission are much more ships than the odd triple BS spawn
the only real difference (from a pirate perspective) now between 0.0 npcing and lowsec missionrunning is - in the second case they don't need 40 seconds + scanprobes to land on top of you.
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d026
Herrscher der Zeit
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Posted - 2006.12.04 13:01:00 -
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i never ever losta ship in 0.0 due to a ganksquad. (i flew into several bubbles thought). just check local and if hostiles arrive warp to safe.. always worked like a charm for me.. but that aint possible in lowsec (always hostiles in system) also you are allready scrambled/webbed by npcs. (well also i 0,0 there are scrambler frigs but only 1-2 of them who pop also faster than the lvl 4 mission scramblers soemhow:)
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