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DarkElf Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts	Posted - 2006.12.06 11:27:00 - [1] Originally by: Kagura Nikon ECM is now quite well balanced. It is weak in non ecm sships and as strong in ECM ships as it was on non ecm ships before patch. More than that it would continue broken. A scorpion should not be able to fight aloen against 3 other BS and win because it can keep then jammed forever. EWar is an auxiliar support role.. not a main battle role. SDo no SOLO EWAR SHIPS. And that is great! Did you even read the OP? or anyone else's comments? I'm thinking they've broken ecm atm cos ppl have been trying to jam me and not managed it once. it's fantastic DOWN WITH ECM Yarrrrrrr! DE
DarkElf Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts	Posted - 2006.12.06 11:57:00 - [2] Originally by: Alchimista Originally by: Kagura Nikon ECM is now quite well balanced. It is weak in non ecm sships and as strong in ECM ships as it was on non ecm ships before patch. More than that it would continue broken. A scorpion should not be able to fight aloen against 3 other BS and win because it can keep then jammed forever. EWar is an auxiliar support role.. not a main battle role. SDo no SOLO EWAR SHIPS. And that is great! Pigs will fly when a Scorpion will solo win against 3 other BS. Anyways still comments from NO-ECM pilots = useless isn't that exactly what he just said? scorp can't solo 3 bs because it's a support ship. u just argued with him but made the same point lol. and also not the point whether it can solo or not. the point is ppl are saying it's ecm effectiveness is not what it should be, ie the system is bugged. DE
DarkElf Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts	Posted - 2006.12.06 12:38:00 - [3] Originally by: NIkis since the modules been so severely penalized, i would have expected an increase in bonus on dedicated EW ships i thought they did get a bonus boost didn't they? DE
DarkElf Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts	Posted - 2006.12.09 10:23:00 - [4] now it's like russian rouleEVE Online \| EVE Insider \| Forums
DarkElf Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts	Posted - 2006.12.09 10:23:00 - [5] now it's like russian roulette with a cap gun? what u mean if it goes bad u just get a little mark instead of dying? think u got the analogy mixed up there. stop ur bithcing ecm *****s. rook can still perma jam a bs. i have flown ecm ships for a very long time and have fought them in none ecm ships for a long time. and tbh all the ppl saying all my expensive ecm ships and skillpoints are useless are annoying. big deal, so sell the ships and train something else up. it's not like ppl actually have like 10mil sp in ecm related skills, there aren't that many of them. I trained many sp in amarr bs for solo combat long long ago. it became crappy so i trained somehting else. join the big boys now and use a tank and actually get shot in battles. DE
DarkElf Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts	Posted - 2006.12.09 13:47:00 - [6] Edited by: DarkElf on 09/12/2006 13:48:29 Originally by: TDX Originally by: DarkElf now it's like russian roulette with a cap gun? what u mean if it goes bad u just get a little mark instead of dying? think u got the analogy mixed up there. stop ur bithcing ecm *****s. rook can still perma jam a bs. i have flown ecm ships for a very long time and have fought them in none ecm ships for a long time. and tbh all the ppl saying all my expensive ecm ships and skillpoints are useless are annoying. big deal, so sell the ships and train something else up. it's not like ppl actually have like 10mil sp in ecm related skills, there aren't that many of them. I trained many sp in amarr bs for solo combat long long ago. it became crappy so i trained somehting else. join the big boys now and use a tank and actually get shot in battles. DE Why should the people who spent all there time on training these particular skills have to change there ways? Due to it all being screwed up? Your saying that cause you have a totally different way of skills and so on, i bet if they nerfed your setup, you'd be the first to complain. And if you dont like it "sell the ships and train something else up" but that wont happen now will it? So you can stay nice and warm and know your ok. So shut up please and move on to next troff wow. i love getting smack talk on forums. you are a big man. did u even read what i said? guess not. let me repeat i used to use amarr bs all the time until they got major nerfage so u know what i did? i changed. re trained gallente which are good atm. some day they'll get nerfed so i'll train whatevers good at the time. mmorgg change all the time and u have to adapt. also try not being quite as abusive next time u want to talk. DE EDIT - and if ur gonna talk tough at least post with ur main
DarkElf Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts	Posted - 2006.12.14 14:57:00 - [7] Edited by: DarkElf on 14/12/2006 15:00:49 ECM is overpowered. nerf it! just fill ur lows with sig amps multis are really powerful scorps are a solopwnmobile now rooks can perma jam 10 battleships DarkElf dives under the table for cover DE
DarkElf Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts	Posted - 2006.12.17 12:43:00 - [8] Edited by: DarkElf on 17/12/2006 12:47:40 Originally by: DuPuy Or does it want a game wholly focussed about battleship versus battleship... At the moment it is clearly only a battleship v battleship game... That is such a load of bull. this game is in no way focussed on bs. in fect all the recons,hacs etc have very powerful weapons and can solo most bs in different ways. bs are being used less and less. yeah ecm does seem broken and no matter how happy it makes me, it does need sorting but don't exaggerate. DE
DarkElf Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts	Posted - 2006.12.17 14:17:00 - [9] just as a point for ppl to consider here. if you look at the optimal range for most ecm they are quite some range. if ur warping in at ur optimal jamming range which u should be (support ship remember) then how can most ships kill u really quickly as u say unless they're sniper fit which isn't all that common. u get a cheap ass blackbird at 100km jamming a blastertron or autopest or most ships for that matter and even if they miss a cycle then they don't even get hit while the dmg/tank ships kill the target. ppl have got used to being able to warp right on top of a target and scram and perma jam them and be safe. that's not how it's supposed to be. warp in at range like jammers are designed for and most of the time ur safe. DE
DarkElf Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts	Posted - 2006.12.17 15:11:00 - [10] Originally by: August Personage to the people complaining that scorps have no tank and dps: so what? they jam. if you want tanking and dps, go for the raven, it pwns, or the rokh, which pwns, or the drake, which pwns, or the cerberus, which pwns, or the crow, which pwns etc etc etc. catch my drift? to the people who will flame me for the above statement: yes, i do fly scorps. and no, i have no problem with them. yes i have read all the posts and yes this is an alt. to the guy who complained a few pages back that his friend got jammed by a non ecm ship but yet was complaining that ecm is imba, two words for you: probability based. perhaps if you didn't start every post you made with "LOL DID YOU READ MY OTHERPOSTS OMG YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T FLY ECM HSIPZ COS U NOW NOTHING" you would have seen the people saying that before me. if you have a problem with ecm being based upon probabilty, then say that instead of a random series of useless anecdotes which prove nothing, followed by "FIX ECM TUX". (also i now fit, 8 mids, that means 7 racials and 1 sensor booster. 4 lows, 2 sig amps a plate and a distortion amp. before kali, i fit the same, but with 1 extra plate. just incase you were wondering) you nhaven't even read this op have u? ppl aren't saying they want a tank on the scorp they are saying that they should be able to jam pretty well if they aren't going to have a tank and they are saying ships like the scorp aren't powerful enough in ecm to warrant no tank atm. DE

DarkElf Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts	Posted - 2006.12.17 16:27:00 - [11] Originally by: Dreez ECM on any ship that does not have ECMstrength bonus should be a waste of medslot. But ECM used on a ship build for EW, like scorpion or blackbird, should be suprTme. That way we wont get anymore Multispecc domis/ishtars, and the pilots which has trained for EW-specc will finally be usefull. that's exactly what has just been implemented. ecm's nerfed hugely and ecm ships bonus's increased. the problem being discussed here is that ecm ships have been nerfed which they shouldn't have been really. DE
DarkElf Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2006.12.19 19:57:00 - [12] Originally by: Spacehulk In response to a few of the above posts : Originally by: DarkElf ppl have got used to being able to warp right on top of a target and scram and perma jam them and be safe. that's not how it's supposed to be. warp in at range like jammers are designed for and most of the time ur safe. A jammer should not be close to a target. I never was unless they warp next to me. Remember we are support. you just repeated exactly what i said in case u didn't realise. my point was that jammers are a ranged weapon and they should be used at range because u are support and u can'tbe so easily killed by most ships if ur 80km out. DE
DarkElf Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts	Posted - 2006.12.28 14:15:00 - [13] ok i don't see the problem with ecm tbh guys. i just fought 2 scorps and a raven in my domi with twin conjunctive eccm on. Both scorp pilots were only about a year old and they still got quite a few cycles on me. i found out from their loot and killmails that they were only using multis. there is no way that they should jam me that much with multis if i'm sacrificing 2 of my mid slots to counter them. yes all 3 died but the fight took 9 dam minutes because i was jammed so much. i'm sure i'm gonna get attacked by ecm uses for saying this but it seemed pretty good still to me. ps they both had 4 hypnos sig amps in lows (which all 8 went frickin pop ) maybe that's what made them decent. DE

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