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Sugarbunny
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Posted - 2006.12.04 09:55:00 -
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I would rather return to warp_to_15 than let you carebears travel as fast as i do with your lazy autopilot ;)
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Sessho Seki
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Posted - 2006.12.04 11:44:00 -
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CCP actually gives us what many thought would never be, instantaneous jumping and docking, and all you have to do is precisely the same few clicks that instant bookmarks used to require.
This solves tons of problems, will make the game run far better in the long run, and helps eliminate the whole bookmark dilemma entirely.
But of course people want even more, some want auto pilot to dock for you too, others even want “round trips” programmable (why not ask CCP to just run the trade routes for you while you’re at it?).
There was a time when there was no autopilot! Be grateful that you have it in any form at all. If you want to warp to zero, you have it for basically every celestial object in the galaxy now! You have literally been given instant dock and instant jump “bookmarks” preprogrammed into the game for every station and star gate in the galaxy, and all some people can do is say “please sir, can I have some more?”.
[Engage Hyper Sarcasm Mode]
Just suffer through with the terrible burden of having to RIGHT CLICK and drag out to the desired location. I know it’s worthy of a trial in Nuremberg as a crime against humanity for such horrors to be pressed upon you, but we’re all having to suffer equally under the oppressive regime CCP has set up to give us easy means of transportation throughout the game galaxy but making people click their mouse a couple times to use that means is simply beyond unforgivable!
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Avera Mikou
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Posted - 2006.12.04 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Protunia
Originally by: Avera Mikou Okay, well maybe a fair compromise would be to have it still warp to 15km but at least turn on AB or MWD, whichever is present, for closing the gap to the station.
hehe yeah and I want auto gun firing, auto shields, auto.........
Well, there is a button called autopilot. Seems kind of obvious that when a ship flies, it should turn on its engines. There is not a button called "autotank" and so I'm not asking it to autotank, but if they give you something called autopilot, it might as well act like one.
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Seriya
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.12.04 14:45:00 -
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/signed
"Warp to 0" has obseleted autopilot. Why shouldn't I be able to browse the forums while travelling 30 jumps without having to flick back to the game every 15 seconds to do some tedious clicking.
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Captain Counterpart
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Posted - 2006.12.04 15:39:00 -
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no.
unbalaced.
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Seriya
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.12.04 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Counterpart no.
unbalaced.
That's not an arguement.
If there's a lack of balance it's in warp to 0. The autopilot simply removes tedium and unnecessary clicking.
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2006.12.04 16:31:00 -
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Thats right, why not just force CCP remove ALL TRAVEL? I mean who wants to travel? Who needs it? Lets make it so we can just use /teleport like the devs - and forget the whole WTZ and AP stuff? I mean, why should I bother to actually think and plan in this game, when CCP can hold my hand and give me everything I want at the click of a Slash/Command.
Thats was sarcasm.
WTZ the way it works now is a bloody godsend to most of EVE community. Those who want to travel AFK or Macro Trade Routes, can do it slower. Those who are activley participating can do it quicker.
Cheers.
P.S. Did I mention, NO to WTZ/AP stuff?
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Ansuru Starlancer
The Phoenix Rising Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.04 17:16:00 -
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Back in my EverQuest days, it was /zone burned woods, or /goto Ep33nDr3@dnite111 :p
Ahh, for the good old days of the /kill command bugging entire zones.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2006.12.05 05:05:00 -
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Originally by: Qutsemnie Edited by: Qutsemnie on 03/12/2006 21:43:18 I think its interesting "I dont use autopilot in 0.0" was brought up in the against the change column. Youve effectively said autopilot is useless to you in 0.0. Why shouldnt it be useful to you?
I mean they expend a great deal of thought trying to think get people to 0.0 and low sec, and here they have this thing that is substanatively different about life in 0.0 and highsec. Namely in 0.0 you have to travel by hand without a real option of an autopilot, and in empire you can be assisted in your travel by an autopilot.
Instead they seek and you seek to emphasis something that probably shouldnt be emphasised about eve.
But more than that isnt the penalty for using autopilot rather severe? I mean in 0.0 the penalty is death otherwise some people would use it. Death for using autopilot is a severe downside! You cant see how such a thing is an abandonment of the goals of autopilot?
Now someone said above that 0 distance jumping was never intended for the game and thats reason enough for it to be out of autopilot. But its in in a big way now! Just pretending it doesnt exist is going to result in somewhat adhoc seeming game play. It needs thorough integration.
Personally I wonder if it shouldnt have took a module to jump to 0 distance/ and or be a function of character gear and current equipment. You know real integration into the game system that would have allowed for autopilot instead of being treated as something for which you should be ashamed.
why do you not use autopilot in 0.0? let's see here... bubbles gate rats that can actually kill you The biggest thing is players, just becuase a gate was clear 5 mins ago does not mean it is clear now.
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mallina
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.05 05:29:00 -
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Originally by: Tarron Sarek I knew this would come up. Give them an inch and they will take a mile.
this represents my thoughts exactly.
EVE is being made too easy, tbh. I never agreed with WTZ in the first place and the Insta users before that were bad enough, but if CCP keep making things more easier for people eventually the game is just going to become unrealistic, lacking in diversity and generally dull and stale. ----------- Turbulance |

Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2006.12.05 05:43:00 -
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Warp to zero was inserted to replace instas, you never instajumped with autopilot on before did you? Guess what you're not now either, fly activelly and you're fine, AFK and Ginger Magician will get you.
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Petrothian Tong
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Posted - 2006.12.05 06:22:00 -
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errrm no...and I am saying this as a bear...
Warp to zero is to replace Instas,
which needs you to be at the comp to use.
OP, your analogy is flawed, since BOTH scenaro you mentioned requires the person to be attending the computer to use.
while with autopilot, you can set 20 jumps and Go off to watch T.V/spend time with your wife.
and STILL get there.
(try using the run key in other mmorpg afk...it wont work like autopilot would it?)
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Destania
Caldari Caldari Border Patrol
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:08:00 -
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I disagree to having autopilot warp to 0m. You want a safer route you can choose that by selecting only high sec systems. WOn't prevent the occasional pirate that takes the chance in highsec but thats far and few. If your doing autopilot then your probably doing something else other then playing the game and i think there should be risks involved in those cases. Plus, if you are doing something else then those few extra jumps in safe sec won't hurt your surf time by much if anything it will give you that little extra time to finish reading what ever your are :)
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