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My Lap
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.25 23:19:01 -
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I have and idea for a Hictor T2 script that would increase the mass of any ship in the bubble. Currently there is a issue with low risk combat/ travel interceptors, instant align T3 destroyers, and cloakly nullified T3s. Also the hictor gets very little use outside of tackling Super/Titans. I am against counter mechanics like having something that completely stops interdiction nullified hulls. A hictor bubble that adds mass to ships changes the way we will think about gate camps:
1. T2 Hictor script bubble should be used in Lowsec/ Nullsec systems. 2. Hictor should only be able to use one bubble at a time. 3. With mass increased inside the bubble decloakers will need to sit outside the bubble range to align properly thus increasing the skill cap for decloaking ships. 4. The purpose given by CCP to give interceptors interdiction nullification was to assist them in being able to move fast, intercept and tackle enemy targets. This change is still inline with that vision since it doesn't prevent the warp from happening. 5. This will give opportunity for players to catch T3 cloakly nullified T3s. |

Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.26 03:47:12 -
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My Lap wrote: I am against counter mechanics like having something that completely stops interdiction nullified hulls.
You do realize nullification IS a mechanic that completely stop bubbles from working right? |

My Lap
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.26 04:06:13 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:My Lap wrote: I am against counter mechanics like having something that completely stops interdiction nullified hulls. You do realize nullification IS a mechanic that completely stop bubbles from working right?
This wouldn't be a interdiction sphere/ warp field bubble. So nullified ships wouldn't be immune to it's affects |

Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2015.07.26 07:38:52 -
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A fitting multiple bubbles is an important part of a hic (normally two)
B the bubble should not add mas clockies t3s and inties are already catch-able you just need to know what your doing
C no bubbles in LS
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Rivr Luzade
Exclusion Cartel The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2015.07.26 07:39:30 -
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Bubbles in Low sec must never happen. If they were to be allowed in Low sec, Low sec would cease to exist and only Null sec and High sec would remain.
Furthermore, Hictors can already only use 1 bubble at a given time as they are the bubble. And dictors are already only allowed to fit not more than 1 interdiction sphere launcher.
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Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2015.07.26 07:40:43 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:
Furthermore, Hictors can already only use 1 bubble at a given time as they are the bubble.
you can use an entire rack of bubbles
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Rivr Luzade
Exclusion Cartel The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2015.07.26 07:49:39 -
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It's still only 1 warp disruption field as it's only around the Hictor's hull. Whether there is 1 or 4 isn't really important as it's still only in the same place. Not like with former dictors which could drag loads of bubble fields along their path.
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Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2015.07.26 07:51:49 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:It's still only 1 warp disruption field as it's only around the Hictor's hull. Whether there is 1 or 4 isn't really important as it's still only in the same place. Not like with former dictors which could drag loads of bubble fields along their path.
no there is a difference using a T1 bubble to drag someone out of warp then using a T2 bubble to extend your range to put them several KM further inside the field giving your fleet more time for a popper tackle.
also with every bubble you become harder to move/bump
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2015.07.26 10:10:30 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:It's still only 1 warp disruption field as it's only around the Hictor's hull. Whether there is 1 or 4 isn't really important as it's still only in the same place. Not like with former dictors which could drag loads of bubble fields along their path. no there is a difference using a T1 bubble to drag someone out of warp then using a T2 bubble to extend your range to put them several KM further inside the field giving your fleet more time for a popper tackle. also with every bubble you become harder to move/bump
Learn something new every day! I did not know you could have more than one bubble active on a Heavy Interdictor. I knew you could have one scripted and one unscripted, did not know you could use two unscripted. That is really cool. Thank you!
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So, why do I post here?
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Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2015.07.26 10:39:01 -
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FT Diomedes wrote:
Learn something new every day! I did not know you could have more than one bubble active on a Heavy Interdictor. I knew you could have one scripted and one unscripted, did not know you could use two unscripted. That is really cool. Thank you!
it's also how you get them into frig sized holes
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elitatwo
Eve Minions Poopstain Removal Team
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Posted - 2015.07.26 13:42:20 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:FT Diomedes wrote:
Learn something new every day! I did not know you could have more than one bubble active on a Heavy Interdictor. I knew you could have one scripted and one unscripted, did not know you could use two unscripted. That is really cool. Thank you!
it's also how you get them into frig sized holes
Shhh... Lugh, pls don't reveal the secrets of the 6 bubble hictor. I always say it's magic.
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Ripblade Falconpunch
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.26 14:36:31 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:FT Diomedes wrote:
Learn something new every day! I did not know you could have more than one bubble active on a Heavy Interdictor. I knew you could have one scripted and one unscripted, did not know you could use two unscripted. That is really cool. Thank you!
it's also how you get them into frig sized holes
Sort of. It only takes 1 bubble to push through a frig hole though. |

My Lap
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.26 17:02:52 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:-1
A fitting multiple bubbles is an important part of a hic (normally two)
B the bubble should not add mas clockies t3s and inties are already catch-able you just need to know what your doing
C no bubbles in LS
Inties that warp under 2 seconds are virtually uncatchable. This isn't even an opinion, it's how the server works in ticks. You might get lucky with a few smart bombing battleships on a gate but that is more of a random chance then any skills based mechanic. As for T3s; maybe if you cover a gate with drones or can which we see people do and is a bannable offence you have a good chance at catching one. It's still not consistent and uses a gimmick to make it happen. |

My Lap
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.26 17:07:57 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:Bubbles in Low sec must never happen. If they were to be allowed in Low sec, Low sec would cease to exist and only Null sec and High sec would remain.
Furthermore, Hictors can already only use 1 bubble at a given time as they are the bubble. And dictors are already only allowed to fit not more than 1 interdiction sphere launcher.
Sure maybe this couldn't be used in Low sec systems. However this doesn't prevent warping, nor would it drag or stop like a interdiction bubble would. Lowsec is pretty carebearish so I could see how this would put a hamper in for some players. But it could also bring a new gaming experience for faction warfare players. Maybe this mechanic can be prohibited on stargates in lowsec systems. |

My Lap
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.26 17:37:53 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:Bubbles in Low sec must never happen. If they were to be allowed in Low sec, Low sec would cease to exist and only Null sec and High sec would remain.
Furthermore, Hictors can already only use 1 bubble at a given time as they are the bubble. And dictors are already only allowed to fit not more than 1 interdiction sphere launcher.
Edited my post to clarify; hictors won't be able to use interdiction bubble and this new bubble at the same time. Thus only 1 bubble. |
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