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Fred Krueger	Posted - 2006.12.03 11:44:00 - [1] Well it's begun.. The Blockade is being dumbed down all because a few can't do it A mission which was a challenge is now gonna revert to "Sit and tank" like most of the others!! Wonder what's next... probably all of them So thanks to all you whiners that don't know how to fit a ship, use tactics or pay attention to what new content means. The "I WIN" button for everything is now back in your stable. /Rant Over.... got out the wrong side of the bed mode now deactivated
Goldfrapp Templar Republic	Posted - 2006.12.03 12:09:00 - [2] aaargh no ive not yet had the chance to try it.
Galk Gallente Autumn Tactics All the things she said	Posted - 2006.12.03 12:17:00 - [3] Me either Tbh i looked through it though, i had a plan... (one of those ones that makes you not lose) ______
Verus Potestas Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.12.03 12:18:00 - [4] Linkage? Patchnotes only says "Stop the Thief" which isn't hard if you aren't a tard Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
slothe Caldari Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.12.03 13:58:00 - [5] arent you thanking yourself here? im confused. *Before complaining about any ship try flying Minmatar*
Erin Nighthawk	Posted - 2006.12.03 14:18:00 - [6] Edited by: Erin Nighthawk on 03/12/2006 14:19:22 Ok lets weigh out how many people could do this mission against those who cant? Considering the tank needed to do this mission you would need to have alotta skill points and alotta money to buy good named equipment, maby you have the money for it but for 70% of the playing community its a downright ridiculous mission and is not on par with the rest of the level 4 missions. If you want harder missions then become a whiner yourself and ***** untill you get level 5 missions, because tecnically thats what this mission should have been, a level 5. I Know you get level, 1, 2 and 3 versions of this but thats ok because the difficulty level is just about right for that level, but the level 4 version is just rediculous.
Tachy	Posted - 2006.12.03 14:38:00 - [7] There was a change? As I always popped the small ships first and the BS last, I haven't seen any difference since [Rev] arrived on my hdd. When the first Merc BS pops, Shadows warp in, spamming their useless info to all open channels while I warp out and back in to take out their frigs from some distance again.. --==*-- The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing. by Sharkbait \| 2006.09.20
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.12.03 14:46:00 - [8] I can't believe it.... tbh those that couldn't do the "Stop the Thief Mission", were just dumb.... It was not a deadspace mission, you could make bkmrks and warp around the mission space to make sure you were out of range of most of the dps. Too many whiners in EVE, sooner or later your gonna turn this into a mugs game, with zero challenge and zero risk ....
Appalachia	Posted - 2006.12.03 15:37:00 - [9] So they removed this mission because some n00bs couldn't do it? Jeez that sucks. I thought this game separates the mans from the boys. I found this mission quite easy. Killed all in about 10 minuts. Great loot too. 6 items per can. Get this mission back!!!
Iudex Caldari CaIdari Navy	Posted - 2006.12.03 16:32:00 - [10] From what i've read in the patch notes they going to adjust difficulty, that can mean anything. If they make it easier, i must agree, it's a shame. People made a thread about it, we all posted it was hard etc. Then a Dev gave some hints and we worked out some tactics how it can be done safe and easy. But whiners kept on making new threads. Did not read anything on forums but just made new whining threads over and over so devs gave in. I think the devs should be more immune to all the whinage. It is very nice of them that they care about the community. I know other mmorgs where the devs don't give a xxx about it, so it's nice here, but the devs should not resign to the sheer number of dumb repeative number of dumb whining. There should be some lvl 4 missions that can't be done with low sp chars in cheap ships, otherwise there will be no challenge at all in missionrunning. And that stop the thief should remain like it is, it's not hard if you know how to do. Too bad if it will be made easier.

Tachy	Posted - 2006.12.03 16:34:00 - [11] I did it once more and could not detect a change. What am I doing wrong? --==*-- The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing. by Sharkbait \| 2006.09.20
Iudex Caldari CaIdari Navy	Posted - 2006.12.03 16:51:00 - [12] Originally by: Tachy I did it once more and could not detect a change. What am I doing wrong? Not yet changed. Check out the patch notes for tuesday's upgrade.
Ghan Tylous Caldari Infinite Dreams Inc	Posted - 2006.12.03 17:29:00 - [13] Missions and NPCs * The difficulty for the mission 'Stop The Thief' has been adjusted. ---------------------------------------------- Build 27912 to 27915 addresses Patch Notes for Revelations Tuesdays patch. If someone didn't read the patch notes for it
Asael Caldari Infinite Dreams Inc	Posted - 2006.12.03 18:12:00 - [14] Edited by: Asael on 03/12/2006 18:12:43 Just did it, and i cant say that it is so hard. It did caught me offguard...i was doing it for the first time, and i decided to check the forum when a few moments later the 2nd spawn wakes up. But still, nothing that a Cerberus with a A-type Gistii cant handle . Oh, hi Ghan 0/ ______________________________ [center] Infinite Dreams European Operations Director Join Infinite Dreams TODAY! [maroon][i]-Everto es hic servo
MMXMMX Caldari Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2006.12.03 18:26:00 - [15] Yeh i was lucky i got the mission after u guys found out that we need to shoot the BS last :) So thats what i dit :) Real nice mission it dont need a fix its alraidy great . 500 - Internal Error The server was unable to process your request. Support personel has been notified, no further action is needed.
Tachy	Posted - 2006.12.03 20:03:00 - [16] It would be okay if they did not spawn inside your pod, so to speak - For a nice start 30-50km would do just fine. --==*-- The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing. by Sharkbait \| 2006.09.20
Arlen Warstadt	Posted - 2006.12.03 20:15:00 - [17] I don't think you should take those patch notes at face value. While, yes there probably was a lot of complaining about Stop the Thief and, in all honesty, there's a 90% chance they're nerfing it. But maybe, just MAYBE, there is a chance that is was too easy in CCP's eyes and they're bumping the difficulty. Again, not very likely, but just because they're "adjusting" the difficulty of the mission doesn't mean you should jump to the conclusion that it's getting nerfed.
Galk Gallente Autumn Tactics All the things she said	Posted - 2006.12.03 21:12:00 - [18] I think it's about time somebody pointed out, this isn't the first time they have decreased a mission in dificulty. Im pretty much 99% sure that forum complaints don't contribute to their decisions either. ______
Chepe Nolon Core Domination	Posted - 2006.12.03 21:27:00 - [19] BLEH! There is always someone who warps straight into a mission after a major patch... Stop the Thief is as easy as a walk in the park, if you follow the hints from the experienced runners out there. The key here is to save the battleships, until you gotten a bit away from the warp in point, as it's there where the respawn occurs. This and the blockade is two new nice missions. I like them. Too bad they become boring after the 3rd and 4th time. I hope more people will join lvl4 ingame channel to ask if a mission has changed or not. Or use the websites out there. I for one, try to keep up with the changes, although some might slip past my attention. So it's better to ask one time extra than lose a ship, and be a whiner on the forums! Fly safe, use a shuttle! Chepe Nolon -- My notes about agent missions.
Interstellar Artois	Posted - 2006.12.03 22:09:00 - [20] Originally by: Erin Nighthawk Ok lets weigh out how many people could do this mission against those who cant? Considering the tank needed to do this mission you would need to have alotta skill points and alotta money to buy good named equipment, maby you have the money for it but for 70% of the playing community its a downright ridiculous mission and is not on par with the rest of the level 4 missions. I got this one again this afternoon. You know what I did? Just for kicks I stripped my raven (normal, not CNR) of its tech2 and named modules, put on plain tech 1 modules, then went out and soloed it without breaking into a sweat. If you can't do it given the amount of advice that's been given out in this forum, maybe you should take a good hard look at your tanking setup, or maybe go work for a logistics agent. Quote: because tecnically thats what this mission should have been, a level 5. Hahahaha oh dear. I expect level 5 agents will be a right shock to you. I'm expecting them to be excruciatingly difficult or even impossible for experienced mission runners to solo in faction setups. Besides, what's wrong with declining the mission if you think it's too hard? Personally I decline drone missions because I don't think they're worth it. No standings loss, no problem, and as of the rev patch it won't get offered straight away again.


Zrakor	Posted - 2006.12.03 22:31:00 - [21] I noticed that Stop The Thief was slightly harder than I had planned, so I changed it a little bit. The Blockade however will not be changed at all (it does have a slight chance of a commander spawn, after all), and I'll have the creator of 'The Assault' dungeon beef it up a bit as well.

Asael Caldari Infinite Dreams Inc	Posted - 2006.12.03 22:35:00 - [22] Lovely. "The Assault" can surely use a battleship or 2 more in the first section on level 4. All that range, and only Cruisers and Frigates to kill. ______________________________ Infinite Dreams Euro Director Join us TODAY! -Everto es hic servo Mihi
Galk Gallente Autumn Tactics All the things she said	Posted - 2006.12.03 22:52:00 - [23] Originally by: Zrakor The Blockade however will not be changed at all ( Please please please get rid of the message in every window... As nicer thought as it is.. i well enjoy my solitude in my corp and alliance windows... everything blinking at me gets rather nauseating. Mission is intresting though, i was tempted to get the lot in and see if my eos could handle it ______
Verus Potestas Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.12.04 00:04:00 - [24] Yes, totally get rid of the all-channel spam. Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
Father Weebles Wreckless Abandon The UnAssociated	Posted - 2006.12.04 00:58:00 - [25] Originally by: Erin Nighthawk Edited by: Erin Nighthawk on 03/12/2006 14:19:22 Ok lets weigh out how many people could do this mission against those who cant? Considering the tank needed to do this mission you would need to have alotta skill points and alotta money to buy good named equipment, maby you have the money for it but for 70% of the playing community its a downright ridiculous mission and is not on par with the rest of the level 4 missions. If you want harder missions then become a whiner yourself and ***** untill you get level 5 missions, because tecnically thats what this mission should have been, a level 5. I Know you get level, 1, 2 and 3 versions of this but thats ok because the difficulty level is just about right for that level, but the level 4 version is just rediculous. if u cant do stop the thief lvl4 u shouldnt be doing lvl4 missions, period. with 2 exp hardeners, 1 kin, 1 therm, and an EANM II, dual rep and cap booster i was able to tank before i had to warp and then came back in at 100 and finished the mission. all my equipment was tech2 bunch of friggin whiners ruining fun missions "Welcome to EVE, where inflation is out of control."
Feng Schui Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2006.12.04 01:35:00 - [26] Zrakor: please, make Stop the Thief a tad HARDER! I'm a "noob" pilot, with crap combat skills, didn't have any pre-knowledge about the mission (ie: I didn't read anything on it, tactics or otherwise), and it was my first ever L4 mission (in a DRAKE at that....) And it was easy. if only all of the other L4's where at that "difficulty".. I'd be on happy
Selthae Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.04 02:32:00 - [27] Originally by: Zrakor I'll have the creator of 'The Assault' dungeon beef it up a bit as well. <3
Tsanse Kinske WeMeanYouKnowHarm	Posted - 2006.12.04 02:52:00 - [28] Originally by: Zrakor The Blockade however will not be changed at all (it does have a slight chance of a commander spawn, after all), and I'll have the creator of 'The Assault' dungeon beef it up a bit as well. You might look at the L2 version. I can easily see some guy new to the game getting that as his first or second L2 and getting completely owned. Hell, I could see him and three of his friends all getting owned at the same time. It might really put new people off, and they won't realize it's harder than many of the L3s. It's a tough call though, because I like having harder missions personally. Maybe just make the description sound more dangerous a la Mordu's and the Extravaganzas? It'll cut down on the petitions and forum spam at least. Please don't take out the suprise element though. * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE
Minnanon	Posted - 2006.12.04 04:06:00 - [29] Originally by: Interstellar Artois I got this one again this afternoon. You know what I did? Just for kicks I stripped my raven (normal, not CNR) of its tech2 and named modules, put on plain tech 1 modules, then went out and soloed it without breaking into a sweat. Yes, but I'm guessing you have an awful lot more skill points than someone who's played for, say, 6-8 months. (I agree this mission shouldn't be dumbed down btw, it's great training for newer players).
Fred Krueger	Posted - 2006.12.04 06:57:00 - [30] Originally by: Zrakor I noticed that Stop The Thief was slightly harder than I had planned, so I changed it a little bit. The Blockade however will not be changed at all (it does have a slight chance of a commander spawn, after all), and I'll have the creator of 'The Assault' dungeon beef it up a bit as well. Zrakor, by all means dumb down the lvl 1 to 3 versions but as most have replied on here, leave the lvl 4 version as is. Even make it more difficult Lvl 4 missions are supposed to be a challenge for all of us and the risk of losing a ship by solo'ing these should be high. Those that want to just warp in, sit there and attempt to tank,go afk or use no tactics should have their butts handed to them on a plate!! Not even 1% of the player base have said this mission is too hard, yet straight away the few that gripe get listened to and out comes the NERF BAT!! As one of my favourite quotes states: "If you can't take the heat, don't stoke the fire" \emote stoking of many fires has now commenced



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