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Mister Holder
Faceless Men
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Posted - 2015.07.27 09:04:50 -
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I am looking to get back into wormholes, and am wondering which setup would be the fastest for c3 (possibly c4) sites. At the moment I have two toons who are highly combat capable. Each can run domi @ bs5 with very good drone skills, and tengus with subs sitting at 5, great missile skills, etc.
Question would be: Which setup would net me the higher isk/hr between duo'ing tengu or RR dominix? Would likely set the dominix up as a shield RR running a setup similar to this with possible "shiny" mods at some point (though I don't see much point in it).
Damage Control II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Capacitor Power Relay II Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Large 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter Large 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter Large S95a Remote Shield Booster Large S95a Remote Shield Booster Probe Launcher (Offlined) [empty high slot]
Large Egress Port Maximizer I Large Egress Port Maximizer I Large Egress Port Maximizer I
Or any of the obligatory rr tengu fits that are out there.
I am leaning towards the RR Dominix as the dmg projection/price of the setup is significantly better than that of a tengu, but would like other opinions on it.
Thanks in advance. |
Borsek
Incertae Sedis
311
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Posted - 2015.07.27 10:47:01 -
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2 shield domis is more dps and insurance in case of death, a tengu is mire slippery, can solo with a proper setup, but it's slow and boring. You can also stick a salvager on the domis and salvage as you kill, while the tengu needs a salvager to clean after it. Also,you can stick an ecm on one domi for it to draw aggro and tank while the other one reps nd salvages.
For more fits check the what should I kill sleepers with stickied thread. |
elitatwo
Eve Minions Poopstain Removal Team
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Posted - 2015.07.27 10:54:04 -
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First thing, the notion of isk/hour can only be applied for nullsec anomalies.
That 2x Dominix setup looks good. Tell your friend to keep close to you. Here is a trick you can use that will help you get more anomalies. You should fit a large higgs achor rig and always enter the wormhole you want to run sites in with your mwd on. That way you can trick this specific wormhole to spawn more sites. If you do this twice by entering and going out and entering again you might get a relic site spawn.
As for class 3 wormholes, you can run all sites in one Drake so you should be fine and in a class 4 you need to make sure that you do the entering and exiting them a few times to get the better loot.
If you see the wormhole shrinking a little you see you are doing it right and have the better spawns. Sometimes there might be someone with you the wormholes but don't let them scare you away.
Most of them are quite friendly and if you ask them nicely in local, they may even help you run the sites. Good luck!
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HoruSeth
Republic University Minmatar Republic
987
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Posted - 2015.07.27 11:27:38 -
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elitatwo wrote:First thing, the notion of isk/hour can only be applied for nullsec anomalies.
That 2x Dominix setup looks good. Tell your friend to keep close to you. Here is a trick you can use that will help you get more anomalies. You should fit a large higgs achor rig and always enter the wormhole you want to run sites in with your mwd on. That way you can trick this specific wormhole to spawn more sites. If you do this twice by entering and going out and entering again you might get a relic site spawn.
WHAT?
Never heard of that and missing proof of that tell's me, that it's not worth to waste 10minutes of my time on this.
@TE: [Dominix, C3 Domi Shield] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer II Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer II Internal Force Field Array I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Field II Large Micro Jump Drive Limited Thermic Dissipation Field I
Large S95a Remote Shield Booster Large S95a Remote Shield Booster Large 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter Large 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter Large 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter Drone Link Augmentor I
Large Egress Port Maximizer I Large Egress Port Maximizer I Large Processor Overclocking Unit I
Acolyte II x5 Warrior II x10 Ogre II x6 Bouncer II x5
This fitting has better tank than yours. Guess yours is too thin to run sites. For anomalies it might be enough, but it will break in some relic/data sites. Despite this above fitting has a small GTFO option. It needs a 3% CPU implant or drop one omnidirectly tracking link and put a co-processor ii in that slot, which would theoretically allow for T2 Remote Shield Boosters, i.e. more tank. I would recommend the implant tbh.
If you have a mate, always would recommend that fitting.
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Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
1225
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Posted - 2015.07.27 14:49:51 -
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Two RR-Domis with good skills need less tank.
You should run 2 invulns (another em-ward if you run data/relics with that setup), and three application mids, 2-3 energy xfer and 2 shield transfers. That's well enough for anoms. For the mids, I'd suggest 2 TP+OTC on the primary one and remote SeBo and 2 OTCs on the second. Lows should be 4 DDAs, OTE, DCU and a coproc. If the first wave got frigs, drop sentries on both domis and set them to guard each other, so the frigs will get rekt on approach.
elitatwo wrote:First thing, the notion of isk/hour can only be applied for nullsec anomalies. Or you can say 250-450mil/hr with two domis depending on concentration and wh-effect. 450m is a c3 magnetar. Rolling for a new hole takes ~7 minutes. |
elitatwo
Eve Minions Poopstain Removal Team
767
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Posted - 2015.07.27 16:05:43 -
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Lloyd Roses wrote:...Or you can say 250-450mil/hr with two domis depending on concentration and wh-effect. 450m is a c3 magnetar. Rolling for a new hole takes ~7 minutes.
Lloyd, I mean the spawn mechanics. In null once a site is complete, you will get a new one. In w-space when your sites are done, you either leave and look for another hole. And if you didn't appease bob someone else might have had the same idea.
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Mister Holder
Faceless Men
28
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Posted - 2015.07.27 20:52:27 -
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HoruSeth wrote:elitatwo wrote:First thing, the notion of isk/hour can only be applied for nullsec anomalies.
That 2x Dominix setup looks good. Tell your friend to keep close to you. Here is a trick you can use that will help you get more anomalies. You should fit a large higgs achor rig and always enter the wormhole you want to run sites in with your mwd on. That way you can trick this specific wormhole to spawn more sites. If you do this twice by entering and going out and entering again you might get a relic site spawn. WHAT? Never heard of that and missing proof of that tell's me, that it's not worth to waste 10minutes of my time on this. @TE: [Dominix, C3 Domi Shield] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer II Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer II Internal Force Field Array I Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Field II Large Micro Jump Drive Limited Thermic Dissipation Field I Large S95a Remote Shield Booster Large S95a Remote Shield Booster Large 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter Large 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter Large 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter Drone Link Augmentor I Large Egress Port Maximizer I Large Egress Port Maximizer I Large Processor Overclocking Unit I Acolyte II x5 Warrior II x10 Ogre II x6 Bouncer II x5 This fitting has better tank than yours. Guess yours is too thin to run sites. For anomalies it might be enough, but it will break in some relic/data sites. Despite this above fitting has a small GTFO option. It needs a 3% CPU implant or drop one omnidirectly tracking link and put a co-processor ii in that slot, which would theoretically allow for T2 Remote Shield Boosters, i.e. more tank. I would recommend the implant tbh. If you have a mate, always would recommend that fitting.
If you read a little deeper into their post you would see they were attempting to either A) get someone trapped in a hole, or B) get them killed by asking for "help" to the natives.
I will look into running this fit. The hole I moved into is a C3-NS so I will also be taking these domi's into null for ratting when the home hole doesn't produce much in terms of sites, or other holes to raid. |
Andrew Jester
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
1265
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Posted - 2015.07.27 20:57:08 -
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weakest troll attempt ever fugg gitgud kiddo
If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
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Mister Holder
Faceless Men
28
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Posted - 2015.07.28 00:55:25 -
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I actually just started looking into the Rattlesnake.
Would a duo of RR Rattlesnakes be able to clean out sites faster than a duo of RR Dominix? |
Starbuck05
Pretty Hate Machine. Symmetric Symbiosis
271
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Posted - 2015.07.28 06:51:22 -
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elitatwo wrote:First thing, the notion of isk/hour can only be applied for nullsec anomalies.
That 2x Dominix setup looks good. Tell your friend to keep close to you. Here is a trick you can use that will help you get more anomalies. You should fit a large higgs achor rig and always enter the wormhole you want to run sites in with your mwd on. That way you can trick this specific wormhole to spawn more sites. If you do this twice by entering and going out and entering again you might get a relic site spawn.
As for class 3 wormholes, you can run all sites in one Drake so you should be fine and in a class 4 you need to make sure that you do the entering and exiting them a few times to get the better loot.
If you see the wormhole shrinking a little you see you are doing it right and have the better spawns. Sometimes there might be someone with you the wormholes but don't let them scare you away.
Most of them are quite friendly and if you ask them nicely in local, they may even help you run the sites. Good luck!
Lol...just lol
-á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir !
-á- But if i call u sir , what would i call your wife then ??
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Tim Nering
R3d Fire
103
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Posted - 2015.07.28 06:52:19 -
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did someone say RR?
domis rock \m/. geddons work too. used to do it all the time. both solo and with friends.
as far as snakes go, sure RR would prob work great. but personally id do passive tanked snakes with mobile depot refitting if needed. DISCLAIMER: i dont actually fly the snake. |
HoruSeth
Republic University Minmatar Republic
987
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Posted - 2015.07.28 06:56:44 -
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Tim Nering wrote:as far as snakes go, sure RR would prob work great. but personally id do passive tanked snakes with mobile depot refitting if needed.
This! A RR Rattle is not needed for C3. Too Overtanked. The Killspeed might be a little higher than the one of the Dominix, but it costs approx. 2.5x the Dominix / Armageddon. Because of that you can use a 2x Dominix price passive Rattle fit and do a lot of extra damage from the free hislots, i.e. RHML or CML.
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Daniela Doran
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
56
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Posted - 2015.07.29 05:36:59 -
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Starbuck05 wrote:[quote=elitatwo]First thing, the notion of isk/hour can only be applied for nullsec anomalies.
That 2x Dominix setup looks good. Tell your friend to keep close to you. Here is a trick you can use that will help you get more anomalies. You should fit a large higgs achor rig and always enter the wormhole you want to run sites in with your mwd on. That way you can trick this specific wormhole to spawn more sites. If you do this twice by entering and going out and entering again you might get a relic site spawn.
As for class 3 wormholes, you can run all sites in one Drake so you should be fine and in a class 4 you need to make sure that you do the entering and exiting them a few times to get the better loot.
If you see the wormhole shrinking a little you see you are doing it right and have the better spawns. Sometimes there might be someone with you the wormholes but don't let them scare you away.
Most of them are quite friendly and if you ask them nicely in local, they may even help you run the sites. Good luck!
Lol...just lol[/quote
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elitatwo
Eve Minions Poopstain Removal Team
770
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Posted - 2015.07.31 05:08:09 -
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Starbuck05 wrote:
Lol...just lol
Shhhh... I would never
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Mister Holder
Faceless Men
28
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Posted - 2015.07.31 09:41:49 -
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Went the RR Domi route. With two pilots we clear a c3 site in about 8-10 minutes right now. Should be able to cut that down a bit once we get used to it. |
Mar5hy
Bite Me inc Bitten.
4
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Posted - 2015.08.01 02:17:17 -
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Whats up guys!
I have 3 pilots that can run RR domis.
How would 3 fare in a C4 hole ?
Don't have much PvE experience. Just want to make some ISK and was thinking of running sites in a c4 for a week or two. |
Mister Holder
Faceless Men
28
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Posted - 2015.08.01 11:45:46 -
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Mar5hy wrote:Whats up guys!
I have 3 pilots that can run RR domis.
How would 3 fare in a C4 hole ?
Don't have much PvE experience. Just want to make some ISK and was thinking of running sites in a c4 for a week or two.
I lived in a c4 on multiple occasions in the past. There are quite a few things that make C4's the least occupied class of hole (or used to be) in all of Eve. Things tend to pop out over 100k away, and it makes your isk/hr pretty pathetic if you don't have the right setups. The neuting, and RR in c4s are also pretty ******* terrible. You would likely be better off finding a good c3, or a c4 with c3 statics.
I would do a bit more digging before you jump into it. |
Ness Phase
Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens
14
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Posted - 2015.08.19 07:56:33 -
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Mar5hy wrote:Whats up guys!
I have 3 pilots that can run RR domis.
How would 3 fare in a C4 hole ?
Don't have much PvE experience. Just want to make some ISK and was thinking of running sites in a c4 for a week or two.
They will work. I prefer using 2 marauders. Mail me for more details.
P.S. your looking about on average 150 to 250 mil an hour. |
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