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Sigmund Evotori
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.07.27 18:12:34 -
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Hey guys,
I had a really cool idea I wanted to share as I think it would add a lot to the game in terms of play style and content.
I propose a Mining Bomb that can be launched from stealth bombers. It would destroy every asteroid in a 15 km radius (same as a standard bomb) and replace each one with a can that could be looted. The bomb could also salvage wrecks in the area in a similar way, and maybe salvage active player ships (effectively killing them) too.
Pros: Adds an interesting new play style of being able to black ops jump into null sec or low sec systems, nuke a belt, loot it quick and jump out, allowing for a hit and run style of mining.
Forces people to defend their space from raiders.
Cons: Nothing I can think of.
Thoughts? |
Nelly Galbatha
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2015.07.27 18:16:19 -
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Sigmund Evotori wrote:Hey guys,
I had a really cool idea I wanted to share as I think it would add a lot to the game in terms of play style and content.
I propose a Mining Bomb that can be launched from stealth bombers. It would destroy every asteroid in a 15 km radius (same as a standard bomb) and replace each one with a can that could be looted. The bomb could also salvage wrecks in the area in a similar way, and maybe salvage active player ships (effectively killing them) too.
Pros: Adds an interesting new play style of being able to black ops jump into null sec or low sec systems, nuke a belt, loot it quick and jump out, allowing for a hit and run style of mining.
Forces people to defend their space from raiders.
Cons: Nothing I can think of.
Thoughts? I wonder if you know how heavy belts are and how broken that idea would be. Because I would abuse it as a person that mines i would just nuke the belts with these bombs.. |
Sigmund Evotori
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2015.07.27 18:20:11 -
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Well obviously you wouldn't get all the Ore, maybe a small percentage out of it. All of it would indeed be broken. I should have specified. Maybe like %10? |
Chance Ravinne
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
333
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Posted - 2015.07.27 18:22:25 -
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If it's good, miners will use bomber alts to make bank. If it's bad, serious bomber pilots wont use it.
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Sean Born
Green Mining and Industry
0
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Posted - 2015.07.27 18:33:48 -
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Only if they make defender bombs that operate like the defender missiles. You launch your bomb, I launch mine and stop you from blowing up the belt. Maybe a third bomb that acts as an anti-defender bomb. So my bomb blows up your bomb to stop your bomb from blowing up my bomb. |
Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1429
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Posted - 2015.07.27 20:10:57 -
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I endorse this product and/or fantastic idea
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Chance Ravinne
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
343
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Posted - 2015.07.27 22:07:14 -
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Sean Born wrote:Only if they make defender bombs that operate like the defender missiles. You launch your bomb, I launch mine and stop you from blowing up the belt. Maybe a third bomb that acts as an anti-defender bomb. So my bomb blows up your bomb to stop your bomb from blowing up my bomb.
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
2585
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Posted - 2015.07.27 23:21:03 -
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By cool do you mean pmgwtfbroken?
Even at 10% you can mine faster with these bombs than you can a hulk and do so whilst exposing yourself for a fraction of the time. I suspect you dont appreciate the size of some rocks.
I dont even think the concept is remotely workable. This isnt the first time this idea has appeared.
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Maldiro Selkurk
CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X
322
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Posted - 2015.07.28 02:22:26 -
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So you want to flood the market with so many minerals they approach zero value AND, not stopping there, you want to make all other mining vessels obsolete.
When you put out game destroying ideas you go all in, gotta admire that about you at least.
Just in case that was a bit obtuse, this ranks as one of worst suggestions ive read in 3 plus years of playing this game, so if you were going for some kind of award you won!
Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
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Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
713
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Posted - 2015.07.28 06:03:13 -
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Sigmund Evotori wrote:Well obviously you wouldn't get all the Ore, maybe a small percentage out of it. All of it would indeed be broken. I should have specified. Maybe like %10?
Correct if wrong and changed since out there....industrial index is based on rocks mined.
wipe all the rocks, index goes up nice, respawns are real nice.
Wipe out only abc, leave the trit...index crawls and respawns suck.
So....to get index up one could wipe the ABC, bomb the trit and well....have a really nice day. Got your ABC, bombs wiped the trit, index shoots up and respawns gods are real nice to you.
Also have you seen the trit rocks that grown in 0.0? They get massive dude. 10% of that not too bad for the labor. How I used to mine in 0.0. Hauler spawns. Got you very adequate minerals...in a few minutes of work. Not full blown mining op levels but was nice all the same. Most time consuming part was getting the rock picked up really.
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Anthar Thebess
1241
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Posted - 2015.07.28 07:10:34 -
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Chance Ravinne wrote:If it's good, miners will use bomber alts to make bank. If it's bad, serious bomber pilots wont use it. Wingspan , mining service since 2015
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Sitting Bull Lakota
The Noble House of Borgia
3
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Posted - 2015.07.28 11:23:23 -
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I like this idea. Not really the salvaging other people's ships part (I like the concept, but not coupled with this). I like the idea of using a bomb to screw up mining and pve.
Here's OP's idea with a twist:
New bomb. Call it an Antiparticle Bomb. The description would be something about antimatter-matter annihilation. The bomb explodes and propels antimatter in an omnidirectional pattern. The antimatter collides with matter, and an annihilation event takes place.
What does it do? When you set it off in an asteroid belt, it depletes the asteroids' ore/ice content by somewhere between 50-90% while doubling the belt's respawn timer. Make it the only bomb allowed in highsec. It does no damage to ships, pods, deployables, etc. It isn't an offensive weapon. Use of the bomb earns a suspect flag.
Maybe add a deployable structure that goes with it so non bombers can have some fun too. Unlike the burst that the bomb does, the structure would deplete over time. Anyone who attacks it gets a suspect flag.
I'd buy that for a dollar.
I'm grooving with OP's idea here. We expand how people can interact by adding new ways to ruffle eachother's feathers. |
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Farsaidh's Freeborn
1459
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Posted - 2015.07.28 11:35:18 -
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They just tried to make nullsec mining viable, why on earth would they want to introduce something like this that would let someone troll a sov holders belts with a few stealth bombers. |
Nyalnara
AdAstra. Beach Club
86
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Posted - 2015.07.28 12:38:16 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:They just tried to make nullsec mining viable, why on earth would they want to introduce something like this that would let someone troll a sov holders belts with a few stealth bombers.
They added entosis link, which allow trolling a full sov holding alliance with a few interceptors.
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Tengu Grib
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
1284
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Posted - 2015.07.28 15:34:51 -
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Sitting Bull Lakota wrote:I like this idea. Not really the salvaging other people's ships part (I like the concept, but not coupled with this). I like the idea of using a bomb to screw up mining and pve.
Here's OP's idea with a twist:
New bomb. Call it an Antiparticle Bomb. The description would be something about antimatter-matter annihilation. The bomb explodes and propels antimatter in an omnidirectional pattern. The antimatter collides with matter, and an annihilation event takes place.
What does it do? When you set it off in an asteroid belt, it depletes the asteroids' ore/ice content by somewhere between 50-90% while doubling the belt's respawn timer. Make it the only bomb allowed in highsec. It does no damage to ships, pods, deployables, etc. It isn't an offensive weapon. Use of the bomb earns a suspect flag.
Maybe add a deployable structure that goes with it so non bombers can have some fun too. Unlike the burst that the bomb does, the structure would deplete over time. Anyone who attacks it gets a suspect flag.
I'd buy that for a dollar.
I'm grooving with OP's idea here. We expand how people can interact by adding new ways to ruffle eachother's feathers.
Omg I would abuse that so badly. It would be so much fun.
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Arla Sarain
567
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Posted - 2015.07.28 16:46:24 -
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Chance Ravinne wrote:If it's good, miners will use bomber alts to make bank. If it's bad, serious bomber pilots wont use it. In any case, CODE will use it to herd miners into certain systems in null to prepare them for a gank. |
Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
308
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Posted - 2015.07.28 16:49:52 -
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I too would abuse the hell out of this! bring it!
For posting an idea into F&I:
come up with idea, try and think how people could abuse this, try to fix your idea - loop the process until you can't see how it could be abused, then post to the forums to let us figure out how to abuse it.....
If your idea can be abused, it [u]WILL[/u] be.
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
1927
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Posted - 2015.07.29 14:21:56 -
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Sitting Bull Lakota wrote:I like this idea. Not really the salvaging other people's ships part (I like the concept, but not coupled with this). I like the idea of using a bomb to screw up mining and pve.
Here's OP's idea with a twist:
New bomb. Call it an Antiparticle Bomb. The description would be something about antimatter-matter annihilation. The bomb explodes and propels antimatter in an omnidirectional pattern. The antimatter collides with matter, and an annihilation event takes place.
What does it do? When you set it off in an asteroid belt, it depletes the asteroids' ore/ice content by somewhere between 50-90% while doubling the belt's respawn timer. Make it the only bomb allowed in highsec. It does no damage to ships, pods, deployables, etc. It isn't an offensive weapon. Use of the bomb earns a suspect flag.
Maybe add a deployable structure that goes with it so non bombers can have some fun too. Unlike the burst that the bomb does, the structure would deplete over time. Anyone who attacks it gets a suspect flag.
I'd buy that for a dollar.
I'm grooving with OP's idea here. We expand how people can interact by adding new ways to ruffle eachother's feathers. I would totally support a gameplay option that allowed people to directly impact ore supplies in this manner so long as it only worked in hisec. That would open up all sorts of interesting new hisec quasi-war tactics and maybe help move miners out of hisec.
I'm not sure if a bomb is the proper mechanism, but I like the idea.
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Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
714
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Posted - 2015.07.29 22:18:57 -
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Nyalnara wrote:Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:They just tried to make nullsec mining viable, why on earth would they want to introduce something like this that would let someone troll a sov holders belts with a few stealth bombers. They added entosis link, which allow trolling a full sov holding alliance with a few interceptors.
Bombers can't be e-war'd to ineffectiveness in seconds flat. True Unguided weapon....align on path, press button, release package of fun.
troll captor can be shut down in seconds flat with e-war. You don't have to track to land a jam....just get the lock.
That and large mineral deposits was never an issue in 0.0. Could make the case of the theoretical market power of the drone space residents but that was long ago when drones dropped mineral loot. Even then....the Russians and drone friends pretty much kept to themselves anyway. That is gone, we can assume any reserves they had from this time have been tapped decently by now so that if they wanted to crash markets it be less effective, if effective at all really.
The heavy bash aspect prior...was a problem. Do a year plus of bash CTA"s.....man this crap gets old fast. Dominion replaced the prior use of pos SOV. I did both, both sucked massive ass really.
That and like I said some would troll themselves with this. Kill the ABC, bomb thelow grade rocks like trit. The rocks that quite often grow to their large size as no one could be assed to mine them in the first place. Then its wait for index boost and rock refresh. What they do now. Difference being is if the trit is left untouched....the ABC respawns like ass.
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Atomeon
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.29 22:57:23 -
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Bad ideas are bad, i m surprising that none have reported as Troll post. -1 |
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
The Scope Gallente Federation
1886
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Posted - 2015.07.30 18:07:08 -
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Chance Ravinne wrote:If it's good, miners will use bomber alts to make bank. If it's bad, serious bomber pilots wont use it. Just have it give 1% or even .1% of normal yield from each asteroid. Then make that bombs cost a fortune. I wouldn't mind it being bad because this sounds like an awesome troll tactic.
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Iain Cariaba
1733
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Posted - 2015.07.30 19:54:21 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Chance Ravinne wrote:If it's good, miners will use bomber alts to make bank. If it's bad, serious bomber pilots wont use it. Just have it give 1% or even .1% of normal yield from each asteroid. Then make that bombs cost a fortune. I wouldn't mind it being bad because this sounds like an awesome troll tactic. And it has to work on ice. I will support it if I can use it to cripple ice fields.
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I couldn't have said it better.
Will troll for a t-shirt.
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Rayzilla Zaraki
Yin Jian Enterprises
299
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Posted - 2015.07.30 20:43:24 -
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Great googly moogly, the OP cannot possibly be serious.
I'd like a bomb that extracts all PI and moon goo within 15 AU, too, please.
Gate campers are just Carebears with anger issues.
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Tabyll Altol
Breaking.Bad Circle-Of-Two
98
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Posted - 2015.07.30 21:08:06 -
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Sigmund Evotori wrote:Hey guys,
I had a really cool idea I wanted to share as I think it would add a lot to the game in terms of play style and content.
I propose a Mining Bomb that can be launched from stealth bombers. It would destroy every asteroid in a 15 km radius (same as a standard bomb) and replace each one with a can that could be looted. The bomb could also salvage wrecks in the area in a similar way, and maybe salvage active player ships (effectively killing them) too.
Pros: Adds an interesting new play style of being able to black ops jump into null sec or low sec systems, nuke a belt, loot it quick and jump out, allowing for a hit and run style of mining.
Forces people to defend their space from raiders.
Cons: Nothing I can think of.
Thoughts?
Really ? Do you think longer than 10 sec over this idea and don-¦t think it is a bad idea ? This would make every miningship useless.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1446
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Posted - 2015.07.31 00:52:06 -
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Rayzilla Zaraki wrote:Great googly moogly, the OP cannot possibly be serious.
I'd like a bomb that extracts all PI and moon goo within 15 AU, too, please.
I endorse this trolling of the op and/or game breaking idea
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Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
716
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Posted - 2015.07.31 02:17:54 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Chance Ravinne wrote:If it's good, miners will use bomber alts to make bank. If it's bad, serious bomber pilots wont use it. Just have it give 1% or even .1% of normal yield from each asteroid. Then make that bombs cost a fortune. I wouldn't mind it being bad because this sounds like an awesome troll tactic.
I'll bite...what if the trolled doesn't give a crap.
Which would be many tbh. Something is telling me Mittens is not sweating this idea. Dreading the days his mighty empire is crashed by a bomber wing taking out 5 systems of rock in one night. Or several nights even. Is a 1000 man alliance going to run these ops for months on end?
If not like I keep saying...that system hit the night before will rock refresh, potentially even better if index jumped up, the next night. YOu and your merry band of rockbomb tards have to keep on doing this day after day after day after day.
You have a combat wing in space blowing up rock many would not care about. they are wasting their time really.
troll captor is working (kind of) because its actually an annoyance. I am equating it to the good old days of pos sov a little. See in those days you could annoy the **** out of a SOV holder with the fun tactic of random pos placement. CEO of my first pvp corp lived for this. Just took one crappy pos drop to "threaten" sov. Didn't care about the pos....it was dropped to bust balls. Punchline is he did this sober...just a guy who found interesting ways to **** people off. Drop pos, they had to clean it up. It at at least affected sov in some way.
Your idea....is akin to losing out on employee of the month, walking by and drawing a marker mustache on the guy's picture who beat you out for it. While meaningful to you most would be going...man someone has some issues.
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Rayzilla Zaraki
Yin Jian Enterprises
300
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Posted - 2015.07.31 22:31:31 -
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On re-thinking this, take out the magically appearing loot cans full o' ore and the OP could have thunk up the ultimate **** weapon.
Imagine if you will: a wing of CODE douche canoes warp in to an ice field in stealth bombers, find players they can't extort and BLAMMO! No more ice to mine. Since the bomb only affects ice, asteroids, maybe wrecks and not ships, this wouldn't be a CONCORDable offense even in high-sec.
Until I done went and thunk up that scenario, I almost changed my mind, eh.
Now...restrict it to W-space, null and maybe...MAYBE...low and this would be a decent war meta. Denial of resources could cripple alliances. Its easy to camp a gate or two to protect your convoys, but add every asteroid and ice belt and they'd be stretched thin like butter on too much toast.
Gate campers are just Carebears with anger issues.
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Jacqueline Zartz
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.08.12 23:25:28 -
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This is an awesome idea. Miners wouldn't need ganking anymore. We would just bomb the belts and tell them to move on. |
Tengu Grib
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
1315
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Posted - 2015.08.13 16:18:45 -
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Rayzilla Zaraki wrote:On re-thinking this, take out the magically appearing loot cans full o' ore and the OP could have thunk up the ultimate **** weapon.
Imagine if you will: a wing of CODE douche canoes warp in to an ice field in stealth bombers, find players they can't extort and BLAMMO! No more ice to mine. Since the bomb only affects ice, asteroids, maybe wrecks and not ships, this wouldn't be a CONCORDable offense even in high-sec.
Until I done went and thunk up that scenario, I almost changed my mind, eh.
Now...restrict it to W-space, null and maybe...MAYBE...low and this would be a decent war meta. Denial of resources could cripple alliances. Its easy to camp a gate or two to protect your convoys, but add every asteroid and ice belt and they'd be stretched thin like butter on too much toast.
Even if you got concorded for it, I'd still do it.
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Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
729
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Posted - 2015.08.14 03:32:09 -
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Jacqueline Zartz wrote:This is an awesome idea. Miners wouldn't need ganking anymore. We would just bomb the belts and tell them to move on.
Or this be great way to get miners off their ass and on combat ops.
They can slip by ye olde rat tax rate 100%. Just take a few minutes to wipe soime belts and tell them may as well fleet up, you don't have crap else to do now biyatches. Which as I keep saying has the benefit of making index better the next day for added effect.
Just how reliant is 0.0 on local mining these days anyway? Will admit to being out of the loop a bit stuck in empire. When last out there...yeah....an application showing all you can do is mine would get that application rejected real fast. Lots of miner hate basically as unless you could scare up combat ships and be assed to run them, you were about useless really. Did this change that much? |
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