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Zsha
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2015.07.29 11:29:49 -
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As the topic states. |
Rin Valador
Praetorian Auxiliary Force
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
149
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Posted - 2015.07.29 11:33:50 -
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no
"There will be neither compassion nor mercy;
Nor peace, nor solace
For those who bear witness to these Signs
And still do not believe."
- The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 25:10
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Cypherous
Liberty Rogues
Aprilon Dynasty
152
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Posted - 2015.07.29 11:34:23 -
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No |
ChromeStriker
Out of Focus
Odin's Call
905
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Posted - 2015.07.29 11:36:05 -
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/End of thread
No Worries
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Zsha
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2015.07.29 11:37:41 -
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But this Is an obvious change that needs doing to stop the shaft of 1 account holding players who like to PvP. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
2132
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Posted - 2015.07.29 11:39:51 -
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No. Never.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other spaces, where they can grow
Fozzie SOV is treating a symptom.
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Masaaq
PYRO MANIACS
A Band Apart.
22
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Posted - 2015.07.29 11:42:53 -
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Zsha wrote:As the topic states.
Yes. Here's the link to the blog.
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McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
942
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Posted - 2015.07.29 11:50:31 -
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Have, not has.
There are all our dominion
Gate camps: "Its like the lowsec watercooler, just with explosions and boose" - Ralph King-Griffin
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Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
370
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Posted - 2015.07.29 12:23:50 -
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Ccp has said several times they AGREE OGLs are broken and need fixed
They said they cant figure out how to fix the code though |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
5467
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Posted - 2015.07.29 12:27:44 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Ccp has said several times they AGREE OGLs are broken and need fixed
They said they cant figure out how to fix the code though
Not quite true.
They're looking for a way which won't melt TQ.
Ranged is easy. Just test the range to the boosting ship ever X. That's an expensive operation though.
(see what happens with 15 people all spam dscan at the same time)
Woo! CSM X!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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Zsha
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2015.07.29 12:39:38 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Ccp has said several times they AGREE OGLs are broken and need fixed
They said they cant figure out how to fix the code though Not quite true. They're looking for a way which won't melt TQ. Ranged is easy. Just test the range to the boosting ship ever X. That's an expensive operation though. (see what happens with 15 people all spam dscan at the same time)
What does melting TQ have to do with anything? TQ Isn't even a word.
Normal people who hold one account get the shaft.
On grid boosting SHOULD be a thing, there would be an increase in Command ship usage since the reason behind their design, to give boosts to fleet members in combat.
Fielding a Command ship in an engagement would be a good bring to any fleet AKA LINKS.
**** off grid boosting, seriously, it's such a sly way for someone to get the upper hand in an engagement, through solo play/small gang.
Really don't get how people enjoy alt-tabbing from combat char/link char, basically using 2 accounts to kill a 1 account holding person.
COME ON CCP ALREADY...................................................yaaaaaaaawwwwwwwnnnnn. |
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
864
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Posted - 2015.07.29 12:42:22 -
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DELETE LINKS. Refund SP. Then you don't need to even worry about figuring out non-server-melting-code. Duh. It's not rocket surgery, CCP. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
2133
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Posted - 2015.07.29 12:48:08 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:... They're looking for a way which won't melt TQ. Ranged is easy. Just test the range to the boosting ship ever X. That's an expensive operation though. ... "Are they on the over view?"
"Are they boosting?"
Yes + yes = receive boosts.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other spaces, where they can grow
Fozzie SOV is treating a symptom.
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Zsha
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2015.07.29 12:53:25 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:... They're looking for a way which won't melt TQ. Ranged is easy. Just test the range to the boosting ship ever X. That's an expensive operation though. ... "Are they on the over view?" "Are they boosting?" Yes + yes = receive boosts.
"Is CCP milking account subscriptions?" "Is CCP doing this at a cost which decreases gameplay enjoyment?"
Yes + yes = receive removal of offgrid boosting and increased gameplay fun for all.
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Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
1220
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Posted - 2015.07.29 13:01:42 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Ccp has said several times they AGREE OGLs are broken and need fixed
They said they cant figure out how to fix the code though Not quite true. They're looking for a way which won't melt TQ. Ranged is easy. Just test the range to the boosting ship ever X. That's an expensive operation though. (see what happens with 15 people all spam dscan at the same time)
Serious question, I've heard this said about AOE effects, and that makes sense, but what makes bubbles different? They are AOE effects that (I assume) apply an effect on all ships within their set range, yet don't seem to cause the same degree of problem (lag from bubbles seem mostly graphic-based). Also, I wouldn't have thought it was because they are static (I would imagine an aoe effect that is stationary is easier on the calculations than one that is itself moving), because HICs don't appear more lag-inducing than Sabre-bubbles. Couldn't boosting ships apply their bonus in the way bubbles apply their effects, rather than the way smartbombs do? Or am I fundamentally misunderstanding how bubbles work (like, do ships only check for their existence when you try to warp). |
Grim Hood
New Eden Police Force
157
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Posted - 2015.07.29 13:04:41 -
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Decrease effectiveness of links at range? Off grid = -50% |
Niriel Greez
Specimen 794
Project.Mayhem.
23
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Posted - 2015.07.29 13:04:51 -
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Zsha wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Ccp has said several times they AGREE OGLs are broken and need fixed
They said they cant figure out how to fix the code though Not quite true. They're looking for a way which won't melt TQ. Ranged is easy. Just test the range to the boosting ship ever X. That's an expensive operation though. (see what happens with 15 people all spam dscan at the same time) What does melting TQ have to do with anything? TQ Isn't even a word. Normal people who hold one account get the shaft. On grid boosting SHOULD be a thing, there would be an increase in Command ship usage since the reason behind their design, to give boosts to fleet members in combat. Fielding a Command ship in an engagement would be a good bring to any fleet AKA LINKS. **** off grid boosting, seriously, it's such a sly way for someone to get the upper hand in an engagement, through solo play/small gang. Really don't get how people enjoy alt-tabbing from combat char/link char, basically using 2 accounts to kill a 1 account holding person. COME ON CCP ALREADY...................................................yaaaaaaaawwwwwwwnnnnn.
Stop posting please.
On-grid links means that the bigger entity will be able to defend them, and thus use them, while everyone else will not. This would only benefit the blob further and is a terrible idea.
Either completely remove links from the game and refund SP, or leave it as it is.
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Zsha
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2015.07.29 13:10:12 -
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Niriel Greez wrote:Zsha wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Ccp has said several times they AGREE OGLs are broken and need fixed
They said they cant figure out how to fix the code though Not quite true. They're looking for a way which won't melt TQ. Ranged is easy. Just test the range to the boosting ship ever X. That's an expensive operation though. (see what happens with 15 people all spam dscan at the same time) What does melting TQ have to do with anything? TQ Isn't even a word. Normal people who hold one account get the shaft. On grid boosting SHOULD be a thing, there would be an increase in Command ship usage since the reason behind their design, to give boosts to fleet members in combat. Fielding a Command ship in an engagement would be a good bring to any fleet AKA LINKS. **** off grid boosting, seriously, it's such a sly way for someone to get the upper hand in an engagement, through solo play/small gang. Really don't get how people enjoy alt-tabbing from combat char/link char, basically using 2 accounts to kill a 1 account holding person. COME ON CCP ALREADY...................................................yaaaaaaaawwwwwwwnnnnn. Stop posting please. On-grid links means that the bigger entity will be able to defend them, and thus use them, while everyone else will not. This would only benefit the blob further and is a terrible idea. Either completely remove links from the game and refund SP, or leave it as it is.
Then remove them, they're ******* stupid.
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Lan Wang
V I R I I
Ineluctable.
1282
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Posted - 2015.07.29 13:13:20 -
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whats difference between having off grid boosts and a set of high grade implants?
EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding | Digital Design
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Switch Savage
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
158
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Posted - 2015.07.29 13:19:37 -
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Lan Wang wrote:whats difference between having off grid boosts and a set of high grade implants?
A second account? |
Zsha
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2015.07.29 13:25:37 -
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Remove the need for paying for a second account to remain competitive, this is the most annoying thing!!!!!!!!!!! |
Lan Wang
V I R I I
Ineluctable.
1282
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Posted - 2015.07.29 13:28:43 -
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i dont understand why that is even relevant, are you saying remove alts so people can have fairish fights by only running expensive implants to have an edge? good luck getting ccp to lose money on subscriptions
EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding | Digital Design
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Zsha
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2015.07.29 13:33:19 -
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Lan Wang wrote:i dont understand why that is even relevant, are you saying remove alts so people can have fairish fights by only running expensive implants to have an edge? good luck getting ccp to lose money on subscriptions
Yeah I am. |
Switch Savage
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
159
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Posted - 2015.07.29 13:37:50 -
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Just to clarify i have no problem with OGB. When you choose engagements they are just another thing to factor in to the "can i kill him" assessment. |
Lan Wang
V I R I I
Ineluctable.
1282
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Posted - 2015.07.29 13:46:43 -
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Zsha wrote:Lan Wang wrote:i dont understand why that is even relevant, are you saying remove alts so people can have fairish fights by only running expensive implants to have an edge? good luck getting ccp to lose money on subscriptions Yeah I am.
well doubt it will happen so get use to it and buy a booster or some nice shiny implants
EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding | Digital Design
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Zsha
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2015.07.29 13:47:26 -
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Switch Savage wrote:Just to clarify i have no problem with OGB. When you choose engagements they are just another thing to factor in to the "can i kill him" assessment.
Which is wrong |
Zsha
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2015.07.29 13:48:14 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Zsha wrote:Lan Wang wrote:i dont understand why that is even relevant, are you saying remove alts so people can have fairish fights by only running expensive implants to have an edge? good luck getting ccp to lose money on subscriptions Yeah I am. well doubt it will happen so get use to it and buy a booster or some nice shiny implants
What implants?
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Lan Wang
V I R I I
Ineluctable.
1282
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Posted - 2015.07.29 13:49:48 -
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high grade snakes, slaves, crystals, full rack of +5's or above etc etc
EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding | Digital Design
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3547
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Posted - 2015.07.29 13:58:06 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:... They're looking for a way which won't melt TQ. Ranged is easy. Just test the range to the boosting ship ever X. That's an expensive operation though. ... "Are they on the over view?" "Are they boosting?" Yes + yes = receive boosts.
This.
The server already figures out which ships share the same grid. You would think applying boosts to just those ships would not be that expensive in sever cycles.
Edit: This still might not solve the issue. Example:
You see someone you want to fight. He is alone, like you, and you figure its a good fight. You engage, and just as you do, his alt crosses the grid boundary. The boost becomes active. You lose.
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Frozen fanfiction
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DaReaper
Net 7
2438
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Posted - 2015.07.29 15:54:31 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:... They're looking for a way which won't melt TQ. Ranged is easy. Just test the range to the boosting ship ever X. That's an expensive operation though. ... "Are they on the over view?" "Are they boosting?" Yes + yes = receive boosts. This. The server already figures out which ships share the same grid. You would think applying boosts to just those ships would not be that expensive in sever cycles. Edit: This still might not solve the issue. Example: You see someone you want to fight. He is alone, like you, and you figure its a good fight. You engage, and just as you do, his alt crosses the grid boundary. The boost becomes active. You lose. The alt can appear in several ways: Fly across a grid boundary, de-cloak, warp in, jump, undock.
Not quite...
OGB will remain until the dogma rewtire is finished. for a rought idea why and why its so damn complicated... watch this
FF15 'Rewriting Dogma'
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Yes i am optimistic about eve.. i'm giving it till dec 31st 2016 before i doom n gloom
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