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Katja Frostbane Amarr The Valkyries	Posted - 2006.12.04 09:36:00 - [1] So here I am, flying around in my neck of the woods, going to hop into my own little slice of low-sec. I hop in, and have 5 other people in my normal empty system. A quick show info shows them all from the same corp. "Hmm" I says to myself, could this be a mining operation? A quick flyby of the belts confirms that it is. Two Covetors, an Omen for protection/rat killing, and a hauler. I bookmark the can (Warp to 0 for the win!) and dock. So while waiting for 11 more days for Salvage V to train up, I figure why not, lets see if I can actually kill anyone before I get podded. (I've killed a grand total of maybe 3-4 ships in PVP, in 3 years) So I grab the ole Arbitrator, and fit it for what I think would be a "gank" set up. 3 Medium Smartbombs, 1 small nos in highs, 1 Scrambler, 1 Webber, and two med shield extenders for mids, 400mm Steel Plate, beta bulkheads (+17% to hull), Two Cap Rechargers (+20% each). Warping out to "greet" my new neighbors, I realised I have no armor repairer... So in I go, fully insured ship ready to lose. I end up smack on the can (Love that warp to 0!), and start spamming smartbombs. Right away I forget about clicking the "Proceed with this dangerous act" and sit there for 5 seconds wondering why nothing is firing... then click the damn buttons. Smartbombs go off a plenty. Woosh goes the first mining barge, away (couldn't scramble in time) to the safespot. Woosh goes the second mining barge, away (didn't even see it) to safespot/station. Woosh goes the Omen, away to the safespot/station. Wait a minute... why is that Mammoth still sitting here? Oh well! Lock, scramble, pop! Mammoth goes down. Back comes the Omen using the same warp to 0 on the can. At this point my cap is about 10% left, and I realize that this probably won't be good for me. I prepare to die, knowing I ganked a hauler. Then I realize what most people who are new to this do - Oh yeah, my drone bay is full. Doh! I turn off my smartbombs, unleash the drones on the Omen (who's got my shield to abotu 30% at this point). I nos the Omen, web, scrambled and see who can outlast the other one.... praying that the Nos and Med Lasers will drain that cap before I go poof. Armor down to half,, Omens about 90% of armor left... then it all gets better :) I'm orbiting at 500m, drones are chewing up the armor, and I'm back at full cap after two minutes of no smartbomb action. Its a race to see if I can kill this Omen before her buddies come back (which they never did). With no cap her armor rep breaks, and she goes down. I end up sitting at about 12% armor left. I pick up the drones, loot the cans, kill what I can't carry, and warp of to safespot, again wishing I had an armor repairer! A minute or two later comes the usual talk "Pointless", "Congratulations you ganked a mining operation" and the like. I just had to smile at this. I am a one person corp. I have next to no pvp experience. They had 5 ships, I killed two. The Mamammoth isn't something to be proud about - but killing the omen I think was pretty good. After the deed, as I giggled to myself as the comments flew, I really had a good time. I think I might have to join the dark side. Yaarrgh!
Saint Lazarus	Posted - 2006.12.04 09:44:00 - [2] Sounds good, they should of had better protection But them calling you lame is pointless, it was low sec thats whats supposed to happen good work, and welcome to the darkside :insert cool signature here:
Flaming sambuka Trinity Nova	Posted - 2006.12.04 09:44:00 - [3] You say they had five ships, no they had one ship that could fight back, which may i remind you is one of the crappiest pvp ships in game. You go in with a badly setup arby and some how pull it off. Gratz for the kill though... Trinity Nova Mercenary Services
slothe Caldari Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.12.04 10:02:00 - [4] to answer your question - no it wasnt lame. anyone who goes into lowsec, whether its to mine, npc or to do missions, goes in knowing there is an inherent risk of being killed. they take the risk - you kill them. they can fight back, indeed they tried, so alls fair. just think what you could do with a bit of practice.? youve already realised your initial errors. imagine resolving them and trying again. thats it with pvp, each fight improves your gameplay. hell, youll even have helped the dude you killed and the mining op - they will be more careful in the future (they only lost low value ships this time) and so they will improve too. all benefit. *Before complaining about any ship try flying Minmatar*
Thuul'Khalat Gallente Phoenix Wing	Posted - 2006.12.04 10:09:00 - [5] Originally by: Flaming sambuka You say they had five ships, no they had one ship that could fight back, which may i remind you is one of the crappiest pvp ships in game. You go in with a badly setup arby and some how pull it off. Gratz for the kill though... 2 covetors = 10 medium drones, plus an Omen. By all rights that badly set up Arbi should have died in seconds --- We are Recruiting!
Nige007 Short Attention Span	Posted - 2006.12.04 10:22:00 - [6] Edited by: Nige007 on 04/12/2006 10:34:11 I'm with the above, 2 x covetors = lots of DPS with 10 mids!!! I do more damage in a covetor than I can come close to doing in a frig as the drons are ace. By the sounds of it the omen was also badly fitted and well the whole op was completely under prepared and can only expect them to be inexperienced. I actually wouldn't have taken this op on alone as I know how much damage the barges, cruiser and hualer could have kicked out if setup right so I applaud you for having the balls to take them on. Not trolling just think these guys must have been pretty lame. I'd love to tell them the error of their ways and show them how to improve though!!! wait... nah I'd love to find them in my system and gank um!!! Nige Edit: spelling
DarkElf Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts	Posted - 2006.12.04 10:55:00 - [7] Your playing a game and in that game you did something that from the sound of it you very much enjoyed, so how can that be lame? it's not, it's exactly what this game was designed for. you had fun and probably made a small amount of cash doing it. good work. DE
Electric Cucumber Amarr coracao ardente	Posted - 2006.12.04 11:10:00 - [8] Edited by: Electric Cucumber on 04/12/2006 11:10:43 that's the worst arbitrator setup i've heard of EVER. your lucky they didn't stay and drone you but the main thing is having fun right
Qi'Talos Minmatar	Posted - 2006.12.04 11:41:00 - [9] Congrats! In my short pirate lifespan ive had similar conversations afterwards.. I wonder why people DO bring protection from pirates (obviously they had some expectancy of possible baddies to come and slay em ) but still feel the need to go ¿congrats on the lame griefer action!¿. I say thumbs up for some good arbitrator fun and shame on the victims for being bad sports. Q.
Cheng Kung Amarr Sanguine Legion	Posted - 2006.12.04 11:52:00 - [10] You might want to check the forums for a good arbi setup. Your combined shield/armor/hull tank is a bit special..
Sweet Feets	Posted - 2006.12.04 12:00:00 - [11] If it's fun for you and doesn't violate any rules who cares if anyone thinks it's lame? You need to fraps it next time :) I do the same thing, but my miners are always afk so I don't get any smack (other than maybe some Chinese characters a few minutes later or some broken English insulting my dog). Although I did my runs in high sec the results were somewhat similar. This video does illustrate the danger of warp to zero from an non-prescouted vector though, combined with an itchy trigger finger it cost me an extra geddon. <begin badly edited video> Linkage <end badly edited video>
Verus Potestas Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.12.04 12:06:00 - [12] Shame you didn't get the barges Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
Gavin Neltharek Caldari HellBrothers Industries	Posted - 2006.12.04 12:10:00 - [13] Excellent job on what should have been a suicide attempt :P Sounds like the op you got teh jump on was ill prepared and they'll be better off for it in the future. Why the covs didn't simply sick their drones on you I won't ask, but considering the rickety setup, you definetly performed admirably. <----------------------------------> I mine roids, because shooting at moving targets is too difficult!
Ishquar Teh'Sainte Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.12.04 12:22:00 - [14] the setup was the targets were was it lame? hell no ... rule #1: have fun rule #2: kill people P.S.: a ship in low-sec is .. a ship in low-sec .. no matter if it's a shuttle, a hauler or a BS - if a ship can't defend itself, it needs a reasonable escort. it's not the "fault" of the pirate if the target ignores such a simple rule. ___________________ EVE: Revelations - The Game for Carebears and Gankbears no more skill needed for PvP - only skillpoints for Large Bubble and CovOps n00b-alts
Haulzorzz	Posted - 2006.12.04 17:00:00 - [15] Congrats nice kills. That arbi made me weep, honestly. Think of it this way you tried to do EVERYTHING all at once in that ship and its just not built that way, next time try to just armor tank. The arbi is a great ship it can armor tank, nos, use missles for added dps, has a good sized drone bay and can tackle it's one of the few versitle amarr ships. The smartbombs while not bad for nuking many light targets kept you from using your most valuable weapon, your drones. General rule of thumb if drones are a primary weapon system for you then never fit smart bombs on your ship.
Tau IX Beach Boys	Posted - 2006.12.04 20:13:00 - [16] Edited by: Tau IX on 04/12/2006 20:13:45 Well, glad you had some joy, however... Even Omen should have owned your Arbi. Shield extenders, no nos, wtf ? Not to mention that drones are the main source of damage on Arbitrator ( as it is amarr droneboat ). It has limitless ways to fit well, for example 3x med nos + 2x med rep ( a.k.a Invincible Cruz ).
InverseFlux	Posted - 2006.12.04 20:46:00 - [17] You killed a mammoth that had lagged out and did not warp out with the group and barely survived a 2 month old character, also with no pvp experience, and you decided to post about it? For the record, we were mining and watching a movie. You want to gloat about it and think its funny? Fine. Keep in mind that you encountered us in mining ships, the next you see us in low sec, you'll be loading back at the station paying for a new clone.
Devilish Ledoux Caldari eXin Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.04 20:59:00 - [18] If you're in a one-person corp, why is it called "The Valkyries"? Anyway, sounds like you had fun. And from the slow reaction time of the barges, you probably could have caught at least one of them if you had been faster. As for "omgsmack" ... They lost the battle, so they have to do something to make themselves feel better. I killed a mining Megathron the other day. His went down like a drunken prom date, but all this three-year-old player wanted to talk about was how lame I was. I rofled in my pod. It's time like these that make piracy fun. _ TomB has a nerf put aside for me ... for me ... for meeeeeeeeee!!!!
Adoro adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.04 21:26:00 - [19] Originally by: InverseFlux You killed a mammoth that had lagged out and did not warp out with the group and barely survived a 2 month old character, also with no pvp experience, and you decided to post about it? For the record, we were mining and watching a movie. You want to gloat about it and think its funny? Fine. Keep in mind that you encountered us in mining ships, the next you see us in low sec, you'll be loading back at the station paying for a new clone. Or he has me on his side..."nice omen...gone it is" --------
Gusadelic	Posted - 2006.12.04 21:34:00 - [20] I'm sensing some serious personal inadequacies in this forum...
Rumbaar Solitary Forsaken	Posted - 2006.12.04 21:36:00 - [21] I wish you were the type of pirate I get when I'm in my Hulk, I wouldn't be so worried all the time then ___________________ Custom banner? Click above or EVEmail
Jaded	Posted - 2006.12.04 21:37:00 - [22] Edited by: Jaded on 04/12/2006 21:38:46 No, _this_ is lame.
Neon Genesis Gallente Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated	Posted - 2006.12.04 22:21:00 - [23] Ahhhh, I remember the days when people mined in low sec. Good times
Speed Devil Caldari Liberty Rogues	Posted - 2006.12.04 22:48:00 - [24] Originally by: Electric Cucumber Edited by: Electric Cucumber on 04/12/2006 11:10:43 that's the worst arbitrator setup i've heard of EVER. your lucky they didn't stay and drone you but the main thing is having fun right that really doesnt sound right, because a smartbomb is the most usefull thing against drones Originally by: Rumbaar I wish you were the type of pirate I get when I'm in my Hulk, I wouldn't be so worried all the time then well if u would send ur drones then they get popped by smartbombs, then ur completely defenseless and the drones of the arbi can slowly eat ur hulk smartbombs can be usefull if u know how to use em Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Soraya Kha'marr Amarr Gun Metal Priests The Shadow Ascension	Posted - 2006.12.04 23:04:00 - [25] Edited by: Soraya Kha''marr on 04/12/2006 23:06:40 ok, good job on taking them out, given what you called a gank fitting. however, a well set-up omen with a pilot that knows what hes doing would have easily eaten you for breakfast with that fitting. next time try: highs: as many nos as you can, maybe one assault/heavy missile launcher. meds: afterburner (you can try MWD but i highly doubt it will fit), scram, web, tracking disruptor lows: 2 medium reppers, 1 energized adaptive nano membrane, 1 damage control drones: 7 x Hammerheads (IIs if you got em, this is where the damage is at!) when nosing you should be able to pretty much tank any non-nos cruiser/some BCs (never mind that the nos will break ther tank) and t2 drones can dish out the damage. This space is mine, mine alone!!!oneoneeleven! (You can rent it for cookies though.)
Devian 666 Sectoid Technologies	Posted - 2006.12.04 23:35:00 - [26] Originally by: InverseFlux You killed a mammoth that had lagged out and did not warp out with the group and barely survived a 2 month old character, also with no pvp experience, and you decided to post about it? For the record, we were mining and watching a movie. You want to gloat about it and think its funny? Fine. Keep in mind that you encountered us in mining ships, the next you see us in low sec, you'll be loading back at the station paying for a new clone. I don't see any gloating just some giggling at smack. Funny how the mammoth lagged out and that destroy the ship. Clearly it had nothing to do with the damage being done to it. A 2 month character with a well fitted ship can be a significant threat in combat, especially against a badly fitted ship. The first rule of mining in low sec is to not afk mine. Cool an orange sig
Sakura Nihil Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.12.05 00:35:00 - [27] Edited by: Sakura Nihil on 05/12/2006 00:37:44 cringes at the setup What are you doing to that poor little cruiser ? Oh, and not lame - they just got beat by someone with no experience, they should have ran like the wind when they saw you enter the same grid as them the first time, not waited around for you to open up on them...
Gusadelic	Posted - 2006.12.05 18:07:00 - [28] Originally by: Saint Lazarus Sounds good, they should of had better protection But them calling you lame is pointless, it was low sec thats whats supposed to happen good work, and welcome to the darkside Just because a person CAN do something doesn't mean he must, similarily, just because a game allows something, doesn't mean it's supposed to happen that way. Yes of course low security areas are unprotected. But there is an RP value to this. It is wildernenss, and wilderness is where more valuable ores are located. However, because it is wilderness, it also attracts unsavory people. So yes, I agree, there is a certain amount of danger that is associated with being in a low security area, but the point of a low security isn't to just randomly kill ships just because you think it would be fun. It takes a better person, NOT to kill or attack ships in low security, whether you think you can take them or not. I would have been much more impressed if you said hello acted friendly and then stabbed us in the back... at least that would have been entertaining for the both of us. In addition, this is supposed to be a game of partnerships and alliances, of teamwork. If you are out there all by yourself, and we are not threatening you, why would you make an enemy in your own space?? Doesn't it make more sense to collaberate and watch each other's backs for REAL pirate threats?? I'll never understand the mentality that most wannabe pirates have, but whatever the case, our losses were quite minimal, and that is precicely why we had so little protection. The fact that you got the jump on us has nothing to do with anything except for the fact that we were sitting ducks. I'm so glad it was a rush for you, but I would keep an eye out for us in the future, because you have deffinately made an enemy here, and you should not be proud of this.
Saint Schala The Scope	Posted - 2006.12.05 19:14:00 - [29] I have but one think to say to low life pirate skum like you. yarrrrr welcome to the dark side the best fun eve has to offer.. bar none!!!! convo me anytime and ill show u the ropes. i hope u do go this way in eve you wont regret it. ----------------------------------------------- 23453457 dont ya just hate not knowing the meaning behind a cryptic sig???? 34564556890
Kajeten Gallente Pinnacle Technologies	Posted - 2006.12.05 20:43:00 - [30] Originally by: Gusadelic Originally by: Saint Lazarus Sounds good, they should of had better protection But them calling you lame is pointless, it was low sec thats whats supposed to happen good work, and welcome to the darkside Just because a person CAN do something doesn't mean he must, similarily, just because a game allows something, doesn't mean it's supposed to happen that way. Yes of course low security areas are unprotected. But there is an RP value to this. It is wildernenss, and wilderness is where more valuable ores are located. However, because it is wilderness, it also attracts unsavory people. So yes, I agree, there is a certain amount of danger that is associated with being in a low security area, but the point of a low security isn't to just randomly kill ships just because you think it would be fun. It takes a better person, NOT to kill or attack ships in low security, whether you think you can take them or not. I would have been much more impressed if you said hello acted friendly and then stabbed us in the back... at least that would have been entertaining for the both of us. In addition, this is supposed to be a game of partnerships and alliances, of teamwork. If you are out there all by yourself, and we are not threatening you, why would you make an enemy in your own space?? Doesn't it make more sense to collaberate and watch each other's backs for REAL pirate threats?? I'll never understand the mentality that most wannabe pirates have, but whatever the case, our losses were quite minimal, and that is precicely why we had so little protection. The fact that you got the jump on us has nothing to do with anything except for the fact that we were sitting ducks. I'm so glad it was a rush for you, but I would keep an eye out for us in the future, because you have deffinately made an enemy here, and you should not be proud of this. Someone is hideing their true feelings!! ===============================================

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