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Highway Scout	Posted - 2006.12.04 11:06:00 - [1] I thought I would write something to help new players wanting to travel around in slow expensive ships but too lazy to actually have someone scouting for them or checking the map. 1. set your ap 2. fit plates, extenders and passive hardners 3. always warp to 0 4. if there is someone on the gate waiting for you, QUICKLY CLOSE YOU CLIENT (CTRL+Q) BEFORE YOU UNCLOAK !! 5. log back after 15-30 min, if there are still bad people in local quickly log again (!!!) before you exit warp and you will be perfectly fine These easy steps will guarantee your safety when travelling around, I hope it helped. Safe travels folks o/
Electric Cucumber Amarr coracao ardente	Posted - 2006.12.04 11:12:00 - [2] Originally by: Highway Scout 4. if there is someone on the gate waiting for you, QUICKLY CLOSE YOU CLIENT (CTRL+Q) BEFORE YOU UNCLOAK !! 5. log back after 15-30 min, if there are still bad people in local quickly log again (!!!) before you exit warp and you will be perfectly fine
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2006.12.04 11:14:00 - [3] Flamebaiting & trolling 4tl. The Eve-Online forums may not have invented whining, but they sure have perfected it. Arknox > shar with bad hair day >>> solution = suicide and spawn fresh clone :D
Bailian Moxtain	Posted - 2006.12.04 11:15:00 - [4] LOLs
Highway Scout	Posted - 2006.12.04 11:24:00 - [5] Originally by: Shar Tegral Flamebaiting & trolling 4tl. It might be a bit of a troll post, maybe, but can you deny a good log is the best way to make you almost invulnerable in 0.0? What I typed probably is the best way to survive in 0.0 with the current tools ingame. I'd like to remind you logging is perfectly kosher for ccp and anyone is allowed to do it.
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.04 11:36:00 - [6] The sad part about it is that it works. If you CTRL+Q, you should decloak, and sit still for two minutes, lowering your shields, and disabling all defensive mods. AND the pod should remain after the ship is blown up. CCP should also hire people to go to your home and slap you on the cheek for being a twit. [OMG! SMASH!]
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.12.04 11:37:00 - [7] Edited by: Plutoinum on 04/12/2006 11:38:41 Originally by: Highway Scout 4. if there is someone on the gate waiting for you, QUICKLY CLOSE YOU CLIENT (CTRL+Q) BEFORE YOU UNCLOAK !! I won't rest, until they fix it, like that your ship warps out, but isn't removed from space, until you back log in, which makes you vulnerable to probes (at least for an extended time.) Really quitting with being removed fast from space would require you to follow a regular log out procedure, that would take a bit time. (See my sig) Once that's fixed: 'Thanks for the loot, logger !' CTD/con-loss vs. log-out. A proposal for a fix.
Lucifer Fellblade Caldari Ore Mongers SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.04 11:49:00 - [8] I lol'd. Sad thing is people actually do that... :( ------
Highway Scout	Posted - 2006.12.04 11:53:00 - [9] Originally by: Lucifer Fellblade I lol'd. Sad thing is people actually do that... :( Well no one likes logging. If they do it its because it does work best than anything else (stabs, mwds, jammers). Sticky?
Ishquar Teh'Sainte Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.12.04 12:26:00 - [10] ok .. this "advice" lets my blood pressure reach unknow hights. ___________________ EVE: Revelations - The Game for Carebears and Gankbears no more skill needed for PvP - only skillpoints for Large Bubble and CovOps n00b-alts
DarkElf Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts	Posted - 2006.12.04 12:56:00 - [11] tbh in a bs or heavy tanked ship this works 99% of the time but a hauler is easily popped in the 30 seconds it stays there for and u get just as much time to lock it as u do if they just hit warp. DE
Twilight Moon Minmatar Malicious Intentions	Posted - 2006.12.04 13:50:00 - [12] Can't CCP write a wee line of code into the client to count how many CTRL+Q's the user does in each period between each downtime.....and then post the weekly results on a leaderboard type of thing split down into corps, alliances and individuals? Also, can't they apply a 24 hour ban on anyone who exceeds 5 CTRL+Q's per day? (Empty Space - Thinking)
General Apocalypse Amarr The Merchant Marines Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2006.12.04 14:29:00 - [13] Originally by: Tobias Sjodin CCP should also hire people to go to your home and slap you on the cheek for being a twit. LOOOL ----------------------- Originally by: Tobias Sjodin CCP should also hire people to go to your home and slap you on the cheek for being a twit.
Altaree Gallente Red Frog Investments Daikoku Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.04 14:40:00 - [14] ibtl? (trolling) Fix The Web Servers
Sir Drake	Posted - 2006.12.04 14:41:00 - [15] Originally by: Highway Scout Well no one likes logging. If they do it its because it does work best than anything else (stabs, mwds, jammers). Sticky? I actually like loggin. Nothing better to deny a nuisance their fun. ------------------------------------------------------- Sig was removed due to derogatory comments towards a group of people. -Karl Chorimcer I like that.
Highway Scout	Posted - 2006.12.04 14:49:00 - [16] Originally by: Altaree ibtl? (trolling) And why is it trolling? Do you know a better way to survive in 0.0 in a battleship? Serious question. This guide might look like a joke but its actually true.
Lanfear's Bane Shih Yang Tong Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.04 14:51:00 - [17] I have never met a logger. But I have met lots and lots of people that post in local after they found themselves in their pods claiming to have had lag and a disconnect just slightly after I warp jammed them. Must me coincidence. Also apparently it's lame to kill some one if they are lagging or about to get one of those random disconnects slightly after I jam them. So don't forget to convo someone and ask their permisson before you lock or fire. Manners maketh the pirate. Lanfear's Bane. _ _ _
Twilight Moon Minmatar Malicious Intentions	Posted - 2006.12.04 15:13:00 - [18] Originally by: Highway Scout And why is it trolling? Do you know a better way to survive in 0.0 in a battleship? Serious question. How about using the damn map to spot gateblobs? What do you think its got all those options there for? Perhaps to please the anoraks of the game? (Empty Space - Thinking)
Lanfear's Bane Shih Yang Tong Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.04 15:15:00 - [19] Originally by: Twilight Moon Originally by: Highway Scout And why is it trolling? Do you know a better way to survive in 0.0 in a battleship? Serious question. How about using the damn map to spot gateblobs? What do you think its got all those options there for? Perhaps to please the anoraks of the game? No, so that people can ignore them and then whine about something that is in place to help them. If you die in EVE you did something wrong. It's as simple as that. Lanfear's Bane. _ _ _
Duranis Satosith Minmatar	Posted - 2006.12.04 15:15:00 - [20] Originally by: Lanfear's Bane I have never met a logger. But I have met lots and lots of people that post in local after they found themselves in their pods claiming to have had lag and a disconnect just slightly after I warp jammed them. Must me coincidence. Also apparently it's lame to kill some one if they are lagging or about to get one of those random disconnects slightly after I jam them. So don't forget to convo someone and ask their permisson before you lock or fire. Manners maketh the pirate. Lanfear's Bane. LMAO! Didnt you know that! Its a bannable offense you know to lock/shoot/pod someone if there not ready or lagging or if it isnt a "fair Fight". ;)
Agent Li Galactic Defence Consortium	Posted - 2006.12.04 15:16:00 - [21] How about I park in a low sec system just the other side of a 0.0 chokepoint that is camped to hell, because people know it's an entry point to 0.0. I wait there, and log in just after the maintenance downtime (the first few minutes it's up) and jump through. Hey, nobody there! I'm on my way...
Twilight Moon Minmatar Malicious Intentions	Posted - 2006.12.04 15:36:00 - [22] Originally by: Agent Li How about I park in a low sec system just the other side of a 0.0 chokepoint that is camped to hell, because people know it's an entry point to 0.0. I wait there, and log in just after the maintenance downtime (the first few minutes it's up) and jump through. Hey, nobody there! I'm on my way... How about you just send a suicide alt through in a shuttle every 10 minutes? Chokepoint gates aren't camped even remotely as often as people think. Theres some that are never camped as well if you can be arsed going to them. (Empty Space - Thinking)
Snodgey2004 Mega Modal M0nkeys	Posted - 2006.12.04 15:46:00 - [23] Edited by: Snodgey2004 on 04/12/2006 15:47:23 Originally by: Highway Scout Originally by: Shar Tegral Flamebaiting & trolling 4tl. It might be a bit of a troll post, maybe, but can you deny a good log is the best way to make you almost invulnerable in 0.0? What I typed probably is the best way to survive in 0.0 with the current tools ingame. I'd like to remind you logging is perfectly kosher for ccp and anyone is allowed to do it. No if's or but's about it , your guide to newer players is lame . What your saying is the best way to enjoy the game is not even play it , cos' thats what pressing Ctrl+Q means . I might get flamed for this but I don't reckon new players should be flying solo around 0.0 with expensive ships in the first place , UNLESS they join a large 0.0 based corp that can replace ships , travel in groups ect. And by new players I do mean new in the sense someone who has never played EVE before , not some 2 day old alt . When I started playing I stayed in empire for a few months , learn how to play the game and what was what then went to 0.0 and not before doing my homework , thats what you should be telling people to do . And surely encouraging people to log isn't right ? yes logging to go sleep and stuff is perfectly ok , telling people to log when they risk something ? well.....
Agent Li Galactic Defence Consortium	Posted - 2006.12.04 15:55:00 - [24] Originally by: Twilight Moon Originally by: Agent Li How about I park in a low sec system just the other side of a 0.0 chokepoint that is camped to hell, because people know it's an entry point to 0.0. I wait there, and log in just after the maintenance downtime (the first few minutes it's up) and jump through. Hey, nobody there! I'm on my way... How about you just send a suicide alt through in a shuttle every 10 minutes? Chokepoint gates aren't camped even remotely as often as people think. Theres some that are never camped as well if you can be arsed going to them. You're right. But they definitely aren't camped to hell right after the servers come back up.
Lord BlackSter The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.04 16:02:00 - [25] Edited by: Lord BlackSter on 04/12/2006 16:02:42 Originally by: Highway Scout 4. if there is someone on the gate waiting for you, QUICKLY CLOSE YOU CLIENT (CTRL+Q) BEFORE YOU UNCLOAK !! 5. log back after 15-30 min, if there are still bad people in local quickly log again (!!!) before you exit warp and you will be perfectly fine
Highway Scout	Posted - 2006.12.04 16:52:00 - [26] Originally by: Snodgey2004 Edited by: Snodgey2004 on 04/12/2006 15:47:23 Originally by: Highway Scout Originally by: Shar Tegral Flamebaiting & trolling 4tl. It might be a bit of a troll post, maybe, but can you deny a good log is the best way to make you almost invulnerable in 0.0? What I typed probably is the best way to survive in 0.0 with the current tools ingame. I'd like to remind you logging is perfectly kosher for ccp and anyone is allowed to do it. No if's or but's about it , your guide to newer players is lame . What your saying is the best way to enjoy the game is not even play it , cos' thats what pressing Ctrl+Q means . I might get flamed for this but I don't reckon new players should be flying solo around 0.0 with expensive ships in the first place , UNLESS they join a large 0.0 based corp that can replace ships , travel in groups ect. And by new players I do mean new in the sense someone who has never played EVE before , not some 2 day old alt . When I started playing I stayed in empire for a few months , learn how to play the game and what was what then went to 0.0 and not before doing my homework , thats what you should be telling people to do . And surely encouraging people to log isn't right ? yes logging to go sleep and stuff is perfectly ok , telling people to log when they risk something ? well..... New as in, new to 0.0, but this works for everyone tbh. What I am saying is if you wanna fly your battleship thru 0.0 risk free simply put as much hp buffer on and log when a gate is camped. It works 99% - the only time your ship will be killed before 60 second elapsed is when you run into a BIG camp or gank squad but all the small pirates and solo roamers cannot touch you at all. Lame? It is legal ccp knows about it and does nothing, means they approve it. Now they boosted hp by 25% and still aggro/log timer is the same. Maybe this is to encourage new players into 0.0 that they keep the ctrl+q "tool"? I am still sure this advice is welcome for many, altho they might not reply here for fear of being abused/flamed.
Kin Hanyerec Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.04 17:38:00 - [27] Edited by: Kin Hanyerec on 04/12/2006 17:40:55 no time. i'll make a better post later
Dr Methanta	Posted - 2006.12.04 17:39:00 - [28] Originally by: Plutoinum Edited by: Plutoinum on 04/12/2006 11:38:41 Originally by: Highway Scout 4. if there is someone on the gate waiting for you, QUICKLY CLOSE YOU CLIENT (CTRL+Q) BEFORE YOU UNCLOAK !! I won't rest, until they fix it, like that your ship warps out, but isn't removed from space, until you back log in, which makes you vulnerable to probes (at least for an extended time.) Really quitting with being removed fast from space would require you to follow a regular log out procedure, that would take a bit time. (See my sig) Once that's fixed: 'Thanks for the loot, logger !' Unfortuantly that would create a bit of a problem because when the server crashes or cuts out (quite common) it'd create a lot of petitions. Petition them, its an exploit. Do it enough times and they'll get banned.
Izo Azlion Veto.	Posted - 2006.12.04 17:45:00 - [29] Originally by: DarkElf tbh in a bs or heavy tanked ship this works 99% of the time but a hauler is easily popped in the 30 seconds it stays there for and u get just as much time to lock it as u do if they just hit warp. DE We ganked 2 BS' within the time they logged the other day. Izo Azlion. --- Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Stakhanov Gallente Acid Enema Of Doomed Gerbils	Posted - 2006.12.04 19:00:00 - [30] The OP is 100% lame... why should new players travel in 0.0 with slow expensive ships ? 1) Autopilot brings you to bottleneck / high traffic systems , so it's better to follow a different path. 2) Plates increase your mass , slowing you down ; extenders increase your sig radius making you easier to lock. 3) Warp to 0 doesn't work when a gate is bubbled ! When spotting people in local , it's usually better to warp to 100km first to see if there is a gate camp. 4) Lame. The cloak time is enough to have the gate campers distracted if someone else jumps/warps in. 5) Not going to touch that one. I never logged out of stations / highsec anyway.
Naiko NakataH SniggWaffe	Posted - 2006.12.04 19:20:00 - [31] being that the OP seems to be an alt, ill say his post was made in sarcasm if not /wrists.
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2006.12.04 21:19:00 - [32] Originally by: Highway Scout Originally by: Shar Tegral Flamebaiting & trolling 4tl. It might be a bit of a troll post, maybe, but can you deny a good log is the best way to make you almost invulnerable in 0.0? What I typed probably is the best way to survive in 0.0 with the current tools ingame. I'd like to remind you logging is perfectly kosher for ccp and anyone is allowed to do it. Invulnerability is overrated anyway. But these pages is testament to why this is a troll post matey. Between those who had to point to their e-peens to those who are ready to burst a bubble from their necks in frustration over a game... a true testament to the bile and slime that makes this community what it is. And you knew that the freaks would come out flying their best colors for the show. Trolling is not limited to just flaming someone... you baited the thread and they came a running. (I've never logged to avoid a butt spanking btw. Still a troll thread.) The Eve-Online forums may not have invented whining, but they sure have perfected it. Arknox > shar with bad hair day >>> solution = suicide and spawn fresh clone :D
Ildryn Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.04 23:02:00 - [33] Originally by: Tobias Sjodin The sad part about it is that it works. If you CTRL+Q, you should decloak, and sit still for two minutes, lowering your shields, and disabling all defensive mods. AND the pod should remain after the ship is blown up. CCP should also hire people to go to your home and slap you on the cheek for being a twit. Another sad part is people like this ass ^ would like to kill you for nothing more than a killmail so their e-peen extends a bit He and other kids like him dont care about the ransom you are more than willing to pay or the fact that blowing you up isnt going to get them more than 500k.....Just the killmail and the knowledge they ****ed off a weaker and newer player
Ilor Prophet	Posted - 2006.12.04 23:28:00 - [34] Ctrl-Q'ing ****es me off (I've never done it and have no intention to), but I disagree with Lanfear's Bane in the odea that if you get killed in 0.0 you screwed something up. If you've ever Warped to 0 on a gate only to have it tell you that the (empty) system you're going to has a traffic advisory and that you should try again later, you know that you're basically screwed. And through no fault of your own, but rather because the system you're going to happens to be load balanced on the same node as Jita or Motsu and there's absolutely no way of knowing it before you try to jump. Stupid traffic control. Yeah, great, I'm #1 in the queue to jump. Thanks a lot, ass-holes.
Lucifer Fellblade Caldari Ore Mongers SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.04 23:33:00 - [35] Edited by: Lucifer Fellblade on 04/12/2006 23:37:20 Edited by: Lucifer Fellblade on 04/12/2006 23:36:41 Originally by: Ildryn Originally by: Tobias Sjodin The sad part about it is that it works. If you CTRL+Q, you should decloak, and sit still for two minutes, lowering your shields, and disabling all defensive mods. AND the pod should remain after the ship is blown up. CCP should also hire people to go to your home and slap you on the cheek for being a twit. Another sad part is people like this ass ^ would like to kill you for nothing more than a killmail so their e-peen extends a bit He and other kids like him dont care about the ransom you are more than willing to pay or the fact that blowing you up isnt going to get them more than 500k.....Just the killmail and the knowledge they ****ed off a weaker and newer player We kill for fun, killmails are just a bonus. ------
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.04 23:38:00 - [36] Originally by: Ildryn Originally by: Tobias Sjodin The sad part about it is that it works. If you CTRL+Q, you should decloak, and sit still for two minutes, lowering your shields, and disabling all defensive mods. AND the pod should remain after the ship is blown up. CCP should also hire people to go to your home and slap you on the cheek for being a twit. Another sad part is people like this ass ^ would like to kill you for nothing more than a killmail so their e-peen extends a bit He and other kids like him dont care about the ransom you are more than willing to pay or the fact that blowing you up isnt going to get them more than 500k.....Just the killmail and the knowledge they ****ed off a weaker and newer player Post with your main? [OMG! SMASH!]
Sever Aldaria Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2006.12.05 03:06:00 - [37] Originally by: Highway Scout I thought I would write something to help new players wanting to travel around in slow expensive ships but too lazy to actually have someone scouting for them or checking the map. [...] These easy steps will guarantee your safety when travelling around[...] Lies =P. That won't always work. Last night we caught a buzzard flying through 0.0 w/out a cov ops cloak just warping to 0 at each gate. Fast locker caught him before ship could warp off. Often people get away but not guaranteed. Especially if you're caught warping into a bubble. [green]Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further d
Ildryn Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.05 05:37:00 - [38] Edited by: Ildryn on 05/12/2006 05:40:30 Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 04/12/2006 23:41:18 Originally by: Ildryn Originally by: Tobias Sjodin The sad part about it is that it works. If you CTRL+Q, you should decloak, and sit still for two minutes, lowering your shields, and disabling all defensive mods. AND the pod should remain after the ship is blown up. CCP should also hire people to go to your home and slap you on the cheek for being a twit. Another sad part is people like this ass ^ would like to kill you for nothing more than a killmail so their e-peen extends a bit He and other kids like him dont care about the ransom you are more than willing to pay or the fact that blowing you up isnt going to get them more than 500k.....Just the killmail and the knowledge they ****ed off a weaker and newer player Post with your main? This is a PvP-game, non-consensual PvP is something you can expect in low-sec and 0.0. If you don't like it, don't go to there. I PvP for fun, and for NBSI. If I kill someone who is weaker or has less skillpoints than me, he just got a crash-course in what not to do while being in insecure space. This is my main Genious. Guess i could do the NBLO (Not Blue Log Out) And you can sit and wonder when im going to log back in I dont mind losing a ship to a superior player....but a gank or a gate camp...or some people trying to deny me access to open space simply because they can is stupid. As you are entitled to your opinions I am entitled to mine as well
Diemex Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.12.05 06:12:00 - [39] Originally by: Ilor Prophet Yeah, great, I'm #1 in the queue to jump. Thanks a lot, a-holes. I heard that ! The other day I lost a hauler on a trip down the pipe. It was going smooth enough... I watched local and the map and made sure my path was clear (mostly) I was almost home when 1 pirate was closing. I was on the gate so I figured I was free.... but then I got the stupid traffic advisory... I was #1 in the queue and I frantically hit the jump icon untill finally it let me in. But not before I was down to my last 10% of structure. On the other side I warped to a planet to regen shields. I probably would have lived had I hit CTRL-Q at this point... but really thats beneath me. The pirate followed... and found me... and podded me. Thats the way it goes sometimes. But CTRL-Q is not the answer... Sure would be nice if the 0.0 gates didnt grief me though ! ----- OMG I R TEH DIRTAY CAREBEARS !!11
Balklanac The Wicked and Wise	Posted - 2006.12.05 08:29:00 - [40] Originally by: Highway Scout 4. if there is someone on the gate waiting for you, QUICKLY CLOSE YOU CLIENT (CTRL+Q) BEFORE YOU UNCLOAK !! 5. log back after 15-30 min, if there are still bad people in local quickly log again (!!!) before you exit warp and you will be perfectly fine 100% Lame and 100% True --------- I would love to see a bounty pilot get some friend or an alt to pod them to collect the isk if that resulted in a two week delay before their 'personality' was uploaded to a new clone.
Lucifer Fellblade Caldari Ore Mongers SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.05 10:16:00 - [41] Quote: rabble rabble rabble This is my main Genious. Guess i could do the NBLO (Not Blue Log Out) And you can sit and wonder when im going to log back in I dont mind losing a ship to a superior player....but a gank or a gate camp...or some people trying to deny me access to open space simply because they can is stupid. As you are entitled to your opinions I am entitled to mine as well The mere fact that you didn't have scouts and know we were coming or didn't watch local and see us there, makes players 'superior', you don't wanna learn how the game works? Get used to that popping sound. ------
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.05 12:49:00 - [42] Originally by: Ildryn As you are entitled to your opinions I am entitled to mine as well Yes of course, pity you base your opinion on a lack of comprehension. [OMG! SMASH!]
Warrio Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.05 13:14:00 - [43] Originally by: Snodgey2004 join a large 0.0 based corp /whois Mega Modal Monkeys Fatal Revelations -LV- Winners never quit and quitters never win. But those who never win and never quit are ISK farmers. - Plato
Snodgey2004 Mega Modal M0nkeys	Posted - 2006.12.05 13:29:00 - [44] Originally by: Warrio Originally by: Snodgey2004 join a large 0.0 based corp /whois Mega Modal Monkeys My uber corp since you asked , what I said was advice that should be given to newer players , i can hardly call myself a new player and i can handle 0.0 without the need for ctrl+Q , still - joining a large or at least a corp that knows what they are doing in 0.0 is the best way to go .
Highway Scout	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:38:00 - [45] Originally by: Balklanac Originally by: Highway Scout 4. if there is someone on the gate waiting for you, QUICKLY CLOSE YOU CLIENT (CTRL+Q) BEFORE YOU UNCLOAK !! 5. log back after 15-30 min, if there are still bad people in local quickly log again (!!!) before you exit warp and you will be perfectly fine 100% Lame and 100% True Exactly.
Kin Hanyerec Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.06 00:22:00 - [46] This thread is funny. Actually just having a scout would save you the the bother of having to log off for probably hours.
Highway Scout	Posted - 2006.12.06 01:54:00 - [47] Originally by: Kin Hanyerec This thread is funny. Actually just having a scout would save you the the bother of having to log off for probably hours. yep because sitting in the previous system now that the new recon probe lunchers are seeded doesnt mean you will have to log anyway, nope
Gindar Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom iPOD Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.06 22:10:00 - [48] this was about 6 months ago, but.. does anyone remember that thread written by a bob guy, that gives region by region breakdown of 0.0, how to survive, make isk etc? Sig removed does not contain your name, email [email protected] if you have any questions - Xorus
Queen Hades	Posted - 2006.12.11 14:40:00 - [49] Edited by: Queen Hades on 11/12/2006 14:40:51 It is funny. 1. The "omg uber leet pvp" people cry a river here about how lame carebears are because they stay in empire space. 2. When people want to come to "where the real game is" they get harrassed by gate camps and wtfpwned. 3. As soon as people try to survive the camps (which are situations you simply can't survive by no means) by using the one and only tool they have, the selfrighteous people from 1. and 2. cry again... this time it's "exploit! lame!". Everyone with half a brain can tell the inherent lack of logic in this. Alliance people, it's up to you to decide - you can't have 1. and 2. at the same time. Stop camping gates or stop whining. Everything else is like selfdestructing your ship and then complaining about losing the money.
J'Jenksie	Posted - 2006.12.12 12:29:00 - [50] Edited by: J''Jenksie on 12/12/2006 12:31:11 lol, i remember when some guy tried it on me. I locked & "scrammed" him in a belt, was about a min b4 he popped, but during the battle, the named popped out of local. But his ship stayed an kept firing at me. not even 10 secs later he logs back in, just in time for him to see his ship go booooom!. Locked his pod got it down so that 1 more missile would make his pod go pop, then ransomed EDIT - b4 you saying anything, he was a few month old char, thats why i ransomed his pod, not his ship, he was only flying a cruiser, easily replaced, but it works an i got a few mil
Daar Gallente United Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.12 12:55:00 - [51] Originally by: Twilight Moon Also, can't they apply a 24 hour ban on anyone who exceeds 5 CTRL+Q's per day? I really hope this is a joke... what if someone's got connection problems (you can't check if it was a CTRL+Q, system crash, forcing EVE client to shutdown via Event Manager or a disconnect). What if someone's being "called" away from his computer, and just CTRL+Q when in space (but NOT under attack). Dumbest idea ever... well, OK... not 'ever', but a really dumb one still. ------- Daar Free will is an illusion...
Pa'ax	Posted - 2006.12.13 07:52:00 - [52] Originally by: Lanfear's Bane Originally by: Twilight Moon Originally by: Highway Scout And why is it trolling? Do you know a better way to survive in 0.0 in a battleship? Serious question. How about using the damn map to spot gateblobs? what's a gateblob and how do you see it on the map? thanx --
Romanasu Minmatar Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2006.12.13 10:34:00 - [53] if you are a noob dont come in 00 with out scouts Yarrrrrr
Redback911	Posted - 2006.12.13 12:15:00 - [54] Even better - run in windowed mode so u can troll the forums whilst flying semi-afk and just close the EVE window rather than going through the wrist-wringing exercise that is ctrl-Q.
Highway Scout	Posted - 2006.12.13 15:41:00 - [55] Originally by: Romanasu if you are a noob dont come in 00 with out scouts *******s
6Bagheera9 Shadows of the Dead Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.13 15:49:00 - [56] We make it a special point to gank, grief, call primary, and generally make life miserable for those who use log-off tactics.
Saerid Amarr FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.13 15:49:00 - [57] Originally by: Gindar this was about 6 months ago, but.. does anyone remember that thread written by a bob guy, that gives region by region breakdown of 0.0, how to survive, make isk etc? You're talking about Rod Blaine's guide probably. Rod Blaine's Guide for the 0.0 impaired As for the usual topic and arguments, the people who are both willing and able to fight for their space already thrive in 0.0, in groups great and small (go check Curse sometime). If the average "I refuse to pvp but I like to mine" person doesn't get access, it's working as intended.
Pa'ax	Posted - 2006.12.14 02:28:00 - [58] Originally by: Romanasu if you are a noob dont come in 00 with out scouts polite answer. since the complaint was people don't know how to use their maps to see gateblobs, I figured I'd ask what's a gateblob and how do you use your map to see one.
Jalec Creed Gallente	Posted - 2006.12.14 09:14:00 - [59] Originally by: Lanfear's Bane I have never met a logger. But I have met lots and lots of people that post in local after they found themselves in their pods claiming to have had lag and a disconnect just slightly after I warp jammed them. Must me coincidence. Lanfear's Bane. Lol. I met a logger once. I scrambled him, saw his mug disappear from local and to my surprise his Brutix just sat there I always thought that a boat would disappear after 2 minutes or so... yes, it took me longer to destroy it I was flying a paperplane with a scrambler versus a miner-fitted brutix. After a nice 4 minute pounding I blew it up. Nice to know that logging doesnt help save a ship if the target was scrambled before the log. The loot was utter crap tho... Creed.
Lanfear's Bane Shih Yang Tong	Posted - 2006.12.14 10:22:00 - [60] Originally by: Jalec Creed Originally by: Lanfear's Bane I have never met a logger. But I have met lots and lots of people that post in local after they found themselves in their pods claiming to have had lag and a disconnect just slightly after I warp jammed them. Must me coincidence. Lanfear's Bane. Lol. I met a logger once. I scrambled him, saw his mug disappear from local and to my surprise his Brutix just sat there I always thought that a boat would disappear after 2 minutes or so... yes, it took me longer to destroy it I was flying a paperplane with a scrambler versus a miner-fitted brutix. After a nice 4 minute pounding I blew it up. Nice to know that logging doesnt help save a ship if the target was scrambled before the log. The loot was utter crap tho... I got a Mega a few nights ago. Sad, sad story. He never logged in again the whole time I was waiting off my flag. I guess he was just resigned to his dhoom. Lanfear's Bane.

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