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Profilexero No Quarter.	Posted - 2006.12.05 14:44:00 - [31] Originally by: Pathfinda75 Originally by: SamuraiJack I set you on allaince standings. Go figure. So your pilots dont know how to properly set up their overview. Go figure. BURN
Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.05 14:53:00 - [32] Edited by: Avernus on 05/12/2006 15:01:42 Edit: Got to love having the forum log you out 2 minutes after you hit reply... Originally by: Scius as to FIX, we'll thats old news, they needed to blame someone and it was an honour to be rated so highly that a whole region fell because of one corp. Scius - Director FOFF (SPUFF to fixies) Having the majority of POS in the system, then making a deal with SA and pulling out with no notice (instantly losing FIX sovereignty in the system), wasn't exactly something that FIX rated 'highly', or considered something of an honour that you got to bestow upon yourselves. Each to their own values though. Blame didn't really get set in stone until FOFF joined Huzzah a couple of weeks later and moved back into FAT. Nope... I don't see Alumni forum access coming along anytime soon (besides, killed that section months ago). To Fixians, especially the older guys, avoid posting here. Thanks. Blog
SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.05 15:00:00 - [33] Originally by: Pathfinda75 So your pilots dont know how to properly set up their overview. Go figure. I dont care. You are -ve. Enjoy being shot. SJ. ASCN HC Community Manager ASCN Diplomat CLS Director =-
Scius Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2006.12.05 15:15:00 - [34] Edited by: Scius on 05/12/2006 16:12:01 I must Apologies to FIX for dragging history up, we both have our views and stand by them, these are new days and we have moved on. Good luck to all sides, keep it clean and smack free. Scius FOFF Director EXE do not post here again.
Martinez Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:07:00 - [35] Originally by: Avernus Edited by: Avernus on 05/12/2006 15:01:42 Edit: Got to love having the forum log you out 2 minutes after you hit reply... Originally by: Scius as to FIX, we'll thats old news, they needed to blame someone and it was an honour to be rated so highly that a whole region fell because of one corp. Scius - Director FOFF (SPUFF to fixies) Having the majority of POS in the system, then making a deal with SA and pulling out with no notice (instantly losing FIX sovereignty in the system), wasn't exactly something that FIX rated 'highly', or considered something of an honour that you got to bestow upon yourselves. Each to their own values though. Blame didn't really get set in stone until FOFF joined Huzzah a couple of weeks later and moved back into FAT. Nope... I don't see Alumni forum access coming along anytime soon (besides, killed that section months ago). To Fixians, especially the older guys, avoid posting here. Thanks. If by majority of the pos you mean the one pos set up by foff. It just happened to be the only one in system set up properly and the one that all of fix came to. As for pulling out without notice, what more notice did you need. well held fat as long as we could against sa, huzzah, and kaos. 2 weeks + with the help of a i think 2 other corps of the 15 to 18 that where in fix at the time. yes we did join huzzah but it was much longer than a few weeks later. also we joined huzzah, with huzzah leadership knowing we would be leaving to form our own alliance when we where ready. Silly fixys, Facts are good pvp corps
Capt Harlock Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:12:00 - [36] Out of respect for avernus and application of self discipline I will decline to comment. Except to say good luck to euphoria in their future endevours. Have fun thats what its all about.
Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:13:00 - [37] Originally by: Scius I must Apologies to FIX for dragging history up, we both have our views and stand by them, these are new days and we have moved on. Good luck to all sides, keep it clean and smack free. Scius FOFF Director Apology accepted, and I'm going to bow out of this thread... too flammable for my tastes. Blog
R0NIN Amarr Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.05 17:26:00 - [38] signed Out of respect for Avernus and application of self-discipline (being a first hand witness/participant to those events) IÆll be joining Capt HarlockÆs ôdecline to commentö club. Except to say good luck to euphoria in their future endeavors. Have fun thatÆs what its all about!
Tessa Vaako Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.05 18:54:00 - [39] So... Ars C shot FoFF, then shot from beside FoFF then didn't shoot FoFF and now we're back to shooting FoFF. I wonder what tomorrow will bring. -- Just how awesome are you BoB?
Farham Gallente AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.05 18:59:00 - [40] Edited by: Farham on 05/12/2006 19:34:21 Quote: Nobody said they were freelancing, I merely said we didn't hire them. So you want to play the "semantics" game? No, you didn't pay them ISK so you can say you didn't hire them. You did cut a deal with them for 0.0 space, they move 60ish+ ships into the PS area over the weekend and all the sudden they are helping you defend the AZN POS last night. That's as good as hiring them for anyone with more than average intelligence. I would think if your prior words were true, BOB would insist that these guys stay out of your gangs and not be seen "helping you" or people might rightfully declare you aren't doing things on your own. You can control information but you can't control what people see. Either way, welcome to the party EO.
Metal Dude Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.05 19:21:00 - [41] Emm, how many allinces and mercs are helping ASCN in this war? People that live in glass houses should not be throwing stones. The truth will set you free
Slowboat Interspace Trade Consortium	Posted - 2006.12.05 19:31:00 - [42] Ahh.. but you see there is a difference. As far as I recall ASCN never said they weren't hiring mercs. They most definitely never said that nobody could go into ASCN and help shoot BOB. From day one of the conflict BOB has stated categorically that they did not need OR want anyone else helping them. But I guess you would rather not recall those statements. Right?
Farham Gallente AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.05 19:32:00 - [43] Edited by: Farham on 05/12/2006 19:35:05 Edited by: Farham on 05/12/2006 19:32:58 Quote: Emm, how many allinces and mercs are helping ASCN in this war? People that live in glass houses should not be throwing stones. Let me try slowly. ASCN has made no bones about admitting nor actually hiring mercs to help. They have been an invaluable asset for us. Omni did a fantastic job. BOB, in the form of Mr. Blacklight, having stated these guys weren't hired is being pointed out as very disingenuous. There are more ways to pay a merc group like EO than in ISK, territory in 0.0 even if it is "rented" is one of them. There is no shame in admitting you have them helping, only in hiding behind semantics trying to deny it. Unless you want to tell over 150 people they didn't see EO defending the BOB POS last night in AZN.
Christopher Multsanti Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.12.05 19:32:00 - [44] Originally by: Farham Either way, welcome to the party EU. You mean EO or what ever their alliance ticker is, we arn't involved in this. [ER Public Relations Officer] [Is main activated, check, Post!]
Farham Gallente AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.05 19:34:00 - [45] You are correct Christopher Multsanti, I tend to be dyslexic before enough coffee is in me :) It is EO we are talking about, not EU.
Matrices Reborn Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.05 19:40:00 - [46] Edited by: Matrices Reborn on 05/12/2006 19:41:38 What a joke. The level of snip- Don't go there- Tirg deception over a video game of all things is amusing. Step 1: BoB claim to be "elite" and fighting by themselves. Step 2: Very skilled merc group FOFF, forming backbone of Executive Outcomes, live and operate in PS at BoB's allowance, fighting against ASCN at BoB's behest. Step 3: Because FOFF and BoB CEOs did not dress up in Versace suits and exchange pesos near New Mexico, there has been "no hiring of merc corp." Bottom line: BoB hires merc corp to plug in their springing leaks in manpower and time zones with a capable PvP powerhouse. Directly contradicting their own previous propaganda about fighting alone. Which, incidentally, was nonsense in the first place, since BoB's economy depends partly on the rent received from slave corps that populate BoB space, and outnumber BoB itself by a factor of 5:1. Now I can see why more intelligent people avoid these forums. Too much repulsive lies and spinning; enough to make a dradle blush. [Ars Caelestis] [ASCN]
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.05 19:46:00 - [47] The level of stupidity in this thread is quite entertaining. We populate our regions, you know this. Take your tinfoil hats off. Blog
Farham Gallente AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.05 20:05:00 - [48] Quote: The level of stupidity in this thread is quite entertaining. Quote: We populate our regions, you know this. Quote: Take your tinfoil hats off. Ahh yes, the every popular Tin Foil Hat defense. When in doubt and caught red handed, call people conspiracy nuts. Why would thinking you cut a deal with a Merc alliance, which has well known access to capital ships and skilled pilots, in which they get space as long as they help you against ASCN during your weak Time Zone coverage be Tin Foil Hat stuff? They move in over the weekend and show up defending your POS in AZN a day later which is not your territory(regardless of what you might think). Had they been seen defending a POS in GQ2 or PPT you might have a point. You brought in backup and they are in full use now as of last night. You and yours can say its nothing and try and use the lame Tin Foil Hat thing but everyone else can see it from a mile away. Again, welcome to the fight EO.
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.05 20:21:00 - [49] Well tbh guys we'd love to allow and invite incomptents in to our space to populate it with us, but they all joined ASCN so we were left with people that you lot are afraid of. Get over it. Originally by: CRYVOK Others, like BoB, they play the game in a meaningless fasition, concerned with nothing but winning. We care about our friends.
Rift Scorn Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.05 20:23:00 - [50] Well, you quite obviously are consipracy nuts. I'll spell it out very very very simply for you. A self pro-claimed Mercenery entity living in BoB Sovreign Regions does not = immediate contract on the same targets we are shooting. I think that should be ragingly obvious by now. Yes, we populate our regions. Thats hardly a super squirrel sekrit now. So, i'm not quite sure what you caught Blacklight red-handed at, but it certainly wasn't elbow deep in the conspiracy cookie jar. Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03
Farham Gallente AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.05 20:25:00 - [51] Quote: Well tbh guys we'd love to allow and invite incomptents in to our space to populate it with us, but they all joined ASCN so we were left with people that you lot are afraid of. Thanks for such a direct and on topic reply Dina! It tells me and everyone else we are right on the mark.
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.05 20:39:00 - [52] Is that the same deal we cut with MC? No? If we were going to use mercs why wouldn't we use ALL of them, hmmm? Because we don't need, nor want, to. You guys gave up on Paragon Soul, we populated it with people, people who realise to attack is FUN - and the one thing we don't do is stop people having fun. Originally by: CRYVOK Others, like BoB, they play the game in a meaningless fasition, concerned with nothing but winning. We care about our friends.
Gungankllr Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.05 20:59:00 - [53] I'm not sure why BoB has such a huge issue with admitting they need help. We needed quite a bit of help, for the most part we hired anybody that said yes to go play in Delve, Fountain and Period Basis... I think anybody with a little common sense can look past all the posturing and see what you're doing. Dressing it all up nice and pretty in a "Populating our regions" package doesn't make what you're doing now any less of a deviation from the pompous dogma you crammed down our throats over the last two months. Telling the truth is rather liberating. I ponied up everything about ASCN a few weeks ago, didn't make me the most popular person in ASCN but at least all the bullcrap stopped. (Well, except Preacher keeps bringing up the mining barge thing, I have no idea why) So please, drop the "We don't need any help in destroying ASCN" dogma, it's obvious you do if you're bringing your little buddies into Feythabolis to help you. TBH there's little point in arguing about it, since no matter what I say everyone in BoB will toe the line and say something different. I think the general Eve populace is smart enough to add 2+2 and not get 5. GK Hidden in this signature is a secret message. I like pie.
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.05 21:13:00 - [54] Edited by: DB Preacher on 05/12/2006 21:14:05 Gungan, I know it's hard to understand but we are populating your ex-territory. It has nothing to do with needing help. Guess what, when you are out of Feth, we already have a line up of alliances wanting to come into that space too. We could pull them in right now and assist us, but we won't. Ponder that one gungan. And even if we did need anyone else to help, what difference does it make to you except that your defeat is going to come all the quicker? dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Matrices Reborn Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.05 21:14:00 - [55] I suppose the BoB propaganda is to be expected; nothing to comment on there, really, as it fools no one. The real interesting development in all this is that Firmus Ixion is spitting in BoB's face; first, attacking -A- while -A- is attacking AXE, and now, refusing travel rights for BoB's newest co-opted pet. Combined with the evisceration of Xelas in Fountain, interesting things are happening in the Empire...
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.05 21:16:00 - [56] Originally by: Matrices Reborn I suppose the BoB propaganda is to be expected; nothing to comment on there, really, as it fools no one. The real interesting development in all this is that Firmus Ixion is spitting in BoB's face; first, attacking -A- while -A- is attacking AXE, and now, refusing travel rights for BoB's newest co-opted pet. Combined with the evisceration of Xelas in Fountain, interesting things are happening in the Empire... hahaha, Your info is wrong on 3 points. Grats, you must be samuraijack's intelligence. Try again, dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Imode Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.05 21:26:00 - [57] Edited by: Imode on 05/12/2006 21:29:00 Originally by: Matrices Reborn I suppose the BoB propaganda is to be expected; nothing to comment on there, really, as it fools no one. The real interesting development in all this is that Firmus Ixion is spitting in BoB's face; first, attacking -A- while -A- is attacking AXE, and now, refusing travel rights for BoB's newest co-opted pet. Combined with the evisceration of Xelas in Fountain, interesting things are happening in the Empire... Apologies in advance, Av. It's no secret, Band of Brothers and FIX do not see eye-to-eye on the situation regarding Executive Outcomes. However while we have problems with them, Band of Brothers does not. I'm not sure how that amounts to a spit in the face. They will be brought in to populate Paragon Soul and live there. If you go there to attack them, they will fight back because it is now their home. The problem lies in how ASCN views the progress of the war. ASCN believes they are still contesting Paragon Soul when in actuality, they have lost complete control of it. BOB is populating the region because they own it. The idea that EXE is moving in because BOB needs help lies with your inability to realize the fact that you no longer control Paragon Soul. As for attacking -A-, I'm not sure how that is relevant to this situation. Keep on digging your grave, Ars Caelestis. ____________________________
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.05 21:27:00 - [58] Originally by: Matrices Reborn I suppose the BoB propaganda is to be expected; nothing to comment on there, really, as it fools no one. The real interesting development in all this is that Firmus Ixion is spitting in BoB's face; first, attacking -A- while -A- is attacking AXE, and now, refusing travel rights for BoB's newest co-opted pet. Combined with the evisceration of Xelas in Fountain, interesting things are happening in the Empire... Out of the two pos you reinforced last night, for the cost of two dreads, neither are dead. Were you guys hoping a multi-front war would be your saviour? ho-ho-ho. Originally by: CRYVOK Others, like BoB, they play the game in a meaningless fasition, concerned with nothing but winning. We care about our friends.
Rift Scorn Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.05 21:29:00 - [59] Originally by: Farham You cut a deal with a Merc alliance in which you traded space for their help against ASCN. So you're talking with authority, or thats the way it seems, about a deal made by an alliance you're not in, towards another alliance entity, that you are also not in. Everything you say is speculation. It is pure Conspiracy, at its finest. You know jack and assume all. I spelt it out pretty simply before, it was not hard to join the dots. Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03
Slowboat Interspace Trade Consortium	Posted - 2006.12.05 21:35:00 - [60] Edited by: Slowboat on 05/12/2006 21:38:01 Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Matrices Reborn I suppose the BoB propaganda is to be expected; nothing to comment on there, really, as it fools no one. The real interesting development in all this is that Firmus Ixion is spitting in BoB's face; first, attacking -A- while -A- is attacking AXE, and now, refusing travel rights for BoB's newest co-opted pet. Combined with the evisceration of Xelas in Fountain, interesting things are happening in the Empire... Out of the two pos you reinforced last night, for the cost of two dreads, neither are dead. Were you guys hoping a multi-front war would be your saviour? ho-ho-ho. Why don't you guys just pony up to the fact that you can't fight ASCN alone anymore and you know it? Obviously bringing in EO to cover your AZN POS so you could defend your Fountain POS showed you that you can't, indeed, cover a two front war by yourselves. Must be a bit humbling to admit that the "best PVPers" need help eh? If you don't need help why don't you tell them to **** off out of your war and let your l33t skillz handle it. Edit: Dammit.. EO.. not EU <mumble>

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