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Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2006.12.05 09:01:00 - [31] Edited by: Shameless Avenger on 05/12/2006 09:04:47 Originally by: SasRipper Originally by: Shameless Avenger Anyway, what's the problem with plp being afk? they are causing excess load they are distorting target figures they are preventing people logging on / jumping into jita need I go on? Oh yes, you need to go on. First define "load". 2nd give me some evidence that an afk causes an 'excess load'. And plz don't mind being technical on the explanation. Use words like packet size, sql statements, DB queries, etc... Also plz define what are those 'distorted target figures' you are talking about, and why is bad they are distorted. Also plz define how an afk affects the jump queue in any way. And just so you know, I never go to Jita <roleplay on> It's always full of caldary happy-triger crying babies that can't get over the fact that we, the all-mighty gallente federation, kicked their butts out of their own home planet, forever <roleplay off>. EDITED CUZ I FORGOT SOMETHING: I can't believe my eyes, somebody is actually asking that EVE be WoWfisied. Nah, this can't be.
Tribunal FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.05 09:09:00 - [32] Quote: Targets who think lets dock up all day and let them camp us as we go to pub. Sorry, but that's merc life. "We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and applaud when they go by." - Will Rogers
Eveanne Gallente Sperm Trumpet Industries	Posted - 2006.12.05 09:10:00 - [33] Originally by: SasRipper ....Targets who think lets dock up all day and let them camp us as we go to pub... I thoroughly approve of this activity xx E
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.05 11:30:00 - [34] Edited by: Crumplecorn on 05/12/2006 11:30:16 "I pay my X per month" -This is one case where this argument actually holds true "AFK players excess load" -No. "Distorted figures" -Umm, alts? Macrominers? Macro<anything>ers for that matter. "Fully AFK, not talking in chat or anything" -You realise that to monitor chat you have to be online, otherwise you have no record of it. Checking on Corp/Alliance every 10-15min to see if anything is happening FTW? "Kick AFKers" -I often leave Eve open to monitor chat while I'm not at the keyboard, and just for convienience sake. I'd like not to be kicked off, kthxbye. ---------- IBTL \o/ EVE is upside down! WTZ+Slower Warp=Win
Zirator Times of Ancar THE R0NIN	Posted - 2006.12.05 11:34:00 - [35] I have two accounts. I play with one of it in 0.0 and the other one is doing carebearing stuff in Empire. When playing I have both of these accounts online but in general one of them is doing nothing in a station. But seeing that I pay ( I don't buy GTC's with ISK ) for both of my accounts I think it's my right to have them online at the same time. It's also easier then having to relog every 30 mins or so. I'm against the autokick idlers feature. I've seen it in WoW and SWG. And in both these games there were ways to avoid being kicked with the features provided by the game.
Pan Crastus	Posted - 2006.12.05 11:36:00 - [36] Originally by: Chribba But of course I'd rethink if CCP states that like 80% of the lag would be gone if them 10,000(?) afk'ers log off, otherwise I don't see a problem with it. 1. something would have to be very wrong with EVE if AFKers had a large negative effect on server performance - esp. when they're docked 2. according to CCP, there is no lag anyway. Why would they want to reduce their player numbers voluntarily? It would be a bad move PR-wise...
Deric Gallente	Posted - 2006.12.05 12:08:00 - [37] Originally by: SasRipper Originally by: Shameless Avenger Anyway, what's the problem with plp being afk? they are causing excess load they are distorting target figures they are preventing people logging on / jumping into jita need I go on? I once read (and have repeatedly been reminded) that crowded systems such as Jita get a node all to themselves. Systems don't span nodes last I heard, so unless the AFKer is in space, in Jita, they're not contributing to Jita lag at all.
Zakgram Apocalyptic Raiders Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.05 12:21:00 - [38] Originally by: SasRipper Originally by: Shameless Avenger Anyway, what's the problem with plp being afk? they are causing excess load they are distorting target figures they are preventing people logging on / jumping into jita need I go on? Proven how? Do you have access to some secret site somewhere that shows the impact for AFK users on jumping into jita? These are pretty bold statements that need to be backed up somehow.
Belladonna Nightshade	Posted - 2006.12.05 12:49:00 - [39] As far as I am concerned the people afk in stations are not the problem. Why has nobody yet brougth up the issue regarding cloaked enemies sitting afk in a sytem 23/7 to disrupt your activities? That imho is worth a kick after say 30 minutes of inactivity.
Myz Toyou the Organ Grinder and Company	Posted - 2006.12.05 13:01:00 - [40] Were will you do the cut ? Here are 2 extrems: The station hugger or the well placed all day cloaked Recon ship in hostile main system to annoy all carebears ???
Budulai	Posted - 2006.12.05 13:10:00 - [41] To sum it up... nonsense!
Sir Bart Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.12.05 13:24:00 - [42] Originally by: Orree Originally by: SasRipper que's are a daily occurrence in eve now like wow or eq Really? I have only seen it happen the few times I tried to log onto SiSi and then when they first brough Revelations up on Tranq.... I log in every day...different times (Euro peak, US peak), both with character in hi-sec Empire and 0.0. Kind of Ironic that the only way you would have missed them is if you're flying on autopilot afk. heh. -Bart
rachel saxon	Posted - 2006.12.05 13:38:00 - [43] Originally by: Merdaneth Actually, EvE is the most AFK inducing game I ever played. Travelling, mining, shooting down well-tanked battleships, all are AFK activities for me. Do 5-10 jumps: vacuum the room Do 11-15 jumps: hang up the laundry Do 16-30 jumps: do the dishes (I have a lot) Many battleships take 2-3 minutes to kill for me, and there's not a single significant decision I can make that affects that time (or my risk) in any way, I'll take the time to browse a website. There is also now way to speed up or affect a mining cycle in any significant way, and once you've seen you lasers cycle a couple of dozen times, you've seen enough, thus AFK. Logging in and out means extra hassle for me, and I miss the corp chat in the meantime, which is another negative. If I'm on but afk, I can reread it at when I return. Why do you even bother loggin in, you are just adding to the problem, go and play xbox, or carry on watching britney videos, dressing up etc
Flyyn Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2006.12.05 13:39:00 - [44] Originally by: SasRipper Edited by: SasRipper on 04/12/2006 23:59:18 Originally by: Ch33z0rz I have paid for to sit in a station all day I'm going to do it. nice attitude wreak other peoples enjoyment when your not even there. And the more money ccp has to spend on hardware the less money they have to spend on paying dev's, gm's & scripterÆs to fix bugs and add new features. Can you prove this? That he is ruining sombodys enjoyment by being AFK? Or are you just ****ed cause a war target loged on, and never undocked? This is as bad as it can get, but don't bet on it.
lev	Posted - 2006.12.05 13:40:00 - [45] Originally by: Belladonna Nightshade As far as I am concerned the people afk in stations are not the problem. Why has nobody yet brougth up the issue regarding cloaked enemies sitting afk in a sytem 23/7 to disrupt your activities? That imho is worth a kick after say 30 minutes of inactivity. you ought to really be gettin probing then, instead of whining,
Me I	Posted - 2006.12.05 13:45:00 - [46] Originally by: SasRipper but gms and devs have also said eve dosent lagg and here you are asking those very same ppl to do something about it ;p hmmm....
Akira Khan	Posted - 2006.12.05 13:46:00 - [47] Originally by: SasRipper Originally by: Shameless Avenger Anyway, what's the problem with plp being afk? they are causing excess load they are distorting target figures they are preventing people logging on / jumping into jita need I go on? What the hell are you doing in Jita? lmao A player doing nothing while logged on isnt causing any lag...
Me I	Posted - 2006.12.05 13:49:00 - [48] Originally by: Crumplecorn Edited by: Crumplecorn on 05/12/2006 11:30:16 "Fully AFK, not talking in chat or anything" -You realise that to monitor chat you have to be online, otherwise you have no record of it. Checking on Corp/Alliance every 10-15min to see if anything is happening FTW? not actually true ;p your client by default logs all chat BUT NO ONE in their right mind would go check it to see what it was said, it would take hours to check what was said all day not to mention like 5 minutes to open the damn folder each time because it has so many files in it :\| sorry to pick on you but didn't want the op or someone else coming and saying "zomg yes you!11!1! WORNG!"

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