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Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
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Posted - 2015.08.04 04:39:39 -
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I was wardecced once. Some dude was butthurt that I stole his 150 MILLION ISK loot. Our battle during my suspect timer ended in a stalemate, so he went crying to his buddies. Apparently I had stolen from someone in an elite hisec merc corp. And I would be made to pay for my offense. Oh dear. His corp decced me and began to camp on gates in groups of HACs and T3s.
I switched over to one of my other characters with a nearly identical skillset during the wardec, and carried on as usual.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
24512
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Posted - 2015.08.04 05:06:45 -
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Yozul wrote:I think that the real problem is that corps that don't center around violence don't really have any good violence free ways of defending themselves. The best defence is a good offense. Wardecs allow for corps that aren't centred around spaceship violence to involve corps that are centred around it via the ally mechanic; just one option of many that you can use to deal with wardecs.
Quote:If a corp wants to declare wars on every industrial group in the universe simultaneously they should be committing economic suicide, but the game as it is now doesn't really allow for that. The tools for industry are universally available to all, if existing industrial corps are driven into liquidation then others will rise to take their place. Eve is a game of alts where little is as it seems and ulterior motives commonplace; I know that if I was in the business of targeting miners or other industrialists I'd have an alt ready to profit from the losses of my opponents, and I know that I'm not alone in this.
Quote:I don't know off the top of my head any good way to prevent people from getting around that kind of thing with a 0 skill point purchasing alt, but can't help but feel like maybe that's a good direction to look anyway. There's another one of those options for dealing with a wardec, another would be using a 3rd party to move the stuff you bought on that alt to where you need it for your main.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Mag's
the united
19962
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Posted - 2015.08.04 05:43:47 -
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Utara Ataru wrote:The universally accepted definition of PvP involves direct combat with ships in EVE or avatars in other games. Oh dear, you really have no clue.
Destination SkillQueue:-
It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
3914
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Posted - 2015.08.04 06:36:28 -
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Wardecs are fine. We just need "peacedecs" so the non-PvP types can force PvP types to play in a different way for as long as the "peacedec" lasts. 
73% of EVE characters stay in high security space. 62% of EVE subscribers barely PvP. 40% of all new accounts just "level up their Ravens". Probably that's why PvE content in EVE Online is sub-par and CCP is head over heels for PvP...
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
1442
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Posted - 2015.08.04 06:41:56 -
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Oh look, some guy comes from WOW and thinks he has to change EVE because he was a level 42 panda which makes him a legendary game designer.
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6474
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Posted - 2015.08.04 07:11:58 -
[66] - Quote
Ima Wreckyou wrote:Oh look, some guy comes from WOW and thinks he has to change EVE because he was a level 42 panda which makes him a legendary game designer. ZOMG, LEVEL 42!?!?!?! Didn't even know it was possible to get so elite!
But no, wardecs do suck though. Not so much gone, but they are due for a serious rethink.
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Barrogh Habalu
Forever Winter
Absolute Zero.
990
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Posted - 2015.08.04 07:24:46 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Wardecs are fine. We just need "peacedecs" so the non-PvP types can force PvP types to play in a different way for as long as the "peacedec" lasts.
Like, killing enough of their ships to make them go to PvE/market/something else to get new ones? 
Eh... It was a long while since I've last seen this kind of threads. Oh the memories of 2013.
Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
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NightmareX
Coreli Corporation
Mercenary Coalition
664
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Posted - 2015.08.04 07:57:36 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:But no, wardecs do suck though. Not so much gone, but they are due for a serious rethink.
War decs doesn't sucks. But they need some little tweaks here and there to be a little better. Because you know, there is always room for improvements.
Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:
1: Asteroid Madness
2: Clash of the Empires
3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
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Joel Vaille
14th Legion
The Bloc
0
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Posted - 2015.08.04 08:38:05 -
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While I do think its stupid how there are people whose soul purpose in the game is to gatecamp just to try to ruin someones day, there is a lot of counter play to this. If you cant gather up all your members to kill them pay someone who can. If u have to work with other alliances that are at war with them it would help. Gate camping ships are usually not the best for real pvp. You could avoid the system, transfer stuff with contracts or alts, etc. I know the gate camping corp my fw alliance was at war with didn't have much fun with us. Killed a few of my rookie ships as I laughed at them getting away with my pod. If u don't give them anything to kill they will go away. There's a solution to everything if u think it through. |
Desert Frog
Red Frog Freight
Red-Frog
5
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Posted - 2015.08.04 08:38:21 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Utara Ataru wrote:HS indy players who love to mine and craft and who list most of the stuff sold in the major markets. Move stuff --> Red Frog
I fully endorse this suggestion.
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Bedreddin
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2015.08.04 09:05:29 -
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Adaption has to be in every corps mentality. If your corp is folding, docking up, losing members, you were doomed anyway. Maybe not today, but soon. As has been mentioned, the options open are endless. Hell, pay mercs to war dec back, move operations, alts, change tack for a period. The fact that a war dec can end your game play is a sad indictment on play styles, possibility, and corp mentality |
tiberiusric
Comply Or Die
Retribution.
200
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Posted - 2015.08.04 09:08:07 -
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I kind of agree with the OP. I have played this game since 2003 and I am a pure pvper, been in all the wars, done piracy, done the highsec war thing which was fun, but its fun for the people doing the killing. Why because its actually easy kills. Yes Eve is a PvP game at its core, but eve is supposed to be a sandbox, where you can do or be anything, therefore there are a lot of people that simply do not want to PVP.
Without the miners and builders, you wouldnt have any ships or mods to fly with so pvpers need them as much as they need you. So for people slagging off the people that do this, perhaps sit back on think a little, and just because you dont like mining doesnt mean someone else shouldnt. You need these people more than you think.
Anyway back to war decs. Ive come to realise wardecs are for pvpers who are completely useless at pvp, simple as. The prey on people that simple cannot fight back or dont want to. Otherwise why are you not in low sec or WH or Null where 'real' pvp happens?
Also I have noticed in the game ccp gives with one hand and takes from the other, or puts something in place to protect something and then adds a counter to reduce that. Make your mind up ffs.
Look if you want to PVP you have low sec, FW, WH, Nullsec, NPC Nullsec. High sec is supposed to be not a pvp arena per say (god tippia please dont respond im not interested, because i know what youre going to say its too predictable) , so why put another mechanic in place that allows people to make this into a pvp arena. Either do or dont.
Its easy for me to just assist many many corps in wardecs for free! yes for free! but on the other hand you make the actual wardeccer pay alot the more they add to the list. So it doesnt really stop the issue that it was meant to.
So may say well you can only assist the defender well i dont care, i just want targets, therefore ill just go through 100s of wardecs and offer free assistance. Ta-Da you have suddenly created a huge battleground for every corp that wants to in high sec for free.
Let high sec be high sec, let miners mine, let buiilders build its only going to benefit you as a pvper, ccp in growing numbers in the end. This lets kill everything anywhere was cool 10 years ago, but now people are leaving because of it and its killing the game, and me as a vet have probably invested -ú1000s into this game, i really dont want my character to be lost because of a few vets crying about nothing and ccp closes down. Eve numbers are getting worse every month
And by what i have seen over many years that actually carebears are in nullsec, farming anoms, passive income on moongold, pass income on renting and thats billions and billions of easy ISK. Not like the high sec guys who mine crappy ores and make a small amout of profit. So really just leave them alone to do something they like and play your own game, because quite frankly they are not bothering you, nor do they really affect your game, youre all just being asses for the sake of being asses.
If you want easy kills then hey eve is not easy, go learn to pvp with people that will shoot back.
It reminds of the scene in Bloodsport where van damme smashes the bricks and the guys says great thats cool but bricks dont hit back. Same here...
high sec has got police to cope with bad boys, remove wardecs and let the pvp happen where it should, which is pretty much a huge area.
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NightmareX
Coreli Corporation
Mercenary Coalition
665
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Posted - 2015.08.04 09:14:31 -
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tiberiusric wrote:Anyway back to war decs. Ive come to realise wardecs are for pvpers who are completely useless at pvp, simple as. The prey on people that simple cannot fight back or dont want to. Otherwise why are you not in low sec or WH or Null where 'real' pvp happens?
I think you should have a look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ-_61zfTE8
And this one aswell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i58srJMfrfM
War decs are fine. Simple as.
Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:
1: Asteroid Madness
2: Clash of the Empires
3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
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Remiel Pollard
Black Hydra Consortium.
CODE.
6723
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Posted - 2015.08.04 09:27:54 -
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tiberiusric wrote:Look if you want to PVP you have low sec, FW, WH, Nullsec, NPC Nullsec. High sec is supposed to be not a pvp arena per say (god tippia please dont respond im not interested, because i know what youre going to say its too predictable) , so why put another mechanic in place that allows people to make this into a pvp arena. Either do or dont.
New Eden is a PVP arena. The whole game. If PVP was not intended in high sec, we'd be unable to target one another, or there would be some other mechanic preventing it. Instead, we can target and even shoot each other freely, albeit with a swift reaction by CONCORD in high sec if the engagement is considered illegal. If you've been here so long, you have no excuse for failing to grasp the PVP nature of EVE Online, none at all, and everything you just posted is little more than ignorance of that nature. EVE is a PVP game, no matter where you are, and the sooner you accept that, the better you'll do at the game.
For the record, I've PVP'd in all 'secs', and it's no more or less 'real' in any one of them than it is in another. Different tactics and strategies are required in each, as well as different sets of skills, but I can assure you the PVP is just as real in high as it is in low, nul, and wh. Pretending that some form of PVP is not as 'real' as the one you do is nothing more than elitism, and maybe you can fool yourself with that, but good luck putting that bullcrap line past me.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6477
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Posted - 2015.08.04 09:31:51 -
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NightmareX wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:But no, wardecs do suck though. Not so much gone, but they are due for a serious rethink. War decs doesn't sucks. But they need some little tweaks here and there to be a little better. Because you know, there is always room for improvements. They might not suck for the handful of groups that abuse the ever living **** out of them, but objectively they suck as a mechanic. They prevent corps other that wardec focused corps from existing at even a moderate size in highsec (while having no effect in any other space) so they discourage social behaviour and they reward more for less challenging opponents.
Of course when they change the people harvesting industrial corps in hundreds of wardecs are going to cry, but they definitely need to change and I think CCP knows this. I reckon they are next.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6477
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Posted - 2015.08.04 09:38:13 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:New Eden is a PVP arena. The whole game. But PvP involves more than "pew pew" and what wardecs currently do is allow one group to force their style of PvP on another. They are mass abused by groups wanting to farm easy kills. All they do is add arbitrary limits on the size and playstyle choice of highsec corporations who aren't specifically designed around wars. That's why groups like red-frog operate though NPC alts. It's incredibly stupid that being in a group would offer so much of a disadvantage in a game with such strong social aspects.
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NightmareX
Coreli Corporation
Mercenary Coalition
666
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Posted - 2015.08.04 09:40:24 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:NightmareX wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:But no, wardecs do suck though. Not so much gone, but they are due for a serious rethink. War decs doesn't sucks. But they need some little tweaks here and there to be a little better. Because you know, there is always room for improvements. They might not suck for the handful of groups that abuse the ever living **** out of them, but objectively they suck as a mechanic. They prevent corps other that wardec focused corps from existing at even a moderate size in highsec (while having no effect in any other space) so they discourage social behaviour and they reward more for less challenging opponents. Of course when they change the people harvesting industrial corps in hundreds of wardecs are going to cry, but they definitely need to change and I think CCP knows this. I reckon they are next.
Well, i can't really say that we abused the war dec system and did see the war dec system as bad after what my 2 videos over shows. We used the war dec system like it should and it was good.
Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:
1: Asteroid Madness
2: Clash of the Empires
3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
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Remiel Pollard
Black Hydra Consortium.
CODE.
6723
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Posted - 2015.08.04 09:47:39 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:New Eden is a PVP arena. The whole game. But PvP involves more than "pew pew" and what wardecs currently do is allow one group to force their style of PvP on another. They are mass abused by groups wanting to farm easy kills. All they do is add arbitrary limits on the size and playstyle choice of highsec corporations who aren't specifically designed around wars. That's why groups like red-frog operate though NPC alts. It's incredibly stupid that being in a group would offer so much of a disadvantage in a game with such strong social aspects.
Until corp-rolling to avoid wardecs is solved, I have no sympathy for people that feel like a playstyle is being forced on them. None whatsoever, whether that claim is true or false, and your argument here does nothing to alter the bottom-line fact that people signing up to a PVP arena should do so expecting PVP.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6477
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Posted - 2015.08.04 10:13:59 -
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NightmareX wrote:Well, i can't really say that we abused the war dec system and did see the war dec system as bad after what my 2 videos over shows. We used the war dec system like it should and it was good. I'm sure your terribly amateur videos show a lot of things, but people still don't want to watch them. Go back to shooting up industrial ships. There's absolutely no point talking to most wardec abusers about the wardec system since all you guys want is an easy ride.
Remiel Pollard wrote:Until corp-rolling to avoid wardecs is solved, I have no sympathy for people that feel like a playstyle is being forced on them. None whatsoever, whether that claim is true or false, and your argument here does nothing to alter the bottom-line fact that people signing up to a PVP arena should do so expecting PVP. It is solved. Corp rolling only works for tiny corps with no shared assets. The moment you have a POS or a POCO or even market orders it becomes far less appealing. The reason it exists is because wardecs are so badly designed that groups of PvP players go after the easiest possible targets. You're effectively crying here because one-man corps and corps full of alts can get out of a wardec.
And your "bottom-line fact" is oversimplified. PvP does not mean "pew pew" so everybody from the miner to the WH pirate is already participating in PvP. The problem with wardecs isn't that the force PvP, it's that they force one groups particular style of PvP on another and that they discourage social activity. People laugh about the idea of peace-decs because they're such an absurd idea, yet they are exactly what wardecs are doing.
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NightmareX
Coreli Corporation
Mercenary Coalition
666
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Posted - 2015.08.04 10:25:31 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:I'm sure your terribly amateur videos show a lot of things, but people still don't want to watch them. Go back to shooting up industrial ships. There's absolutely no point talking to most wardec abusers about the wardec system since all you guys want is an easy ride.
Angry much?
I bet i hit the nail in your head with such a response 
Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:
1: Asteroid Madness
2: Clash of the Empires
3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
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Remiel Pollard
Black Hydra Consortium.
CODE.
6728
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Posted - 2015.08.04 10:29:46 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Until corp-rolling to avoid wardecs is solved, I have no sympathy for people that feel like a playstyle is being forced on them. None whatsoever, whether that claim is true or false, and your argument here does nothing to alter the bottom-line fact that people signing up to a PVP arena should do so expecting PVP. It is solved. Corp rolling only works for tiny corps with no shared assets. The moment you have a POS or a POCO or even market orders it becomes far less appealing. The reason it exists is because wardecs are so badly designed that groups of PvP players go after the easiest possible targets. You're effectively crying here because one-man corps and corps full of alts can get out of a wardec. And your "bottom-line fact" is oversimplified. PvP does not mean "pew pew" so everybody from the miner to the WH pirate is already participating in PvP. The problem with wardecs isn't that the force PvP, it's that they force one groups particular style of PvP on another and that they discourage social activity. People laugh about the idea of peace-decs because they're such an absurd idea, yet they are exactly what wardecs are doing.
As long as it's possible to do, in any way, it's not solved, sorry.
And I'm not oversimplifying anything. The moment you undock, you consent to PVP. That act of undocking is the consent. No one is forcing it on you because by virtue of undocking, you've agreed to it. So if you undock unprepared for combat, be it in an Enyo or a Mastadon or a Hulk, don't be surprised with the results of said combat.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
CODE.
13930
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Posted - 2015.08.04 11:03:48 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:There's absolutely no point talking to most wardec abusers about the wardec system since all you guys want is an easy ride.
No, that's you, who want to make highsec even more disgustingly safe than it already is.
Oh, and using the mechanic as intended is not "abuse" by even the most insane definition of the word.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Hans Bose
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.08.04 11:07:54 -
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I recently played some COD and I just wanted to collect medipacks, as I am a medic in-game. Still people tried to shoot me and killed me just for the lulz... I was completely defenceless! People should respect my playstyle! I just want to collect medipacks and heal my friends! I don't PvP! |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
1444
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Posted - 2015.08.04 11:12:02 -
[84] - Quote
Looks like we are already reaching the end of this thread, where Lucas is crying his carebear tears and everyone disagrees with his delusional perception of what is EVE. Just like all this other threads about increasing security in Highsec.
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6477
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Posted - 2015.08.04 11:14:29 -
[85] - Quote
NightmareX wrote:Angry much? I bet i hit the nail in your head with such a response Uh... no, you'll find it hard (see impossible) to anger me over a video game. I just came to the realisation a long time ago that any discussion with you is pretty much pointless, since you're ex-afterbirth.
Remiel Pollard wrote:As long as it's possible to do, in any way, it's not solved, sorry. Well then get used to it not being solved, since it's not going away. They aren't going to change something that only affects tiny corps just so you guys can more easily gank rookies. HTFU.
Remiel Pollard wrote:And I'm not oversimplifying anything. The moment you undock, you consent to PVP. That act of undocking is the consent. No one is forcing it on you because by virtue of undocking, you've agreed to it. So if you undock unprepared for combat, be it in an Enyo or a Mastadon or a Hulk, don't be surprised with the results of said combat. Yes, you are oversimplifying it. And yes, people can shoot you anywhere. That doesn't mean that mechanics that force you to play by someone else's rules are a good thing.
I get it mate, you want easy kills and you'll cry any time people suggest making the gameplay more challenging or involving for you and yo ilk. But wardecs are going to change. It's not an IF, it's a WHEN. You can choose to just sit there going "hurf blurf, undock is consent, NPC corps should die, I want to gank noobs" all day long if you want, but that's not going to help you out when CCP nuke the mechanics.
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Kiandoshia
Applied Anarchy
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2315
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Posted - 2015.08.04 11:17:06 -
[86] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:New Eden is a PVP arena. The whole game. But PvP involves more than "pew pew" and what wardecs currently do is allow one group to force their style of PvP on another. They are mass abused by groups wanting to farm easy kills. All they do is add arbitrary limits on the size and playstyle choice of highsec corporations who aren't specifically designed around wars. That's why groups like red-frog operate though NPC alts. It's incredibly stupid that being in a group would offer so much of a disadvantage in a game with such strong social aspects. Until corp-rolling to avoid wardecs is solved, I have no sympathy for people that feel like a playstyle is being forced on them. None whatsoever, whether that claim is true or false, and your argument here does nothing to alter the bottom-line fact that people signing up to a PVP arena should do so expecting PVP.
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NightmareX
Coreli Corporation
Mercenary Coalition
668
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Posted - 2015.08.04 11:17:47 -
[87] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:NightmareX wrote:Angry much? I bet i hit the nail in your head with such a response Uh... no, you'll find it hard (see impossible) to anger me over a video game. I just came to the realisation a long time ago that any discussion with you is pretty much pointless, since you're ex-afterbirth.
I'm ex-Rebirth and proud of that. But keep on hatin bro.
But yes, you was angry because you was trolling like it was no tomorrow with the response you had, like you do now aswell.
Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:
1: Asteroid Madness
2: Clash of the Empires
3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6477
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Posted - 2015.08.04 11:22:01 -
[88] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:No, that's you, who want to make highsec even more disgustingly safe than it already is.
Oh, and using the mechanic as intended is not "abuse" by even the most insane definition of the word. LOL
Key part of that: "as intended". I don't think they intended wardecs to be used to mass farm noobs and industrial ships with ease, nor to make decently sized non-wardec corps extinct in highsec.
And mate, don't give me all that "disgustingly safe" bullcrap. You're a ganker. That's some of the most risk averse carebear rubbish you can get.
Ima Wreckyou wrote:Looks like we are already reaching the end of this thread, where Lucas is crying his carebear tears and everyone disagrees with his delusional perception of what is EVE. Just like all this other threads about increasing security in Highsec. You're far more of a carebear than I'll ever be. This appears to be that middle part of the thread, where all the little CODE guys call in all their friends to throw insults about and derail the thread. The ISDs will come and throw some deletes about then you'll go back to C&P fapping over iteron kills.
That said, it's quite likely this will get closed for redundancy too.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6477
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Posted - 2015.08.04 11:23:06 -
[89] - Quote
NightmareX wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:NightmareX wrote:Angry much? I bet i hit the nail in your head with such a response Uh... no, you'll find it hard (see impossible) to anger me over a video game. I just came to the realisation a long time ago that any discussion with you is pretty much pointless, since you're ex-afterbirth. I'm ex-Rebirth and proud of that. But keep on hatin bro. But yes, you was angry because you was trolling like it was no tomorrow with the response you had, like you do now aswell. Ex what? Afterbirth was it? Nobody cares.
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NightmareX
Coreli Corporation
Mercenary Coalition
668
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Posted - 2015.08.04 11:25:49 -
[90] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Ex what? Afterbirth was it? Nobody cares.
Maybe you need glasses, but it's called Rebirth. incase you are blind.
Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:
1: Asteroid Madness
2: Clash of the Empires
3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
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