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Brutus Utama Fusion Enterprises Ltd Phoenix Company Alliance 54	Posted - 2015.08.06 10:58:59 - [31] - Quote If your unable to defend yourself mining in low sec you shouldnt do it... low sec is more dangerous than Nullsec for mining... no point in using prospects to mine your losing isk... Solution: Use a Deepspace Transport as your hauler (90k Hauling) +2 Warp core Strength and huge Tank (for a hauler) can fit yourself a prototype cloak in the highs and cloak inbetween collecting ores.... then have an orca pilot sat on the undock of the system your in... if he gets attacked just dock him up.... Your biggest problem is using Prospects/Ventures.... Swap them out for Procurers/Skiffs or you will still be using a huge amount of income even mining low sec ores.... if you want to use prospects then your losing isk and may aswell head back to highsec and mine an exhumer mines atleast 2-3x the ore of the mining frigates... as said before if you want higher reward go into WH's in your ventures... But adding a new ship just for you wont happen especially one thats OP.
Gully Alex Foyle Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop 4052	Posted - 2015.08.06 11:39:32 - [32] - Quote Maybe make one mineral exclusive to lowsec ore(s)? That should seriously drive up demand/value. Mining in lowsec can be fun, whether it's ninja or organized ops with PVP gangs on close call (or your PVP alt close by). But it's mostly pointless atm given that you can get the same minerals from ore in more secure space. I know a few guys who occasionally mine, but in 2 years roaming lowsec I picked up on dscan maybe 10 ventures and just about zero barges/exhumers. Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Brutus Utama Fusion Enterprises Ltd Phoenix Company Alliance 54	Posted - 2015.08.06 11:45:37 - [33] - Quote making an ore only available in Lowsec is a bad move... CCP just recently changed Ores in null to make them self sufficient so if you added 1 to low that you couldnt get anywhere then what was the point in changing the nullsec ores?
Gully Alex Foyle Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop 4052	Posted - 2015.08.06 12:02:01 - [34] - Quote Brutus Utama wrote: making an ore only available in Lowsec is a bad move... CCP just recently changed Ores in null to make them self sufficient so if you added 1 to low that you couldnt get anywhere then what was the point in changing the nullsec ores? I have no idea, mate. Though it wouldn't even need to be exclusive: just playing around with the abundance/rarity of the minerals in the ores could have the same effect (increase value of lowsec ore). But anyway, it's different objectives. Null is about creating organized industrial activity. Lowsec would be the ideal place to create fun industrial activity. Fun = pew pew. Just look at dotlan ship/pod kills 24h in Black Rise vs. any nullsec region. You'll see much more PVP activity, and distributed in most systems. The ideal place for some more 'thrilling' and engaging rock-munching, if it wasn't so pointless profit-wise. Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
bumblesquat Paragon Trust The Bastion 0	Posted - 2015.08.06 12:05:21 - [35] - Quote I think you're asking too much. They brought out the prospect to help with with this problem already. It's a frigate. It aligns and warps quickly. If you want more, then you need to invest more. Similarly with any other sort of isk making. I cant just take a frigate into a lvl 4, then complain that they need to bring out a better frigate so i can more make money. You've got exhumers to get better isk efficiently and you can fit a tank on them so you don't need to worry about the rats. I'd suggest joining a mining corp that actively defends it's miners. I mean, if you look at highsec, 'Concord looks after you'. Nullsec, your alliance looks after you.
Oleim Wakrubau Zehl'es 0	Posted - 2015.08.06 13:06:20 - [36] - Quote The OP has some merit I think. There is something to be said for a pocket Orca that is about one third the size and serves a similar set of functions as a command link booster, ore hold, and basic additional defense for a small group of mining frigates. Since we're talking about a tech I ship base it on the same tenants used to birth the Venture. A lightweight industrial ship with a moderate ore hold, say 20k. If you're feeling generous give it the very low signature radius and built in +2 warp strength. This way it still requires you to be situationally aware to keep it safe and alive. Give it modest tech I hauler fitting options allowing for an ok tank and some utility. Adding mobile fitting abilities allowing group members to refit on the fly in case there is a need to say change from ore to gas mining would be a definite plus, but not a necessity. A drone bay allowing for a flight of un-bonused medium drones for defense. Finally the ability to carry one command link allows it to directly contribute to a mining fleet's bottom line. There is the strong argument that one could use a deep space transport or even a Miasmos to fill at least part of this task, but neither ship is very maneuverable or stealthy and are not well suited to keeping up with a Venture gang. The main way to survive in low-sec, and why the Venture is successfully able to survive there, is mobility. Creating a more mobile ore transport to support the Venture does not seem unreasonable. The Prospect I think is a good ship, but only a tangential upgrade to the Venture. Without the Venture's drone bay you're left with the choice of tanking NPCs or moving. I think not having the option to kill basic low-sec NPCs is a significant disadvantage that is perhaps unfairly hindering the Prospect.
Derath Ellecon Blue Sun Exploration Situation: Normal 2393	Posted - 2015.08.06 22:44:19 - [37] - Quote They already have what you want. It's called a Rorqual, and it fits the Ninja style perfectly. Take one pilot in a Blockade runner, with a small tower and fuel. Find an empty system you want to mine in for awhile. Setup tower. Jump in rorqual, loaded with your mining ships etc. Rorqual boosts and compresses while you mine. Nobody in the short term is likely to siege your small tower. It is just there to put a shield around the rorqual. If by bad luck someone does decide to jump all over you while you are mining, load the rorqual back up. undock cyno in the nearest station system, jump out dock up, everyone flies home. If nobody bothers you, basically do the same thing in reverse. Jump the rorqual to safety, pack up tower, wash rinse repeat.

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