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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1513
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Posted - 2015.08.05 00:46:24 -
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To all the citizens, lurkers, Content Creators and ALT's of C&P
I need your help. There is a newbro corp called Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation with as many if not more then 300 brand new subs that is living on an island in Aridia. Most of you know about it. For those that don't a streamer has come to eve and brought a bunch of fresh meat Newbros with him. I have been taking them on fleets as much as possible into LS and against the wt's that plague them (which I fully endorse because there is no bad content). I need help though there are not enough fleets going out for the 150 online players most under 2 weeks old. Anybody with a spare ALT app to corp (they accept all apps) and start teaching them PvP, Ninjaing, Wardec survival (not corp rolling that **** is bad ) and any other content you can think of.
At this point in time they don't seem to have any rules so get to these newbies and show them eve from your persepctives. Not all will like it but these are the potential future baiters, flippers, wardeccers, dedicated mission runners and nullsec fleet commanders. Personally I am providing 1mil isk fit frigs for ls roams and wt hunting atm and I try to do at least a fleet a day. If 5 more people did this imagine how many could be retained. Oh you will not agree with 99.9% of the ceo and 2ic's ideas. Don't tell them they are terrible ideas that won't work just do your own thing and provide as much content as you can manage for any who are willing to come with you 
PS I was so proud today the stary eyed newbies who a week before got their first taste of blood killed a blingy stratios today while I was in bed 
 
A special shout out to all the wardeccers who have been bringing things for them to kill instead of crazy **** that they can't
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Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
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Mag's
the united
19963
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Posted - 2015.08.05 01:00:28 -
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I'm working 12 hour nights atm, but will help them with an ISK donation.
I'll be in touch bud, as mail doesn't work on the phone.
Destination SkillQueue:-
It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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Damnskippy
Mad Bombers Hashashin Cartel
72
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Posted - 2015.08.05 01:00:30 -
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I don't have an alt to insert, but next time i'm online I'll throw you some cash to get 100 or so fit t1 frigs. 
Good luck. I truly hope you are wildly successful at showing them the most entertaining side of Eve ...freedom.
Fake edit: If they swing by minnie lowsec space I promise to shoot back. |

Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1516
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Posted - 2015.08.05 01:08:14 -
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Do not throw isk at the corp. He gets 1 plex for every sub due to a buddy link and the corp at this point in time is not handing out ships. If time isn't your thing isk sent to Trosken Neirfallas will go to buying more t1 fit ships for them if you really really want but I'd rather time if you have it to spare :P
Not fake edit: More ideally we could work on some fits and get them shipped in by rff or something because being on a hs island in aridia its a nightmare getting the bits for the ships atm 
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Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
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pushdogg
Tell Your Mum To Call Me Cruis3rs Cr3w
50
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Posted - 2015.08.05 01:10:25 -
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+1, I need some alt fun. |

Leto Thule
Origin. Black Legion.
3176
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Posted - 2015.08.05 01:45:13 -
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I'm game.
Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
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Damnskippy
Mad Bombers Hashashin Cartel
73
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Posted - 2015.08.05 02:21:18 -
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I just contracted over 25 frigs for each race and sent some cash for fittings. Hopefully hek isnt too far away. |

Mobadder Thworst
Noob Farmers Bad Neighbors.
542
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Posted - 2015.08.05 02:57:26 -
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I'm off tomorrow, I'll try to come down and let them light me up.
Also, if you aim to teach, I can post up the tutorial on pvp I used to use for training. Mo |

Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1519
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Posted - 2015.08.05 03:16:15 -
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Mobadder Thworst wrote:I'm off tomorrow, I'll try to come down and let them light me up.
Also, if you aim to teach, I can post up the tutorial on pvp I used to use for training. Mo The leadership doesn't take to kindly to such things. I highly recommend if you make it out here you post it 
 
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Razielkh
Intelligence Operation NetCorp Khaos Legion
23
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Posted - 2015.08.05 03:37:33 -
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Yes, throw your alts in the corporation so your alliance and the rest of the vultures can pad their killboards and farm newbros for kills. If you truly cared about new players coming to EVE and making content for all of us on the long run, you would do something about the swarm of decs they got from the merc community and "PVP" groups.
What's happening now is loads of new people coming to eve, trying out some fleet fights without any knowledge of the basic game mechanics, proper FCing and/or proper skills/fits and getting killed left and right as soon as they undock. My guess is that more than half of them will not stick with EVE, as they are not allowed to make any progress, try different aspects of EVE, grow with skills points, make some isk, explore their options, etc.
Kudos to Arumba for bringing hundreds of new players to EVE, which sadly will not stay for long, but for everyone else, stop being such effin' hypocrites. |

Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2345
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Posted - 2015.08.05 03:43:13 -
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Wow. If you pulled the stick out it might help a great deal with that raging infection. These guys are trying to HELP.
You are doing what?
Edit: I also have an alt in said corporation, and look forward to getting some fleet action going on for some pew training of the nooblets. Showing them how to survive is not griefing them, it's the opposite.
Also, if even half of them stay it would be far beyond the statistical average for new player retention. Most of the time it's closer to 10% that stay. If by getting them involved that number improves then it's a win for everyone.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
169
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Posted - 2015.08.05 03:48:01 -
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Razielkh wrote:Yes, throw your alts in the corporation so your alliance and the rest of the vultures can pad their killboards and farm newbros for kills. If you truly cared about new players coming to EVE and making content for all of us on the long run, you would do something about the swarm of decs they got from the merc community and "PVP" groups.
What's happening now is loads of new people coming to eve, trying out some fleet fights without any knowledge of the basic game mechanics, proper FCing and/or proper skills/fits and getting killed left and right as soon as they undock. My guess is that more than half of them will not stick with EVE, as they are not allowed to make any progress, try different aspects of EVE, grow with skills points, make some isk, explore their options, etc.
Kudos to Arumba for bringing hundreds of new players to EVE, which sadly will not stay for long, but for everyone else, stop being such effin' hypocrites.
Oh grow up. Its the same in any game these days. Try doing wow leveling BGs as a "newbro" enjoy being one shotted by the twinks with 5 times your health pool. Or go join a CS server if you never played before and enjoy getting head shotted 20 times in a row. Or maybe you want to try a moba? yeah go join league and complain about getting wrecked and how your team insults you for playing poorly.
Any new player to any game should expect a learning curve, if they don't they are naive. These guys if they survive will love this game. If you want to increase the survivabilty rate why not spend a bit of time showing them how instead of making futile forum gesture appealing to the better nature of my cold dark soul?
Will gank for food
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Razielkh
Intelligence Operation NetCorp Khaos Legion
23
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Posted - 2015.08.05 03:57:07 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:Wow. If you pulled the stick out it might help a great deal with that raging infection. These guys are trying to HELP.
You are doing what?
Edit: I also have an alt in said corporation, and look forward to getting some fleet action going on for some pew training of the nooblets. Showing them how to survive is not griefing them, it's the opposite.
My reply was mainly aimed at the OP, as his alliance keeps the corp in question under constant dec for several known reasons, and now he is trying to get more members to "help".
As for I am doing? KHAOS offered to defend them from any dec for free until they can get a bit more established. They never took up on that offer, which I respect, as they want to fight their own fights.
You have alt there, good. They need all the help they can get, as long as you are not "part" of their corporation while your main corporation is farming them.
Also, no raging infection here, just harsh reality.  |

Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2346
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Posted - 2015.08.05 04:10:47 -
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Thing is the OP is trying to help teach some of their newbros how to be better at dealing with their wars. Not by farming them, but by taking them out and getting them some practice so that when they do sally forth at least some of them will have a better idea as to what they're doing.
It's a 'save the children' movement, but instead of protecting them the idea is to enable them to protect themselves. I'm glad that your alliance has offered to ally in on their decs, that's pretty decent of you. I'd recommend that due to their reticence on taking up that offer that you join the others in this initiative. Have some fun and help them have some as well.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
13939
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Posted - 2015.08.05 04:16:34 -
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Razielkh wrote:My guess is that more than half of them will not stick with EVE
And that would still be much higher retention than mining.
Cry more about how people are engaging in real content.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Razielkh
Intelligence Operation NetCorp Khaos Legion
23
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Posted - 2015.08.05 04:25:28 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Razielkh wrote:My guess is that more than half of them will not stick with EVE
And that would still be much higher retention than mining. Cry more about how people are engaging in real content.
Hush codie, no one is crying here, I am not one of your ganked miners that you harass for tears collection.
Yes I agree, placing them in action and pvp rather than letting them bore themselves to death mining is much better. All I am saying is give them some slack. A moment to breathe, catch their breath, etc. Stomping them until the fall apart as soon as they started playing and making content leads nowhere. Think about the longer run, that's all.
Maybe I am just crazy thinking that EVE could use more players...  |

Leto Thule
Origin. Black Legion.
3178
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Posted - 2015.08.05 04:31:52 -
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Razielkh wrote:Yes, throw your alts in the corporation so your alliance and the rest of the vultures can pad their killboards and farm newbros for kills. If you truly cared about new players coming to EVE and making content for all of us on the long run, you would do something about the swarm of decs they got from the merc community and "PVP" groups.
What's happening now is loads of new people coming to eve, trying out some fleet fights without any knowledge of the basic game mechanics, proper FCing and/or proper skills/fits and getting killed left and right as soon as they undock. My guess is that more than half of them will not stick with EVE, as they are not allowed to make any progress, try different aspects of EVE, grow with skills points, make some isk, explore their options, etc.
Kudos to Arumba for bringing hundreds of new players to EVE, which sadly will not stay for long, but for everyone else, stop being such effin' hypocrites.
You are a bad person and bad things will happen to you. In game, of course :)
Well, maybe.
But really, stop being an asshat. Yes, most won't stay. But not because of any reasons you listed... EVE simply isn't a game for easymode types. Many will quit.
But many will stay, too. Whatever content they are dealing with at the moment is much better than running missions or freakin mining. You do the best in EVE when you start seeing pve as a means to pvp.... Not simply to make ISK for the sake of it. I'm going to drop an alt in. Maybe FC a few frig roams. Maybe show them how to fit with lower SP. Maybe guide a few into a training plan to get into their first AF....
Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
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Razielkh
Intelligence Operation NetCorp Khaos Legion
23
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Posted - 2015.08.05 04:46:19 -
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Leto Thule wrote: You are a bad person and bad things will happen to you. In game, of course :)
Well, maybe.
But really, stop being an asshat. Yes, most won't stay. But not because of any reasons you listed... EVE simply isn't a game for easymode types. Many will quit.
But many will stay, too. Whatever content they are dealing with at the moment is much better than running missions or freakin mining. You do the best in EVE when you start seeing pve as a means to pvp.... Not simply to make ISK for the sake of it. I'm going to drop an alt in. Maybe FC a few frig roams. Maybe show them how to fit with lower SP. Maybe guide a few into a training plan to get into their first AF....
I know I am a bad person ( in game, of course ), I kill people for money, and a lot of other things we shouldn't discuss in public. 
I agree with everything you said. 100%, and you helping them will mean a lot to the newbros. As Omar said, teaching them how to protect themselves rather than protecting them is better for the long run. No discussion there.
As long as you are not the one killing them and trying to help them at the same time, like the OP. Hence my whole reply about hypocrisy.  |

Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
169
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Posted - 2015.08.05 04:51:30 -
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Razielkh wrote:Leto Thule wrote: You are a bad person and bad things will happen to you. In game, of course :)
Well, maybe.
But really, stop being an asshat. Yes, most won't stay. But not because of any reasons you listed... EVE simply isn't a game for easymode types. Many will quit.
But many will stay, too. Whatever content they are dealing with at the moment is much better than running missions or freakin mining. You do the best in EVE when you start seeing pve as a means to pvp.... Not simply to make ISK for the sake of it. I'm going to drop an alt in. Maybe FC a few frig roams. Maybe show them how to fit with lower SP. Maybe guide a few into a training plan to get into their first AF....
I know I am a bad person ( in game, of course ), I kill people for money, and a lot of other things we shouldn't discuss in public.  I agree with everything you said. 100%, and you helping them will mean a lot to the newbros. As Omar said, teaching them how to protect themselves rather than protecting them is better for the long run. No discussion there. As long as you are not the one killing them and trying to help them at the same time, like the OP. Hence my whole reply about hypocrisy. 
you said: "What's happening now is loads of new people coming to eve, trying out some fleet fights without any knowledge of the basic game mechanics, proper FCing and/or proper skills/fits and getting killed left and right as soon as they undock."
Op says hey guys lets help these new bros find their way. Whats hypocritical about shooting at them while offering them advise? The best way to learn is by doing...
Will gank for food
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Razielkh
Intelligence Operation NetCorp Khaos Legion
23
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Posted - 2015.08.05 05:00:44 -
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Tarojan wrote:
Op says hey guys lets help these new bros find their way. Whats hypocritical about shooting at them while offering them advise? The best way to learn is by doing...
You are so cute and na+»ve. May I lick you?  |

Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
169
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Posted - 2015.08.05 05:13:48 -
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Razielkh wrote:Tarojan wrote:
Op says hey guys lets help these new bros find their way. Whats hypocritical about shooting at them while offering them advise? The best way to learn is by doing...
You are so cute and na+»ve. May I lick you? 
Depends. Do you like raspberries and are you allergic to nuts?
Will gank for food
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Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
565
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Posted - 2015.08.05 05:23:28 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Do not throw isk at the corp. He gets 1 plex for every sub due to a buddy link and the corp at this point in time is not handing out ships. If time isn't your thing isk sent to Trosken Neirfallas will go to buying more t1 fit ships for them if you really really want but I'd rather time if you have it to spare :P Not fake edit: More ideally we could work on some fits and get them shipped in by rff or something because being on a hs island in aridia its a nightmare getting the bits for the ships atm 
Hull tanked railgun catalysts and Derptrons (basically Atrons built around an MSE) have worked out well for Galmil.
Just remember to bring antimatter AND iron for the battalysts.
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pushdogg
Tell Your Mum To Call Me Cruis3rs Cr3w
50
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Posted - 2015.08.05 05:38:09 -
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Razielkh wrote:Yes, throw your alts in the corporation so your alliance and the rest of the vultures can pad their killboards and farm newbros for kills. If you truly cared about new players coming to EVE and making content for all of us on the long run, you would do something about the swarm of decs they got from the merc community and "PVP" groups.
What's happening now is loads of new people coming to eve, trying out some fleet fights without any knowledge of the basic game mechanics, proper FCing and/or proper skills/fits and getting killed left and right as soon as they undock. My guess is that more than half of them will not stick with EVE, as they are not allowed to make any progress, try different aspects of EVE, grow with skills points, make some isk, explore their options, etc.
Kudos to Arumba for bringing hundreds of new players to EVE, which sadly will not stay for long, but for everyone else, stop being such effin' hypocrites.
Either way.....content for everyone. Which is why I play.....and probably why they play. |

Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1520
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Posted - 2015.08.05 06:35:10 -
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Razielkh wrote:Yes, throw your alts in the corporation so your alliance and the rest of the vultures can pad their killboards and farm newbros for kills. If you truly cared about new players coming to EVE and making content for all of us on the long run, you would do something about the swarm of decs they got from the merc community and "PVP" groups.
What's happening now is loads of new people coming to eve, trying out some fleet fights without any knowledge of the basic game mechanics, proper FCing and/or proper skills/fits and getting killed left and right as soon as they undock. My guess is that more than half of them will not stick with EVE, as they are not allowed to make any progress, try different aspects of EVE, grow with skills points, make some isk, explore their options, etc.
Kudos to Arumba for bringing hundreds of new players to EVE, which sadly will not stay for long, but for everyone else, stop being such effin' hypocrites. have you see how many decs have been dropped 
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1520
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Posted - 2015.08.05 07:09:58 -
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So this devolved quickly. Trosken Neirfallas and Noragen Neirfallas my 2 main PvPers. I would like you too look at thier killboards for the last week and tell me if A you notice more or less kills on the newbros happening in the last week and B if I appear to be actively doing anything to help one side or the other.
I am providing as much PvP content through leading fleets and handing out free ships (I got a dreaded goon helping me produce and haul them atm huzar for goons ) to go and die in and maybe take somebody with them. The guys I've been taking killed a 1.5bil stratios today while I was asleep. I was so proud of them it was awesome and 2 used my free ships from the roam about 8-12 hours before the kill. Thanks Mags, Skippy and an anonymous doner for the donations so far Totaling to 550 mil isk and 200 frigates 100 fitted 100 not. Also thanks to the JF pilots helping the corp with cost price jumps to the island atm. Every ship will be used to die in. They may kill other ships too with luck but my only goal is newbies having fun and subbing. Anybody who doubts this get a toon into the corp and come on a fleet. They need as many people generating content for groups of corpies as possible. I can do lowsec roams and anti wardec fleets. If you want to show them nullsec or other aspects of eve (while the CEO isn't trying to organize content of course) then do it. Just remember the leadership is very proud and doesn't take criticism well so only offer advice to them when asked. otherwise just help the newbros 
PS Marmite tried to kill my Fred main today 
PSS Razielkh I challenge you to do more for the newbros corp then me or anybody else. Get in corp and get a helping 
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
13950
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Posted - 2015.08.05 07:27:43 -
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Razielkh wrote: Yes I agree, placing them in action and pvp rather than letting them bore themselves to death mining is much better.
One wonders where all your bitching is coming from, then. Apparently taking steps towards helping them is bad, and we should just get our hats in our hands and ask the people deccing them, with our eyes full of tears, to please leave those guys alone? Or what? Because aside from bitching about what other people are doing, I can't figure out what it is you're actually trying to say.
Quote:All I am saying is give them some slack. A moment to breathe, catch their breath, etc. Stomping them until they fall apart as soon as they started playing and making content leads nowhere. Think about the longer run, that's all. Maybe I am just crazy thinking that EVE could use more players... 
Then quit complaining about what other people are doing, and do something yourself.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1521
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Posted - 2015.08.05 07:44:45 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Do not throw isk at the corp. He gets 1 plex for every sub due to a buddy link and the corp at this point in time is not handing out ships. If time isn't your thing isk sent to Trosken Neirfallas will go to buying more t1 fit ships for them if you really really want but I'd rather time if you have it to spare :P Not fake edit: More ideally we could work on some fits and get them shipped in by rff or something because being on a hs island in aridia its a nightmare getting the bits for the ships atm  Hull tanked railgun catalysts and Derptrons (basically Atrons built around an MSE) have worked out well for Galmil. Just remember to bring antimatter AND iron for the battalysts. I'd be happy with them training a couple of core skills up and utilizing the t1 stuff well first 
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
13952
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Posted - 2015.08.05 07:50:42 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Do not throw isk at the corp. He gets 1 plex for every sub due to a buddy link and the corp at this point in time is not handing out ships. If time isn't your thing isk sent to Trosken Neirfallas will go to buying more t1 fit ships for them if you really really want but I'd rather time if you have it to spare :P Not fake edit: More ideally we could work on some fits and get them shipped in by rff or something because being on a hs island in aridia its a nightmare getting the bits for the ships atm  Hull tanked railgun catalysts and Derptrons (basically Atrons built around an MSE) have worked out well for Galmil. Just remember to bring antimatter AND iron for the battalysts. I'd be happy with them training a couple of core skills up and utilizing the t1 stuff well first 
I gave them some advice when they asked about it on reddit a week or so ago, but I did not follow up.
Did they ever start training a group to use ewar? That would be a good move on their part, since it's a force multiplier that is both non-dependent on huge amounts of skillpoints, and is scales well with numbers.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Don Purple
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1275
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Posted - 2015.08.05 07:58:48 -
[29] - Quote
Oh my. This may be entertaining.
I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1521
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Posted - 2015.08.05 08:07:57 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Do not throw isk at the corp. He gets 1 plex for every sub due to a buddy link and the corp at this point in time is not handing out ships. If time isn't your thing isk sent to Trosken Neirfallas will go to buying more t1 fit ships for them if you really really want but I'd rather time if you have it to spare :P Not fake edit: More ideally we could work on some fits and get them shipped in by rff or something because being on a hs island in aridia its a nightmare getting the bits for the ships atm  Hull tanked railgun catalysts and Derptrons (basically Atrons built around an MSE) have worked out well for Galmil. Just remember to bring antimatter AND iron for the battalysts. I'd be happy with them training a couple of core skills up and utilizing the t1 stuff well first  I gave them some advice when they asked about it on reddit a week or so ago, but I did not follow up. Did they ever start training a group to use ewar? That would be a good move on their part, since it's a force multiplier that is both non-dependent on huge amounts of skillpoints, and is scales well with numbers. Their is no real direction ATM or organized content. Hence this thread. They don't take the usual criticism we give out and the way we do it. I've stayed out of that and focus on content providing instead.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1521
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Posted - 2015.08.05 08:09:35 -
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Don Purple wrote:Oh my. This may be entertaining. I've fleeted with you don. You got more ALTs then I've eaten hot meals too . Come teach your snuggly ways
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Kooshti
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.08.05 08:18:27 -
[32] - Quote
hats off for caring about the newbies  |

Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2015.08.05 08:32:02 -
[33] - Quote
You're teaching them to make friends and organize things. These are extremely important. Somewhere they need to learn how far they can trust people in this game, and with what. Better they learn that now with cheap things than later with expensive ones.
Another really important thing I can see is to teach them how to analyze things for themselves and theorycraft without just Googling stuff. You'd be surprised how many people think Google is a substitute for being able to actually pick apart and sort through data and learn at least basic mechanics.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1522
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Posted - 2015.08.05 08:48:06 -
[34] - Quote
Well the best part about my fleets is trust ins't an issue since i provide the ships anyways 
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2352
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Posted - 2015.08.05 08:50:01 -
[35] - Quote
Weirdest corp infiltration ever. It's like breaking into someone's house when they're not home and doing their dishes and laundry, then cleaning the place up without stealing anything.
I approve.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
13954
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Posted - 2015.08.05 11:46:33 -
[36] - Quote
Omar Alharazaad wrote:Weirdest corp infiltration ever. It's like breaking into someone's house when they're not home and doing their dishes and laundry, then cleaning the place up without stealing anything.
I approve.
When I lived in Las Vegas, there was actually a burglar that would do this, and all they would take is eggs, bread, and milk. For some reason I will never understand, the cops nicknamed this person "The Tooth Fairy".
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Mobadder Thworst
Noob Farmers Bad Neighbors.
544
|
Posted - 2015.08.05 11:53:46 -
[37] - Quote
From this thread I have learned:
Noragen is like the tooth fairy of Las Vegas.
But he still has it together in his head better than Raz.
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1354
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Posted - 2015.08.05 11:55:05 -
[38] - Quote
Remember, nothing says I love you like a killmail.

Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1524
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Posted - 2015.08.05 13:04:41 -
[39] - Quote
They have more then enough people to kill them though atm. Until it becomes a contract or Tora points at the island and says CRUSH I will keep to the helping and not the hunting . But yeah CCP got it right  
 
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Razielkh
Intelligence Operation NetCorp Khaos Legion
23
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Posted - 2015.08.05 15:17:42 -
[40] - Quote
Mobadder Thworst wrote:From this thread I have learned:
Noragen is like the tooth fairy of Las Vegas.
But he still has it together in his head better than Raz.
Thought you already knew that from before. My head is twisted by all the chaos we make. 
If Noragen is really trying to help them rather then gather the masses for the slaughter and kill padding, more power to him. Perhaps its in my nature to think that everyone has an agenda, over my better judgement.  |

Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
1975
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Posted - 2015.08.05 19:55:10 -
[41] - Quote
Noragen, do we need to join corp in order to assist in their learning? Would there be any benefit to having, say, my corp wardec them, let them throw themselves at me (and my alts) in their hisec island, and then provide feedback to them on their strengths and weaknesses in combat? In essence, I'd play the aggressor to your PvP school. I've done this before (albeit not under quite so noble of circumstances) and it's always proven useful.
Just a thought, and I have time this weekend.
Relatively Notorious By Association
My Many Misadventures
Inaugural C&P Thunderdome Champion
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1531
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Posted - 2015.08.06 00:12:22 -
[42] - Quote
Bronson Hughes wrote:Noragen, do we need to join corp in order to assist in their learning? Would there be any benefit to having, say, my corp wardec them, let them throw themselves at me (and my alts) in their hisec island, and then provide feedback to them on their strengths and weaknesses in combat? In essence, I'd play the aggressor to your PvP school. I've done this before (albeit not under quite so noble of circumstances) and it's always proven useful.
Just a thought, and I have time this weekend. I'd rather assistance from inside the corp but meh just don't bring cloaky camping crap and spend hours afk cause weaponized boredom sucks and I'd rather have them all sub before learning about structure bashes and cloaky campers 
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Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
565
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Posted - 2015.08.06 05:26:46 -
[43] - Quote
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Do not throw isk at the corp. He gets 1 plex for every sub due to a buddy link and the corp at this point in time is not handing out ships. If time isn't your thing isk sent to Trosken Neirfallas will go to buying more t1 fit ships for them if you really really want but I'd rather time if you have it to spare :P Not fake edit: More ideally we could work on some fits and get them shipped in by rff or something because being on a hs island in aridia its a nightmare getting the bits for the ships atm  Hull tanked railgun catalysts and Derptrons (basically Atrons built around an MSE) have worked out well for Galmil. Just remember to bring antimatter AND iron for the battalysts. I'd be happy with them training a couple of core skills up and utilizing the t1 stuff well first 
Those are both low SP dependent meta 1/2/3 fits designed to be handed out to the peasants during system fights.
Both run about 2M per ship and the fits are fairly self explanatory.
3x hull rig, 8x 150mm rails, MWD sebo DCU and mag stabs for the catalyst. MSE MWD and blasters on the atrons, requires a power core and then just slap on whatever additional bells and whistles you can. A blob of 6K EHP, 120 DPS frigates (with low skills) doing 4k m/s has its uses.
Meta fit kite tristans are nice too. No smartbombs in highsec, a cloud of 100 T1 light drones will hurt. |

Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1540
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Posted - 2015.08.06 06:07:43 -
[44] - Quote
I don't know why but I read that as captors... my bad. Currently I hand out 1mil isk fit fast tackle from each race. We are working on a few more fits. I'll throw cats in soon although they are all being paid for off loot and donations ATM. I have a very special goon helping me produce hulls and haul mods so far for free. Come take them to FAC warfare zones for a few weeks Demerius Xenocratus
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Don Purple
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1277
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Posted - 2015.08.06 07:49:13 -
[45] - Quote
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Don Purple wrote:Oh my. This may be entertaining. I've fleeted with you don. You got more ALTs then I've eaten hot meals too  . Come teach your snuggly ways  My last count was 32 pilots with +10mp I think I have a problem. Ganking is my flavor of the month and I have a few active jobs. Ill join them if I find the time :D
I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
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Razsius Luine
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation
0
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Posted - 2015.08.06 08:41:54 -
[46] - Quote
Spais! Spais! Everywhere!
Quote:So this devolved quickly. Trosken Neirfallas and Noragen Neirfallas my 2 main PvPers. I would like you too look at thier killboards for the last week and tell me if A you notice more or less kills on the newbros happening in the last week and B if I appear to be actively doing anything to help one side or the other.
Really!? Trosken's Raiders is lead by a Marmite? It figures... *mouths a swear word*. Wth do I tell my corp now? Do I even bother to tell them? 
So now that we've established that every player with any experience at all in the corp is a "representative" of likely every major eve alliance/corp where do I go from here. I do admit i'm rather happy when there's reds in our island. The miners generally aren't but I sure as hell am and I will admit in the incredibly short amount of time i've been in the corp i've learned a ton while having an absolute blast.
So the real question Trosken is... where's my invite to your fleet? |

BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
The Scope Gallente Federation
1895
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Posted - 2015.08.06 08:46:51 -
[47] - Quote
So which corp should I join to maximize my chances of blowing stuff up?
Founder of Violet Squadron, a small gang NPSI community! Mail me for more information.
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
2640
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Posted - 2015.08.06 09:42:41 -
[48] - Quote
Keep up the good work Nora and the other alts we have inside the corp, that are trying to help out. Yes, we re shooting them in a war, but we re also helping them with answering questions in corp chat, helping build up the forums with good info, setting up fleets. We mailed alliance not to bring large T3 **** you up fleets to their HS island. Small ships are allowed as it makes their chance of winning much bigger. Getting km's on their site motivates them to get better. And we do more I cant tell about or their fantastic leadership will end it.
What you see is not always everything that is going on 
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
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Leto Thule
Origin. Black Legion.
3188
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Posted - 2015.08.06 12:57:57 -
[49] - Quote
I have paused my alt's carrier training plan. Should be in an assault frigate by next weekend, and I'll be joining the party.
Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2378
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Posted - 2015.08.06 12:59:37 -
[50] - Quote
There's a certain delightful irony when it turns out the 'bad' guys are actually the 'good' guys, and vice versa. I try to be aggressive without actually being hostile, which is something my geeky coworkers still struggle to wrap their heads around.
Glad to hear that Marmite's trying to bring good fights to these guys. They need them a great deal more than they need the T3 + Nestor fleets that PIRAT's been bringing for them lately. I still give the little guys props for not being completely daunted by those and dropping the swarms to counter.
TL;DR? everyone infiltrate and help show the little guys that they can swim, even if they have been unceremoniously dropped into the deep end of the pool. :P
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
1976
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Posted - 2015.08.06 14:02:14 -
[51] - Quote
Is it wrong that I now kinda want to both put an alt into this corp and wardec them so I can shoot at myself? 
Semi-kidding aside, after talking with Noragen last night I think I'm going to be opting join them instead of fighting. He's right, they have an abundance of stuff shooting at them, they need leadership from with not critiques from without.
And I'm not talking about an alt, I'd be joining myself. It's been too long since I've spread the good word of the Oh Blessed Mother to the uninitiated....
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My Many Misadventures
Inaugural C&P Thunderdome Champion
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2381
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Posted - 2015.08.06 14:06:23 -
[52] - Quote
I regret that I have but one like to give you good sir.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
2642
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Posted - 2015.08.06 14:10:54 -
[53] - Quote
Omar Alharazaad wrote:I regret that I have but one like to give you good sir. No worries, I gave him another one 
With Eve content, we all win.
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2381
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Posted - 2015.08.06 14:15:33 -
[54] - Quote
That's kinda my line of thought. We have a massive influx of newbros thanks to this guy. Without intervention most of them will leave once the moment has passed. For each one we manage to turn into a fuzzy little murder machine it's a win for the greater EVE community. This kind of initiation poses a real opportunity to turn them into content creators in their own right, rather than drones who simply level up their Ravens or nom rocks until they die of boredom.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
24522
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Posted - 2015.08.06 14:20:54 -
[55] - Quote
Cannibal Kane and Psychotic Monk would approve of this outreach program.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
13989
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Posted - 2015.08.06 14:23:41 -
[56] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Cannibal Kane and Psychotic Monk would approve of this outreach program.
And now you've gone and made me sad, knowing that such content creators are gone from our world.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2383
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Posted - 2015.08.06 14:58:33 -
[57] - Quote
Sad yes. However it just means that is our burden to carry on the bits of their legacy that each of us can. If there does come a day when I leave DWA I'm going to be sorely conflicted as to whether to head out to null to try and join Black Legion, or to go solo and try and emulate the Kane, albeit in a hairless and significantly more derpy fashion.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1549
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Posted - 2015.08.06 17:24:09 -
[58] - Quote
Razsius Luine wrote:Spais! Spais! Everywhere! Quote:So this devolved quickly. Trosken Neirfallas and Noragen Neirfallas my 2 main PvPers. I would like you too look at thier killboards for the last week and tell me if A you notice more or less kills on the newbros happening in the last week and B if I appear to be actively doing anything to help one side or the other. Really!? Trosken's Raiders is lead by a Marmite? It figures... *mouths a swear word*. Wth do I tell my corp now? Do I even bother to tell them?  So now that we've established that every player with any experience at all in the corp is a "representative" of likely every major eve alliance/corp where do I go from here. I do admit i'm rather happy when there's reds in our island. The miners generally aren't but I sure as hell am and I will admit in the incredibly short amount of time i've been in the corp i've learned a ton while having an absolute blast. So the real question Trosken is... where's my invite to your fleet? I'm shocked you didn't know. Everybody else does. I have full permission to eliminate marmites on the island this weekend so I can join y'all in glorious death . It has been almost 2 years since I shot at Marmite it's going to be fun
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Origin. Black Legion.
2400
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Posted - 2015.08.06 18:34:06 -
[59] - Quote
Omar Alharazaad wrote:.. If there does come a day when I leave DWA I'm going to be sorely conflicted as to whether to head out to null to try and join Black Legion... Machariel fleet....s'all I'm gonna say.
Oh man I am so hard right now just thinking about last nite...hnnnnggghh
F
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jack1974
Reikoku Pandemic Legion
35
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Posted - 2015.08.06 18:51:25 -
[60] - Quote
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:.. If there does come a day when I leave DWA I'm going to be sorely conflicted as to whether to head out to null to try and join Black Legion... Machariel fleet.... s'all I'm gonna say. Oh man I am so hard right now just thinking about last nite...hnnnnggghh
I've never seen that video before. Hmm |

Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Origin. Black Legion.
2401
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Posted - 2015.08.06 18:55:19 -
[61] - Quote
jack1974 wrote:Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:.. If there does come a day when I leave DWA I'm going to be sorely conflicted as to whether to head out to null to try and join Black Legion... Machariel fleet.... s'all I'm gonna say. Oh man I am so hard right now just thinking about last nite...hnnnnggghh I've never seen that video before.  Hmm The guys from DIX are freaking characters thats for sure.
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Tengu Grib
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
1293
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Posted - 2015.08.06 20:47:55 -
[62] - Quote
I'm game. I have an alt that's not too busy right now.
Special thanks to Carlvagio for being a cool bro and financing fun activities.
StonerPhReak> Being an adult sucks.
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Mobadder Thworst
Noob Farmers Bad Neighbors.
547
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Posted - 2015.08.07 02:15:10 -
[63] - Quote
Share this with the noobs... good starting point. |

Morgan Agrivar
Yamaguchi Holding LLC Dread Pirate Syndicate
50
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Posted - 2015.08.07 07:24:19 -
[64] - Quote
Donation sent to Noragen to help with the newbro corp. Good luck.
Morgan Agrivar Retired Gallente FW Maulus pilot
"Out of all the people who have tried to kill me, you are my favorite."
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Mobadder Thworst
Noob Farmers Bad Neighbors.
547
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Posted - 2015.08.07 11:20:04 -
[65] - Quote
Went down yesterday and let them shoot me up a bit.
Had the most fun I've had in Eve in ages... And I'm pretty sure they did too. Mo |

Domino Vyse
United Tactical Operations and Manufacturing United Systems of Aridia
227
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Posted - 2015.08.07 11:40:59 -
[66] - Quote
Just cleaned this corp out, including 120mil of T1 ships, conveniently in Aridia. Contract coming your way, Noragen.
Fly em like I stole em. |

Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
1983
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Posted - 2015.08.07 12:13:48 -
[67] - Quote
Domino Vyse wrote:Just cleaned this corp out, including 120mil of T1 ships, conveniently in Aridia. Contract coming your way, Noragen.
Fly em like I stole em.
EDIT- Just checked and there's 4 procurers there so you can either sell those or teach them the way of the battul barge Any Nereuses in there? Battle Nereus, best Nereus.
Relatively Notorious By Association
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Domino Vyse
United Tactical Operations and Manufacturing United Systems of Aridia
230
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Posted - 2015.08.07 12:43:34 -
[68] - Quote
Bronson Hughes wrote:Domino Vyse wrote:Just cleaned this corp out, including 120mil of T1 ships, conveniently in Aridia. Contract coming your way, Noragen.
Fly em like I stole em.
EDIT- Just checked and there's 4 procurers there so you can either sell those or teach them the way of the battul barge Any Nereuses in there? Battle Nereus, best Nereus.
'Fraid not. But there is a Primae haha |

Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1558
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Posted - 2015.08.07 12:46:54 -
[69] - Quote
Domino Vyse wrote:Just cleaned this corp out, including 120mil of T1 ships, conveniently in Aridia. Contract coming your way, Noragen.
Fly em like I stole em.
EDIT- Just checked and there's 4 procurers there so you can either sell those or teach them the way of the battul barge This made me laugh something shocking. Mmm bait procs to stock. Nomnomnom.
Thanks for the support guys and a special thanks to mo giving me a chance to teach the use of tag team tactics and range control today to 3 or 4 newbros till we had to sub out for a not quite so newbro and it was suddenly over. Nothing like practical experience. I dare say those 3 will have more of a grasp on wolf packing then most vets now 
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Mobadder Thworst
Noob Farmers Bad Neighbors.
549
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Posted - 2015.08.07 13:32:20 -
[70] - Quote
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Domino Vyse wrote:Just cleaned this corp out, including 120mil of T1 ships, conveniently in Aridia. Contract coming your way, Noragen.
Fly em like I stole em.
EDIT- Just checked and there's 4 procurers there so you can either sell those or teach them the way of the battul barge This made me laugh something shocking. Mmm bait procs to stock. Nomnomnom. Thanks for the support guys and a special thanks to mo giving me a chance to teach the use of tag team tactics and range control today to 3 or 4 newbros till we had to sub out for a not quite so newbro and it was suddenly over. Nothing like practical experience. I dare say those 3 will have more of a grasp on wolf packing then most vets now 
Next time I'm on I'll try to assemble something that requires a different strategy to kill.
That should keep it interesting.
I miss the days when t1 frigates were a normal boat for fighting. |

Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
2648
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Posted - 2015.08.07 14:57:00 -
[71] - Quote
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:I'm shocked you didn't know. Everybody else does. I have full permission to eliminate marmites on the island this weekend so I can join y'all in glorious death  . It has been almost 2 years since I shot at Marmite it's going to be fun You better not try to hard or I'll war dec you Nora 
With fun Eve content we all win ....
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1562
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Posted - 2015.08.07 15:07:39 -
[72] - Quote
Tora Bushido wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:I'm shocked you didn't know. Everybody else does. I have full permission to eliminate marmites on the island this weekend so I can join y'all in glorious death  . It has been almost 2 years since I shot at Marmite it's going to be fun You better not try to hard or I'll war dec you Nora  With fun Eve content we all win .... As bammax said 'well this is awkward'
And I never half heart anything. Keep the pods cheap . In all seriousness it's shaping up to be a good weekend with pizza apparently bringing a fleet and others possibly too. Maybe you should join this side for some cheap t1 fun tora 
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
1985
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Posted - 2015.08.07 17:18:59 -
[73] - Quote
Sadly, I will not be able to partake this weekend as planned due to "things". I still hope to make it out there eventually, in some capacity, if for no other reason than as a reminder as to why I frickin' hate Aridia. 
Relatively Notorious By Association
My Many Misadventures
Inaugural C&P Thunderdome Champion
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1573
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Posted - 2015.08.08 16:33:00 -
[74] - Quote
There was an issue with parsing this post's BBCode
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Mobadder Thworst
Noob Farmers Bad Neighbors.
551
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Posted - 2015.08.08 21:03:53 -
[75] - Quote
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
For the purpose of retaining my reputation, I'd like the following things to be said:
I only went down there to fight noobs because I can't hope to compete with anyone else.
I wasn't trying to help them or engage them in something fun, but rather attempting to eliminate the chance that they or their offspring will ever have an enjoyable experience on any MMO.
The ships I flew were as close to a T3 fleet as I could afford at the time.
Thank you, Mo |

Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
2649
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Posted - 2015.08.08 21:33:04 -
[76] - Quote
Terrible defeat by the evil Fredegars. Job well done. I see the guys had fun. 
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1573
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Posted - 2015.08.08 22:12:20 -
[77] - Quote
Tora Bushido wrote:Terrible defeat by the evil Fredegars. Job well done. I see the guys had fun.  And you guys brought everything you had at your disposal to rofl stomp noobs too. There are no more tanky, better dps or effective ships in the game for fighting hordes of newbros with a few experienced players thrown in...
No wait that's not what went down at all Marmite and FA brought out ships that could be killed with co-ordination. Props for giving us all a good start/end to the day (even if you did show up at 5:45am)
For those wondering
PS sorry for the headshot badman
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
2650
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Posted - 2015.08.08 22:27:27 -
[78] - Quote
What are you teaching these newbros Nora? That Eve should be fun and creating content is always a win, even if you lose ? Let me know how much I owe you for the SRP.
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
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Giaus Felix
Hedion University Amarr Empire
45
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Posted - 2015.08.08 22:28:01 -
[79] - Quote
This whole thread is a lie, everybody knows that wardec corps and their brethren prey on newbies for jollies and would never dream of doing something like this.
It's absolutely preposterous that you think you can pull the wool over our eyes in this manner. |

Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1574
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Posted - 2015.08.08 22:33:19 -
[80] - Quote
Tora Bushido wrote:What are you teaching these newbros Nora? That Eve should be fun and creating content is always a win, even if you lose ?  Let me know how much I owe you for the SRP. Nothing we only lost ships already provided by the good people of C&P or frigs and dessies that people fit themselves. Come teach a class or take a fleet hunting some of our wt's in solitude instead 
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
2651
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Posted - 2015.08.08 23:03:25 -
[81] - Quote
hehe, well have fun the next two weeks when I am gone and kill those damn evil war deccers. We'll probably end the war when I get back.
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1581
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Posted - 2015.08.09 03:41:39 -
[82] - Quote
Tora Bushido wrote:hehe, well have fun the next two weeks when I am gone and kill those damn evil war deccers. We'll probably end the war when I get back. Where you going?
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Esrange
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation
0
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Posted - 2015.08.09 19:59:50 -
[83] - Quote
I'm one of the new people in the corporation, I played for a bit a few years back and have just returned. Since I returned a few weeks back I've been having a blast and I just wanted to thank you all for it! You guys are awesome!  |

Domino Vyse
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
265
|
Posted - 2015.08.09 21:00:31 -
[84] - Quote
Esrange wrote:I'm one of the new people in the corporation, I played for a bit a few years back and have just returned. Since I returned a few weeks back I've been having a blast and I just wanted to thank you all for it! You guys are awesome! 
Awesome, welcome back.
It's a shame that so many new players get funneled into mining rather than PVP. |

Tim Mickelsen
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation
0
|
Posted - 2015.08.09 21:48:46 -
[85] - Quote
Esrange wrote:I'm one of the new people in the corporation, I played for a bit a few years back and have just returned. Since I returned a few weeks back I've been having a blast and I just wanted to thank you all for it! You guys are awesome! 
Dito, I played a month or two a few years back.
Thanks for all the sponsored frigates, the lessons from vets within the corp and to all the vets outside of the corps teaching us by blowing us up.
o7 |

Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1615
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Posted - 2015.08.10 18:23:56 -
[86] - Quote
Brings tears to your eyes right? So much potential in one place. Also mags is the new fluffy cuddly cute bad guy of my heart <3
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Zimmy Zeta
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
59196
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Posted - 2015.08.10 19:40:34 -
[87] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Cannibal Kane and Psychotic Monk would approve of this outreach program.
And now you've gone and made me sad, knowing that such content creators are gone from our world.
Holy crap..I was unsubscribed when Kane left...just heard here for the first time.
  
Did he say anything as to why he left ? I found nothing on the forums.
I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it.
Yes, I do feel bad about it.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1625
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Posted - 2015.08.10 23:00:32 -
[88] - Quote
Zimmy Zeta wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Cannibal Kane and Psychotic Monk would approve of this outreach program.
And now you've gone and made me sad, knowing that such content creators are gone from our world. Holy crap..I was unsubscribed when Kane left...just heard here for the first time.    Did he say anything as to why he left ? I found nothing on the forums. Twas a sad time
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Mag's
the united
20026
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Posted - 2015.08.10 23:23:05 -
[89] - Quote
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Brings tears to your eyes right? So much potential in one place. Also mags is the new fluffy cuddly cute bad guy of my heart <3  I wish I had spare time to help out also. But no chance atm. 
You're doing a great job bud. You have my respect. 
Destination SkillQueue:-
It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1654
|
Posted - 2015.08.12 07:29:33 -
[90] - Quote
Badman schooled us in off grid seperation today. Also we schooled some jelly jam guy in suspect games. He had a bit of a brown moment when he dipped into structure on his vargur after we killed his sleip
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Biff Ekpyrion
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation
33
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Posted - 2015.08.12 13:08:01 -
[91] - Quote
Hello!
I, too, had a very fun last couple of weeks! I'm not entirely new to EVE but my career up to this point has been mostly playing "skill training online", as it is affectionately dubbed, save a few bouts in Impass a while back. I actually logged in and started playing when I got the Arumba call to arms.
Since I never really got into the game proper I would like to thank you all for the pew pew and especially Noragen for getting us off the mining and research and into glorious combat!
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
2652
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Posted - 2015.08.12 17:23:53 -
[92] - Quote
Omg we created a monster!
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1660
|
Posted - 2015.08.12 17:51:52 -
[93] - Quote
Tora Bushido wrote:Omg we created a monster! Yarr 
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
24638
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Posted - 2015.08.12 18:21:15 -
[94] - Quote
To the guys from Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation who've posted here, we hope to see you posting about your exploits and shenanigans in C&P soon.
You were lied to about the cookies btw.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Badman Lasermouse
Run and Gun Mercenary Corps Forsaken Asylum
142
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Posted - 2015.08.12 19:43:53 -
[95] - Quote
Gentlemen of Fredegar Hohenstaufen,
My Vagabond is in your homeland. No Logi, no links, no boosters, just a head full of snakes and a bad attitude. Your mission, is to kill me. I will do as much damage as possible until then.
9 Kills and counting.
-Badman
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
2042
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Posted - 2015.08.12 19:47:15 -
[96] - Quote
Badman Lasermouse wrote:Gentlemen of Fredegar Hohenstaufen,
My Vagabond is in your homeland. No Logi, no links, no boosters, just a head full of snakes and a bad attitude. Your mission, is to kill me. I will do as much damage as possible until then.
9 Kills and counting.
I cannot "like" this enough.
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My Many Misadventures
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Mobadder Thworst
Noob Farmers
602
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Posted - 2015.08.12 19:57:48 -
[97] - Quote
Badman Lasermouse wrote:Gentlemen of Fredegar Hohenstaufen,
My Vagabond is in your homeland. No Logi, no links, no boosters, just a head full of snakes and a bad attitude. Your mission, is to kill me. I will do as much damage as possible until then.
9 Kills and counting.
I'm badman's half-assed copycat.
I can't afford a Vagabond, logi, boosters, or links. I'm afraid of snakes, and I am friendless.
I am also in your homeland. You can try to kill me if I don't accidentally kill myself first.
I am probably flying a t1 frig or cruiser (assuming I haven't already lost it).
Mo |

Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1678
|
Posted - 2015.08.13 03:11:26 -
[98] - Quote
Badman Lasermouse wrote:Gentlemen of Fredegar Hohenstaufen,
My Vagabond is in your homeland. No Logi, no links, no boosters, just a head full of snakes and a bad attitude. Your mission, is to kill me. I will do as much damage as possible until then.
11 Kills and counting. We took a note from your book but sadly the main land only netted us a panther, mach, pilgrim, vexor, orca, confessor and a blank pod. We were short on catching up and shall return to catch you. I will not provide links against you in the spirit of fairness
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Badman Lasermouse
Run and Gun Mercenary Corps Forsaken Asylum
148
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Posted - 2015.08.13 03:43:57 -
[99] - Quote
Bait Drake is the best Drake. I thought my guys were better than that. 19 and counting by the way.
-Badman
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1685
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Posted - 2015.08.13 03:53:07 -
[100] - Quote
Badman Lasermouse wrote:Bait Drake is the best Drake. I thought my guys were better than that. 19 and counting by the way. I didn't think they would fall for it twice in the same day . That's OK I remember marmite falling for it twice in 2 hours by the same guys in the same place once. We hazed them . Do I need to hop on and direct them or are the others getting enough confidence to chase you and organize their own hunting parties? Cause frankly once that happens I've achieved my goal
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Badman Lasermouse
Run and Gun Mercenary Corps Forsaken Asylum
150
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Posted - 2015.08.13 05:40:42 -
[101] - Quote
Make it 30. We'll see how it goes in the morning.
-Badman
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Belthazor4011
For Your Bacon Only The Marmite Collective
188
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Posted - 2015.08.13 11:02:52 -
[102] - Quote
Great work everyone.
Nora is there a plan to get off the island in the future? I'd love to mess around more but the 30 or so jumps each time is tedious  |

Noragen Neirfallas
The Scope Gallente Federation
1693
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Posted - 2015.08.13 11:10:57 -
[103] - Quote
Belthazor4011 wrote:Great work everyone. Nora is there a plan to get off the island in the future? I'd love to mess around more but the 30 or so jumps each time is tedious  Your telling me... I have to move a fleet 21 jumps to gal fw for mostly blue balls or 28 jumps to minne fw for fun fights. or you know 30 jumps to jita . Aridia is a bad place . Plan is to end the wardecs then we can live wherever . In all seriousness though I doubt it. Wouldnt mind living on an island a little closer to some more casual PvP action
PS I can sell you some ships out here for jita +250 
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Belthazor4011
For Your Bacon Only The Marmite Collective
190
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Posted - 2015.08.13 11:21:39 -
[104] - Quote
I'll pay an extra 250 ISK for shipping, wish Red Frog was that cheap 
Seems like if you move to a decent high sec spot you could win most wars. I doubt a corp that size that they'll ever be over.
But yea there are sexier islands, whats the .6 behind Seyllin called again? Ah yes Clorteler
Only 6j from a trade hub, much closer to Minnie FW and no current inhabitants you couldn't deal with.
I am sure there are others that are about as good but this one came to mind... |

Noragen Neirfallas
The Scope Gallente Federation
1694
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Posted - 2015.08.13 11:32:03 -
[105] - Quote
Belthazor4011 wrote:I'll pay an extra 250 ISK for shipping, wish Red Frog was that cheap  Seems like if you move to a decent high sec spot you could win most wars. I doubt a corp that size that they'll ever be over. But yea there are sexier islands, whats the .6 behind Seyllin called again? Ah yes Clorteler Only 6j from a trade hub, much closer to Minnie FW and no current inhabitants you couldn't deal with. I am sure there are others that are about as good but this one came to mind... I'll take a look
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Quinn Hatfield
The Scope Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2015.08.16 10:16:30 -
[106] - Quote
I will be joining the wrong side of the C&P CTA on Jonah's behalf.
PvP newbie looking for GFs. I'm a complete novice who is interested in collecting your corpses and should be treated as such. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
24765
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Posted - 2015.08.16 10:17:18 -
[107] - Quote
Quinn Hatfield wrote:I will be joining the wrong side of the C&P CTA on Jonah's behalf.
PvP newbie looking for GFs. I'm a complete novice who is interested in collecting your corpses and should be treated as such. Confirming that Quinn is my alt and that she will be attempting to collect your corpses on my behalf.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
576
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Posted - 2015.08.16 22:45:45 -
[108] - Quote
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Belthazor4011 wrote:Great work everyone. Nora is there a plan to get off the island in the future? I'd love to mess around more but the 30 or so jumps each time is tedious  Your telling me... I have to move a fleet 21 jumps to gal fw for mostly blue balls or 28 jumps to minne fw for fun fights. or you know 30 jumps to jita  . Aridia is a bad place  . Plan is to end the wardecs then we can live wherever  . In all seriousness though I doubt it. Wouldnt mind living on an island a little closer to some more casual PvP action PS I can sell you some ships out here for jita +250 
Go to Tama. Or a nearby system.
Rapid Withdrawal lives one system over in Suj and are almost always active. We had over 7000 kills last month. In addition while I haven't been on in about two days, we had the contested level on Tama up over 50% and the Caldari were beginning to fight back. If that system is still being pushed, you'll probably see running battles between frigate and destroyer fleets throughout the day with bigger stuff being brought out occasionally.
Tama local is rarely below 40; if you want fights that is the place to go. And you get to teach your pet newbies how to avoid smartbombers!
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Mobadder Thworst
Noob Farmers
658
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Posted - 2015.08.17 01:14:03 -
[109] - Quote
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Belthazor4011 wrote:Great work everyone. Nora is there a plan to get off the island in the future? I'd love to mess around more but the 30 or so jumps each time is tedious  Your telling me... I have to move a fleet 21 jumps to gal fw for mostly blue balls or 28 jumps to minne fw for fun fights. or you know 30 jumps to jita  . Aridia is a bad place  . Plan is to end the wardecs then we can live wherever  . In all seriousness though I doubt it. Wouldnt mind living on an island a little closer to some more casual PvP action PS I can sell you some ships out here for jita +250  Go to Tama. Or a nearby system. Rapid Withdrawal lives one system over in Suj and are almost always active. We had over 7000 kills last month. In addition while I haven't been on in about two days, we had the contested level on Tama up over 50% and the Caldari were beginning to fight back. If that system is still being pushed, you'll probably see running battles between frigate and destroyer fleets throughout the day with bigger stuff being brought out occasionally. Tama local is rarely below 40; if you want fights that is the place to go. And you get to teach your pet newbies how to avoid smartbombers!
Tama is where I tried to learn.
I looked up the closest place to Jita where fights go wholesale.
I wouldn't recommend it for beginners. You are usually schooled en-mass and rarely get any useful critique.
I think I lost upwards of 40 ships trying to learn there and gained almost nothing in technique.
The good news is that it's fights all the time, frigates are normal, and you will be entertained.
I don't recommend it for novices unless you are in a local corp, as Demerious X recommended. |

Noragen Neirfallas
The Scope Gallente Federation
1745
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Posted - 2015.08.17 03:01:38 -
[110] - Quote
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Belthazor4011 wrote:Great work everyone. Nora is there a plan to get off the island in the future? I'd love to mess around more but the 30 or so jumps each time is tedious  Your telling me... I have to move a fleet 21 jumps to gal fw for mostly blue balls or 28 jumps to minne fw for fun fights. or you know 30 jumps to jita  . Aridia is a bad place  . Plan is to end the wardecs then we can live wherever  . In all seriousness though I doubt it. Wouldnt mind living on an island a little closer to some more casual PvP action PS I can sell you some ships out here for jita +250  Go to Tama. Or a nearby system. Rapid Withdrawal lives one system over in Suj and are almost always active. We had over 7000 kills last month. In addition while I haven't been on in about two days, we had the contested level on Tama up over 50% and the Caldari were beginning to fight back. If that system is still being pushed, you'll probably see running battles between frigate and destroyer fleets throughout the day with bigger stuff being brought out occasionally. Tama local is rarely below 40; if you want fights that is the place to go. And you get to teach your pet newbies how to avoid smartbombers! Haven't tried tama yet although I have been advocating moving to a pocket that is only 12 jumps away from gal/cal facwar. It's still 25 jumps so it's a slog but i'll see if i can get a fleet up there tomorrow 
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Mobadder Thworst
Noob Farmers
659
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Posted - 2015.08.17 04:57:46 -
[111] - Quote
4 jumps from Jita and it's a FW hotspot. You could shack everyone up in Nourv. Nourv also has multiple l4 locator agents in system, so you could start teaching them to hunt (and drop the locators there yourself).
Downside is that you're in the backyard of every merc corp who fancies themselves big enough to hold Jita.
Likelihood of 300 noobs drawing wardecs galore... High.
I'm tempted to say that you could move them to Jita if you start drawing wardecs. A 300 noob camp would be enough to make a mess out of more than a few of the local merc groups... And refitting would be instant and a cinch.
It's a backwards strategy, but 300 noobs undocking as fast as you can kill them would be hell to fight.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
577
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Posted - 2015.08.17 06:09:09 -
[112] - Quote
Mobadder Thworst wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Belthazor4011 wrote:Great work everyone. Nora is there a plan to get off the island in the future? I'd love to mess around more but the 30 or so jumps each time is tedious  Your telling me... I have to move a fleet 21 jumps to gal fw for mostly blue balls or 28 jumps to minne fw for fun fights. or you know 30 jumps to jita  . Aridia is a bad place  . Plan is to end the wardecs then we can live wherever  . In all seriousness though I doubt it. Wouldnt mind living on an island a little closer to some more casual PvP action PS I can sell you some ships out here for jita +250  Go to Tama. Or a nearby system. Rapid Withdrawal lives one system over in Suj and are almost always active. We had over 7000 kills last month. In addition while I haven't been on in about two days, we had the contested level on Tama up over 50% and the Caldari were beginning to fight back. If that system is still being pushed, you'll probably see running battles between frigate and destroyer fleets throughout the day with bigger stuff being brought out occasionally. Tama local is rarely below 40; if you want fights that is the place to go. And you get to teach your pet newbies how to avoid smartbombers! Tama is where I tried to learn. I looked up the closest place to Jita where fights go wholesale. I wouldn't recommend it for beginners. You are usually schooled en-mass and rarely get any useful critique. I think I lost upwards of 40 ships trying to learn there and gained almost nothing in technique. The good news is that it's fights all the time, frigates are normal, and you will be entertained. I don't recommend it for novices unless you are in a local corp, as Demerious X recommended.
Tama is not a good place for solo or small gang as a newish player, that is true. Most of the local gangs/corps and many solo-ers will have links at all times. Implants and expensive fits are also common.
But Noragen has numbers to work with and the experience to wield them effectively. I also suspect he can get hold of a booster alt to even the playing field in that respect. Also keep in mind that FW is really the only area of the game in which you can earn income anywhere near efficiently in a PvP fit ship, a cheap one at that. All you have to do is catch one of the local shiny addicts with your Atron blob and your killboard is set for the night. Bring an insta-locking Thrasher for further chuckles as you collect the all-too-common billion ISK pod.
Tama is horrible for solo but amazing if you have numbers and a competent FC. And many nearby systems can also be promising for PvP. If you get tired of fighting mercs, Black Rise is your best bet.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
577
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Posted - 2015.08.17 06:11:36 -
[113] - Quote
Mobadder Thworst wrote:4 jumps from Jita and it's a FW hotspot. You could shack everyone up in Nourv. Nourv also has multiple l4 locator agents in system, so you could start teaching them to hunt (and drop the locators there yourself).
Downside is that you're in the backyard of every merc corp who fancies themselves big enough to hold Jita.
Likelihood of 300 noobs drawing wardecs galore... High.
I'm tempted to say that you could move them to Jita if you start drawing wardecs. A 300 noob camp would be enough to make a mess out of more than a few of the local merc groups... And refitting would be instant and a cinch.
It's a backwards strategy, but 300 noobs undocking as fast as you can kill them would be hell to fight.
There are lots of nearby lowsec systems with decent markets where no "elite highsec pvp'er" dares to tread. Nisuwa, Nennamaila, Sujarento and Vlillilier are all good. Tama is frequently camped by an instalocker but docks/undock safes will manage that.
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Noragen Neirfallas
The Scope Gallente Federation
1745
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Posted - 2015.08.17 10:34:26 -
[114] - Quote
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Mobadder Thworst wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Belthazor4011 wrote:Great work everyone. Nora is there a plan to get off the island in the future? I'd love to mess around more but the 30 or so jumps each time is tedious  Your telling me... I have to move a fleet 21 jumps to gal fw for mostly blue balls or 28 jumps to minne fw for fun fights. or you know 30 jumps to jita  . Aridia is a bad place  . Plan is to end the wardecs then we can live wherever  . In all seriousness though I doubt it. Wouldnt mind living on an island a little closer to some more casual PvP action PS I can sell you some ships out here for jita +250  Go to Tama. Or a nearby system. Rapid Withdrawal lives one system over in Suj and are almost always active. We had over 7000 kills last month. In addition while I haven't been on in about two days, we had the contested level on Tama up over 50% and the Caldari were beginning to fight back. If that system is still being pushed, you'll probably see running battles between frigate and destroyer fleets throughout the day with bigger stuff being brought out occasionally. Tama local is rarely below 40; if you want fights that is the place to go. And you get to teach your pet newbies how to avoid smartbombers! Tama is where I tried to learn. I looked up the closest place to Jita where fights go wholesale. I wouldn't recommend it for beginners. You are usually schooled en-mass and rarely get any useful critique. I think I lost upwards of 40 ships trying to learn there and gained almost nothing in technique. The good news is that it's fights all the time, frigates are normal, and you will be entertained. I don't recommend it for novices unless you are in a local corp, as Demerious X recommended. Tama is not a good place for solo or small gang as a newish player, that is true. Most of the local gangs/corps and many solo-ers will have links at all times. Implants and expensive fits are also common. But Noragen has numbers to work with and the experience to wield them effectively. I also suspect he can get hold of a booster alt to even the playing field in that respect. Also keep in mind that FW is really the only area of the game in which you can earn income anywhere near efficiently in a PvP fit ship, a cheap one at that. All you have to do is catch one of the local shiny addicts with your Atron blob and your killboard is set for the night. Bring an insta-locking Thrasher for further chuckles as you collect the all-too-common billion ISK pod. Tama is horrible for solo but amazing if you have numbers and a competent FC. And many nearby systems can also be promising for PvP. If you get tired of fighting mercs, Black Rise is your best bet. Wait did you just butter me up?
Also what do you think of jotenen? It's in lonetrek near black rise and pure blind but also has low sec between it and the mainland.
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Belthazor4011
For Your Bacon Only The Marmite Collective
190
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Posted - 2015.08.17 11:19:02 -
[115] - Quote
Its about as big an island as you can get without going to Solitute. So it works in that regard, still a bit middle of nowhere if you still care about the 'main land'
If you don't then its a good spot. |

Noragen Neirfallas
The Scope Gallente Federation
1749
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Posted - 2015.08.17 21:07:39 -
[116] - Quote
Belthazor4011 wrote:Its about as big an island as you can get without going to Solitute. So it works in that regard, still a bit middle of nowhere if you still care about the 'main land'
If you don't then its a good spot. Been scoping it out lately it seems to be 10 jumps from jita, violent fw and goon null. Beats 21 jumps to dodi an 28 jumps for a non capitol fight. It also has more then 3 people living there . I'll see if I can convince our leaders of its merits. I did like the island near stacmon but of the 2 this one seems better and eaiser to move 500 people too
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Razsius Luine
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire
2
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Posted - 2015.08.17 21:16:50 -
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So the call goes out that one of our guys flying a deep space hauler is tackled by a garmur and his rattlesnake buddy. Being the little eve bear he is the garmur pilot decides he's going to hold him there so his "elite" low sec hot dropping bros can get in on the blingy killmail. Trouble is Trosken's already on his way to bail him out and I shortly follow along with a couple corpmates lagging behind even me (i'm usually pulling up the rear it feels like). I enter grid in my Tormentor and go full "heavy tackle" mode on the garmur pilot so he can't get away and in the back of my sleep deprived mind I can vaguely recall that with a rattlesnake on grid I have a not so small chance of losing my Tormentor naturally I completely ignore that "small" doubt. A single rapid heavy missile volley later i'm 1/3 into armor. Overheating my repper does little to stem the incoming tide of damage. A couple volleys later i'm in my pod which nearly didn't get out because some odd lag or some such didn't register that I actually wanted to warp off.
But our corpmate had gotten away in the ensuing chaos...
I can't think of a better use for that Tormentor then to white knight for one of your corpmates and though I could have easily saved said Tormentor by simply taking a page out of Trosken's book and using my extended drone range to harass instead of barrel in it was easily the "easiest" ship i've ever lost. More than worth the trade imo. I logged off with a big smile plastered to my face.
So watch out Aridians! We're like a mini PL you go after one of our guys and we'll hot drop a couple T1 frigates on your ass. |

Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
579
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Posted - 2015.08.18 02:53:25 -
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I'm not familiar with that system. If it's up past Kehjari/Martoh in the Northern wastes of Black Rise, I don't think there's a whole lot up there. I think there was a calmil corp that lived in Hykanima, but they may have joined Exodus. That might work for your purposes though giving you some fairly empty lowsec to play with that's still in striking distance of the more interesting systems. |

Noragen Neirfallas
The Scope Gallente Federation
1754
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Posted - 2015.08.18 09:16:42 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:I'm not familiar with that system. If it's up past Kehjari/Martoh in the Northern wastes of Black Rise, I don't think there's a whole lot up there. I think there was a calmil corp that lived in Hykanima, but they may have joined Exodus. That might work for your purposes though giving you some fairly empty lowsec to play with that's still in striking distance of the more interesting systems.
Jufvitte and Mesybier may be worth looking into also. Both are 0.5 systems not too far from Dodixie which border FW lowsec. While living so close to eve uni or OMS/syndicate appeals to me we get the issue of en mass wardeccers having easy access which works just fine for me but I would never be able to sell living on the 'mainland' of highsec atm. I checked out that other island but it's fairly empty itself and I kinda want other people there. These guys are beginning to believe that there aren't any other people in eve that aren't in our corp 
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Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
579
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Posted - 2015.08.18 09:44:39 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:I'm not familiar with that system. If it's up past Kehjari/Martoh in the Northern wastes of Black Rise, I don't think there's a whole lot up there. I think there was a calmil corp that lived in Hykanima, but they may have joined Exodus. That might work for your purposes though giving you some fairly empty lowsec to play with that's still in striking distance of the more interesting systems.
Jufvitte and Mesybier may be worth looking into also. Both are 0.5 systems not too far from Dodixie which border FW lowsec. While living so close to eve uni or OMS/syndicate appeals to me we get the issue of en mass wardeccers having easy access which works just fine for me but I would never be able to sell living on the 'mainland' of highsec atm. I checked out that other island but it's fairly empty itself and I kinda want other people there. These guys are beginning to believe that there aren't any other people in eve that aren't in our corp 
Vlillilier would be my recommendation. Decent market, tons of stations so you can have one to yourself and not be camped too much, and it holds a pretty central location in the war zone. Wardeccers are allergic to systems that are orange on the map I'm told. I have a feeling if you move a 500 man corp there, people will keep the market stocked. It was a major Galmil hub but I'm not sure if any corps still live there since Bastard Cartel went pirate.
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Noragen Neirfallas
The Scope Gallente Federation
1761
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Posted - 2015.08.18 14:09:01 -
[121] - Quote
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:I'm not familiar with that system. If it's up past Kehjari/Martoh in the Northern wastes of Black Rise, I don't think there's a whole lot up there. I think there was a calmil corp that lived in Hykanima, but they may have joined Exodus. That might work for your purposes though giving you some fairly empty lowsec to play with that's still in striking distance of the more interesting systems.
Jufvitte and Mesybier may be worth looking into also. Both are 0.5 systems not too far from Dodixie which border FW lowsec. While living so close to eve uni or OMS/syndicate appeals to me we get the issue of en mass wardeccers having easy access which works just fine for me but I would never be able to sell living on the 'mainland' of highsec atm. I checked out that other island but it's fairly empty itself and I kinda want other people there. These guys are beginning to believe that there aren't any other people in eve that aren't in our corp  Vlillilier would be my recommendation. Decent market, tons of stations so you can have one to yourself and not be camped too much, and it holds a pretty central location in the war zone. Wardeccers are allergic to systems that are orange on the map I'm told. I have a feeling if you move a 500 man corp there, people will keep the market stocked. It was a major Galmil hub but I'm not sure if any corps still live there since Bastard Cartel went pirate. If it's Lowsec it's not on the cards. Only 1/2 the corp are PvPing all in all so the other half will not fare well there lol
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Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
580
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Posted - 2015.08.19 03:21:31 -
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What do the others do? If these are all new players, highsec missioning and mining are going to be laughable income sources. Not to mention mission hubs tend to attract war targets. I think PvE in a wardec magnet corp of that size would be more safely done in low or nullsec honestly. |

Noragen Neirfallas
The Scope Gallente Federation
1762
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Posted - 2015.08.19 07:46:33 -
[123] - Quote
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:What do the others do? If these are all new players, highsec missioning and mining are going to be laughable income sources. Not to mention mission hubs tend to attract war targets. I think PvE in a wardec magnet corp of that size would be more safely done in low or nullsec honestly. But not the middle of a warzone . And no its not more safely done in low or null a corp of this many newbies attracts hotdrops like you wouldn't believe. Unless you were in brave then you might . Yah they mostly mission and mine for their income. Some only do those things but a good portion now do the PvP and defend their home when it is invaded by the evil wardeccers. What's been awesome lately is they are hitting the wardeccers back even when I'm offline . But this is something an island provides is realative isolation from 90% of the wardeccers and our few more experienced players provide logistics. The thing I feel the corp is struggling with now is a lack of ability to move its wares out and its needs in as they have gone from clearing a couple of belts a day in ventures to clearing entire systems. The ones who only casual PvP on a weekend and actually enjoy making things or mining (I know I know but I swear on my ALT's they do) need something to do. Otherwise I'd say screw it base outta 4-4 and let people try and camp the undock 
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Auscent Issier
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.08.19 08:12:39 -
[124] - Quote
Following the flawed logic CCP also uses, the fact that most players who stay have lost a lot during the first month of playing, then you are right. Except that is the same logic used to prove Jesus existed. |

Barrogh Habalu
Forever Winter Absolute Zero.
1042
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Posted - 2015.08.27 13:58:59 -
[125] - Quote
Bumping this to ask how the folks are doing. Can anyone be kind enough to make a tl;dr update?
Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
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Noragen Neirfallas
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire
1898
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Posted - 2015.08.27 14:16:12 -
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Barrogh Habalu wrote:Bumping this to ask how the folks are doing. Can anyone be kind enough to make a tl;dr update? We are doing quite well (I wound up joining on Noragen which means it's got all my attention and loyalty now). The newbies are screwing up. Their all dieing in fires and explosions occasionally quite gloriously so I would have to say it's been a huge success. Ohh about to declare our first offensive wardec so that's something. Usual corp drama that happens from A a newbro corp and B a newbro starting a corp lol.
Most importantly people are still having fun dieing (with an occasional kill here and there) and we have 2 less then 2 month toons stepping up and tentatively leading fleets. I say op success so far. Could still use some experienced FC's who are happy to just take fleets out without wanting to push opinions across cause that doesn't go down well 
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Belthazor4011
For Your Bacon Only The Marmite Collective
201
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Posted - 2015.08.27 14:29:37 -
[127] - Quote
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Could still use some experienced FC's who are happy to just take fleets out without wanting to push opinions across cause that doesn't go down well 
I've got a highish SP (100mil or so) alt that I never use, it only be once a week or so because Marmite is on a good roll as well.
But I'd like to help out. Let me know mate
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Noragen Neirfallas
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire
1898
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Posted - 2015.08.27 14:39:33 -
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Belthazor4011 wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Could still use some experienced FC's who are happy to just take fleets out without wanting to push opinions across cause that doesn't go down well  I've got a highish SP (100mil or so) alt that I never use, it only be once a week or so because Marmite is on a good roll as well. But I'd like to help out. Let me know mate App up dude. If you want to setup a certain time hit me up I can make events and stuff. All help is appreciated
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Urutali Lafeal
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire
0
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Posted - 2015.08.29 07:45:30 -
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If you would like to hear a story of what some of your kind donations went into, then here is a story for you!
So a merry band of weapon wielding spaceships set out to cruise the night clubs around Amarr. Like all good guests, plenty of warning was given to our future arrival at the Amarr Emperor Academy. Once everybody was sorted out with the space skateboard they wanted to show up in, we headed off to the club, of course, to be greeted by the bouncers PIRAT.
Obviously, the mandatory ID checks needed to be done, of which a PIRAT nestor was first chosen to inspect our ages by means of bullets. There was much back and forth, but it was decided that this nestor was not going to be our doorman of choice. So we were forced to speak with one of his companions in a guardian. Guardians apparently less capable of checking IDs. As the guardian fell further into armor, the fellow guardian and nestor of PIRAT docked up, of which one could only assume on their coms a nice friendly, "Hey, um, good luck with your aggression timer". The Amarr club unfortunately did not offer admittance to their loyal patron https://zkillboard.com/kill/48748462/
At this point all the club employees were inside drinking cocoa, except for a lonely wittle Navy Megathron. So we commenced to send him the comment card that his friends were all inside and there is cocoa. As he slowly lost his armor, everyone waited for the inevitable dockup. HOWEVER, plot twist ensues! Out of that oh so popular Amarr station pipe a majestic third party Megathron emerges. Upon seeing that the PIRAT megathron was not clad in matching spaceship skin, full megathron on megathron ramming speed commenced, not once, but twice! Now stuck outside of docking range, faced with an angry megathron bumping and lots of people asking to come in, PIRAT was forced to allow admittance!
The happyness to be allowed in could only be broken by an interjection saying, "Hey guys, I have 1.2 billion in my cargohold." For not only was https://zkillboard.com/kill/48748514/ a doorman, but a doorman that had to do his job fully accessorized. Even this was not the end of the tale, as upon inspection of the capsule nab, it was found that indeed, EVERYTHING must scream monies! https://zkillboard.com/kill/48748516/
Finally with all the guns quieting, Amarr could get down to business. Which was immediately Market Tycoon yelling to stop so he could go back to trying to make money off kill rights, followed by PIRAT engaging in cordial conversation such as, "GOOD JOB BRINGING 19 pilots you blohards", caps retained for accuracy. To be fair, it was more than 19. Once the kills started to be linked though, there could be only one final debate topic. Whether or not Bavisto disconnected.
The trial of the Bavisto disconnection was a heated back and forth 3 or 4 minute debate, with the defense stating because he was killed at all, it was obviously a disconnection. Which was countered with eye witness testimony that the pod was seen moving back towards the station before the contents of said pod were splattered all over the windshields of a nearby ship.
In the end, the real circumstances around Bavisto's death might never be known.
Oh, and there is no embellishing in this story, Amarr really is a club with bouncers.
Again, thanks for all the help we have received! As many in the fleet had less than 4 million skill points, this one got on the highlight reel.
Edit: To give full props, it is believed that Dan Daaman was the bumping megathron(kronos) who has a real thing for skins. |

Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2508
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Posted - 2015.08.29 08:13:26 -
[130] - Quote
+1 Made me giggle a bit, well told.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Belthazor4011
For Your Bacon Only The Marmite Collective
203
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Posted - 2015.08.29 09:49:35 -
[131] - Quote
Nice one, they must have had a bad night then. Because it wasn't their fist lost battle on that undock that day 
Anyways a disconnect always saves the pod, so if you didn't have to scan it down with probes he didnt DC. Simple as that  |

Mobadder Thworst
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire
679
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Posted - 2015.08.29 11:38:26 -
[132] - Quote
It pleases me to se players so young demonstrating how this game is played.
There are about 15,000 Carebears in highsec who would have chosen to just petition CCP to eliminate wardecs and cried about the war.
I hope some of them see how a pack of newbros can hunt coyotes just fine... And feel a touch of shame for their efforts to destroy that core gameplay element.
While I can't deny that wardec mechanics are a bit messed up right now, there is plenty of fun to be had.
Good job for stepping up and giving PIRAT a wardec to regret. No |

Aoife Fraoch
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire
131
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Posted - 2015.08.29 11:53:11 -
[133] - Quote
Urutali Lafeal wrote: ...Story...
And then we put a number of POCOs into reinforce. |

Noragen Neirfallas
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire
1930
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Posted - 2015.08.29 14:02:43 -
[134] - Quote
So to further majestify this truly amazing effort I was supposed to be heading this up but am caught up with a family thing atm and all I have is my laptop. Anywho they did this 100% without an experienced station gamers active assistance... That's right the more then 19 newbros mixed with vets mostly also from highsec bear life just turned PIRAT's **** inside out.
I will deposit 200 mil into the free ship fund btw if you contract me that corpse from the 2bil pod 
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Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
609
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Posted - 2015.08.29 14:16:25 -
[135] - Quote
That megathron...why? Some people have more money than sense.
Must have caught them at the right time, would've expected far more logi backup. |

Noragen Neirfallas
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire
1930
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Posted - 2015.08.29 14:20:23 -
[136] - Quote
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:That megathron...why? Some people have more money than sense.
Must have caught them at the right time, would've expected far more logi backup. Outside of Russian time pirat really don't have that much logi. Hell they won't field it if they think there is a remote chance it could die tbh. Its why we now call bitching out PIRATing out.
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Deuce McGuilicuddy
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire
39
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Posted - 2015.08.29 20:03:28 -
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Oh, they had logi. Their Nestor had literally just docked up, and I think they had a couple of guardians as well. It was a mix of a fortuitous bump from a neutral megathron pilot, fail station gaming on pirat's part, our FC calmly choosing and calling targets, and all our pilots doing their jobs properly. I'm proud to be flying with these guys, that was the most fun I've had in months in this game. |

Noragen Neirfallas
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire
1932
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Posted - 2015.08.29 23:28:12 -
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Deuce McGuilicuddy wrote:Oh, they had logi. Their Nestor had literally just docked up, and I think they had a couple of guardians as well. It was a mix of a fortuitous bump from a neutral megathron pilot, fail station gaming on pirat's part, our FC calmly choosing and calling targets, and all our pilots doing their jobs properly. I'm proud to be flying with these guys, that was the most fun I've had in months in this game. For sure they did. This is a ongoing conversation where demerius here is convinced everybody in high sec can field 10 guards a piece. Blojo however are flat out scraping up 5 logi. The rest of pirat can usually blot out the sun with 3-5 bil Nestor's. But don't mind us it's an argument that has spanned a few dozen threads
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Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
609
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Posted - 2015.08.30 23:00:36 -
[139] - Quote
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Deuce McGuilicuddy wrote:Oh, they had logi. Their Nestor had literally just docked up and I think they had a couple of guardians as well. It was a mix of a fortuitous bump from a neutral megathron pilot, fail station gaming on pirat's part, our FC calmly choosing and calling targets, and all our pilots doing their jobs properly. I'm proud to be flying with these guys, that was the most fun I've had in months in this game. For sure they did. This is a ongoing conversation where demerius here is convinced everybody in high sec can field 10 guards a piece. Blojo however are flat out scraping up 5 logi. The rest of pirat can usually blot out the sun with 3-5 bil Nestor's. But don't mind us it's an argument that has spanned a few dozen threads
Sounds like they had logi and somehow failed horribly on communication. I guess that fits with everything else I've heard about PIRAT here.
3 Guardians or Nestors should have been unbreakable by what you guys had but they decided to bail and some good samaritan neutral bumper had other ideas.
The unexpected friendly bumper is a pleasant surprise. I had a hyperion kill once because a kindly gent in a Machariel knocked him off station so I could slowly burn him down with my Vexor. I think I sent that guy some ISK. |

Quinn Hatfield
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire
51
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Posted - 2015.08.31 00:29:14 -
[140] - Quote
From what I've seen of PIRAT so far they're really good at docking up...
The exodus of haulers from Amarr when PIRAT dock up in the face of some opposition is quite the sight to see. |

Noragen Neirfallas
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire
1938
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Posted - 2015.08.31 06:27:55 -
[141] - Quote
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Deuce McGuilicuddy wrote:Oh, they had logi. Their Nestor had literally just docked up and I think they had a couple of guardians as well. It was a mix of a fortuitous bump from a neutral megathron pilot, fail station gaming on pirat's part, our FC calmly choosing and calling targets, and all our pilots doing their jobs properly. I'm proud to be flying with these guys, that was the most fun I've had in months in this game. For sure they did. This is a ongoing conversation where demerius here is convinced everybody in high sec can field 10 guards a piece. Blojo however are flat out scraping up 5 logi. The rest of pirat can usually blot out the sun with 3-5 bil Nestor's. But don't mind us it's an argument that has spanned a few dozen threads Sounds like they had logi and somehow failed horribly on communication. I guess that fits with everything else I've heard about PIRAT here. 3 Guardians or Nestors should have been unbreakable by what you guys had but they decided to bail and some good samaritan neutral bumper had other ideas. The unexpected friendly bumper is a pleasant surprise. I had a hyperion kill once because a kindly gent in a Machariel knocked him off station so I could slowly burn him down with my Vexor. I think I sent that guy some ISK. Jams are a nasty thing and since we are only flying armor doctrines atm we have an abundance of bb pilots 
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Valkin Mordirc
1444
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Posted - 2015.08.31 06:47:19 -
[142] - Quote
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Deuce McGuilicuddy wrote:Oh, they had logi. Their Nestor had literally just docked up, and I think they had a couple of guardians as well. It was a mix of a fortuitous bump from a neutral megathron pilot, fail station gaming on pirat's part, our FC calmly choosing and calling targets, and all our pilots doing their jobs properly. I'm proud to be flying with these guys, that was the most fun I've had in months in this game. For sure they did. This is a ongoing conversation where demerius here is convinced everybody in high sec can field 10 guards a piece. Blojo however are flat out scraping up 5 logi. The rest of pirat can usually blot out the sun with 3-5 bil Nestor's. But don't mind us it's an argument that has spanned a few dozen threads
That's because when Deadly Fingertips was around, he saw Seld undock ten nestors at one point. He was the only dude who I've known to be THAT crazy with alt reppers, Each one could field a Megathron to.
Which would have been great if Seld was at the time we needed Ten Nestors. XD
#DeleteTheWeak
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Noragen Neirfallas
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire
1938
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Posted - 2015.08.31 07:14:18 -
[143] - Quote
Valkin Mordirc wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Deuce McGuilicuddy wrote:Oh, they had logi. Their Nestor had literally just docked up, and I think they had a couple of guardians as well. It was a mix of a fortuitous bump from a neutral megathron pilot, fail station gaming on pirat's part, our FC calmly choosing and calling targets, and all our pilots doing their jobs properly. I'm proud to be flying with these guys, that was the most fun I've had in months in this game. For sure they did. This is a ongoing conversation where demerius here is convinced everybody in high sec can field 10 guards a piece. Blojo however are flat out scraping up 5 logi. The rest of pirat can usually blot out the sun with 3-5 bil Nestor's. But don't mind us it's an argument that has spanned a few dozen threads That's because when Deadly Fingertips was around, he saw Seld undock ten nestors at one point. He was the only dude who I've known to be THAT crazy with alt reppers, Each one could field a Megathron to. Which would have been great if Seld was at the time we needed Ten Nestors. XD What about jimmy? Also without the use of a banned 3rd party program 10 Nestors controlled by 1 guy is a great way to lose a bunch to a properly ready fleet 
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Ro Fenrios
Armilies Corporation
104
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Posted - 2015.08.31 07:40:14 -
[144] - Quote
Guys, I wish to thank you for good laughs I had last night watching Amarr local/undock. I don't know who taught the newbros to smack talk like that, but it was amazing. Some of my favorites.
"PIRAT, please return to submissive position immidietly or be destroyed" <-- coming from 1 month old newbro. I was just drinking apple juice when I read that and to my pain proceeded to snort the apple juice out of my nose. I was laughing for good while albeit in pain and just when I tought I could calm down, newbies dropped another smack talk gem to keep me laughing. You guys are amazing. |

Noragen Neirfallas
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire
1991
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Posted - 2015.09.08 10:33:53 -
[145] - Quote
Got dunked by PIRAT on sunday... Was pretty awesome. Went out in frigs and dessies and fought snig after it which was also pretty awesome. Then out budding newbro FC nabbed 2 Golems while I was off scratching a living IRL.
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Catalytic morphisis
Lets go down to Funky Town
124
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Posted - 2015.09.08 11:42:00 -
[146] - Quote
I don't have an alt to throw in, I do however have a main I can drop in! got nothing better to do with my time and sounds like it could be fun
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Ro Fenrios
Armilies Corporation
111
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Posted - 2015.09.08 11:56:05 -
[147] - Quote
Fleeting with these guys have been fun experience. Coms are relaxed, atmosphere is great regardless are we killing or dying. And somehow it makes you happy to see that so many fresh newbros are enjoying the game - and many of them staying for good. There are our future eve legends in making, in these very fleets they form up. Just wait and see. |

Noragen Neirfallas
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire
1995
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Posted - 2015.09.09 10:16:23 -
[148] - Quote
Get ready there are big changes for this corp coming soon :D
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Catalytic morphisis
Lets go down to Funky Town
125
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Posted - 2015.09.09 11:49:02 -
[149] - Quote
Nice, I'll get applied and in tonight, Ready for some Pew Pew :)
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
2713
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Posted - 2015.09.09 13:29:52 -
[150] - Quote
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Get ready there are big changes for this corp coming soon :D You should be the alliance ceo. Just saying.. 
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
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punkgirl
Apocalypse Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2015.09.09 21:35:31 -
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Have you considered inviting a local pvp corporation into the alliance.
That would allow you to have multiple pvpers under a different corp but they would take on your wars.
There must be hundreds of corps that would jump at the chance of taking on your alliance war targets... |

Razsius Luine
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire
5
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Posted - 2015.09.09 21:37:06 -
[152] - Quote
Quote:Get ready there are big changes for this corp coming soon :D
Guess that's all she wrote for me then. I only really say this because i joined to play "Arumba's eve" ('cause it was interesting... or would've been at least) not the eve of everyone else. Sadly this didn't seem to happen due to lack of direction. Had some great times and met some great people. Trosken's definitely good in my book. Wanted to maybe volunteer my time as a diplomat *shudders* because apparently everyone found me pleasant to talk to (still trying to figure out that one) but saw that it wouldn't really happen. So, so many ways the corp could've made a real impact but I guess we chose the lamest way out. Can't say i'm not disappointed but there you have it. Now i've got to figure out how to get a ton of my stuff off the island. But i'll find a way.
I sometimes think you vets don't give eve the credit it really deserves... but that's just me.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire
1997
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Posted - 2015.09.09 22:26:23 -
[153] - Quote
Eh it's not over yet mate ;)
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Razsius Luine
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire
5
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Posted - 2015.09.10 00:06:46 -
[154] - Quote
Quote:Eh it's not over yet mate ;)
Oh i'm sure the corp will still be around in some form or other I wasn't saying that what I was saying however is I would've preferred it to stay "different". If the corp wanted to funnel trade and make an island monopoly in the new location, i'd be down. If the corp wanted to take on Goons because they don't realize they're renting space from us (hah! as if!), i'd be down. If the corp wanted to play Eve Universalis Online, i'd DEFINITELY be down. But if the corp wants to mine for ~10 mil an hour to get mats to sell a ship to noone then i'm not onboard. If the corp move is to simply get more minerals and "gudfites" plus a color change in the sky then i'm again not onboard. I'm as bloodthirsty as they come but i'm not into shooting neutrals for the hell of it and that includes the militias (assuming they're not picking a fight). You got a confirmed neutral PIRAT alt in a freighter you want ganked i'm there. But if some random neutral hauler happens to pop up in one of our little death balls I don't want to be part of the crowd that shoots him/her because the only mistake they made was being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I don't want to play space WoW I want to play eve. Ironically this might be the only board that would understand this as it's filled with mercs and CODE and seeing as how you actually honor your ransoms Trosken you should understand as well . |

Damnskippy
Mad Bombers Hashashin Cartel
116
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Posted - 2015.09.10 02:38:08 -
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Razsius Luine wrote:Quote:Eh it's not over yet mate ;) ... You got a confirmed neutral PIRAT alt in a freighter you want ganked i'm there. But if some random neutral hauler happens to pop up in one of our little death balls I don't want to be part of the crowd that shoots him/her because the only mistake they made was being in the wrong place at the wrong time...  .
You shoot the freighter! If a freighter shows up in your cross hairs and you can legally shoot it, it's probably a trap. If said vulnerable freighter is not a trap, the sequence of failures and outright dismal planning that lead to this moment of opportunity means the freighter is going to die soon anyway. So you might as well be the one who gets first pick of the loot. Either way, opening fire was just meant to be. 
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Furyvixen Bloodhoof
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.09.10 06:18:56 -
[156] - Quote
punkgirl wrote:Have you considered inviting a local pvp corporation into the alliance.
That would allow you to have multiple pvpers under a different corp but they would take on your wars.
There must be hundreds of corps that would jump at the chance of taking on your alliance war targets...
Did you consider that ? It sounds like a good idea.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire
1998
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Posted - 2015.09.10 07:49:31 -
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Furyvixen Bloodhoof wrote:punkgirl wrote:Have you considered inviting a local pvp corporation into the alliance.
That would allow you to have multiple pvpers under a different corp but they would take on your wars.
There must be hundreds of corps that would jump at the chance of taking on your alliance war targets... Did you consider that ? It sounds like a good idea. Arumba wanted no part of any other group, I can dig that but corp will likely be having a radical shift in direction ove rthe next few days and all previous bets are off
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Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
631
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Posted - 2015.09.10 09:19:58 -
[158] - Quote
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Deuce McGuilicuddy wrote:Oh, they had logi. Their Nestor had literally just docked up and I think they had a couple of guardians as well. It was a mix of a fortuitous bump from a neutral megathron pilot, fail station gaming on pirat's part, our FC calmly choosing and calling targets, and all our pilots doing their jobs properly. I'm proud to be flying with these guys, that was the most fun I've had in months in this game. For sure they did. This is a ongoing conversation where demerius here is convinced everybody in high sec can field 10 guards a piece. Blojo however are flat out scraping up 5 logi. The rest of pirat can usually blot out the sun with 3-5 bil Nestor's. But don't mind us it's an argument that has spanned a few dozen threads Sounds like they had logi and somehow failed horribly on communication. I guess that fits with everything else I've heard about PIRAT here. 3 Guardians or Nestors should have been unbreakable by what you guys had but they decided to bail and some good samaritan neutral bumper had other ideas. The unexpected friendly bumper is a pleasant surprise. I had a hyperion kill once because a kindly gent in a Machariel knocked him off station so I could slowly burn him down with my Vexor. I think I sent that guy some ISK. Jams are a nasty thing and since we are only flying armor doctrines atm we have an abundance of bb pilots 
I forget that when you have numbers to work with you can put a mob in cheap ewar and ruin someone's entire day.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc.
1998
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Posted - 2015.09.12 01:24:30 -
[159] - Quote
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Deuce McGuilicuddy wrote:Oh, they had logi. Their Nestor had literally just docked up and I think they had a couple of guardians as well. It was a mix of a fortuitous bump from a neutral megathron pilot, fail station gaming on pirat's part, our FC calmly choosing and calling targets, and all our pilots doing their jobs properly. I'm proud to be flying with these guys, that was the most fun I've had in months in this game. For sure they did. This is a ongoing conversation where demerius here is convinced everybody in high sec can field 10 guards a piece. Blojo however are flat out scraping up 5 logi. The rest of pirat can usually blot out the sun with 3-5 bil Nestor's. But don't mind us it's an argument that has spanned a few dozen threads Sounds like they had logi and somehow failed horribly on communication. I guess that fits with everything else I've heard about PIRAT here. 3 Guardians or Nestors should have been unbreakable by what you guys had but they decided to bail and some good samaritan neutral bumper had other ideas. The unexpected friendly bumper is a pleasant surprise. I had a hyperion kill once because a kindly gent in a Machariel knocked him off station so I could slowly burn him down with my Vexor. I think I sent that guy some ISK. Jams are a nasty thing and since we are only flying armor doctrines atm we have an abundance of bb pilots  I forget that when you have numbers to work with you can put a mob in cheap ewar and ruin someone's entire day. Yarr 
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Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
635
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Posted - 2015.09.14 03:10:45 -
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Are the Arumbians still in Aridia? My um, friend has been poking around in the nearby lowsec and is having some problems with extremely bored locals. |

Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc.
2007
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Posted - 2015.09.14 06:06:47 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Are the Arumbians still in Aridia? My um, friend has been poking around in the nearby lowsec and is having some problems with extremely bored locals. Nope we moved to lonetrek this week and reformed the corp as this. So the locals are extreamly bored again lol 
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc.
2007
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Posted - 2015.09.15 09:26:45 -
[162] - Quote
The original corp is now dead and Rabble Inc. has formed. Still looking for keen eager people to teach suicide ganking, mission flipping, small gang PvP, optimal methods to run missions while at war etc etc. If your keen mail me I have good ties with the new CEO 
 
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Mobadder Thworst
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire
681
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Posted - 2015.09.17 19:48:56 -
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I disappear for barely a month and everything falls apart, eh?
Looks like I have 42 emails to read. |

Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc.
2015
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Posted - 2015.09.17 23:45:54 -
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Mobadder Thworst wrote:I disappear for barely a month and everything falls apart, eh?
Looks like I have 42 emails to read. I advise reading none and moving too the new corp 
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc.
2015
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Posted - 2015.09.17 23:51:18 -
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Mobadder Thworst wrote:I disappear for barely a month and everything falls apart, eh?
Looks like I have 42 emails to read. I advise reading none and moving too the new corp 
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc.
2015
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Posted - 2015.09.18 00:30:28 -
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Razielkh wrote:Yes, throw your alts in the corporation so your alliance and the rest of the vultures can pad their killboards and farm newbros for kills. If you truly cared about new players coming to EVE and making content for all of us on the long run, you would do something about the swarm of decs they got from the merc community and "PVP" groups.
What's happening now is loads of new people coming to eve, trying out some fleet fights without any knowledge of the basic game mechanics, proper FCing and/or proper skills/fits and getting killed left and right as soon as they undock. My guess is that more than half of them will not stick with EVE, as they are not allowed to make any progress, try different aspects of EVE, grow with skills points, make some isk, explore their options, etc.
Kudos to Arumba for bringing hundreds of new players to EVE, which sadly will not stay for long, but for everyone else, stop being such effin' hypocrites. Quoting this now so that the egg may forever be upon your face 
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Mobadder Thworst
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire
681
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Posted - 2015.09.18 01:09:50 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Mobadder Thworst wrote:I disappear for barely a month and everything falls apart, eh?
Looks like I have 42 emails to read. I advise reading none and moving too the new corp 
I read 5. It made me feel sad.
I will keep these sadness-grams to forward to people I don't like.
Perhaps this is a new form of griefing. Now I feel happier. Mo |

Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
653
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Posted - 2015.09.18 12:34:00 -
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I have a, ummm, close personal friend who is looking for something to do. Maybe he will put in an application. |

Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc.
2018
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Posted - 2015.09.18 14:47:06 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:I have a, ummm, close personal friend who is looking for something to do. Maybe he will put in an application. The same kinda friend that looks exactly like you and lets you tell all its stories? 
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Belthazor4011
For Your Bacon Only The Marmite Collective
212
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Posted - 2015.09.18 14:53:45 -
[170] - Quote
So whats HQ now for you guys?
Stupid job, would love to have a toon in. But time, ugh time  |

Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc.
2018
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Posted - 2015.09.18 14:59:36 -
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Belthazor4011 wrote:So whats HQ now for you guys? Stupid job, would love to have a toon in. But time, ugh time  Jotenen. Have had some great roams into lowsec and some great fights with local Lonetrek pirates one of which took place over about 4-5 mins total as both sides rushed to assist the inital fighters. We both had roughly 8 a piece by the end of it and mostly long points on stuff an logi. It all ended in a series of warp outs mostly by us once I got our guys safe . Otherwise about half the guys going out solo into fw space have their first solo kills and we are finally setting up industry and mining and stuff (urrrgh). Would you believe I discussed mining spread sheets for 2 hours last night... I guess it's new experiences all around 
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Belthazor4011
For Your Bacon Only The Marmite Collective
213
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Posted - 2015.09.18 15:02:46 -
[172] - Quote
Ah you on the big island, nice work.
Mining and 2 hours? Sounds like they go together 
New bro's need ISK somehow  |

Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc.
2018
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Posted - 2015.09.18 15:16:28 -
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Belthazor4011 wrote:Ah you on the big island, nice work. Mining and 2 hours? Sounds like they go together  New bro's need ISK somehow  Well the sheet looked to work fine but i stress tested it and once you added more then 5 miners it had a heart attack and started dividing their loot by some crazy figure. tldr corp cut went from 5% to 85%... I mean that works fine for me but the Rabble wern't impressed 
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Belthazor4011
For Your Bacon Only The Marmite Collective
213
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Posted - 2015.09.18 15:24:39 -
[174] - Quote
Aren't there 30 of these sheets already? I am sure you can borrow someone elses... |

Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc.
2018
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Posted - 2015.09.18 15:39:07 -
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Belthazor4011 wrote:Aren't there 30 of these sheets already? I am sure you can borrow someone elses... Did that. Then people tinker and suddenly im making serious bank without ever using or viewing the sheet 
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc.
2035
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Posted - 2015.09.23 07:52:18 -
[176] - Quote
Ok I wont be updating this post in an attempt to make time/content for my blog. thanks all for the support and helping get this community founded the right way. That is to say their a bunch of carebears mostly that are all over any pvp content they can get (seriously there was complaining today that some of our current wt's are hiding in lowsec and we didn't even start the war...)
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
2747
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Posted - 2015.09.23 10:30:24 -
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Only reason Marmite war decced the Arumbians, was because Arumba was an arrogant ****. He lead a large group of newbies in to hell and then went afk to let them wonder around alone to die. I joined the corp too and saw many good willing players helping newbies. That was the moment I decided they were more important to Eve then my issues with Arumba. I have been srp-ing many of their losses, dropped the wars, send in allies requests, helped on their forum and in game channels, etc.
It's not always what you see is what you get 
And since they have now moved to this corp, you have a perfect mix of good leadership, fun newbies and good teachers. Main reason we set blue standings and will never war dec them.
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
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Fybs
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
446
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Posted - 2015.09.23 13:15:30 -
[178] - Quote
Tora Bushido wrote:Only reason Marmite war decced the Arumbians, was because Arumba was an arrogant ****. He lead a large group of newbies in to hell and then went afk to let them wonder around alone to die. I joined the corp too and saw many good willing players helping newbies. That was the moment I decided they were more important to Eve then my issues with Arumba. I have been srp-ing many of their losses, dropped the wars, send in allies requests, helped on their forum and in game channels, etc. It's not always what you see is what you get  And since they have now moved to this corp, you have a perfect mix of good leadership, fun newbies and good teachers. Main reason we set blue standings and will never war dec them.
And to think some players think you only cause death and misery to new players tora....
Don't confuse kindness with weakness.
Beware the hand of Fybs.
Proud CEO of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority
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Tengu Grib
Black Hydra Consortium.
1426
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Posted - 2015.09.23 13:49:52 -
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Fybs wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:Only reason Marmite war decced the Arumbians, was because Arumba was an arrogant ****. He lead a large group of newbies in to hell and then went afk to let them wonder around alone to die. I joined the corp too and saw many good willing players helping newbies. That was the moment I decided they were more important to Eve then my issues with Arumba. I have been srp-ing many of their losses, dropped the wars, send in allies requests, helped on their forum and in game channels, etc. It's not always what you see is what you get  And since they have now moved to this corp, you have a perfect mix of good leadership, fun newbies and good teachers. Main reason we set blue standings and will never war dec them. And to think some players think you only cause death and misery to new players tora....
Well those players would be wrong. Tora is an upstanding murderous psychopath and a true gentleman.
Special thanks to Carlvagio for being a cool bro and financing fun activities.
StonerPhReak> Being an adult sucks.
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