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Vega	Posted - 2003.07.02 00:44:00 - [31] I would like to add to my earlier post about TTI. TTI has rectified the mistake and made full restitution as a gesture of good faith. I now view TTI as one of the few corps that stand behind what they say, and go out of their way to make it so. Vega CEO A.L.I.E.N Technologies
Acix	Posted - 2003.07.02 01:39:00 - [32] *************************** "TTI sound good but I had less trouble getting a job in the government than trying to apply for TTI." You are right - getting into TTI is intentionally difficult. I've played other MMORPGs where it was not as challenging to get into the guild and the result was that one would inevitably get a portion of whiners, kiddies, etc. TTI's recruitment processes eliminates those - in my experience the membership is the most mature group of online people I've ever had the pleasure to associate with. One downside is that it is challenging enough to get in that it stops some people who might otherwise be great corpmates, but that's a price I personally am willing to pay to not have to deal with the complaining and *ing I've experienced in prior guilds. **************************************** You are extremely correct Hiro, one thing tho. You might want to read some of the holier than tho posts in your own forum. Most are good hearted, but a lot have the looking down thier nose attitude about others. The post that stands out in my mind the most is that anyone that makes a lot of spelling errors shouldn't be allowed to be a part of TTI (the person was an english major, so my responce was needed about specialties and why a diverse group of them is better). One of your members was saying that to another member. I found that while I was in the middle of the app process and I really think that it was the reason for my remarks that got me denied(denied, understandable since I pointed out a lot of flaws in the process). I guess your guys really couldn't take the critisism. Anyway, I didn't post out the pirate killing tactics yet for you yet but they will be out soon. Ironing out a few bugs first. (for the TTI guys in stemming from another thread, I didn't forget) I'm still trying to figure out if I should openly post them or not. It would be better to give them to the groups that really could do something with them first. SNIGG is now officially open for business. We are a merc corp looking for contracts. For more info click below http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=68313
Calladen Nimitz	Posted - 2003.07.02 08:07:00 - [33] Our recruitment procedure is very intensive. Many are rejected for a variety of reasons. I don't think we're so much "elite" as "exclusive". We're looking for people with a certain "train of thought" and way of thinking about economy and capitalism. We don't want drones or clones or puppets who will mine on command. We want people who have initiative, motivation and maybe a little type A personality (risk takers). Many of us own our own businesses or have in the past. We've worked very hard in life to achieve what society terms "success" yet we crave more. I personally don't look down my nose at anyone yet I've had people say things like "do you think your better because of the way you talk" in reference to my 'speeches'. No, not at all, but by the same token I shouldn't feel guilty about it either. Perhaps it is their own insecurity that leads them to lash out and complain about the way we do things. Not everyone succeeds at TTI but to be honest most do. We have a good organization of like-minded individuals. This singular "train of thought" is essential to our success and our business plan. We've been very successful to date. Calladen Nimitz TTI Executive
Yoshokun	Posted - 2003.07.07 04:33:00 - [34] Just an FYI for all, we've moved our forums over to http://tti.fragland.net . =) Edited by: Yoshokun on 07/07/2003 04:33:19
Sun Wu	Posted - 2003.07.11 18:24:00 - [35] /me grins at the list of Bships in production by various TTI members, surely they can be used to bump things. Edited by: Sun Wu on 11/07/2003 18:24:29 ________________________________
Yoshokun	Posted - 2003.07.13 12:58:00 - [36] Aye, but Apocs sure are fugly. ;) Edited by: Yoshokun on 13/07/2003 12:57:53
Li ShangYin	Posted - 2003.07.15 08:21:00 - [37] I can not agree more, but the same look goes for all amarr ships, in the end we don't fly them cause of the looks though but because we can put tons of MWDs into them and then BUMP each other around at stations... or so I was told. ___________________________________ A spring day at the edge of the world. On the edge of the world once more the day slants. The oriole cries, as though it were its own tears Which damp even the topmost blossoms on the tree. -- Li Shang-yin, Exile, ninth century A.D.
Prophet Arames	Posted - 2003.07.18 16:20:00 - [38] Always looking for new employees... stop on by if you get a chance. ______________________________________ Knowledge is Power... http://www.taggarttransdimensional.com
Tsel	Posted - 2003.07.18 18:19:00 - [39] Who the hell are u guys? :) I have just taken a peek at ur website, read bits&pieces here and there .. (slow day at work) How did you ever find the time or the inclination to create such an organization??? Dont take me wrong, i m more curious than anything else. I mean, we are playing a game after all :) Granted, this is the first MMORPG that offers of a blend of adventure and economic simulation within an interesting setting. But still... looks like you guys put in a ton of work .. and i m curious as to why? :) Does it really enhance your enjoyment of the game? Again, dont take me wrong .. i like to play online games, but more as a casual gamer than anything else. But you do seem to run this Corporation as a real life business , which implies that some of you do really have concrete experience in that department - especially the Finance side (taking from my own experience here - i m a bond trader for a large Canadian bank) where the level of details implies more than college regurgitation. Usually we see the kind of decidation needed to get something like this organized out of college students... (then again, most of you guys seem to be Europeans, with what? 8-10 weeks holidays/year ? :) .. Anyways .. sorry about the ooc question .. but still, i d really be interested in knowing the answer :) ----------------------------------------------- The best leaders inspire by example. When that's not an option, intimidation works pretty well too.
Derek	Posted - 2003.07.18 20:06:00 - [40] We do it to have fun. I'm Canadian (live in ottawa) and we have many people from here and the US. Much of the work for the website was done when the game was in early beta and there was a lot of downtime back then. Rest assured we have out of game jobs we spread around and if a person simply doesnt want the responsibility they can find another in our corp who does. We are foccused on having fun though as should everyone who plays an online game. Its the reason we have the structure to join whatever sub-company they want and play the game as they like (barring pirating or slaving). Hope that better answers your question _______________________________________________2005.05.02 03:56:57combatYour Mega Pulse Laser II perfectly strikes Sansha's Battletower, wrecking for 1190.5 damage._
Yoshokun	Posted - 2003.07.18 22:26:00 - [41] TTI has had a lot of work go into it, but the majority of the players in TTI play for one thing: to win. Financial success is the primary goal EVE and TTI has the means and the will to win. Our application process screens out the types of people who prefer to be a cog in a machine or a robot of their company. TTI is a company of individuals who, on their own or when together in small groups (such as KME or Akston) succeed to succeed. After all, there are few better feelings than winning.
Calladen Nimitz	Posted - 2003.07.19 02:44:00 - [42] Tsel, Yes we run TTI just like a real corporation. We have a budget, graphs, spreadsheets (some of us like making this stuff) and business plans. I just started a new TTI company myself. Included in the plan is a 15 page business document outlining what we're going to do complete with flowcharts. I know it sounds funny but making up this thing was actually fun for me. Different strokes for different folks I guess. But to answer your question, yes, TTI is like a real company, and better run than many real companies are. But its what we enjoy so why not? Best Wishes, Calladen Nimitz TTI Executive
Dau Imperius	Posted - 2003.07.21 03:33:00 - [43] I tried applying to Tag about a month ago and was 'rejected' so to speak for the sole reason that I had a non-free E-mail address and can't get one anytime soon. (I even explained my unique circumstances to them in that I live in a college drom with ethernet that has no 'seperate' accounts for private e-mails etc.) I have no ill towards this corp but anyone who rejects someone because of thier free hotmail E-mail address only needs a wake up call. It's a game...last I checked my E-mail address has never effected one. I would have been an extremly hardworking asset and part of a family Sadly, I only wish they could change that one policy.
Jael Markinsen	Posted - 2003.07.21 04:29:00 - [44] Although it may be a little much for some, I believe the reason for not accepting a "free mail" acct. is for internal security reasons. This has been mentioned on their forum boards, at the forum website, and when you actually think about it, it makes sense to have some kind of security protocol in place for a corporation of this size. and btw, calladen, 15-page? that's not funny, it's a good way to communicate to your fellow eve players what you are trying to accomplish! Edited by: Jael Markinsen on 21/07/2003 04:33:10
Tsel	Posted - 2003.07.21 12:57:00 - [45] Thanks for your replies. I m obviously impressed with the level of work all of you have put in. And i can subscribe to the amount of enjoyment derived from creating a well-run organization. But i would differ though in my ultimate goal. Winning is unimportant to me. Having fun is though. Success is a byproduct. Playing well, within the confines of the rules of the game, will enhance my play. But focusing on an end-result will usually lessen my enjoyment of the moment, or of the experience as a whole. I wish you all the best though and perhaps we will have a chance to have some business dealings at some stage. PS - if you dont mind, i have registered on your forums and would definitely appreciate if you activate my registration. I d love the opportunity to engage in some discussions with some of your members (general forums obviously). Edited by: Tsel on 21/07/2003 13:19:52 ----------------------------------------------- The best leaders inspire by example. When that's not an option, intimidation works pretty well too.
Prophet Arames	Posted - 2003.07.21 16:43:00 - [46] Dau, you are right that this is a game... and part of that game is dealing with "corporate espionage". An email address such as [email protected] might indicate it is someone that is attempting to enter a corporation under false pretenses. I am sure you are an honest person and player. I am also sure there are many corporations out there that have the same policies in place. I'm sorry we couldn't help you out on this one. ______________________________________ Knowledge is Power... http://www.taggarttransdimensional.com
2003Cobra	Posted - 2003.07.26 17:11:00 - [47] I enjoy reading all the intelligent questions and discussions on this thread=) "When war does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard."
2003Cobra	Posted - 2003.07.26 17:14:00 - [48] fixed my sig=) "When war does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard."
Caius Cassius	Posted - 2003.07.29 00:32:00 - [49] Edited by: Caius Cassius on 29/07/2003 00:35:54 To the good folks at TTI: I've examined your website (a well-crafted one, albeit a bit heavy on the graphics for non-broadband browsing), your corporate philosophy and the plans and structure you have for your corporation. It's all well-done, efficient, and apparently effective. However. Your application seems to be screening for people who are "ideologically pure" Ayn Rand-pattern Libertarians. One of those "more idealogically pure than thou" things... exactly like 60's era British Socialist groups, in which the so-called "discussions" were simply contests to see who could most eloquently rephrase Marx. Different direction, similar flavor. What do you do about people who are socially liberal, fiscally and militarily conservative, yet believe that Ayn Rand is simply a means for the financially sucessful to claim automatic moral superiority based upon job titles beginning with C and ending with O? Putting it bluntly: I did not apply because I believe I would be at odds with the "higher ups" the moment politics entered the picture (which it does, immediately, in the application process). Because I am not 100% "Rand" in my views (a mere 90%), based upon your website and application process, I do not believe I would be welcome. Is there room for non-self-identifying Libertarians in your organization? Is there room for people who say "none of your damned business" when asked about real life political views? What about people who will look you in the eye and say "Rand was not a visionary, but merely attempting to equate economic success with moral superiority"? If someone agrees with you 90%, just how hard will you fight to "convert" the last 10%? Who do you find more of a threat: the heretic, or the unbeliever? I am genuinely interested in your response.
Skillz	Posted - 2003.07.29 02:20:00 - [50] Most libertarians and pro capitalists stay way clear of 'objectivists', mostly because they are stairing themselves blind at the government/state while privately owned central banks is the de facto government/state. Keep on flaming, lamers.
Derek	Posted - 2003.07.29 05:51:00 - [51] I didn't even know who ayn rand was when i applied to TTI. Hope that answers your question. We want like minded people . Our recruiting process finds those people. We dont need ayn rand followers to the letter. _______________________________________________2005.05.02 03:56:57combatYour Mega Pulse Laser II perfectly strikes Sansha's Battletower, wrecking for 1190.5 damage._
Hiro Protagonist	Posted - 2003.07.29 20:51:00 - [52] Edited by: Hiro Protagonist on 29/07/2003 20:52:42 Quote: Is there room for non-self-identifying Libertarians in your organization? Is there room for people who say "none of your damned business" when asked about real life political views? What about people who will look you in the eye and say "Rand was not a visionary, but merely attempting to equate economic success with moral superiority"? If someone agrees with you 90%, just how hard will you fight to "convert" the last 10%? It is a fair question, and one I too was concerned with when I was applying. To test it, I openly criticized Rand and her followers on some topics on their open message boards while I was still under recruitment About five days later I was accepted as a member. Since then I've become pretty successful in the corp, partnering with fellow TTI members and execs on several ventures and having worked up to personal ownership of original BPs for a level 3 cruiser and a battleship. Despite all that, I'm still not an objectivist, and nobody has forced me to adhere to any particular philosophy. TTI is by no means a place of intellectual purity for all. The only traits of TTI members that I've noticed that essentially all of them share are: 1) No crybabies who scream if they don't get their way 2) No mindless drones who want to be told what to do 3) No collectivists who want to force me to do the work they think is important "for the good of the corp" 4) No punks or immature kids Hope that explains things to your satisfaction Caius :)
Caius Cassius	Posted - 2003.07.29 21:41:00 - [53] Thanks - it does indeed answer a lot of questions. Having known a large number of Libertarians, and found certain patterns to be prevalent among them, I was concerned that I would have encountered the same. As mentioned earlier, any idealogy-based group can spawn "purity enforcers" which ruin the underlying message, and I think we've all had enough of those. I may well be joining up with a reroll character. The basic ideas of "take responsibility for your success and your failures both", and "the only form of charity should be tools for success rather than doing it for you" are good. I'll mention this thread in the application. Thanks!
Thaiden	Posted - 2003.07.29 22:18:00 - [54] It is interesting to see how TTI is being perceived by the gaming community. As a former, Beta, employee ... I have my opinions about the organizational structure, philosophy, attitude, mission, and reward system they utilize. They do some things that are commendable. The company was started with a unique (albeit borrowed) mission. That shows vision. They do some things that I do not agree with (hence why I resigned from the company). Because they have a focused vision, they lack sight in other areas. Like any organization, TTI contradicts itself as it attempts to discover its real identity. Does TTI have an Achilles heel? Yes. Either way, I find it entertaining to see how the Eve-gaming world is responding to them. They have left their mark on the gaming world of Eve. ThatÆs something most corporations attempt to accomplish à TTI has already succeeded at making their mark. ~Thaiden
Skillz	Posted - 2003.07.30 14:55:00 - [55] Edited by: Skillz on 30/07/2003 19:10:45 Edited by: Skillz on 30/07/2003 19:09:42 Edited by: Skillz on 30/07/2003 14:57:13 Edited by: Skillz on 30/07/2003 14:56:30 Of course TTI have obvious problems. It's the very nature of a corporation. If you observe a corporation, it in itself is a command economy where decisions are carried out with dictata and there is no such thing as a 'free market' within a corporation. TTI openly admits that it extorts a corp 'tax' and wishes that it's grunts sells them ore/minerals at subsidized prices. A truely 'free market corporation' (or conspiracy, which a corporation really is) would be a closed collection of individuals that barter goods and the pre conditon for access would be that the 'traders' would be trustwordy and honor their agreements. (With the unlimited access to the open market for each one, of course) TTI also says that everyone are to subsidize it's military wing. (What did Ayn Rand say about subsidies ) Not that she's any economist but she has a point in general terms, Von Mises and Friedman elaborates further on that subject. The point is, what does the military wing actually do for any corporation. Not much (assuming it's PvP oriented) due to the nature of the game, the pirates/griefers have all advantages so it's very hard, if not impossible for a corporation to hunt down particular targets. So a common cost/benefit calculation is in order. My analysis of TTI is that it's just like any other corporation but this one comes with some hot air and 'ideological' rantings. Hopefully TTI brings people to read Ayn Rand and or great libertarians/classical liberals/'true conservatives' so the Icelandic communists can get some education in politics. (joking) A must read for all politically interested people: Beware of these small critters Keep on flaming, lamers.
Yoshokun	Posted - 2003.08.02 13:36:00 - [56] I'm not sure exactly why I should cover up the fact that this is a bump. bump
Mandos	Posted - 2003.08.03 15:33:00 - [57] Quote: I'm not sure exactly why I should cover up the fact that this is a bump. bump Probably because bumping is against the forum rules (read them). Please do not bump, or we will have to lock the topic. -- Mandos Polaris Forum Moderator and Bug Hunter EVE Forum rules
Derek	Posted - 2003.08.03 19:25:00 - [58] even the mods are bumping our recruiting thread now ;) _______________________________________________2005.05.02 03:56:57combatYour Mega Pulse Laser II perfectly strikes Sansha's Battletower, wrecking for 1190.5 damage._
Raindrop	Posted - 2003.08.03 20:15:00 - [59] What is a bump? Can i do it? Is it enjoyable? Raindrop Trader of low end stuff and NPC goods. Recycler of junk.
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2003.08.03 21:26:00 - [60] I think the only bump in this thread is the one caused as a result of a blow to the TTI's CEO's head - what else explains his move to Venal? LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

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