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Prophet Arames
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Posted - 2003.06.03 16:42:00 -
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[Out of Character info]
Taggart Transdimensional - where great capitalist and military minds unite. TTI is a great place to make new friends and work in Eve in a "different" way. We are made up of a slightly older gaming crowd, the bulk of us being between 25-35, from all over the world.[/OOC]
[In Character Info]
Taggart offers a unique environment for the discerning EVE player. We take business seriously, and we aim to bring a new level of professionalism and expertise to the galaxy. We are exclusive, but we are not elitist. We are staid, but we know how to have fun.
Taggart is fully vertically integrated. We have divisions that specialize in mining, industrial, trading, financial, and defense. There are people in our corp that mine all day...there are others that buy/sell stocks all day...there are some that choose to lead their own team of high-risk merchant traders...there are others that do a little bit of everything. At Taggart, you choose your own destiny and work within our well-established infrastructure designed to help both individuals and groups.
You can find out more about our divisions at http://www.taggarttransdimensional.com/divisions.html
Our corporate philosophy is one that stresses the importance of the rugged individual. There is very little corporate control, as we tend to attract the brightest minds that do not need much direction. The executive staff largely acts like a "support staff" that is there in times of need or advice. Likewise, the executive staff takes corporate money and "invests" it in individuals and teams that show capitalistic promise.
Additional information about our corporate strategies at http://www.taggarttransdimensional.com/strategy.html
New members who are new to the game of EVE are also welcomed into our Mentorship program. Each new member is assigned a mentor, with whom they will learn all the tricks of the trade. It will also be a valuable resource to find out more about Taggart and to ask all those questions you might be embarrassed to ask.
Learn more about our mentorship program at: http://www.taggarttransdimensional.com/errata-mentors.html
We invite all interested parties to take their time and read all about our corporation on the website and talk to our members in our forums. You'll find them all quite helpful and pleasant...
Once you decide that Taggart looks like the kind of place you might be comfortable, visit the recruiting area at:
http://www.taggarttransdimensional.com/info.html#recruiting
Lastly, feel free to stop by our public IRC chatroom at #taggart on the stratics IRC server.
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Knowledge is Power...
http://www.taggarttransdimensional.com |
Ragnar
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Posted - 2003.06.04 00:17:00 -
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Thank you Prophet Arames.
As of the first couple weeks, Taggart has over 150 men and women working hard in the game to champion the causes of capitalism while bringing civilization to the deep reaches of the galaxy.
Those that have tried other corporations and found their communist nature of forcing employees to pool resources then having management doll out salaries and other items understand the basic lack of a meritocracy, no matter what the leaders claim. You should know there are corporations out there like Taggart, which protect and encourage personal property rights and encourage the individual accumulation of wealth.
We have several companies at Taggart (http://www.taggarttransdimensional.com/employee-companies.html) all helping their members to become quite wealthy by providing the framework for capitalism. There is no need to feel lost inside such a large corp, because the power comes in these small capitalist teams that form on the fly to bring better products and services to both members of Taggart and our many fine customers in the galaxy.
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Ragnar Danneskj÷ld
Taggart Transdimensional, Inc.
http://www.taggarttransdimensional.com |
Emizzon
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Posted - 2003.06.04 03:28:00 -
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Still being very new to this Corp, I must say it has been fun from the begining. Everyone's willing help me and answer my questions. The groups are fun to talk with while mining, hunting or just simply hanging out. You are not told what to do or how to play the game, you work at your own pace, you do what you want to do and you can offer your support when and where you want and ask for it as well. Joining TTI was probably the best thing for me, now I don't sit alone mining all bored which is was a big step up for me from Beta.
Anyway, just some thoughts from a newer member at TTI. Should really give it some thought, TTI is a great group of people from all over.
Edited by: Emizzon on 04/06/2003 03:28:59
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Check out my corp here:Taggart Transdimensional |
Derek
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Posted - 2003.06.04 05:28:00 -
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Taggart is an amazing corp. And i would like to thank everyone in it that helped make it what it has become today.
I would like to welcome any outside corporations that might want to make contact with our corp regarding diplomatic relations to email me at [email protected]
We have info regarding alliances and some other reading material here http://www.taggarttransdimensional.com/errata.html
And Please feel free to stop by our forums to ask questions or say hello http://www.taggarttd.com/forums/
_______________________________________________2005.05.02 03:56:57combatYour Mega Pulse Laser II perfectly strikes Sansha's Battletower, wrecking for 1190.5 damage._ |
Storwin Winters
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Posted - 2003.06.04 08:45:00 -
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Although it isn't good tone to proclaim how cool you think your corp is, i still can't resist to brag...
We have a REALLY nice corp...
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Adara Vance
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Posted - 2003.06.11 07:16:00 -
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Nice??
NICE???
Man, we have the BEST!
Come on people, make an application...
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Andian
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Posted - 2003.06.12 12:55:00 -
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Hey even I got in :)
Edited by: Andian on 12/06/2003 12:55:15
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Buddha
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Posted - 2003.06.15 06:25:00 -
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*bump*
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Hideo Kojiama
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Posted - 2003.06.15 11:30:00 -
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its amazing that you are the biggest corp your massive, and i would never want to face you in a corp fight. mine having 20 memebers i think yours about 150. i would just want to say may my corp and yours do buisness in the future. and do you have any battleships. :)
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Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.06.15 22:55:00 -
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Hideo,
If you view this thread
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=6892
We have the Scorpion battleships in production as we speak. Visit our website for information on TTI and contact our state department. Perhaps a NAP (Non-Agression Pact) and MFC (Most Favored Corporation trade status) are of interest to you. Check them out.
Calladen Nimitz
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2003Cobra
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Posted - 2003.06.19 01:15:00 -
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Come to #taggart on irc.stratics.net and talk to us and ask questions=)
"When war does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard."
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Zuru
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Posted - 2003.06.22 15:06:00 -
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KME - Kiruya Mineral Extraction, a division of Taggart Transdimensional, is seeking active miners and haulers active in the EST and GMT+1/+2 time zones.
KME is a for profit mineral extraction company working closely with Taggart divisions to provide high end minerals for it's industrialist and trading arms.
All applications should be submitted via the standard Taggart channels as noted in this post with your interest shown to join KME as a sub division.
Should you require further information regarding KME, please email
[email protected]
Edited by: Zuru on 22/06/2003 15:07:22
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poon
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Posted - 2003.06.22 21:45:00 -
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Yes their Military is so powerful they have to grovel like fools everytime they pass through Passari
Edited by: poon on 22/06/2003 21:56:50
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SOL0
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Posted - 2003.06.23 04:01:00 -
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TT,
You guys have an impressive website, but I noticed a small flaw. You website incorporates copyrighted material without use of permissions and proper references.
Edited by: SOL0 on 23/06/2003 04:02:23
Edited by: SOL0 on 23/06/2003 04:05:30
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." |
Davius Kell
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Posted - 2003.06.23 13:15:00 -
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Most material on there is copyrighted by a bussiness that Ragnar is CEO of ;)
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Deputy CEO Cutting Edge Inc
Loan providers and nasty men with big pointy stick's |
Davius Kell
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Posted - 2003.06.23 13:58:00 -
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dodgy website made me reply, cant cancle :p
DAMM YOU
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Deputy CEO Cutting Edge Inc
Loan providers and nasty men with big pointy stick's |
The Colonel
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Posted - 2003.06.23 14:06:00 -
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How does someone who mines for KME accumulate personal wealth?
Surely if you were 'employed' simply as a miner then you are setting limits on your potential, not really the actions of rugged individualists.
How do these individuals 'flesh out their dreams', are they paid a salary?
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Vega
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Posted - 2003.06.23 16:50:00 -
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Thus far my experience with Taggart has been the exact opposite of their "deep philosophy". It says on their website that they are mostly chaotic good and do not engage in innocent slaughter or random killings.
One of their "executives", CTAESIS, has engaged in random player killing of noobies in frigates and industrial ships. This is not third party, he point blank destroyed my mark 2 while teaming up with the likes of Cyberdyne Systems and made several other people in the vicinity that were unarmed -flee, or demanded a 500K fee.
Hey, there is nothing wrong with player killing, its a legitimate role in Eve, just change the tune on your website and quit pretending to be the good guys!
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b0ksah
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Posted - 2003.06.23 20:03:00 -
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The Chaplain smiles as he reads the TTi post
"May your profit be great .. well .. Not greater than ours .. but still great .."
"Best wishes from Nomads to TTi"
Compassion is not a sign of weakness .. !!
-= Dumdidum =- |
Ragnar
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Posted - 2003.06.23 20:19:00 -
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TTI is not an evil corporation, as most anyone will tell you and as is painstakingly obvious from our website. If you guys were blown up or podded it is probably because you did something to annoy us. We have operations all over and are always involved in skirmishes to protect our sovereignty. Whenever we mistakenly blow up innocents, we compensate them.
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Ragnar Danneskj÷ld
Taggart Transdimensional, Inc.
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Prophet Arames
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Posted - 2003.06.23 21:00:00 -
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"How does someone who mines for KME accumulate personal wealth?
Surely if you were 'employed' simply as a miner then you are setting limits on your potential, not really the actions of rugged individualists.
How do these individuals 'flesh out their dreams', are they paid a salary? - The Colonel"
To answer your question, Colonel... if I mine, what I mine belongs to me. I can sell it or use it to build things... whatever I desire that will help me succeed as individual and as a TTI employee. Being a member of a company like KME shows that you like working with those individuals on mining expeditions, that you like to spend your skills training time around mining and refining... and that you might have the same long-term goals as other KME employees...
It does not mean the work you do goes to someone else, unless you are well compensated for it. I personally am not a KME employee, so they would have to respond to the particulars. I would suggest going to TTI's website, looking under the Companies link and contacting a KME employee directly if you are interested in their company.
Thanks for your time.
Edited by: Prophet Arames on 23/06/2003 21:01:35
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Knowledge is Power...
http://www.taggarttransdimensional.com |
The Colonel
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Posted - 2003.06.24 09:04:00 -
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Thanks for your reply.
I like Taggart. I'm very familiar with your guiding philosophies and I personally subscribe to them. But I have reservations with regards to an individuals freedom to choose what to do to increase personal wealth.
I singled out KME because further up the thread there is a specific request for miners to apply for employment. This is an obvious profit making activity that naturally anyone would be interested in especially when backed up by an organisation such as yours. But for example how would a member of Mulligan Defence generate an equivelent income?
My single aim is to increase personal wealth as efficiently as possible. Combat is only entered into if it affects or hinders that aim. I undertake many different activities to achieve my aim as efficiently as possible.
I recognise the value *to me* of joining Taggart in that it would most likely accelerate my individual growth and naturally it would be in my overall interest to contribute to the growth of Taggart. However the nagging conerns regard freedom to pursue individual profit generating opportunities persist. Would it be permitted for example for a member of Mulligan Defence to have morally acceptable 'sidelines' that generate profit for the individual? Or would membership to this particular group require the individual to work exclusively towards Defence of Taggart interests?
Edited by: The Colonel on 24/06/2003 09:09:57
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Jack Ryan
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Posted - 2003.06.24 09:31:00 -
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Being in Mulligan Defense, we generate profits through various activities such as escort, clearing belts for miners (we work together with the miners from KME and TTI on a daily basis), securing jumpgates etc...
MD does not always focus on defending TTI simply because there is no need to. We're not going to sit in a station and be "on call" in case of a hostile act. If something happens that requires our assistence... then we will respond, but at times of peace we generate profits by putting our combat ships and skills to good use.
For example, I am defending profit-generating operations conducted by other TTI members... of which I get a certain percentage of their gains. This money will be my own and I can do with it whatever I want (part of the TTI individual freedom). So I'll be able to buy a battleship soon by saving up my individual profits and buying one from one of our manufacturers (who in turn get to use their profits as they see fit).
I hope this answers your question.
Edited by: Jack Ryan on 24/06/2003 09:33:58
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The Colonel
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Posted - 2003.06.24 11:13:00 -
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Sounds pretty good.
Thanks for your time.
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Yoshokun
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Posted - 2003.06.28 14:59:00 -
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If you would like to find out more information on TTI, check out our website at www.taggarttransdimensional.com. For those RPers among you, check out our RP forum, the Caldari Rock Cafe on our forums at http://tti.fragland.net/forums/viewforum.php?f=28. =D
Edited by: Yoshokun on 28/06/2003 15:00:00
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.06.28 23:34:00 -
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TTI sound good but I had less trouble getting a job in the government than trying to apply for TTI - it's convoluted and pretty impersonal.
I gave up after the 2nd stage (the first stage involved writing a personal debrief about how you'd be good for the corp).
I also dislike the rumours I've heard concerning new members basically being nothing more than mining drones.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Berd
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Posted - 2003.06.29 00:50:00 -
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Now that says something about the government, now does it? :P Yeah, the app process may be a bit tedious, but it ain't too bad. Self-analysis is healthy from time to time. :)
As far as that rumor you heard, it isn't true. If you want to make money via some other means besides mining, you are allowed to do so. No one forces you into a career/discpline. It is all up to you.
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Emizzon
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Posted - 2003.07.01 06:16:00 -
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No one is forced into any role or position at TTI. You can choose whatever path you wish to pursue with TTI. Some enjoy mining, so they mine, some enjoy combat so they become defense for miners or they go pirate hunting, others choose to build and manufacture items or ships. Whichever you choose to do, there will always be someone there to answer your questions, help you out, purchse your minerals, buy your items. And most importantly someone to chat with. TTI is a great group hang with.
Edited by: Emizzon on 01/07/2003 06:16:36
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Check out my corp here:Taggart Transdimensional |
Hiro Protagonist
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Posted - 2003.07.01 19:46:00 -
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"TTI sound good but I had less trouble getting a job in the government than trying to apply for TTI."
You are right - getting into TTI is intentionally difficult. I've played other MMORPGs where it was not as challenging to get into the guild and the result was that one would inevitably get a portion of whiners, kiddies, etc. TTI's recruitment processes eliminates those - in my experience the membership is the most mature group of online people I've ever had the pleasure to associate with.
One downside is that it is challenging enough to get in that it stops some people who might otherwise be great corpmates, but that's a price I personally am willing to pay to not have to deal with the complaining and *****ing I've experienced in prior guilds.
Edited by: Hiro Protagonist on 01/07/2003 19:48:35
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Fauder
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Posted - 2003.07.01 21:21:00 -
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Ok, let me put the 'new members are mining drones' rumor to rest.
I have been a new member at TTI for a couple weeks now. I have NEVER been asked to be a mining slave, I have NEVER been exploited in any way shape or form. I work hard, pay my taxes, and enjoy the company. They have been great in helping me out with many apsects of the game. If someone told me to go mine for them out of tribute or responsibility, I would tell them were to go, how to get there, and even throw in a map.
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Vega
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Posted - 2003.07.02 00:44:00 -
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I would like to add to my earlier post about TTI. TTI has rectified the mistake and made full restitution as a gesture of good faith.
I now view TTI as one of the few corps that stand behind what they say, and go out of their way to make it so.
Vega
CEO
A.L.I.E.N Technologies
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Acix
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Posted - 2003.07.02 01:39:00 -
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"TTI sound good but I had less trouble getting a job in the government than trying to apply for TTI."
You are right - getting into TTI is intentionally difficult. I've played other MMORPGs where it was not as challenging to get into the guild and the result was that one would inevitably get a portion of whiners, kiddies, etc. TTI's recruitment processes eliminates those - in my experience the membership is the most mature group of online people I've ever had the pleasure to associate with.
One downside is that it is challenging enough to get in that it stops some people who might otherwise be great corpmates, but that's a price I personally am willing to pay to not have to deal with the complaining and *****ing I've experienced in prior guilds.
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You are extremely correct Hiro, one thing tho. You might want to read some of the holier than tho posts in your own forum. Most are good hearted, but a lot have the looking down thier nose attitude about others. The post that stands out in my mind the most is that anyone that makes a lot of spelling errors shouldn't be allowed to be a part of TTI (the person was an english major, so my responce was needed about specialties and why a diverse group of them is better). One of your members was saying that to another member. I found that while I was in the middle of the app process and I really think that it was the reason for my remarks that got me denied(denied, understandable since I pointed out a lot of flaws in the process).
I guess your guys really couldn't take the critisism.
Anyway, I didn't post out the pirate killing tactics yet for you yet but they will be out soon. Ironing out a few bugs first. (for the TTI guys in stemming from another thread, I didn't forget)
I'm still trying to figure out if I should openly post them or not. It would be better to give them to the groups that really could do something with them first.
SNIGG is now officially open for business. We are a merc corp looking for contracts.
For more info click below
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=68313 |
Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.07.02 08:07:00 -
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Our recruitment procedure is very intensive. Many are rejected for a variety of reasons. I don't think we're so much "elite" as "exclusive". We're looking for people with a certain "train of thought" and way of thinking about economy and capitalism.
We don't want drones or clones or puppets who will mine on command. We want people who have initiative, motivation and maybe a little type A personality (risk takers). Many of us own our own businesses or have in the past. We've worked very hard in life to achieve what society terms "success" yet we crave more.
I personally don't look down my nose at anyone yet I've had people say things like "do you think your better because of the way you talk" in reference to my 'speeches'. No, not at all, but by the same token I shouldn't feel guilty about it either. Perhaps it is their own insecurity that leads them to lash out and complain about the way we do things.
Not everyone succeeds at TTI but to be honest most do. We have a good organization of like-minded individuals. This singular "train of thought" is essential to our success and our business plan. We've been very successful to date.
Calladen Nimitz
TTI Executive
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Yoshokun
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Posted - 2003.07.07 04:33:00 -
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Just an FYI for all, we've moved our forums over to http://tti.fragland.net . =)
Edited by: Yoshokun on 07/07/2003 04:33:19
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Sun Wu
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Posted - 2003.07.11 18:24:00 -
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/me grins at the list of Bships in production by various TTI members, surely they can be used to bump things.
Edited by: Sun Wu on 11/07/2003 18:24:29
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Yoshokun
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Posted - 2003.07.13 12:58:00 -
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Aye, but Apocs sure are fugly. ;)
Edited by: Yoshokun on 13/07/2003 12:57:53
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Li ShangYin
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Posted - 2003.07.15 08:21:00 -
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I can not agree more, but the same look goes for all amarr ships, in the end we don't fly them cause of the looks though but because we can put tons of MWDs into them and then BUMP each other around at stations... or so I was told.
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A spring day at the edge of the world.
On the edge of the world once more the day slants.
The oriole cries, as though it were its own tears
Which damp even the topmost blossoms on the tree.
-- Li Shang-yin, Exile, ninth century A.D. |
Prophet Arames
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Posted - 2003.07.18 16:20:00 -
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Always looking for new employees... stop on by if you get a chance.
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Knowledge is Power...
http://www.taggarttransdimensional.com |
Tsel
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Posted - 2003.07.18 18:19:00 -
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Who the hell are u guys? :)
I have just taken a peek at ur website, read bits&pieces here and there .. (slow day at work)
How did you ever find the time or the inclination to create such an organization???
Dont take me wrong, i m more curious than anything else. I mean, we are playing a game after all :)
Granted, this is the first MMORPG that offers of a blend of adventure and economic simulation within an interesting setting. But still... looks like you guys put in a ton of work .. and i m curious as to why? :) Does it really enhance your enjoyment of the game? Again, dont take me wrong .. i like to play online games, but more as a casual gamer than anything else. But you do seem to run this Corporation as a real life business , which implies that some of you do really have concrete experience in that department - especially the Finance side (taking from my own experience here - i m a bond trader for a large Canadian bank) where the level of details implies more than college regurgitation. Usually we see the kind of decidation needed to get something like this organized out of college students... (then again, most of you guys seem to be Europeans, with what? 8-10 weeks holidays/year ? :) ..
Anyways .. sorry about the ooc question .. but still, i d really be interested in knowing the answer :)
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The best leaders inspire by example.
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Derek
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Posted - 2003.07.18 20:06:00 -
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We do it to have fun.
I'm Canadian (live in ottawa) and we have many people from here and the US.
Much of the work for the website was done when the game was in early beta and there was a lot of downtime back then.
Rest assured we have out of game jobs we spread around and if a person simply doesnt want the responsibility they can find another in our corp who does. We are foccused on having fun though as should everyone who plays an online game.
Its the reason we have the structure to join whatever sub-company they want and play the game as they like (barring pirating or slaving).
Hope that better answers your question
_______________________________________________2005.05.02 03:56:57combatYour Mega Pulse Laser II perfectly strikes Sansha's Battletower, wrecking for 1190.5 damage._ |
Yoshokun
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Posted - 2003.07.18 22:26:00 -
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TTI has had a lot of work go into it, but the majority of the players in TTI play for one thing: to win. Financial success is the primary goal EVE and TTI has the means and the will to win.
Our application process screens out the types of people who prefer to be a cog in a machine or a robot of their company. TTI is a company of individuals who, on their own or when together in small groups (such as KME or Akston) succeed to succeed.
After all, there are few better feelings than winning.
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Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.07.19 02:44:00 -
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Tsel,
Yes we run TTI just like a real corporation. We have a budget, graphs, spreadsheets (some of us like making this stuff) and business plans.
I just started a new TTI company myself. Included in the plan is a 15 page business document outlining what we're going to do complete with flowcharts. I know it sounds funny but making up this thing was actually fun for me.
Different strokes for different folks I guess. But to answer your question, yes, TTI is like a real company, and better run than many real companies are. But its what we enjoy so why not?
Best Wishes,
Calladen Nimitz
TTI Executive
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Dau Imperius
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Posted - 2003.07.21 03:33:00 -
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I tried applying to Tag about a month ago and was 'rejected' so to speak for the sole reason that I had a non-free E-mail address and can't get one anytime soon. (I even explained my unique circumstances to them in that I live in a college drom with ethernet that has no 'seperate' accounts for private e-mails etc.) I have no ill towards this corp but anyone who rejects someone because of thier free hotmail E-mail address only needs a wake up call.
It's a game...last I checked my E-mail address has never effected one. I would have been an extremly hardworking asset and part of a family
Sadly, I only wish they could change that one policy.
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Jael Markinsen
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Posted - 2003.07.21 04:29:00 -
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Although it may be a little much for some, I believe the reason for not accepting a "free mail" acct. is for internal security reasons. This has been mentioned on their forum boards, at the forum website, and when you actually think about it, it makes sense to have some kind of security protocol in place for a corporation of this size. and btw, calladen, 15-page? that's not funny, it's a good way to communicate to your fellow eve players what you are trying to accomplish!
Edited by: Jael Markinsen on 21/07/2003 04:33:10
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Tsel
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Posted - 2003.07.21 12:57:00 -
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Thanks for your replies.
I m obviously impressed with the level of work all of you have put in. And i can subscribe to the amount of enjoyment derived from creating a well-run organization. But i would differ though in my ultimate goal. Winning is unimportant to me. Having fun is though. Success is a byproduct. Playing well, within the confines of the rules of the game, will enhance my play. But focusing on an end-result will usually lessen my enjoyment of the moment, or of the experience as a whole.
I wish you all the best though and perhaps we will have a chance to have some business dealings at some stage.
PS - if you dont mind, i have registered on your forums and would definitely appreciate if you activate my registration. I d love the opportunity to engage in some discussions with some of your members (general forums obviously).
Edited by: Tsel on 21/07/2003 13:19:52
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The best leaders inspire by example.
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Prophet Arames
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Posted - 2003.07.21 16:43:00 -
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Dau, you are right that this is a game... and part of that game is dealing with "corporate espionage". An email address such as [email protected] might indicate it is someone that is attempting to enter a corporation under false pretenses. I am sure you are an honest person and player. I am also sure there are many corporations out there that have the same policies in place. I'm sorry we couldn't help you out on this one.
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Knowledge is Power...
http://www.taggarttransdimensional.com |
2003Cobra
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Posted - 2003.07.26 17:11:00 -
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I enjoy reading all the intelligent questions and discussions on this thread=)
"When war does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard."
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2003Cobra
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Posted - 2003.07.26 17:14:00 -
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fixed my sig=)
"When war does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard."
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Caius Cassius
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Posted - 2003.07.29 00:32:00 -
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Edited by: Caius Cassius on 29/07/2003 00:35:54
To the good folks at TTI:
I've examined your website (a well-crafted one, albeit a bit heavy on the graphics for non-broadband browsing), your corporate philosophy and the plans and structure you have for your corporation. It's all well-done, efficient, and apparently effective.
However.
Your application seems to be screening for people who are "ideologically pure" Ayn Rand-pattern Libertarians. One of those "more idealogically pure than thou" things... exactly like 60's era British Socialist groups, in which the so-called "discussions" were simply contests to see who could most eloquently rephrase Marx. Different direction, similar flavor.
What do you do about people who are socially liberal, fiscally and militarily conservative, yet believe that Ayn Rand is simply a means for the financially sucessful to claim automatic moral superiority based upon job titles beginning with C and ending with O?
Putting it bluntly: I did not apply because I believe I would be at odds with the "higher ups" the moment politics entered the picture (which it does, immediately, in the application process). Because I am not 100% "Rand" in my views (a mere 90%), based upon your website and application process, I do not believe I would be welcome.
Is there room for non-self-identifying Libertarians in your organization? Is there room for people who say "none of your damned business" when asked about real life political views? What about people who will look you in the eye and say "Rand was not a visionary, but merely attempting to equate economic success with moral superiority"? If someone agrees with you 90%, just how hard will you fight to "convert" the last 10%?
Who do you find more of a threat: the heretic, or the unbeliever?
I am genuinely interested in your response.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.07.29 02:20:00 -
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Most libertarians and pro capitalists stay way clear of 'objectivists', mostly because they are stairing themselves blind at the government/state while privately owned central banks is the de facto government/state.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Derek
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Posted - 2003.07.29 05:51:00 -
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I didn't even know who ayn rand was when i applied to TTI.
Hope that answers your question.
We want like minded people . Our recruiting process finds those people. We dont need ayn rand followers to the letter.
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Hiro Protagonist
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Posted - 2003.07.29 20:51:00 -
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Edited by: Hiro Protagonist on 29/07/2003 20:52:42
 Quote:
Is there room for non-self-identifying Libertarians in your organization? Is there room for people who say "none of your damned business" when asked about real life political views? What about people who will look you in the eye and say "Rand was not a visionary, but merely attempting to equate economic success with moral superiority"? If someone agrees with you 90%, just how hard will you fight to "convert" the last 10%?
It is a fair question, and one I too was concerned with when I was applying. To test it, I openly criticized Rand and her followers on some topics on their open message boards while I was still under recruitment
About five days later I was accepted as a member. Since then I've become pretty successful in the corp, partnering with fellow TTI members and execs on several ventures and having worked up to personal ownership of original BPs for a level 3 cruiser and a battleship. Despite all that, I'm still not an objectivist, and nobody has forced me to adhere to any particular philosophy.
TTI is by no means a place of intellectual purity for all. The only traits of TTI members that I've noticed that essentially all of them share are:
1) No crybabies who scream if they don't get their way
2) No mindless drones who want to be told what to do
3) No collectivists who want to force me to do the work they think is important "for the good of the corp"
4) No punks or immature kids
Hope that explains things to your satisfaction Caius :)
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Caius Cassius
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Posted - 2003.07.29 21:41:00 -
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Thanks - it does indeed answer a lot of questions. Having known a large number of Libertarians, and found certain patterns to be prevalent among them, I was concerned that I would have encountered the same. As mentioned earlier, any idealogy-based group can spawn "purity enforcers" which ruin the underlying message, and I think we've all had enough of those.
I may well be joining up with a reroll character. The basic ideas of "take responsibility for your success and your failures both", and "the only form of charity should be tools for success rather than doing it for you" are good.
I'll mention this thread in the application.
Thanks!
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Thaiden
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Posted - 2003.07.29 22:18:00 -
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It is interesting to see how TTI is being perceived by the gaming community.
As a former, Beta, employee ... I have my opinions about the organizational structure, philosophy, attitude, mission, and reward system they utilize.
They do some things that are commendable. The company was started with a unique (albeit borrowed) mission. That shows vision. They do some things that I do not agree with (hence why I resigned from the company). Because they have a focused vision, they lack sight in other areas. Like any organization, TTI contradicts itself as it attempts to discover its real identity. Does TTI have an Achilles heel? Yes.
Either way, I find it entertaining to see how the Eve-gaming world is responding to them. They have left their mark on the gaming world of Eve. Thatئs something most corporations attempt to accomplish à TTI has already succeeded at making their mark.
~Thaiden
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.07.30 14:55:00 -
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Edited by: Skillz on 30/07/2003 19:10:45
Edited by: Skillz on 30/07/2003 19:09:42
Edited by: Skillz on 30/07/2003 14:57:13
Edited by: Skillz on 30/07/2003 14:56:30
Of course TTI have obvious problems. It's the very nature of a corporation. If you observe a corporation, it in itself is a command economy where decisions are carried out with dictata and there is no such thing as a 'free market' within a corporation.
TTI openly admits that it extorts a corp 'tax' and wishes that it's grunts sells them ore/minerals at subsidized prices.
A truely 'free market corporation' (or conspiracy, which a corporation really is) would be a closed collection of individuals that barter goods and the pre conditon for access would be that the 'traders' would be trustwordy and honor their agreements. (With the unlimited access to the open market for each one, of course)
TTI also says that everyone are to subsidize it's military wing. (What did Ayn Rand say about subsidies  ) Not that she's any economist but she has a point in general terms, Von Mises and Friedman elaborates further on that subject. 
The point is, what does the military wing actually do for any corporation. Not much (assuming it's PvP oriented) due to the nature of the game, the pirates/griefers have all advantages so it's very hard, if not impossible for a corporation to hunt down particular targets. So a common cost/benefit calculation is in order.
My analysis of TTI is that it's just like any other corporation but this one comes with some hot air and 'ideological' rantings.
Hopefully TTI brings people to read Ayn Rand and or great libertarians/classical liberals/'true conservatives' so the Icelandic communists can get some education in politics.  (joking)
A must read for all politically interested people: Beware of these small critters
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Yoshokun
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Posted - 2003.08.02 13:36:00 -
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I'm not sure exactly why I should cover up the fact that this is a bump. *bump*
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Mandos
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Posted - 2003.08.03 15:33:00 -
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Quote:
I'm not sure exactly why I should cover up the fact that this is a bump. *bump*
Probably because bumping is against the forum rules (read them). Please do not bump, or we will have to lock the topic.
-- Mandos
Polaris Forum Moderator and Bug Hunter
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Derek
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Posted - 2003.08.03 19:25:00 -
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even the mods are bumping our recruiting thread now ;)
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Raindrop
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Posted - 2003.08.03 20:15:00 -
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What is a bump?
Can i do it?
Is it enjoyable?
Raindrop
Trader of low end stuff and NPC goods. Recycler of junk.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.03 21:26:00 -
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I think the only bump in this thread is the one caused as a result of a blow to the TTI's CEO's head - what else explains his move to Venal?
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Derek
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Posted - 2003.08.04 02:45:00 -
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The over 200k bistot we mined since we got there has a good lot to do with it. That and everyone likes to kill us for whatever reasons anwyays so we might as well be there as opposed to Empire Space where the cops work against us.
Anyways You give me 1 reason why moving to Venal was bad and if you can actually come up with an intelligent reply then I won't think your mother dropped you many times as a baby. And please don't give me any of this "taggart is in bed with pirates" BS , everyone claimed that before anyways. What Taggart does or does not do rarely has anything to do with how the public perceives us. They seem to have preconceived notions already be them good or bad. And if you can't think for yourself then you can read that morkt drak website for some info that may or may not be true and just pretend you are now "in the know"
Either way we receive applications daily.
And in the good spirit of this thread (which it is for btw) Come visit our website and say Hello.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.08.04 03:27:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 04/08/2003 03:30:54
"That and everyone likes to kill us for whatever reasons anwyays so we might as well be there as opposed to Empire Space where the cops work against us."
... Good lord, someone post that "oh the drama!" pic here.
last week it was just the whole three people of Going Limp, now *everyone* likes to kill the poor TTi. Can it survive against such odds?..
btw. Sir, if you indeed intend to remain out of Empire Space, you might want to instruct your battleship pilots 'tis not a shame to ask for directions. Poor thing apparently got lost on its way between Venal systems and winded up in Jita... most fortunate i was just passing in the hurry, otherwise would have without doubt given in to the murderous urge that *everyone* has towards the TTi, and shoot it to pieces with the help of corrupted Empire police....
geez. :s
"What Taggart does or does not do rarely has anything to do with how the public perceives us. They seem to have preconceived notions already be them good or bad."
Sadly, so seems to be the case for some TTi executives, in regards to the said 'public'... perhaps what we're witnessing is simply the result of a 'Garbage In, Garbage Out' system put in motion?..
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.08.04 03:31:00 -
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Edited by: Skillz on 04/08/2003 03:31:31
Of course all corps worth the name moves to where the bistot is.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Derek
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Posted - 2003.08.04 03:40:00 -
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Josephene do you think Going limp corp is the only corp that has declared war on TTI ?
Please i was merely stating a FACT . I rarely whine especially when I could care less what a corp like Going Limp does. They claim they chased us out of empire space. I'd like to meet a single person who actually beleives that. I admit they were annoying but so was that fly that landed on my arm a minute ago.
There is many corps that has it in for TTI there always has been. Anyone remember Endless Corp? Raid corp? countless others that we have survived and will continue to do so.
I would love to avoid all the drama that TTI seems to produce on these boards but we seem to be a magnet.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.08.04 04:01:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 04/08/2003 04:17:49
"Josephene do you think Going limp corp is the only corp that has declared war on TTI ?"
Am ashamed to admit i was utterly wrong; it turns out that aside from Going Limp, another corporation declared war on TTi during the last week. They call themselves Moral Decay and their roster lists the whoopin' number of 7 members.
Strangely enough, no other wars against TTi are listed... ones which would be less than month old, anyway. Admittedly didn't bother to go all way back to the top of the list; hence if there's older wars which have taken so drastic toll on TTi it eventually had to consider relocation, feel free to list them.
"Please i was merely stating a FACT ."
OK, i've answered your question; please be so nice and in turn answer mine. Derek, do you think it's a FACT that 'everyone likes to kill TTi'?..
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Derek
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Posted - 2003.08.04 04:46:00 -
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Sorry you take the word everyone too literally. The second time I scanned for that word I saw it.
I take back the word 'everyone' Josephene.
M3G4 corp also has a war with TTI. I'm also stating all the other wars that have started and ended. You have no recollection of them all because it did not concern you. Why are you in this thread anwyays? This is a recruiting thread.
We have many corps that have good standing with TTI ( I would know as i'm a Diplomat) but i'm not talking about those corps , i'm talking about all the annoying corps such as m0o/sinister/going limp/mega etc who force the corps who actually have mining and trading divisions to places where it is easier to protect them - HENCE why I was replying to the guy who asked why we went to VENAL. Your comment referring to the guy who was "lost" in empire space means very little. We have people all over EVE. Venal is just our main base of ops.
If you have any other questions or comments feel free to seek me out on IRC or Ingame as this IS a recruiting thread and I will try to bring it back to the original topic.
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Anyone interested In TTI please visit our website or join us at #taggart on IRC stratics to chat if you have any questions regarding the corp.
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Sambora
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Posted - 2003.08.04 11:48:00 -
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Everywhere I have seen the name Taggart Transdimensional Inc there seems to be someone close to wining and comlaining about them. From what I have seen the only thing that TTI is guilty of is being bigger and richer than everyone else. I guess it is ingrained into most peoples eledgid minds that being succesful is bad, and I guess if that is what you belive then fair enough but I for one find it hard to understand why others are trying so hard to undermine TTI and not just geting on with the bussines of trying to compeate with them (if thats at all possible).
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.08.04 12:51:00 -
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"Sorry you take the word everyone too literally. The second time I scanned for that word I saw it."
Now, now; 'tis not about getting literal --even if i did stress the word to milk all the paranoid ring there's to it-- more though about blowing things way out of proportion. Hence, if you scan also my original note hopefully you'll spot the reference to the drama, as well as notice i tried my best to match the hyperventilating tone of the adressed commentary. :s
"I take back the word 'everyone' Josephene."
Thank you, Sir. =)
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Hiro Protagonist
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Posted - 2003.08.05 20:53:00 -
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Minor addendum (of course I'm not bumping this thread for its own sake - perish the thought! :P) - TTI's war with CoC, while old, is still active - couple engagements happened just in the last day or two. I won't steal our friend the intrepid Morkt Dracht's thunder and will let him report the specifics :) |
Yoshokun
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Posted - 2003.08.10 04:24:00 -
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TTI has some new roll playing out! This just in, TTI has purchased the Universe: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=24529
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Tholian
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Posted - 2003.08.16 02:26:00 -
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Thought i'd show a little lovin' for our recruitment thread. 
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snaazex
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Posted - 2003.08.18 15:00:00 -
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Good idea. I best do the same. Come see me all who are interested.
//snaazex
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marius calgar
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Posted - 2003.08.18 17:00:00 -
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wow I'm blown away by this discussion TTI and all there lies it's like an episode of dallas with tti as Jr ewing. Lets see what was said TTI are not in bed with pirates mmmmm....space invaders are just boy scouts who help people cross the jumpgates!!!! " Hi this is setec from space invaders would you like me to hold your cargo for ya? " lol
The worst thing about online rpgs are there are no roleplayers involved just little munchies like TTi and there henchmen. If you guys had some guts between you all, you could just admit that tti is part of venal alliance and anyone we don't want up there will be shot. But that takes something you kids don't have and thats BALLS!!!!!
Also if you are venal why are kia corp and Space invaders blocking route to pure blind???. For a group of good planers ect it seems your alliance dosent even know where venal is!
I have been Roleplaying for years and have never seen such self rightous crap from clearly a bunch of geeks in my life. TTI are the power behind Venal so maybe you should clean up your image and stay in venal with all your friends.
It's like the mentality of Dork tower and munchkin rolled into one. This is my space go away we don't want to play with you. I will say one thing I have been a rpg DM for 16 years and good help anyone who started the crap like this in a game I ran.
Now on a last note stop pretending to be a nice big mega corp and then using total ****s and griefers such as kia and Space Invaders behind peoples backs.
If you are so good then why not clear Venal of all the scum...or would that leave your military depleted because they would end up fighting each other?
By the way don't reply to this unless between you you have the guts to answer the above question.
Best regards
Marius Calgar
" does a 1 save? "
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Talur Lokarn
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Posted - 2003.08.18 18:01:00 -
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Marius Calgar, there are plenty other threads going on with those topics, all of which will be adressed there. Apart from finding it poor form coming into a corporations recruitment thread and start flaming them, I think you should probably post in other threads.
Thank you for interrest though and bumping our recruitment thread :)
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Derek
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Posted - 2003.08.18 20:25:00 -
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"The worst thing about online rpgs are there are no roleplayers involved just little munchies like TTi and there henchmen. If you guys had some guts between you all, you could just admit that tti is part of venal alliance and anyone we don't want up there will be shot. But that takes something you kids don't have and thats BALLS!!!!!"
Umm i'm pretty sure we have made it clear that anyone who comes into Venal who isn't on the VIP list is KOS.
And as far as roleplaying goes we are one of the few corps that actually make use of the intergalactic summit and try to roleplay just about everything. Unfortunately 90% of the community doesn't like roleplay they would rather just whine on the general discussion forum or here in our recruitment thread. Give it up please.
We have never made it a secret that we are part of the VA and it is well known that there are pirate corps in VA.... There are pirate corps in Stain and fountain (at least according to this forum), RUS corp hangs around m0o all the time, just about everyone in the game is tied to a pirate corp in one way or another maybe without even knowing it. For gods sake just let it drop or at least "roleplay" it out in the summit like you are supposedly good at. You will notice threads of that nature already there.
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On a seperate note this is a recruiting thread and we have an extensive recruiting process in place as we are always welcoming like minded people.
Visit out webpage via the link under my sig.
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falkyns
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Posted - 2003.08.18 21:07:00 -
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Derek,
It is one thing to claim those who come to Venal are KOS. It is quite another to to extend that claim to Purblind as TTI has clearly done.
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Derek
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Posted - 2003.08.19 01:32:00 -
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Read that post again we payed that guy back. We made a mistake going after people outside of Venal (enemy people that is and we shot an innocent). We have payed that person for his losses. End of story.
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falkyns
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Posted - 2003.08.19 01:58:00 -
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Edited by: falkyns on 19/08/2003 02:13:57
Three points Derek.
First, which person was repaid?
Second, at the time I posted no one had been paid. The facts are straight.
Third, beyond the issue of who is paid or not is why TTI felt compelled to have such a forward defense of their region. This has been answered.
Actually let me add one final point in an edit. It was not my intention to muddy up a recruitment thread for TTI. I apologize for that and will no longer be posting in this thread about this issue TTI attacks in Venal. I will use the other thread in this forum.
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marius calgar
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Posted - 2003.08.19 09:15:00 -
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my apologies for taking over recruitment tread but maybe people should get the truth as regards what your corp are as opposed to what you pretend to be!
At the very least tell the players what they are signing up for and all of it not just the stuff you want them to know.
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Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.08.19 10:34:00 -
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Falkyns,
First, which person was repaid?
I've had contact with the CEO's of both corporations involved (GENCO and ROVING GUNS)and if you'd bother to read that thread this is discussed on you'd see BOTH thanked me for resolving this matter professionally. Actually there are TWO people being repaid not one.
Second, at the time I posted no one had been paid. The facts are straight.
Well unless your the CEO of one of those companies or the "victim" in the case you wouldn't know anyway but to clear the air I've already indicated they will be paid Tuesday when I'm ingame next. I do have a very busy real life and can't jump thru hoops for everyone.
Third, beyond the issue of who is paid or not is why TTI felt compelled to have such a forward defense of their region. This has been answered.
As I've stated in the other thread this is a random event (basically one member of 200+) who was in the wrong place. I've stated MANY TIMES that TTI is to operate in Venal only. This is our policy. Given that one person made a mistake is it really fair to cast this accusation of policy on the entire corporation? I think not.
Actually let me add one final point in an edit. It was not my intention to muddy up a recruitment thread for TTI. I apologize for that and will no longer be posting in this thread about this issue TTI attacks in Venal. I will use the other thread in this forum.
That would be appreciated. We're all adults here trying to enjoy a game amidst the chaos of our hectic real lives. I'm sure people looking to join TTI don't want to read all this stuff here.
Sincerely,
Calladen Nimitz
TTI Executive
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Talur Lokarn
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Posted - 2003.08.19 10:49:00 -
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To be honest Marius, the truth is in the eye of the beholder.
I joined TTI recently even after reading all the incesent whinging, mocking and constant hate-threads about anything that could in anyway maybe, possibly be linked to TTI- or any mistake that was made by TTI. It was ridiculous. It's actually what drove me to investigate TTI further and found that almost all of those posts were gross overexagerations, if not pure fabrications.
After reading their site, watching their members, etc. I came to the conclusion that TTI is actually a group of mature, professional players that likend the groups of players I have been with in past games. Their rigurous recruitment process hightened my interrest (from past running of player-groups I was known to have analy long recruitment processes in place) and I must say I do not regret joining TTI at all.
There are no hand-outs, no free-bees, nothing to spoil the members. Everything anyone owns is worked hard for and fully deserved.
So in closing, you of course have all the right in the world to complain about TTI and bash TTI for whatever truths you believe, or were told about by others who either believe in them or just plain hate TTI- but at least understand the truth that when TTI makes an honest mistake it seeks every path to repair the damage done by that mistake and apologises for it (something many TTI-haters can't bring themselves to do). I just find it sad that people tend to neglect the good things about TTI and focus on rumours, overexagerations, lies and the occasional mistakes. But I suppose that is what it's like for anything in the world.
While, yes, would-be members should know everything possible about a group before they join it- shouldn't said players make up their own descision after investigating the group for themselves, rather than having alleged "warnings" (bordering on bashing and flaming) which quickly become out of date and obsolete in a recruitment thread?
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N'Fran D'Larn
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Posted - 2003.08.19 19:54:00 -
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Edited by: N'Fran D'Larn on 19/08/2003 19:54:30
Hey, I don't want to complain or whine or knock TTI and I definately want to stay with Everlasting Vendetta, cause I love it! What I want is to hire the PR guy that wrote the origional ad! That's some awesome copy! I bet that guy could sell ice cubes to Eskimos.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.08.19 21:36:00 -
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So does TTi N'Fran
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Zakalwe
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Posted - 2003.09.30 13:28:00 -
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Hmmm... remember what is TTI...
Hmmm...
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Koda
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Posted - 2003.09.30 15:55:00 -
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IMO people hate TTI not for who they are, but what they represent - wealth and power.
Just like in rl, it's a fight between have's and have not's.
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.09.30 16:04:00 -
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Utter nonsense - TTi are neither the richest nor the most successful corporation out there. I would like to remind you that they declared war on 5 corps at the start of the current conflict in Venal as well as bringing in some of the most reviled pirates in the galaxy to fight the war for them.
Amongst the corporations at war with TTi are RONA who probably have comparable numbers of active players and are equally mega-corpy (in the non-negative sense of the word). This is just one of many who have problems with TTi.
The idea that everyone who stands against TTi is some sort of rabid pauper out to 'even the scales' just doesn't cut it.
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KIAPieman
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Posted - 2003.09.30 16:28:00 -
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as i have said before, people just think the NVA corps are green with envy..... this gives me a chuckle every time i see it :)
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Yalson
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Posted - 2003.09.30 16:41:00 -
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Folks,
while this recruiting thread is currently not active I think it's been a well-respected courtesy to keep political posts, dicusssions and flames away from the recruitment areas.
I'd appreciate you all honoring that unwritten agreement.
Cheers,
-- Yalson
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TMX
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Posted - 2003.09.30 16:44:00 -
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Edited by: KIAtmx on 30/09/2003 16:50:52
Join TTI if you are wannabee on oure pod on sight list! :)
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