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Takseen
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.08 18:29:00 -
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Quote:a2 - Mission runners that do not take active rolls in any corp, pvp, play market games or Build items.
This *usually* applies to me so I'll answer that.
-manufacturing is dominated by people with skills invested in it. I found a niche market I could make a small profit in for a while, but it got boring.
-market is just not appealing to me, I never played AH games in other mmos either.
-no pvp because it doesn't seem especially viable to do solo, I've mostly kept playing via PLEX which makes it hard to afford pvp, and I prefer my pvp to be casual and relatively consequence free.
-no corp roles because I don't fancy being exposed to wardecs or any semi-mandatory scheduled activities. My interest in Eve comes and goes, sometimes I might not do anything beyond the skill queue for weeks at a time. |
Takseen
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.08 18:44:00 -
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Mirima Thurander wrote:This was a long post about the way WoW keeps its subscribers addicted to the game by a means of constantly triggering the reward system of the brain and a comparison to the horrible reward system EvE uses but,
the forums happened and it was lost for ever.
I wouldn't be surprised if the "skill training completed" dialogue triggers that very same reward centre. It even works the same way as WoW. Frequent meaningful boosts from skill training at the start, but then it takes longer and longer to get smaller and small boosts.
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Takseen
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.08 21:22:00 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:Hecatonis wrote:i dont think you (and the others asking similar questions) understand the answer, i am saying people dont need a goal. you might, i might, but not everyone does. If you don't have a goal, you are just seeking mindless gratification. Like someone who takes drugs, for instance.
Well yes. In fact I suspect the majority of people play games as mindless gratification. They are games, after all. Its the ones who get some deeper meaning out of it that are a rare and slightly strange bunch.
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Takseen
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.08 22:11:00 -
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Alistair Cononach wrote:
The question SHOULD be to CCP as to why, unlike the vast majority of games, the CCP version of a "noobie zone" has the same (if not superior) level of reward/outcome as the deepest reaches of what would be CCP's "raiding area", i.e. nullsec.
No one would suggest that a 2-man "raid" in Durotar in WoW should drop equipment equal to that of the hardest Level 90-whatever end-game raid. Nor should high-sec mIssioning, an almost 100% risk-free activity with only basic player interaction and effort, be rewarded to the degree it is, i.e. more profitable than large swatches of null-sec.
Raiding areas in other mmos are generally safer than the lowbie zones. The former are in instanced bubbles and thus immune to any form of pvp interference, the latter are often populated by high level gankers from the opposite faction, if its a pvp server. Unsurprisingly, people graduate from these lowbie zones as fast as humanly possible, or ignore them altogether. by leveling through instanced dungeons or (consensual and level and numbers balanced) instanced pvp. |
Takseen
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.09 18:18:00 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:Igualmentedos wrote:Carebears know why he's asking. He's upset and butthurt that some people just don't play the way he does. Carebears always think that reality is defined by what they think it is. They think this about EVE and about other people. It's like they are all solipsists or something.
Some carebears in this thread are making assumptions about the OP who asked the question, you're making assumptions about every single carebear in Eve.
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Takseen
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.09 18:44:00 -
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Baden Luskan wrote:Mr Kidd wrote:Ingvar Angst wrote:Take no part in the game?
You mean take no part in the game that you think they should. They're taking part in incursions, as a part of your definition... that's certainly a part of the game they're taking part in.
Your bias... it's leaking on the carpet. Agree with this. This game is many things. People need to stop assuming that their game is the only game to be played. I totally agree, but staying in high sec and never finding out what 0.0 life is like staying in the starting zones your whole life in WoW. At least in my opinion.
Its more like playing wow on a pve server without ever entering a battleground, arena or enemy faction city. Which is not super unusual.
Highsec has a lot of stuff in it. Seeing it as just a starter zone is missing the point entirely.
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Takseen
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.09 23:29:00 -
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Baaldor wrote:
Actually is it is more like....
NullSecDude: Looking for decent pilots, Null Sec fun and games
HiSecGuy: Sure, but this is what I demand, I am not going to x up for fleet, I expect some type of protective service when I rat or mine, if I lose a ship I expect to be reimbursed and if some one can move my **** from High Sec that would be great.
NullSecDude: Dude, WTF! entitled much?
HiSecGuy: yep
Ahh, so this is a recruitment crisis thing? That makes more sense.
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Takseen
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.12 18:20:00 -
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Mirima Thurander wrote:Clearly my tread has been derailed, i do indeed know the main null routes are camp by people that shoot everything, this thread is for the OP and not why or how Nuller do there thing.
Not all the routes to null are camped...
And once you get a clone there its a relatively simple affair to bring in about 300k m3 of stuff from Jita to keep you well supplied.
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