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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.12.06 06:05:00 -
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Originally by: Abyss Jack go into highsec?
Low sec has the mission runner gankers..
Highsec has the mission runner griefers..
Why dose any idiot with a scanner get access to missions that i had to grind 2 weeks worth of standing to get access to?
Its broken.. needs a fix
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.12.06 07:24:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Overlord we did say earlier this week that once carebears got interruptted it woudl unleash a wave of whining and whinging and let me have it easy posts
It looks to me like its the gatecampers turnd Mission griefers that are making the let me have it easy posts.
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.12.06 07:44:00 -
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Originally by: Zwotte Whats the BS you can't do anything about the high sec griefers. You got a ingame tool at your disposal....Wardec them.
Problem solved.
how about if a Griefer wants to get into my Mission deadspace he has to wardec me.. or wardec the NPC corp that gave me the mission..
Sounds fair to me
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.12.06 07:55:00 -
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Originally by: Verus Potestas Locking other players out of missions is wrong in so many ways.
The problem is that scanning is too fast and easy for Empire. Try to "fix" it by locking out missions, and you aren't fixing anything. You're just making another problem.
You are, of corse, right.
I guess the real answer is makeing the griefer have to scan out the gate and then tweeking gates to make them tough to scan for.
That whole warp to mission runner and get placed nicely at the acceleration gate is way to easy.
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.12.06 08:17:00 -
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Originally by: TerrorWOLF Now i only see replays of 13 year old kids with the intelligence of 2 year olds insolating everyone they can.
A game the alows griefing was bound to attract these guys eventualy. My hope is that if they find their easymode style of PvP constantly rebalanced so they have to work for their ganks that they will eventualy move on or come to understand that the game isnt only about "Pew pew your dead".
Its no surprise that most of the players who are trying to defend this poor balance are the same ones that were camping gates in snipeing ships warp-stabbed up the yinyang and cryed far more than any carebear when they heard warp to 0 was comming in.
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.12.06 09:08:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver High end missions shouldn't be in empire anyway.
I'd propose making the change of: No concord intervention when in a deadspace area.
This would finally solve the problem of risk-free mission grinding in high sec.
So you basicly want to gank Mission runners at will in Highsec and not have to worry about them hunting you down afterwards at a gate or station..
Well i think we can guess where you are on the Gankbear--to--real PvPer scale
I guess that you think this change would be payback for the nerf to the lame gateganking tactics you used to use..
seriouly dude get a clue
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.12.06 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver
Originally by: Queen Hades What is wrong with that? People are paying CCP JUST BECAUSE (!) of the fact they can play the game THIS WAY.
If they can't do it, guess what they will do.
What about those who play just to PVP or play in their chosen method? They also have every right to play as they want, surely! I'm afraid this 'omg I'd quit the game if I couldn't make easy isk anymore' argument is getting old.
Not if their choosen method is griefing other players who dont want to be griefd
You have all of 0.0 and Lowsec inwhich you can gank/grief/camp as much as you like.. you want Highsec now to?
The "Its a PvP game" argument to justify gankbear tactics and the lack of risk that they take is getting even older
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.12.06 09:41:00 -
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Edited by: Xaildaine on 06/12/2006 09:42:09
Originally by: Oveur Two things to take into consideration here, you are supposed to be able to scan out people, whether they are doing missions, mining or hiding. On the other hand, it's not supposed to be too easy to find everyone.
TomB is looking into the scanner balancing specifically around this, let's see what his findings are.
Its not the finding of people that is causeing the trouble. Its the use that people are putting the new tools to.
Warp in to massive LvL 4 mission .. agro the entire Deadspace.. warp out. 1 ganked cearbear.. 1 can of T2 loot.. 1 mins work.. 0 risk.
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.12.06 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: Lorn Yeager
Originally by: Radioactive Babe
and fair play involves killing and lotting critical mission loot? of course it does silly me
What is fair play then?
Is it fair that missionrunners should make isk without me having the possibility to stop him?
you can just war dec him and Camp a gate or a station
What gives you the right to take a mission runners bounty isk without any risk to yourself and without doing the same amout of work IE gaining standing
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.12.06 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Chikity China There's a great solution to all this recent behaviour...
Instead of fixing the problem in game, why doesn't CCP put pressure on Blizzard to hurry up with the expansion for WoW?
That'll most likely fix the problem.
CC
Agreed .. the sooner Blizz get all these 13 year old "LEET PvPers" back the better
Damn wana be pierats are gona be the death of EvE
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.12.06 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Queen Hades
OMG, I want cheap kills and people who do not want to be my cheap kills have to leave the game.
Or, god forbid, learn to take some personal responsibility for their own safety.
So how do we take responsibility for the safety of our mission objectives? We cant shoot the "Leet PvPer" or we get concorded.
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.12.06 14:12:00 -
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Edited by: Xaildaine on 06/12/2006 14:12:49
Originally by: Raste I didnt read the whole thread so if this has already been mentioned I apoligize, but anyway...I hope mission runners get griefed and ganked straight out of empire. :)
When the carebears leave empire they usualy go to 0.0 where of corse the likes of you are far to scared to go for fear of actualy getting into fight you might not win.
The other place they go is out of EvE.. and if enough of them do this the market you so dearly love will grind to a halt leaveing you all "Leet PvPers" stuck pew pewing each other in your newb ships..
So in short if you have a clue you will see that your an idiot..
Dont think about that last sentence for to long .. your head will explode
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.12.07 03:02:00 -
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Why should any idiot with a scanner get instant access to Mission content that i had to grind weeks of standing to get access to?
We need CCPs take on this soon. Leaving this to fester is not good for the game
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.12.07 13:54:00 -
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Edited by: Xaildaine on 07/12/2006 13:54:38 Ok so this question has been asked a few times in this thread already and i have yet to hear one good answer to it
Why should any idiot with a scanner get instant access to Mission content that i had to grind weeks of standing to get access to?
We need CCP to make a call on this NOW Leaveing this to Fester is not good for the game
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.12.07 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Harisdrop Dev post
Yeah... ok But
Originally by: kieron *Adjustments to the scan system so that: -griefing mission runners in deadspace complexes is more difficult, and -scan results are easier to interpret,
Regardless of how hard it is to do .. should it be posable for a Lamer to grief a highsec mission runner without ANY risk to himself?
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.12.08 13:07:00 -
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Edited by: Xaildaine on 08/12/2006 13:08:00 With regard to the Mission crashing situation.. I think CCP UNDER-estimated the Lameness of those who could no longer gate snipe/camp stabbed up the yingyang.
If there wernt so many Griefers and Lamers then the mission crashing issue wouldnt be an issue.
basicly i think the Playerbase is nolonger as mature as it once was, and where before, a few players might have engaged in this practice we now have far to many willing to play griefer just because CCP didnt absolutly tie up all the loose ends and make it imposable for them.
In short .. To many ex-WoW teenages
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.12.08 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: kieron *Adjustments to the scan system so that: -griefing mission runners in deadspace complexes is more difficult, and -scan results are easier to interpret,
OK so here we have CCP saying that it IS infact griefing that is taking place..
surly that mean its petitionable as griefing
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